Cast Mocker - Episode #146 of CloudFocus Weekly Podcast

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00:10 Jason Atwood: This is the 146th episode of CloudFocus Rookie for the first week of August 2013 2013. This episode is titled titled, Cast Marker. CloudFocus Weekly is sponsored by Arkus, Cloud Community Experts. I am your host, Jason Atwood, and joining me for the 146th time on the podcast is Justin Edelstein.

Justin Edelstein: What an intro. Yeah, whatever. Thanks. It's a Friday. It is Friday. It's Friday afternoon.

Jason Atwood: As a matter of fact, I wonder if you could track our podcast and what... what we sound like and what we say based on the days of the week. Yeah, I feel like we're happier at this

Justin Edelstein: Time of the day than any other day. Friday afternoon. Tired. Yeah, I'm tired admittedly. I could take it. You probably could. I wish we were podcasting on hammocks.

Jason Atwood: Or little clouds. Little cloud hammocks. Well we do have two bean bags.

Justin Edelstein: We could grab the bean bags from the other end. We have podcasted from B Bag Chairs and Dreamforce and past those cloud things that they would throw all over the place. We've done that before. Speaking of Dreamforce, if I wanted to register today and get a discount, could I do that? You could. You could go to dreamforce.com. You can register. And as you go through the registration process at the middle end where you get to pay, it asks you if you have a promo code. And we are here to provide you with that promo code D13MVPREF. So D13MVPREF will save you $100 off of your Dreamforce registration. What's that price up to these days?

Jason Atwood: I don't know. I think it's either seven.

Justin Edelstein: I thought you were kind of going to Dreamforce.com. No, I was doing that little. All right. I will go to Dreamforce.com as I talk over my browser loading to Dreamforce.com and I will see what the price is. I imagine that it's still not at its most expensive. And I was talking to somebody yesterday, a client of ours, about why they should go. So register now, it still says save $400, which, which expires September at $999. So if you use our promo code you can get it down to $999.

Jason Atwood: So getting up there. This thing started at $4.99.

Justin Edelstein: That's where you gotta register early. I mean, if you know you're gonna go, you better register early. So use our promo code and get $100 off. It'll get it under $1,000, which looks better than, you know, $9.99 looks a lot better than $1,000. That's true.

Jason Atwood: All right. Well, we have, other than that, we have an agenda. We have our blog post of the week talking about... managing sales with chatter and tasks. We have some news from the Google, a new product which has been picked and purchased by one of us. We have the Cloud Cannon, which I don't know much about, but you're going to let me know and then we'll talk about it. And then we have some Benioff news, Benioff and Microsoft sitting in a tree, P-I-S-S-I-N-G all over each other. I don't know.

03:29 Justin Edelstein: Just a Benioff thing. It's probably a Benioff thing.

Jason Atwood: And then we'll do our CloudFocus App Pick of the Week, which I just remembered what mine was. I have another one, but I've somehow let it go. And I actually have two updates. You're picking that? Yes, the one that goes on the thing. Oh, I don't want you to pick that. Why?

Justin Edelstein: Because I don't want you to give that away. That that works the way it works. Yeah, sorry. Don't do it. Why? Cuz then you're cutting into Alright, whatever.

Jason Atwood: We'll turn into what? Alright, let's go Stay tuned for that conversation podcast teaser Oh All right.

Justin Edelstein: Let's talk about let's talk about the blog post the blog post of Actually going back way back a little back a little ways back two weeks ago because we Put out the paperless one to talk about during our paperless podcast. Wow, I love you. You just messed up. You just messed up. You trip up all the time and I correct you. Blog post podcast. So now we're gonna go back two weeks ago where we published a blog post by the partner who shall remain nameless about how to manage sales using both chatter and tasks. And this is meant to be a kind of like a here's how you might want to go about mixing these two worlds. You know, you've got tasks that are good for certain things, like reminding you to do follow ups, putting in a very structured way, the fact that you've done something like logging a call or sent an email.

Justin Edelstein: And then also reminding again, reminding you if popups and Things of that nature to follow up and at a certain date and time. Whereas chatter is more collaborative in nature and can, as he put it, sort of sur... I don't want to say supplant but in a way replace like a weekly sales meeting or call. Because everyone can be on the same page using the narrative of chatter and... It gives you more of an idea of the flow and how things are going as opposed to tasks which your just things that you need to do to push the thing along.

