Friday All Stars - Episode #116 of CloudFocus Weekly

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00:03 Jason Atwood: . and, and the and the the You're always speaking of things that have nothing to, R What are we talking about?

Justin Edelstein: You had the product manager I did not only

Jason Atwood: Defending his his product in one, but two I think even three places Maybe even really defending it he was adding to

Justin Edelstein: The conversation So tell me what the blog post and then tell me about the shirt you had after the box and permission sets Themselves as anyone who's been listening to this podcast No, have a favorite feature of ours. They came out about a year ago. I think they were in the winter 12 release. Salesforce? Salesforce, yes. Sorry, I had to mention that even. I didn't think that was necessary. That's it. At this point,

Jason Atwood: We can mention anything in the Salesforce, we don't have to say that. I'm not sure that that was necessary.

Justin Edelstein: Thank you. This is just permission sets. Thank you. You could be talking about like IBM Global. So these Global permission sets were introduced in winter 2013 in the most recent release of Salesforce. Excellent. Okay. Not of Oracle. Not of Oracle. They may have something called permission sets. Okay. Not sure. And Global permission sets. break the existing or what was the existing paradigm of permission sets that permission sets are sets of permissions so descriptive. So descriptive again so that you can cobble, cobble, I will that you can cobble together and assign to individual users that add to what their profilerly allows them to do. So it allows for a lot more ad hoc permissioning of system permissions, object level permissions, visual force page access, things of that nature. And it's additive, so if your profile says you can read accounts, well then you can read accounts, but maybe you are given a permission set that allows you to edit them.

03:18 Justin Edelstein: Not Hence the adding. So in the past, permission sets have been tied to a license type. When you create a permission set, you have to say, you had to literally say which license type can use this permission set. Give me an example of a license type. So a Salesforce license type, or a platform license type, or a chatter. License type or a portal license type those types, okay and it there was a problem where you know, you'd create a permission set for added accounts and You'd have to create two or three of the same exact permission set because you want to give it to You have a mix of license types in your orgs. You got a Salesforce license type yet platform, license types, so you had to create two which were identical except for the license type.

Justin Edelstein: So globals solves that problem. It says no, no license type necessary, right? Just assign it to whoever you want to assign it to. Why I go into the guts and the glory in this blog post and I feel like I'm explaining it even more on this podcast. than we normally go into is because I feel as though there's a a little bit of an issue with the I like to put as many permission sets into my or as many permissions into my permission sets as possible as to not proliferate them and I feel like If now I want to put things that a certain license type can't do such as edit cases or Campaigns because they don't have access to cases Or campaigns because of their license type I still got a create two different So you're saying it's permission.

Justin Edelstein: So you're saying it solves the problem. It doesn't solve it all the way I'll solve it all the way because if I tried to apply or assign a global permission set that included something that your license couldn't do anyway it will reject it it won't allow me to assign it to you therefore I need to create another one anyway for just you so it kinda can go across a couple license types but not all well it can really only go across one completely the sales force license license license license license license license license license license it then needs to be kind of pared down from there, if you're going to include things like campaigns or opportunities or cases if you're going to be giving it out to other certain license types. If you have a large org that has a lot of platform users in it or has chatter plus users in it not necessarily for you.

Justin Edelstein: I mean the thing that globals does bring to the table which I'm glad that That's all I have for you today. I'm Adam Torman, Product Manager for Permissions and Security, friend of the podcast, Adam Torman. He brought to my attention which is a really good point is you So, you know, every license type can have the ability to see Visualforce pages. So this global permission set allows an ISV, such as Arcis, who creates an application like the Permissioner that doesn't leverage any standard Salesforce components. We can have one global permission set called the Permissioner permission set that can be found on any user in any org. Okay. So that's a good thing. Great. So there's some pros and cons. The guts, the glory. It's all there. You can read up. But I feel like I just told you the whole story.

06:55 Justin Edelstein: No, no, no. I'm gonna tell your friends. So much more. Oh yeah. There's so much more.

