Austin Sauce - Episode #44 of CloudFocus Weekly

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00:10 Jason Atwood: And this is the 44th episode of CloudFocus Weekly for the third week of May 2011. This episode is titled, Awesomesauce. CloudFocus Weekly is sponsored by Arkus, cloud computing experts. I'm your host, Jason Atwood, and joining me today, 44 times in, 44 times a champion, Justin Edelstein, my co-host and partner here at Arkus, or one of the partners here at Arkus. How are you doing, Justin?

Justin Edelstein: I'm all right. I was waiting for you to ask me how I'm doing. That's my cue.

Jason Atwood: I spent a lot of time together this week. Too much. Way too much.

Justin Edelstein: One would say too much.

Jason Atwood: I would say it's only for the fans of this podcast that we are actually even in the same room today. Yeah. Since we traveled from Sunday through actually today this morning at 1230 a.m. when we got in, we've been together for pretty much the entire time. Yep. So let's get this over with. So we got some news. There's been some happenings while we were traveling to the deep down south. If anybody can guess, I hope you can guess, pretty obvious by the title. LinkedIn, WENT, IPO, that's kind of cool news. New York City is going digital, it's going to be the digital city. Google News, they have some new features and actually changing up their pricing scheme might be as interesting. We have some NetSuite news, NetSuite and Yammer integration. integration. Talk a little bit about that and what that might mean for a company that we talk about more often than not. And then we'll make our super-duper picks of the week.

Jason Atwood: You're basically going to steal my pick from last week that I didn't do, and I'm going to do all the picks that I had last week that I wrote to a blog post. All right. Excellent. Let's get going. So first of all, this is a LinkedIn going IPO, which happened, what, yesterday or two days ago? Thursday. That would be yesterday. It had a price of 45 bucks. We talked about LinkedIn a lot in the last, I don't know, since our podcast started last August or July actually. We're coming up on our one year. And it went all the way up to I think 105.

Justin Edelstein: It's high yesterday, topped out at, oh, let's see, what is this? 109? No, 115.

Jason Atwood: And it's at about 100 now?

Justin Edelstein: It's at 100.79. As we speak, I have the Google Finance page up. Nice.

Jason Atwood: Google Finance with real-time quotes. Real-time updating. Updating all the time. So you know, interesting I think in terms of the, you know, is this sparking the next round of sort of the next bubble? Yes. Yes it is. Your comment to me, which we said yesterday, or you said, oh well Facebook's worth, you know, $500 a share. I would argue, actually you probably look up Google. Look up Google. Google is still up in the 500s. And FaceTime is more than that. Facebook. Facebook. 527 is Google. 527, yeah. I would say, I would say then if they were, which again I've read some of the posts by Zuckerberg and seen his interviews, he's basically said, you know, going IPO isn't my mission. I don't really want to go IPO. There's nothing I get out of it other than, you know, tons and tons of money, but he has tons and tons of money. And so he sees it as a way of losing control. I've not heard anything of them talking about going IPO other than I think their investors are at some point going to say, hey listen, we kind of want to cash out.

03:35 Jason Atwood: But it's interesting because, you know, LinkedIn by itself isn't really, I mean, the technology beyond LinkedIn personally, and there might be some great technology behind it, isn't really extraordinary. You know, the idea of connecting up with linking people in messages and they've added on stuff about contacts, company pages you can follow now. They've basically taken a lot of this stuff. They integrate with Twitter very well. But in terms of an actual technology base, I don't think it's something that, you know, a couple programmers in six months couldn't pump out on a new platform. But it's clearly about the data, right?

Justin Edelstein: Millions of users.

Jason Atwood: 100 million users and $100 a share. So how many are on Facebook? About 600 million now?

Justin Edelstein: I think more, 700.

Jason Atwood: Yeah, so a lot. By the time they get up there, they could be worth a billion.

Justin Edelstein: One billion dollars.

Jason Atwood: I don't know what that was, a thousand dollars a share. Any other thought on it? I mean, you're a big LinkedIn user.

Justin Edelstein: I do like the LinkedIn. I have my Twitter connected to it, which is a lot of people mention to me like, you're on LinkedIn a lot. You're like up to, I'm like, no, I don't really go to it all that often. When I meet someone new, I do have a tendency to go and try and link in with them, which is a good practice. But I feel like this is the start of the next. Tech bubble. Tech bubble. And if there were to be a Super Bowl this year, I think we'll see a lot of Zynga commercials. All these different dot-com-y. Tech startups. Tech startups, social media, Groupon type of living social apps and websites, they're popping up and they're IPOing and we'll see where that goes. We'll see if people, if this is different or if history will tell us something else.