Jason Atwood: So, you know, collaborate around, tasks and much easier, you know, collaborate around chatter and chatter has all sorts of abilities actually showing a client of a day using chatter for sales,.. and I was showing ACTIONS. So I said I built all, you know, all closing in the next 60 days. So open, but you know, closing, closed date next 60 days. And then I said, click here and show the chatter view. And so this will give you a quick, you know, view of what's going on on those as well as actually showing forecasting. Which I've actually enabled and showed for We'll see you next time. three clients in the last week. It's been my week of forecasting and really interesting. Like when I showed, I mean, there's a lot of like, Ooh, wow. A lot of confusion, but then a lot of like, Ooh, that's a busy screen.

06:30 Jason Atwood: It is. And it's really powerful. Like I'm the more I use it and we use it internally, obviously, clearly, to manage our sales, but then the more. I help other clients use it and use the new version, the collaborative, whenever they're client collaborative forecasting, the more I realize how powerful it is and, especially seeing it in the, seeing with different, in the hierarchy. So you can see your people underneath and drilling in really, really cool stuff. So I'm... I love it when it's something that has been around that I use, but then I start to show it to people and I learn more about it as I show it to them in their use case and forecasting and streaming one of those. So it's chatter.

Justin Edelstein: I have lots of those chatter list views saved as searches. So when I go to my chatter tab, I can just hit that list, hit the next list, hit the next list, because we're constantly doing updates on all sorts of. records and objects inside of Salesforce. So I have a lot of those saved ones to prevent me from having overflow in my chatter tab.

Jason Atwood: Still, still have the thing. And I wish, you know, we're going to little deep dive or, you know, rat hole on the chatter still has a feeling of. needing the the ability to dig in on a time period, right? Because everything I do is basically time period based, and so I would like to be able to say give me all the chatter on these objects in this last period of time. Not of the object time, but of the chatter time, because I'd like to be able to kind of catch up. or not catch up or be able to sort of that sort of unread red state. I don't know where, if I've seen this stuff or not, if there's a lot of chatter, you can get kind of lost in it. lost in chatter, Austin, the chatter.

Jason Atwood: So yeah, so go to blog.arcasinc.com and read up on, managing sales with chatter and tasks. Again, the man who shall not be named, I guess we know he's a man now. Got big into tasks. Oh, yeah, I went big into tasks recently And so this is a sort of coming of age film But a man Finding tasks so I go to there and read up on it Next up which I think this is news that was broken me by another person the office comes into my office and says Did you hear about the new chromecast? I'm like, no I then he said Google it and I'm like, all right, I will Google it. Google it. So then the next day I went in and I was reading Zite and of course every other article was talking about it.

Jason Atwood: I was like, okay, it came out yesterday. It's like the guy told me like two hours after it came out and I'm supposed to know what it is. but so Google released a, if you have not been reading up on it, Google. Coming off sort of the failures of two of their TV products. They had Google TV. Yeah, which is as far as I know It's pretty much a failure. I don't know anybody uses it I don't know anybody bought it they don't care about it that other thing that little like Nexus the next box or cube or Nexus fear or something like a ball. Yeah, it looked like our snowball microphone But they didn't they'd never launched it. They would now 300 bucks And it didn't do anything. So they learned their lesson.

09:42 Jason Atwood: They killed off, they know they killed off the sphere. And then they came back and they released, basically, out of nowhere without anybody really kind of having any foreshadowing of something coming. They released Chromecast, which is a small, I'm going to call it a dongle. That's what I was going to say. I want to call it a dongle. It is. It's a small HDMI dongle. You stick it into one of your many HDMI ports. of your TV and then you can using power it with the USB you can or HDMI if you have an HDMI I think 1.4 and above it will power self power which is nice so then you then can stream things to it so unlike Apple TV which has its own interface and you can go find things this thing is sort of built into the app you're using like Chrome or Netflix when you're watching Netflix on your iPad or Nexus or whatever.

Jason Atwood: You'll see a little button that says send to Chromecast. And then it basically sends the stream to Chromecast, kind of like AirPlay. But the difference is Chromecast then takes over. So then you can shut down or move off of or move away, and you're not actually pushing your screen. It's taking over the stream there. So then you can go off and do whatever you want on your iPad. It's still streaming there. So it's kind of like a combination of AirPlay and Apple TV. But the kicker is it's $35.