Jason Atwood: And there's a discussion at the bottom at using disgust. So you can go read that. That is at blog.arcosync.com. Where else? All things are up there. Or on the Facebook page. Or the Facebook page. You Can't read it now, but you can go look at it. Next up, we actually have a AppExchange All-Star. So Salesforce has a blog. They've actually had many blogs. They've broken those blogs out into many different blogs and they brought them all back together. There used to be this own chatter blog, now that's gone, whatever. They have a blog and they published a blog that has someone in it that's pretty familiar. I actually got the Google alert today. the Google Alert saying that Justin Edelstein that says Justin Edelstein has been used. I hope that I'm like, oh there's the blog post.

Jason Atwood: And it's at blog.salesforce.com and it's called AppExchange All Star Justin Edelstein and it's Justin Edelstein, sorry, AppPix, Justin Edelstein's app... Yes, it's you it's me and your picture and my picture you picked It's funny. You basically picked your god focus app picks of the week. I did it. Yeah, I just and just four of them What do you miss them?

Justin Edelstein: I guess that's it you've picked all these I think I've picked all four of these things before so it's it's The byline is Holly Wegman who runs the app exchange marketing program, so she Technically wrote it on the web. I Wrote it and then she made it much better She edited or somebody edited edited it a bit, but no for the most part I wrote it They may have Put a few words in here there Added some links made it more webby Where I just handed them you know content. I just tweeted it and Google plus did thanks So yeah, I'm very proud very honored to be mentioned as an AppExchange all-star You can go to blogs dot salesforce calm and you can find it You could also just google me and you'll find it I'm sure if you just google Justin at Alstein AppExchange you'll certainly find it so since they all were picked they were all-picked so I can give them away seris insights By seris path Inc really great gmail Integration with sales force.

Justin Edelstein: We love that here at Arkus This one that pretty familiar with the permission by Arkus Inc. Ha ha I actually asked her I said can I pick an app that's that's mine and she said do you use it I said I love it I use it all the time I built it I built a baby I love it she's like well then yeah she's like is it useful I'm like it's really useful it's free and it's free so she's like yeah go for it so I used it zap it scan entry by scout which we've used before for some clients and some really interesting barcode scanning data entry technology. And then donation split by Cloud for Good and our friend Tal Frankfort, part of the MVP community. I believe this is his app or I know it's his app, so good stuff there to tack on to the nonprofit starter pack.

10:25 Justin Edelstein: Those are the four pets. They've all been talked about here on the podcast before

Jason Atwood: But now they're now they're written now They're written in ink now They are up there on the app exchange or on the blog and pointing over to the app exchange. That's right linky linky So head on over. Yep If you want to know what's gonna go on in the future Maybe you should buy a company that predicts the future Ooh. As Salesforce did in buying a, right before Thanksgiving, so on their buying spree, they want to get those last, it's funny, they should have bought it a Black Friday, that would have been funny, if they bought a company on Black Friday. But Salesforce buys prior knowledge, which I thought was, when I read the headline originally, I thought, oh, is that like, I thought they... It wasn't them actually buying. It was like talking about how they got knowledge.

Jason Atwood: Yeah, they bought something previous. Yeah, so this is on VentureBeat. They closed on, I guess, they announced it on Wednesday. But yes, they bought prior knowledge. A company who built something called Veritable, or a product called Veritable. which is a predictive database insight data tool. I was trying to figure this out let's just be honest about it. Yeah let's see. This is something that let's lie. This is something that I understand this completely and I understand I can talk about it intelligently for the next half an hour. Now thank you for lying. Now let's be honest.

Justin Edelstein: I was trying to read up on what this is. It looks to me as though this is going to be something that you will never ever ever know of or hear about as something anything other than our database technology is good. Like this is a total back end under the covers thing that's gonna make their database work and that's kind of how I look at it. And you know if they can use some advanced technologies to make the database you know easier to query or more scalable or make search better or whatever it is,

Jason Atwood: I'm all for it. Have fun. It's funny because Salesforce has a lot of, I don't know if this is known, they don't really talk about it a lot anymore. they used to, which was that they have a lot of patents in the database technologies world. And their whole technology stack is built on this thing called Skinny Tables, which is a way of, instead of in a database of creating different tables, think of them like Excel worksheets, in most databases you end up with lots of tables, literally. you know, in a complex database you could end up with 50, 60, 100, 200 tables all interconnected with primary and secondary keys. I hope I ever fell asleep right then. But, wake up! But they've created a way that they can use skinny tables which are very simplified tables.