Jason Atwood: That we'll be right back in a big tech bubble that'll prop, in other words. Yeah, I mean, again, I really, I like LinkedIn as a product. I think they do some really great stuff. I think it fits a need that I have, which is I wanna keep Facebook pretty private, you know, under 200 friends. And I want, but I also want to connect with a whole bunch of people in tons of different ways. And don't, you know, a lot of colleagues and people. So then, you know, catch me up on LinkedIn. I think we both have custom URLs. So we're in there. Search for us. Jason Atwood, Justin Edelstein at Arcus. You'll find us. And we'll pretty much link in with anybody. Yeah. Which is the nice thing about LinkedIn. Yeah. It's a...

Justin Edelstein: If you ask me and I, and if you write in the thing I listen to your podcast, I'll definitely...

Jason Atwood: We actually had someone do that the other day, which was fun. All right, next news, I think is the most interesting. We are New York City people, we live in New York. You were born and raised. I'm a transplant, but I was 10, so it's been a few years. So Mike Bloomberg, mayor of New York, has announced that New York City is, plans to be the first, well, I guess, first next top digital city. Not that they're gonna, I actually-

06:46 Justin Edelstein: First next top, he really wants to be the top digital city.

Jason Atwood: I thought, when I read the article originally, or the headline, I thought, oh, so they want to become the next Silicon Valley. No, no, no. They want to be like digitally connected. So it's not that they want to have a lot of tech startups, although they do, but they want to be digital. So they're doing a lot of, they have this huge proposal or plan, I guess, roadmap, 68 pages long.

Justin Edelstein: Yup, that sounds like something that a government would put together.

Jason Atwood: It's interesting because you should read it. I started to read it and what the first thing I noticed was, I've read a lot of government. I live in an area of New York that does a lot of government stuff. So I ended up reading a lot of it cause I'm wondering what they're doing in the next phases. And they're very dry and very full of like, they're very dry. They're not full pictures. They're full of like graphs from 1985, right? But this is like full of all these great, pretty graphs and like over sizing fonts. And you can see that the person who did this not only did the not only built the proposal or whatever the plan but had an understanding of the way that people you know we read stuff now and big letters and sort of fun graphs and things like that. You know different colored fonts and so basically they're going to New York City is going to be hooking up all the different kind of social networks and bringing and using them to help empower the city. So everything from obviously Twitter to from answering questions. You know, they have a line called 311, which I don't know if you've ever called 311.

Justin Edelstein: I have because my car's been towed. Yep. And 311 will help you find where it is.

Jason Atwood: Yeah, they'll do anything. So I think they're going to kind of bring that to Twitter. So sort of customer service. At NYC Gov. Yep. Very cool. They're going to use Facebook for, again, more support, connection, hearing people's ideas. Again, connecting what is traditionally, like if I said to you right now, go complain about something to the government. You'd be like, I don't know how to do that. But I think this is a way to bring it to the social media, which is great, because we all know where to go to Facebook or where to go to Twitter, which is where we would naturally go anyway. In fact, when I was giving Verizon praise yesterday on as I was seeing 20 megabyte downloads on my 4G, and I did it on Twitter. And just like if they were messing up, I would pretty much do that on Twitter too.

Justin Edelstein: They're also gonna be the first city to use the just announced fast follow service, which will allow you to essentially get the SMS updates via Twitter, you know, Twitter old school, without Twitter 1.0, without actually having a Twitter account or following. Well, you can't follow if you don't have an account, but you can text follow NYC gov to the, you know, the 40404, and you'll get the SMS messages. Right. Without actually needing an account or anything. It's just quick follow.

Jason Atwood: So I'm really impressed. The one that, you know, Twitter and Facebook, okay, that's kind of, you know, that is a little bit like everybody's doing that. I thought it was interesting, it's like they brought in Foursquare and Tumblr, and Foursquare, they're gonna build, you know, badges, which is...

09:52 Justin Edelstein: I want every badge.

Jason Atwood: And they're gonna put them all around the city, so you basically have to go to different places in the city. Public places, parks...

Justin Edelstein: I will be doing this.