Justin Edelstein: $35 bucks. That's it. Out of the box, it's got a small little group of things that actually work with it for now. Netflix, mobile apps, YouTube, mobile apps, and the websites of both. And then a lot, as you would expect, like Google Play movies and TV and Google Play music. check. but it also works with Chrome, so you can push Chrome, whatever you're looking at in Chrome, but in beta up to the Chromecast, and supposedly that is a little herky at the moment, but it's in beta, and they're also working on, supposedly, both HBO Go and... He has a hoopla. A hoopla. Those would be two big ones. Which would be big ones to get up there. So for $35, I mean, just the ability to push stuff from your device to the TV and it just, you know, it's like this tiny little thing

Jason Atwood: That just sticks in the back of the TV. It's pretty decent. Yeah, so someone who has actually traveled with their Apple TV because I wanted that credibility. and AirPlay works with anything that's on iOS. So anything you can AirPlay directly to Apple TV. If you have the newest Apple TV. You have the newest Apple TV. Well, yes, but if you have the newest Chromecast, then whatever. But it's not application specific. Well, I have an Apple TV. I can't do that. I can't mirror to my Apple TV. I understand, but that's the device. That's not the... OS the chromecast is based on applications So like right now if I wanted to show put my garage band on Airplay it to Apple TV behind me I could right because it's built in and everything that's on the iOS that being said it also It's its own device.

13:01 Jason Atwood: It's it's bigger needs its own power Chords, whatever and it's $99 and it's only iOS or Mac ecosystem. So iTunes Well, but Well, but no, because you can't.

Justin Edelstein: Yes, you can't. From what I understand if and I don't know, I'm not a PC user, but I've read a little bit about it. You've met one. You, you can, if you're watching a movie and iTunes on your PC, you can, you can push that up.

Jason Atwood: Okay, you could push it from, from iTunes. So again, still in the Apple world. This breaks that so you're an Android user or whatever. But But it puts it back away from the OS to the apps. So then if, let's say, your favorite podcast maker wanted to. You want to push that onto the Chromecast, you couldn't do it unless the podcast maker built that into their app, built this protocol, the handshake, whatever. So cool. I mean, again, if it was $99 ago, no, too limited, but $35. I'm like, yeah, I might take that with me.. R It is so but 35 bucks. It's a really great R. They took the lessons learned of Google TV Nexus and all that Are they're even making any money on these things if they're they did no they said they said they are making money It's it's literally a little it's it's the OS from Chrome.

Justin Edelstein: Which is interesting not and R wait for you to see if I like it, see device for me. you everywhere else, just bring with me and then I gotta carry an HDMI cord, stuff like that I can plug into a TV and a hotel room and then instead of watching stuff on my iPad, I'm not going to say that, but I'm not going to say that, but I'm not going to Don't play with yours and see how it goes. Excellent.

16:40 Jason Atwood: Excellent. Speaking of playing with mine. I don't think so. No Tell me about this cloud can anything that you added to our agenda?

Justin Edelstein: Don't know what it is reading TechCrunch just before We went on the podcast just to see if there was anything out there that I had missed throughout the week And I saw this interesting article about a product called cloud cannon And the headline says, Cloud Canon Turns Any Static Website Into An Editable Dropbox-Based CMS. So we talked a few weeks back, three weeks ago maybe, about Dropbox enabling more APIs and allowing developers to do more with Dropbox as kind of a cloud-sinking... application service and the folks at Cloud Canon have designed a CMS basically that allows you to take a static HTML website, drop it into a Dropbox folder, enable it as a Cloud Canon website from there. permission it, give out permission to log into it. They can then add like one tag to each div within your HTML and allow called editable.

Justin Edelstein: And then Cloud Cannon understands that admin user logs into the website. They can just edit. those sections those divs so like if you you know a header or Paragraph of content so it just takes this static HTML and turns it into a CMS leveraging the power of Dropbox to host it and do all of the syncing back and forth, you know of the you know, because the files are being saved on the Dropbox and then they're served up immediately on the web. They described it kind of like think of like how Foursquare works or not Foursquare? Squarespace.

Jason Atwood: Okay. So not the social network checking thing, but the Squarespace. Okay.