Jason Atwood: And I think they said they only have like... I think it was only five tables for all the Salesforce stuff. So it's like building instead of having hundreds which you'd normally expect and like a CRM here in Capture CM data It's all caught in these kind of skinny tables again less of them which have a lot of patents around so yeah, this seems to be like a Hey, look we're going into the you know, you know, we're buying something. It was in this using the tech crunch disrupt They saw it. It's a helpful tool helps them Fine, casual, well I'm having a problem today. You okay? Yeah, maybe I'm a little tired of Thanksgiving. Anyway, gobble gobble. Interesting, so another purchase, yeah I don't think this is, if you're a Salesforce user, this is not exciting in any way other than hey look, they're putting money into the core.

14:01 Jason Atwood: Right. Which I don't think in the way we talk about the core being core functionality, I think core like literally.

Justin Edelstein: Code yeah, but it might help down the road and you'll never know like that This was the thing that helped get that those two features out the door, but maybe it does so I'm all for strengthening the core.

Jason Atwood: Yeah, I'm all for Pilates When whenever whenever they asked me when sales was comes to ask me should we spend some money? I'm strengthening the core I say do some burpees and I want Pilates for the core Yeah, if you've ever done burpees they're not fun But anyway they don't look fun fun

Justin Edelstein: Like my go on is now speaking things. Is now your speaking of things.

Jason Atwood: 200th anniversary infographic. Speaking of things, we'll be there. I love our infographic. It's fun. It's up there. So cool. So Black Friday was, we had Thanksgiving last week. We did. And then we had Black Friday, which is the day after Thanksgiving where everybody spends... a boatload of money, well guess what this year they spent over one billion dollars online online which is huge. First time ever over one billion dollars. Yes, up 26% from last year and interesting because there's always Black Friday then there's something they used to talk about Saturday, now there's Cyber Monday. Well Saturday is small business Saturday. Small business Saturday, then there's Cyber Monday.

Justin Edelstein: Cyber Monday but it's really just not even a thing I don't. think anymore. It's like... Like for the three or four weeks prior to Black Friday, we would get bombarded with shipments that we could not fit in the store. It was like, where are we going to put this stuff? And we just build piles of toys. Yeah. Big box stuff. And it'd be like, where are we going to put it? be piled like like almost fire hazard type stuff and the manager just be like wait till Friday and like we used to open at like six and I was like oh it's so early yeah I gotta be there like five and I get there and there'd be people online at five and I'm like what are these people doing and then by like noon the store was gone It's like you could just walk through these big piles of things that used to be there and now they're just aisles.

Justin Edelstein: It was amazing. I used to love Black Friday and retail. But I feel like now it starts on like Wednesday.

Jason Atwood: I also feel like it's... I just... I don't get it anymore. I mean, I got it. I know it's a marketing thing and yes, there are actual deals and I've seen the real deals and stuff. I feel like... The only deal that I know that's out there that happens on Black Friday that's actually worth it for me is Apple. It's the one day a year that Apple actually gives a discount on anything. It's the only day of the entire year. So 360... What kind of discount were they giving this year? They were giving 10% off, 15% off, 20% off stuff.

17:44 Justin Edelstein: So like, you're gonna go pick up, if you're picking up your iPad for that, for that, for that, for that, for this year I bought before Black Friday although I did buy I did buy something on Black Friday online I guess so I contributed to this billion dollars. Me too.

Jason Atwood: I mean it's it's I just think of it as like I buy all my stuff online I don't I don't need to I don't like shopping. I've not gone to a store to buy one

Justin Edelstein: Thing for this holiday season and I've bought so many things yeah I incredible how many things have shown up at my door and over the last couple of weeks mall situation or store situation I will say I did enjoy working at the toy store I worked at a KB toys which is no longer in existence it was just so much fun fun I guess it was a lot of fun because it's like this whole build up to this thing and you'd have like a meeting never a meeting we had a meeting like The night before yeah like alright guys Let's be ready for tomorrow. It's gonna be crazy Right is like yeah, yeah, it was really nuts like the Wednesday We were closed on Thanksgiving so like the Wednesday night everyone would meet and be like alright guys be ready for Friday Whoever's opening be ready cuz it's gonna be crazy, and we're gonna give out big bags people are gonna be dragging them around the store They sat in the other and we're gonna give out tickets for the people who are waiting outside for specific things because we only have this many of them and we know that they're gonna kill although I worked at KB Toys for more than one.