Jason Atwood: It's kind of fun, because I think it gets people excited about the city and getting out of the house. Although it is a rainy day today, but... So, what, I mean awesome, I mean I'm, it's almost Austin sauce. It's, it's so awesome. No? I'm just shaking my head. Again, we've been together for almost five days straight.

Justin Edelstein: Oh, get me out of here.

Jason Atwood: All right. In Google news, because it almost seems like, well, Google IOS was last week. Was it last week? Yes. So there's lots of news that's kind of trickling out. Two that didn't make it into the big announcements, the Chromebook and all that are coming out now. Google Sheets is getting pivot tables for all you Excel junkies. They're getting pivot tables. Has pivot tables. Already has.

Justin Edelstein: Launched. Launched. Done. People who want to summarize their data in Google Sheets, go for it. Hop right in. The argument between Excel and Google Sheets

Jason Atwood: gets slimmer. Give me a number, one to ten. Ten being Excel. Right. Ten being Excel. let's do 100 100 100 100 being Excel where is Google in in relation how far are they how close today getting to what Excel does you're for me or for like a

Justin Edelstein: finance person for you oh for me they're like 85 90 percent of the way they're

Jason Atwood: really for a real Excel person probably not even close like 30s probably yeah I feel like for me they're about 50 percent people build like their whole system in Excel. Their filtering isn't there yet and just handling of a lot of data like again my machine you know my MacBook can render thousands of rows of data in Excel faster than Google Sheets can render it. Fine they can render it on their server but they still have to pump that data over to me and then have my browser which is basically the lowest point, lowest common denominator render it, which is what makes it slow. So yes, for sharing, it's awesome, right? For sharing, it's great. You can put some stuff up there, small stuff, lists and things like that. But beyond that, the integration stuff isn't there yet. As we were talking about integrators, pumping data in and out of Salesforce, there are ways to pump it to Google Sheets, but it's not as natural as just getting it right to Excel.

Jason Atwood: So yeah, I would say for me, 50%, but great. I mean, I love that they're moving up. And they're doing two things to their account program, which is interesting. Tell me. One is that they're all sort of good and bad. So the free edition, I think they're limiting. So you can sign up for Google accounts for free, right?

Justin Edelstein: Yeah, just Gmail.

Jason Atwood: No, Google Apps. You can sign up for Google Apps. So you have a full app account, and it looks like the one you paid for. But they've kind of been hiding it recently.

12:55 Justin Edelstein: I thought they had it, and then they took it away.

Jason Atwood: No, it's still there. It's still there? I put someone on it recently. I thought they took it away. I put someone on it recently. You kind of have to click around to get it. It's almost hidden. But they're not limiting it to 10 licenses. No, you can't do that. I don't know if you have to use 10 or if you can only use 10. Either way, they're limiting it. So they're making it less and less useful for free.

Justin Edelstein: Do you have your own domain to do this? Yeah. Oh, OK.

Jason Atwood: No, you can use it with your own domain. You don't have to. Gotcha. But you can use it with your own domain. And then the other thing is they're going to monthly. So Google Apps right now is the very, very high cost of $50 a year per person. It's a lot. Which breaks out to just tiny amounts of money.

Justin Edelstein: As we just traveled for the last five days together.

Jason Atwood: Together, too much time.

Justin Edelstein: We really got the benefits of using Google Apps. You log right in, you're in. You're done. You open your browser, anywhere you're in. Yeah.

Jason Atwood: And I even went a step farther. I downloaded Chrome, and then I synced up to Chrome, used Chrome Sync, which then pulled down all my bookmarks, pulled down all my preferences, pulled down all my extensions. So basically, we had Chat running. We had email running. We had Docs running. And of course, we had Salesforce. Because we loved the process. On the road. Yeah. It was.

Justin Edelstein: Stuff that we could not even do at the largest company in the world. The second largest. Whatever. IBM's largest. Couldn't even do that. Couldn't even do that. Well, yeah.

Jason Atwood: They would have given you a laptop. and they would have said VPN in somewhere. You would have screen shared or something. I will say the one thing that I noticed and thought of as we left and now think that I went to look for the feature today, which doesn't exist, is Google Chrome doesn't have a master password set for it. All right. So Firefox, you can, you can set a master password that you can't get into the Firefox until you add this, or you can't do any of the password stuff until you give a master password.