Justin Edelstein: The website CMS poster thing and doing all this just. Dropbox. They have some pricing out, basic five dollars a month for one website. Feel like that's you know pretty cheap. And you can do custom domains. Yeah the demo that they showed they were using like the the cloud canon domain. Didn't dig in like a hundred percent because literally this article was just written. But I did watch the video it looked pretty impressive from the three-minute demo video. And interesting enough to bring up because it's somebody using that Dropbox API, right? Write an application and allow, you know, allow a web designer to design a website, drop it on someone's Dropbox, and then boom, you have your like CMS. Yeah, like you don't need, you know, you can just have someone just drag the files into the Dropbox and done.

19:46 Jason Atwood: Make the sections that they want editable editable and there there it is. And then how are they adding new content new pages?

Justin Edelstein: I don't know I didn't I haven't used it I'm just mentioning it as an interesting as an interesting use of I mean and I believe you would add it as you would do any static. webpage, right? The CMS portion is more like you can edit content within blocks.

Jason Atwood: Meaning going in, double clicking on something and editing it, hitting save. Yeah, and then it saves it back to Dropbox.

Justin Edelstein: And then it's served up immediately on the web. I see. Okay, all right. I mean... I'm sure it's not the greatest like you know, it's not like a you know, it's not gonna go replace Drupal. It's not gonna go replace Plone it's not gonna go replace Squarespace. It's not gonna Replace WordPress, but it's a very interesting use of something that we just talked about a few weeks back Yeah in that Dropbox cloud API to really run an app Dropbox yeah, I dad I'm fascinated.

Jason Atwood: I mean, this is a interesting take on it. I think there's so much more to come on it On what you can do with the Dropbox API as an old-school Web guy it just brings up a tons of questions But I'm sure it's been well thought out and actually I liked it when we get off the bucket I will watch the video. It's pretty interesting. I will watch the video Speaking of videos that I'd like to surface. See what I did there. Next article is salesforce.com CEO Mark Benioff Mox. Microsoft Surface. So a couple weeks ago, Microsoft did their announcement of their earnings and announced that they took a massive hit on their surfaces. Their Surfi surfaces. Surfaces. This entire......didn't.

Justin Edelstein: Pearl. There's a there's like a apostrophe somewhere in there. There's something there's a can I google it?

Jason Atwood: And so I guess this article which I I'd read somewhere, but I hadn't read the full article That mark Benioff takes a little stab at them Which is sort of like his way of just getting in the news. I feel like he just he has it on his calendar He's in pride. He has a repeating task. He has a repeating task. It says yeah poke Microsoft. Let's see poke. Poke.s Sap today. Poke. Sap So what was the actual quote?

Justin Edelstein: The reason why they're not accelerating growth is for one simple reason, Benioff told the New York Times in an article breaking down Microsoft's quest to keep my windows relevant in the tablet era. There's a better technology. Interesting. Yeah, yeah, they're certainly they're certainly struggling. Salesforce isn't really supporting... like native mobile SDKs for Windows phones and tablets. No Salesforce Classic for Windows? No Salesforce Classic for Windows. They basically said what we're doing for cross-platform devices is supporting regular native web with HTML5. So if you want to develop something on the Windows tablet or Windows Surface or Windows Mobile. There's HTML5. Oof.

23:00 Jason Atwood: That's, that's... As we all know, like HTML.5 stuff can be very, very good, but... It's not the native stuff. Like, it's not native. Native is good. Native is cool. Well, I, I, I... It's funny because the new chatter app came out and I, and I've been using touch, like testing touch. I do not like touch for the record. Well, it is... It just...

Justin Edelstein: Feels pokey. Yeah, that's pokey. It's like, and I I'm just a silly sales guy.

Jason Atwood: That's all I know. Silly? Is that what we're saying? A silly sales guy? That's the way. Silly sales guy. Yeah, I don't know. I feel like he likes to make these headlines, but eventually I feel like, Benioff, you are I feel like you are these companies and if anybody wanted to, they could easily go and say something relatively same about you.

Justin Edelstein: And people should. Why shouldn't they? That's just his... personality and his attitude.

Jason Atwood: It's the way he does it. We, we made a comment and, or, and this won't be this podcast, but I might throw it out there. We talked about being sort of the Salesforce insiders that we are at this point, I feel like we are kind of Salesforce insiders, doing sort of like a, what do we call it? Like not an eat your own dog food or a drink your own champagne or a state of the state or a Because I think we've come up with lots of examples where Salesforce will say one thing as a marketing message and then we'll kind of not do the same, do that thing in its real life practices. and we were trying to think about how we would build that into a good podcast episode that maybe, you know, we would talk about and as a.