Justin Edelstein: Year but the biggest thing that I remember was the Furby Oh the Furby was a bad one. Oh man people were fighting over Furby's we had to put a two Furby limit and you would get your ticket outside for your Furby's like you didn't have to worry they were all behind the counter like locked up. Oh yeah. I mean I got quite a few of them. Furby Furbies. I had the black market on Furby's that year. Oh,

Jason Atwood: That's horrible. You're outside behind KB selling Furbies.

Justin Edelstein: Me dollars. My cousin's like, I need a Furby. I'm like, I got you. I got you Furby right here.

Jason Atwood: It seems like every year, although I don't feel like that's a thing anymore. Like I know Tickle Me Elmo was one. That was the, the year before. Cabbage Pass, it's been one years and years ago. I think the Wii was probably one in one year. Usually,

Justin Edelstein: Yeah, usually like the video, like a video games that are like big, that you can't keep in stock, like you get them and then they're gone. I know the Wii U came out this year. The Furby you could not. We'd get them, and it was like some alert went out or something, and like every mom in the neighborhood was there. And it was like, Furby, Furby, Furby, Furby, it was like, they're gone. What? You just got, how many did you get? 60, they're gone. Right.. Like the manager is definitely doing favors for people because you'd go in the office and there'd be like four of them sitting there I'm glad this is like far enough and back into the past so I could like give up these little secrets Market but anyway, how we get we have we get so off topic online online kick butt this year Over a billion dollars.

20:58 Justin Edelstein: This is just gonna keep growing. We only brought this up because it's like, you know online cloud growing moving forward type of thing Sales sales the first part of sales force. Yeah, I can do I was bored just like a thing like hey the internet still going strong This just in Justin Edelstein News Corp.

Jason Atwood: Where internet still going strong internet still exists and is still going strong. People use the internet to buy stuff. That was interesting news. When you put it up there, I was like, oh, that is, I had not seen it anywhere else. So it's interesting news. And clearly, you're doing your shopping online. It just seems like an obvious choice.

Justin Edelstein: The big thing that came out was a lot of these subscription services are being used. and purchased for people like online so like people are actually gifting like subscription services and digital things so it's like not even just people skipping the brick and mortar to buy a box of something it's like

Jason Atwood: They're just skipping boxes completely well that's actually interesting so I had a conversation with someone about buying presents for kids They were asking about video games this year and I just happened to keep enough of my ear into video games I kind of know enough about it that I can kind of I could talk intelligently for

Justin Edelstein: About call of duty Call of duty to black ops was it what's the other one? There's one other big one this year Yeah, there's the college union. There's that other one. That's like it's like the Revolutionary War That's great. Three. Yeah that one. Yeah, that one looks awesome. It does look good.

Jason Atwood: I'm like, oh anyway I want to play that and lose in three seconds. We were we were talking about it and he was like, he was talking about like giving gifts and I said well, you know some of the biggest games now, the biggest, the handheld market has really been taken over by the by the iOS. Like people play the biggest handheld market now for games is the iPad, the iPod touch, the iPhone. So, but what he was pointing out was that was a good point. You can't give, first of all the prices of games are so cheap. I mean they're five bucks, three bucks, so it's not like, oh, you got me Flick, Flick Kickball, oh for Christmas, thank you so much. I would love that. But it's not in my sense. I don't care, I love it.