Justin Edelstein: remember it won't use your remembered

Jason Atwood: password. So I think that's good policy. Chrome doesn't have that. I would suggest that something they add, especially with things like chromium and Chromebooks. And if you really want people to sort of log into their accounts and we are using two factor, which is great. Again, it worked beautifully. So there is a higher level of

Justin Edelstein: security. I wouldn't say it's great. Really?

Jason Atwood: Works like a charm. I don't know. It works. It's annoying. Yeah, but it's meant to be I know but you know you did it once and then that's it, but it's annoying still yeah

Justin Edelstein: It's supposed to be the method for it to do it is pretty cool I mean yeah, Oh pop up an app on your phone and pumping like eight numbers, and it's pretty easy

Jason Atwood: It's pretty couldn't be easier. You don't carry a fob no replaces that fob stuff

Justin Edelstein: That was all rage five ten years ago or whatever still people still use

Jason Atwood: Wife still works at a big sports company, and she has her fob Salesforce carried those people carry around fob yeah Those people well interesting Salesforce doesn't have to factor I mean they have sort of authentication checks, but they don't have to factor yet No, it'll be interesting to see if they something they add on as a feature I'm sure there's some way to add it on all right, and then in Oh, well with a little other piece of cool news is now. They're doing their accounts you can now bill monthly That's what I was trying to get to so It's a little bit more dollars. I'm five dollars a month is a premium $60 to $60 a year You pay that $10 premium. Whoa. Whoa. Yes. $5 per user per month. Whoa. Yep. Takes a lot of money. So well it's most of these companies, like even Dropbox and Evernote and...

16:36 Justin Edelstein: $5 a month is so cheap for what you get with Google Apps. It's amazing. It's cheap even for the Gmail. Even with 27 gigabytes. Just use mail. 27 gigabytes.

Jason Atwood: I looked at my finger there, I'm using 3%. Yeah. I have 7,000 emails. And it's for five bucks. That's pretty good. Alright, so that's interesting news. And then the last piece is NetSuite.

Justin Edelstein: NetSuite, who we rarely talk about.

Jason Atwood: Yeah, we talk about them occasionally. We do business with them occasionally, meaning we integrate Salesforce to NetSuite occasionally. We happened to meet a NetSuite integrator down at our training.

Justin Edelstein: Well, they had their big conference called Sweet World 2011 last week.

Jason Atwood: I have a sweet tooth for Sweet World. Yeah. Sorry.

Justin Edelstein: Last week or the week before. Sure.

Jason Atwood: So I say don't call it Sweet Force. Dream Suite. Dream Suite. Dream Suite. Dream Suite. It's a good one. Maybe they'll change that. So for those of you who don't know NetSuite, NetSuite is a sort of, it's cloud computing platform. It's an ERP. It's got everything. It's got everything. So it's all you could need. all you could need it's CRM it's it's finances it's inventory it's it's got what the guy said 35 modules 46 46 modules lots of modules don't know why you remember that I remember random things like that and in a lot of ways they're competitors to a lot of companies I mean they're obviously because they do so much they're competitors to Salesforce in some ways because they do CRM but they're you know in other ways a lot of people use them in conjunction with CRM. I don't know a lot about them. I've seen the product a couple times, I've seen demos. I think I've logged into like maybe a test account. I know that from our customers generally the usages they use it as the finance back end and they use Salesforce as the CRM back end or our office management or whatever else they're using it for and then they sync them through some third-party provider and then what they say is that Nest Suite in general, very good good for what it does on that piece but more expensive on a per user per month so you don't want to throw every one of your users in there because it kind of adds up more so than Salesforce which a lot of people think is expensive when you compare it to Zoho or Hi-Rise or any one of these other suites. Dabble DB. Dabble DB which doesn't exist anymore as of two days ago but there so I think in this seems like it seems like a direct response to the news is that in direct response to what we would consider the chatter for Salesforce, NetSuite is now integrating with Yammer. Yep, the NetSuite social, Suite social I think they're

Justin Edelstein: calling it. Well they made two announcements. One, they're planning deep integrations with Gmail and Google Calendar, deeper integrations with Gmail and Google Calendar, which is, you know, all right great, your CRM or whatever

Jason Atwood: integrates with email and calendar. Right. That should do that. So one of the things I wish Salesforce would integrate deeper. It's integrated, it's just I want it to go like two levels deeper.

19:41 Justin Edelstein: I want more than just the button. Click the Gmail button that you're sending, compose the Gmail.

Jason Atwood: It throws in your email to Salesforce.