Jason Atwood: Helpful thing or I don't know venting or I don't know what it is. Send us some feedback if you want to hear that. The thing is we recorded it we just haven't put it out there. Tweet us. Tweet at us. All right well let's get to the most important thing ever which is us picking our picks. I have a pick and I have two pick updates by the way. So I want to update updates. I think it's important I mean unlike you who just pick something

Justin Edelstein: And then like you never use it's not true I wanted something this week that I used just yesterday.

Jason Atwood: I want to pick something that That I use a lot and then if I actually keep using it, I want to then Tell people about it in advance. I have two things that I picked before the back and talk about

Justin Edelstein: So you know go ahead you make your pick. I'm gonna use I use use this too. Yep. Yeah, it's great So I'm picking roku for the iOS and just it's called roku but really it's roku remote Like it's not like you can watch your roku on this app. It's more for Navigating around the roku and anyone who has a roku which we've talked at length about. Tell me what a Roku is. Oh, it's kinda like an Apple TV but it's not. It's a Roku. It's a box that you connect. We just talked about Chromecast. You know, it's a box you connect to your television and it allows you to sign into and use applications to watch. streaming video and and audio so it's got Hulu Plus, HBO Go, Netflix, Amazon, a bunch of streaming music stuff like Pandora amongst others that I don't use so I know I made one

26:41 Jason Atwood: Of you I think I made the real quick pic Almost a year ago, but so you I bought one you bought one you still use it as a gift actually Yeah,

Justin Edelstein: I got it because it had HBO go on it right which now Apple TV has it so I have HBO go and both devices in my living room, but it also has the Amazon Video or Yeah, for example Jerry Seinfeld has a new original show. It's on crackle. You're kidding I'm not that's funny odd like comedians in cars drinking coffee

Jason Atwood: 18 minutes since I know you're a new Amazon prime member I am I just signed up and so I know you've been watching Amazon prime video Yeah on the Roku and that's why this probably came up. Yes, it is. Let me remind you that there is a Amazon Instant video app for the iPad. Yes that I have it. Okay that allows you to do the same thing. Yes, that's cool I have it already cool. It is cool.

Justin Edelstein: So the reason why I picked this was like 16 picks Change their interface around a month ago something like that and I don't like it I thought it was a lot easier to get around the Roku before with the Roku remote The Roku remote also has like hot buttons for things that they think you'll use very often So like there's a Netflix button on the remote for like no parent reason except for the fact that they feel like Netflix is Probably one of the things you're gonna use more often than anything. Well The reason why I'm picking this application for your iPhone is because it has buttons for all those things. Right. And I feel like that's the easiest way to get around the Roku is to just pick the channel as they call it the application that you want to go into.

Justin Edelstein: So, you know, instead of finding scrolling around and finding the using the arrows and finding the Amazon instant video channel, you just. Click the Amazon instant video channel and boom you're in and then you can search using a real keyboard as opposed to Like do you go inside the app

Jason Atwood: And then search I do Did you know that if you search one of Roku's big Advantages that if you search at the top level Roku it searches across

Justin Edelstein: All your channels cool I did not know that. Thanks for the pro tip.

Jason Atwood: Ass chat. So if you went in and search for Breaking Bad,

Justin Edelstein: It would then come across any of your channels that had Breaking Bad. You know what I'm really glad about just as a side topic because everyone who's listening knows we love streaming TV. We're going to do a streaming TV episode I feel. What does that mean? Means top 10 shows to go back and watch on streaming That you can get to now. To catch up on now, yeah.

Jason Atwood: That you may or may not have heard of. And if you're not using fan, or it used to be called fan hat and it's now called fan,

Justin Edelstein: You should be using fan for the... I used fan the other day because Netflix, I've been watching, catching up and binge watching on fringe. Yes. And it ends at season four on Netflix. Yes. So then I'm like, ah, there's one more season. Season five there's 13 more episodes and where are they so I go into fan and I look I'm like oh It's on Amazon instant video fantastic. So I pop open the Roku and I'm like, oh, it's not free. I have to buy it Hey, I was like, I don't like that cuz a lot of stuff's free, but then sometimes you have to buy it, right? Probably the first season for free. Yeah, the first four were free. It was just like Netflix So I'm like, oh I could buy this on iTunes. I could buy this on Amazon So then I was sort of weighing the pros and cons and I was gonna wait.