Jason Atwood: There's no $30 packaged games, and so he was talking about buying a console. And he's like, the nice thing is you get a console, a big console, and then it comes with the packaged games. So you got somebody Black Ops 2 or, you know, Assassin's Creed 3. It's the thing. It's getting a thing. But in some ways, it's so ridiculous to get these things because... And I said, listen, downloadable stuff is... You know the days of getting discs are very for games is coming to an end very soon there's still a lot of data on those discs and especially with ps3 and and Xbox 360. I'm not even sure what Wii U reads. I know it reads CDs, but I don't know does it really read CDs or just read like higher density CDs. Anyway,

24:01 Justin Edelstein: These things are like multiple gigabytes or terabytes. No, gigabytes. Are they DVDs?

Jason Atwood: These games? Oh, on the Wii is probably DVD, but on the other ones, Blu-ray and HD. Oh, Blu-ray. They're like hardcore. That's why they're big. That's why you can't really download them. I think they're getting there. I think there was a downloadable version of that in 13, but it's like... It's a big game. The hard part about that is that you would eventually

Justin Edelstein: Run out, like you can't run out of storage space on your PS3 because it's not storing a whole lot of anything. Well, they have like 240. Yeah, but if you had to download the games, then you'd be like, well, you

Jason Atwood: Well this game's old, get rid of it. Well no, I bought it. Yeah, I think that whole model's gotta go away. It's gotta get cheaper and it's gotta be downloadable.

Justin Edelstein: Yeah, like it should almost and,,. It should almost come with a Drobo.

Jason Atwood: It should come with a Drobo. There you go. Speaking of Drobos.

Justin Edelstein: You are the worst. Have I made a Drobo my pick of the week yet? No, I think you have to wait till next week though.

Jason Atwood: I've had a lot of hard work. I Yeah, I saw your pick.

Justin Edelstein: I was like, I saw your pick. I was like, I saw your pick. And I kept it up. And I kept it up. and a-- and it was, they were both really good. So they got me a slow for those who were out I was talking to Lily, where do you get your recipes? Do you have a recipe book or something? She's like, oh, I have this iPhone called iCookingSlowCooker. I downloaded it. Yeah, that's intense. And it's got all these recipes that you can make in a slow cooker. Vegetarian, soups, meats, all sorts of stuff. 99 cents from apps of all nations LLC

27:01 Jason Atwood: I think you're gonna look at the app and I looked at like all their other apps This seems like one of these companies that like just takes things that are out there in the world and like pictures of plants Yeah, I play whatever.

Justin Edelstein: Yeah, it was just it was 99 cents. So what evs and Yeah, so I've got a little recipe book in my pocket and I've had two of their recipes and they were both really good so I know the food is good I haven't yet really used, used it for myself but I've used it in terms of I've eaten the food that has been produced by one of their recipes. So you guarantee that at least two of them at least two of them are going to be good.

Jason Atwood: 49 cents and 50 cents for those two recipes.

Justin Edelstein: I do like this one. But I like that. The fun cooker is going to be just great.

Jason Atwood: I love it. I can't wait to use it. I'll tell you, it's one of those... We've had one for the wife, not the little lady, but the wife asked for one or has been wanting one for a while and I got her one I think last year or the year before. It is certainly a winter thing.

Justin Edelstein: Summer totally a winner thing. Yeah, like it's not also it seems like a time commitment

Jason Atwood: Although I think you could probably just set him forget it You can be such low heat that it cannot do anything bad Yeah, but it's kind of hard to think oh, I'm something's there and I'm not there and whatever and I'll say It's one of those things that yes, we use it probably 10 times a year. That's great for those 10 times a year. But it's not like a toaster of a microwave to use.

Justin Edelstein: It's not like my foreman grill. Yeah, your foreman grill. I cannot live without my foreman grill. We might use that even more. All right, you can make that your pick of the week next week. I'm not picking a foreman grill. I didn't pick the fun cooker. I picked... an app,, that and that a the nations I And there we go.

Jason Atwood: Moving on.

Justin Edelstein: Speaking of faculty. You're so stupid. That just happened. My pick of the week is... This podcast just went way downhill. It just jumped the shark.

Jason Atwood: My pick of the week is an actual upgrade to a previous pick of the week. I made this so In our industry, being consultants, we have to use lots of software the cloud is still got to use still have to use software. I think it was a year or two ago we met up with some some software that we could not use on the Mac or Mac shop. So we went to go figure it out you went and used boot camp. I went and used parallels which is very much like boot camp, so it sits inside. There's a couple of these. There's there's parallels, there's another one I didn't use. Anyway, I went with parallels. I've never looked back. We basically have, I think everybody has parallels now and runs parallels. Anyway, they have parallels 8.