Justin Edelstein: Well that's what it should do. It actually shouldn't even do that. It should just, like you shouldn't even see that. It should just work. Whatever. But the big piece is that they're tacking Yammer into NetSuite and

Jason Atwood: they're gonna be socializing their business objects. So give me a Yammer 101. Cliff Notes Yammer meeting. Well Yammer is essentially, and I haven't played with it in a while,

Justin Edelstein: in probably six, seven months, but Yammer is, it's kind of like like Chatter, but I think it has a few more features. It has, you know, your social feed, your news feed, you can subscribe to people. It's like Twitter, but for the enterprise. Very much like what chatter.com is, right? And they're going to tack Yammer into NetSuite and allow you to follow records. Sounds familiar.

Jason Atwood: Yeah, just like Chatter.

Justin Edelstein: So you'll have your profile and your groups, and now you'll be able to socialize the data within NetSuite. So if something changes, it can pump to Yammer, and if you're following that record, you get the update.

Jason Atwood: still a Yammer account?

Justin Edelstein: Not clear to me if it's a Yammer account or if it's like a package that you sort of get and it's part of your NetSuite account. Unclear to me. Whether it's like, oh, I want to tack the SuiteSocial onto NetSuite and when you do that, you don't need a Yammer account. The technology just sort of sits there and does the work as opposed to like needing to log into multiple things. Right. Or having your Yammer account stand alone on your iPhone app and logging into Yammer and seeing the NetSuite data. Not sure how it's all going to work, it's just announced. Yeah.

Jason Atwood: So I think what my interest has peaked because, okay, so I think that makes Yammer a little bit more relevant because it's what Chatter sort of brought that Yammer didn't have. Yammer has, I'm sure Yammer has more features than Chatter. Just guessing.

Justin Edelstein: Definitely does.

Jason Atwood: But it doesn't have that integration, which is what we find, you know, we find interesting is that objects chatter themselves. But I would suggest that the security thing is what I would then be really interested because chatter is based on the Salesforce object model and security. So if you can't see an object, you're not going to see the chatter on it. Great. But in now with you have connecting two together, how are you going to handle that security model because if I can't see this and put it in a separate account but I can follow that person on that account I just think that that could become...

Justin Edelstein: You don't know how it works.

Jason Atwood: I don't but I know that they're two different companies and they're connecting them through an API so my guess is that it's either they've either solved it for it but my guess is that would be my kind of like wow how are they going to handle that because that's not an easy thing to handle. You know from someone who looks at this stuff a lot and looks at permissions and profiles and roles and permission sets and all that, that thing gets a little complicated. Now you add in another layer to that, which is this social networking on the outside on a different app, whatever. But it actually makes me want to go back and maybe I will over the weekend when I'm spending time away from you. Oh, that would be great. I will go look at Yammer. Can't wait for that. All right. And that actually wraps up the news of the news we have. We cut out a couple other things but because we have actually more than a few more than a few picks I'm gonna let you go for your CloudFolks app pick of the week first.

23:29 Justin Edelstein: Oh snappy snap. Yep. Okay so I'm picking a product that is a kind of third-party Twitter app tie-in. I can't wait to hear about this product. Well you told me about it and I fell love with it. It's called Buffer. The website is bufferapp.com and what Buffer allows you to do

Jason Atwood: is create a queue. I just want to stop you for a second. Go ahead. Are you sure you want to tell people about this? Why? Because it kind of, I'm joking and there's a big smile on my face, but it kind of gives away you the magic sauce a little bit. Yeah, people should know. Okay. I mean it says it on Twitter, tweeted from Buffer. But you don't know if Buffer's an app. You don't know if Buffer's just a tweet app. I'm giving it away. All right, you're giving away the secret. I'm

Justin Edelstein: Giving away the secret. For those of you who listen, you're getting some awesome stuff here. It's called Buffer. Buffer app is the website. Bufferapp.com. It's a plug-in for Twitter, and it has browser buttons, etc. That when you click it and you're on a website or something like that, you can click it and it creates a tweet for you. That's nothing special. does is it allows you to create a queue of tweets. So you can go ahead and and you know as you're surfing the web just keep hitting the buffer button and it will just queue up all these things that you want to tweet and then on the buffer side on the website you can create a schedule. So you say I want to I want tweets to go out at 9 30 a.m. 12 45 p.m. 1 22 p.m. 8 30 p.m. etc. all the way down with the free account you get up to 10 tweets in your buffer so that means you can have 10 different times per day that your tweets can go out and of course they don't have to be links that you're finding on the web you can just go to to the Buffer app and just type in whatever you want, hit add to queue and it will add it to your queue. That's the free version that supports the continual stream, the 10 tweets in the Buffer for one Twitter account and a free Chrome extension, which is just a button. It also works in Safari. That's where I use it from.