30:24 Justin Edelstein: And I'm like, oh maybe I'll wait. And then I got an email from Netflix yesterday. Fringe season 5 now available. I'm like, oh!. Wouldn't you like to watch season five? It is now available. Did you get that email? I'm sure fringe season five isn't like the hot email to send out to

Jason Atwood: Everybody But I also turn off almost all my stuff from all my services So it's possible I don't get any emails. I just don't feel like that's an email that would go out to just anybody right?

Justin Edelstein: So that's really good. That's really smart. Anyway, my pick is Roku cuz I really like iOS. Yeah, I really like the interface of You know, I use remote for my Apple TV. I don't. use the Apple TV remote. I use the the remote app on the phone. So this is basically the same thing. Just for Roku. I feel like there are better interfaces The typing is where it brings together.

Jason Atwood: It's just the killer app for it. So I have one pick and two updates. So my two updates are quick just because I've been using them a lot and I wanted to talk about them. Oh, three updates. Three? Three updates. Okay. One is we picked the WeMo. We did. A long time ago because we were given WeMOS. We were. Right? And so we picked WeMOS. Correct. WeMOS are made by, is it Belkin? Belkin is the company. Yes. So they make this device that you plug into your power and then you plug something into it and then you can control it from like, you know, you can put timers on it and then you can control it from your iPhone, from your smartphone basically. Very cool. but at the time they said that they would then release next summer, which has now happened, the WeMo light switch.

Jason Atwood: So it's a light switch. You replaced your light switch and then it becomes a WeMo switch, meaning you can then control it, timers, all that, and see if it's on from afar. So that actually has been released. I've ordered two.

Justin Edelstein: All right. And they're going to they're on the way and I'll install them. You can come in and play them. Play with them. Play with them. If I want them. I do not really use too many light switches in our apartment. because a lot we have a lot of lamps yeah they're not my lamps are connected to two things that are turned on with the switch yeah mine are not okay speaking of the we mo I'll just throw a plug in there for the we mo so I bought a we mo for for my parents who have a cabin up in the woods Kevin the mountains and there's a pellet stove this cabin house Call them the cabinets a house and the the pellet stoves electric right so the idea is and I haven't tested this yet, but I'm thinking it's gonna work so you have to plug the the pellet stove to an electrical outlet, right?

33:39 Justin Edelstein: Now in the winter, it gets really cold. It's like negative degrees up there. Of course it gets. You get to the house, it's freezing. So you don't keep the heat on. It takes probably, it takes like hours to heat up. It takes hours to heat up. Like they go, they turn the heat up. And they go out for dinner. And they come back, it's still cold. Right. So I got them a WeMo. to plug the Pellet stove into right and keep it off and then before he leaves the house To drive up there from here in New York, right turn it on right and you can naturally see that it turns on and that should turn The pellets stove on. And heat the house up for them by the time I get there. That is correct.

Justin Edelstein: So that is hopeful, I June 2014.

Jason Atwood: Oh, that's not far away. It's not far away. All right, so my other pick My so that was my one update so the switches the switches are available. They're on Amazon They haven't shipped yet then you can control whatever that thing is connected to do with your phone. So it's kind of cool. The other thing is the... the paper karma, which I picked last week. I've been using it a ton though, like literally hitting a bunch I've been using it for weeks.

Justin Edelstein: You've been getting a decrease in spam mail? Yes, decrease in spam mail. Significant. I've been feeling it. I've got to really go with it.

Jason Atwood: And then the last one is the, I think I picked this as part of last week's too, Today or yesterday they released an update to the software that now makes it completely wireless Meaning you can have it anywhere and wirelessly scan to your computer It doesn't have to be connected by this to connect at all You just walk over to the scanner

Justin Edelstein: Pop it in hit go and then they They didn't they didn't they didn't they didn't they didn't they didn't. connected by the Fujitsu software yeah in

Jason Atwood: The Fujitsu software right but anyway that update came Yesterday, so if you were even thinking about it, so you can still do it by the way someone asked you about it after that episode Oh, yeah. Yeah, someone asked if that was a good one Twitter. Yep Alright, then my pick of the week. Oh, well, thank you Why don't we get I literally could do I could literally I thought about maybe an episode We're about let's not just pick your real pick.