30:12 Jason Atwood: And actually there's a Cyber Monday deal that you could, I think it's on a Monday and Tuesday, so it might still be on today. That was you could upgrade.

Justin Edelstein: 8 from parallel 7 for like 40 bucks, but I did the upgrade yes, just because you shot it to me and said did it Well, yeah, you're like here up. Well whenever there's like a software upgrade from like a you know, seven to eight Yeah, I like seven to seven dot one, which is usually free This was like, you know a whole revolution It's like alright, if there's a deal on it, I'm gonna eventually want to get to that next version anyway, I may as well take the deal. So I took the deal on your advice, now I booted it up, it worked. So that's all I actually cared about was, can I opened parallels and will windows work and it did now I'm asking you why I bought it and then as I saw that I was like Oh, let me go figure out why I did this.

Justin Edelstein: So tell me why I did this. So why are you picking this?

Jason Atwood: And why did I do it? I'm picking it because I think Parallels is a great piece of software. Parallels is a great piece of software. And I think they should. I agree. This is a new version, so I get to repick it. So if you haven't used Parallels, you should try it. They have a trial. You can run. What's nice. It's about Parallels, again, it's a virtualization software. You can run not one, not two, but you run multiple versions of different software. So you could have like, even you have Chrome running., you could have. Windows 7, Windows 8, XP all running and have different versions and boot them up. You can create snapshots. So like if you want to have, if you want to do something to your XP version, do something crazy to it, you actually take a snapshot of it and then go back to that snapshot.

Jason Atwood: That's three parallels,

Justin Edelstein: Three instances. One is an XP instance, two of them are Windows 7 instances.

Jason Atwood: So what's, and you could even, oh, so big one is, Parallels 8 supports Windows 8. Oh. So that's one, that's sort of the big one. The next thing is, it supports Retina display max. That's good. That's good. It's faster, so it's faster both in boot up and shut down and graphics.

Justin Edelstein: I found that on this new MacBook Pro,

Jason Atwood: It was lightning quick. Yeah, it's.... Very good, and the one feature I actually think is cool. It's not sort of a big feature I've spent $40 for if you notice now on your Safari There's a little icon at the end that hat. It's a little icon of a IE and you click on that. I don't have that. Well, then it didn't you didn't sell the whole thing On my didn't install the whole thing you click on it and it will boot it sends whatever thing you're looking at in Safari on your Mac, it sends sends it over to IE in Paralels. Oh, that's cool. Maybe it's just enable that. Maybe I have to enable that. So that's Paralels again. There's actually a thing where you can control Paralels from an iPad or something.

Jason Atwood: I haven't tried any of that, but I think if you don't use Paralels, it's a very good thing. If you have seven I like to just upgrade eventually because I'm like I don't want to get stuck on the version that doesn't run something So I figured it was a good time. It was on a Cyber Monday deal So I think it's like 45 bucks or so so go one way go the other and be happy with that Parallels, I think it's from the company called parallels.

33:25 Justin Edelstein: Yeah I'm not sure yeah Parallels is the thing. Parallels desktop. Parallels desktop. But it's a great piece of software. It's actually from Parallels IP Holdings.

Jason Atwood: You know I'll see. Alright so remember to go to blog.arkasync.com.com and find all the blog posts and all the podcasts slash arca sync and we're there as well go to LinkedIn Google I. Think we're in again next year. And do that as well. And we'll be back next week doing, doing a little earlier one this week. Oh, subscribe in iTunes, of course. Leave reviews there. We really appreciate it. Thanks for the two. You're doing a lot of orders. Two reviews last week. But subscribe in iTunes, because this week we're doing this early on a Tuesday, usually on a Thursday. So. So. If you're not subscribed, you won't see it, so do that. And until next week, we'll be back with another episode of CloudFocus Weekly. This is Justin and Jason saying, enjoy those cloudy days.

Justin Edelstein: Thanks for watching!