Justin Edelstein: No, I'm saying I really like the fact that you're picking this Why? Can you tell me why? Try to talk me out of it before I pick it. Well, I can't explain it. Because then you have to you have to pick it first so then I can explain why I don't. Like you're doing it. But is it something that like I promise I would do? Is it something that you promised? Nothing at all. Go ahead and pick it. Then I'll explain why. I'll give everybody a good reason to download it too. Okay,

36:40 Jason Atwood: So I as you know, I'm a big fan of the sports go on a lot of road games and of the sport that I like and I'm also a big fan of Passbook right?

Justin Edelstein: Yeah, we both like the past. So the other day I'm wrong about Passbook At first we didn't like it. At first it's come around.

Jason Atwood: So the other day I was going, I'm headed down to the Bucks vs. Dolphins Monday Nighter in Tampa Bay in October and I went to buy the tickets and I went to buy them through the Bucks website. So go to Bucks. I went on eBay and all these other places and just like the prices were crazy. Bucks don't sell out. You can buy on that website. So you just go so let- let me see if I can just get the regular tickets. Of course, most or all NFL teams I think are funded by or back-ended by Ticketmaster. So I go in and I do the Ticket, Ticketmaster thing. And the Ticketmaster basically, and I'm picking the iOS version of this, but the experience of picking it online where they actually show you the exact seats and you click seat one, seat two, and you can see it exactly where it is.

Jason Atwood: You was amazing, especially for someone who's like me who's very picky, like I want to be don't want to be too far in the middle, whatever you get to see exactly where it was. It was great. So then at the end, they're like, Oh, you can get them printed blah, blah, blah, or use the app and get them on your past book. And I was like, Oh, I love you so much. So Ticketmaster for iOS, I think Android was there. You then sign in with your account it then shows you what you've bought and then for this game That I'm going to you can then find it see the tickets Right, which you have on your thing. You can actually check in with the app They can scan the app as well or you can say the QR Yeah, it has a QR code on it that you can say you like there boom right QR code or you can say boom Add to passbook and adding to passbook is exactly where I did and then now it's my past book and now I'm happy.

Jason Atwood: So Ticketmaster for iOS really nice. I have a bunch of other picks. Let me tell you why. Alright now tell me why you don't like it.

Justin Edelstein: Because Ticketmaster for iOS and here's why everyone should go download Ticketmaster for iOS. We're kind of letting the cat out of the bag here. There's like a back door. When you try and buy... Oh, when you have to tell people about this backdoor... Oh, they're gonna be buy... I'm... They're gonna... You're just told me about the app, they're gonna be downloading it.

Jason Atwood: Whatever, it doesn't matter. Oh my god. They would have downloaded this, but you're not telling them something that I never would have even told them about.

Justin Edelstein: For some apparent reason, when you're trying to get tickets to a very, very popular event, like a concert that's extremely popular, or... Taylor Swift. Taylor Swift for example Ticketmaster seems to or it would appear to Set aside a certain amount of tickets that only get sold Through the mobile device meaning meaning if you go on ticket master comm and try and buy the tickets it'll be like yeah sold out or wait 15 minutes in a queue and then you get there and it's like You can't buy the tickets you want or whatever If you try it on the mobile, you just get them right away.

39:54 Jason Atwood: It's kind of amazing. So it's the same time. So they say 10 o'clock on Sunday they're available.

Justin Edelstein: You still have to go. Oh yeah, do it at that moment, but you're sort of back-dooring your way in through the mobile. So your theory is they set aside a certain set. that are available only on mobile. You're not going through the same sort of channel, if you will. Do you think it's seats that no one could buy somewhere else?

Jason Atwood: Or do you think that's just easier to get through because of less congestion?

Justin Edelstein: Easier to get through because of the congestion. Okay. I don't feel like they're like their seats aside to say these are only sold on the mobile. I just feel like the congestion to actually get through the... Tons of people trying to get to the tickets Hey, give it a whirl. Give it a whirl.

Jason Atwood: Whatever go for it. Other things that have worked for me in the past are following you at Just Out. Maybe we'll record one in advance. I don't see a reason why not. or something fun. Alright, we'll be back, definitely next week, and until then, as always, enjoy those cloudy days.