Jason Atwood: Well I think actually the Chrome extension is actually an extension. The Safari one, They're both extensions. They're both extensions. Yeah, they're both extensions. They're not just links.

Justin Edelstein: So then there's a $5 per month one that allows three Twitter accounts, 50 tweets in the buffer, and a two team member account, which I'm not exactly sure what that is. And then there's a premium for $30 a month, not sure why you would ever do this, but unlimited tweets in your buffer, nine different Twitter accounts, four team member accounts, and a direct line to the founder. Love that. So if you're like a big company and you're crazy with social media and you just want to just have people just pumping stuff out, you can have it buffered for $30 per month.

26:40 Jason Atwood: See the tagline under premium?

Justin Edelstein: Yeah, Guy Kawasaki liked tweeting.

Jason Atwood: I would have said someone else, but anyway, that's cool.

Justin Edelstein: Yeah, I mean it's cool you get metrics, you get analytics, so if you're pumping out a tweet with a link, you get to see how many times it was retweeted. If it's retweeted, it tells you how many people it has reached. So obviously, initially when you buffer it, when you tweet, it's reaching your followers. Someone four people retweet it, it counts up like how many people have actually seen this and then how many people have clicked the link.

Jason Atwood: Which is some general analytics, which is kind of cool. And we both started using it last week. It's really nice because we talk a lot about GTD and getting things done and one of the theories of stuff that comes out, we actually talk about Merlin Mann, but he talks a lot about doing sprints of your work. So instead of constantly going back to check your email, do it in a 15 minute or 10 minute sprint once an hour. You come in, you do your email, and then you go away and you do real work for whatever time. And I feel like Twitter and tweeting is kind of like that in that I feel like it's constantly kind of, oh I should tweet this, oh I should tweet this. But when I actually do it, I do it in a sprint. I mean I go in, I go, okay, time to tweet. And I don't want to put too much in at one time and I don't want to overload it so like seven tweets from me about seven articles, because it's kind of annoying for everybody else. So I love this in that I can kind of go in and set up my, and I saw you do it the other day, you must have hit the limit, the buffer limit. Did you? Yeah, I was just setting them up.

Justin Edelstein: No, I only set up like three or four.

Jason Atwood: Oh, I thought I saw like nine or 10 set up in there.

Justin Edelstein: I was looking at the analytics. I was looking at that.

Jason Atwood: But yeah, really cool. I've already came up with five or six new features that they could add on that I'm excited to tell them about. But cool, so bufferapp.com, freemium. Freemium. $30 a month seems a little bit much. So you just said that $5 a month gets you Google Apps, Gmail, Docs, Talk.

Justin Edelstein: This is a lot for $30.

Jason Atwood: So then $5 a month.

Justin Edelstein: Even the $5 version is quite a bit much.

Jason Atwood: A little bit much. I think people are afraid to do a dollar because I feel like they don't. 99 cents baby. But 99 cents a month. At $12 a year I would be in there. Buffer I've been there for about 20 bucks a year. Why? Multiple accounts. Multiple accounts. Multiple buffer accounts. Not really. Yeah really. You'd have to do one on either browser. Okay. You'd have to have four or five browsers. So as I promised last week, kinda, I said I had lots of picks and I was going to put them in a blog post. And I did. You did. But I kind of wrapped them up into an article about traveling.

Justin Edelstein: So it's because we were traveling.

Jason Atwood: Because we were traveling and I was actually doing all these apps and thinking about all these apps and so I put them into it. So I'm first going to say go to blog.archezinc.com and read my article or my blog post about it's called Tech Travel, Great Apps and Tech Gear to Help You Travel Like a Pro. I figured I'd try to fill the screen with one big...

29:43 Justin Edelstein: Did you travel like a pro? I did travel like a pro. feel like a pro when you're traveling?

Jason Atwood: Listen, when I connected up my iPad to the TV in the hotel and watched movies off of it instead of watching whatever crud was on I felt like I had my own personal DVR in there and I felt like a pro. But anyways, some stuff, I talk about gear, I talk about things you should bring, not being groundbreaking, but kind of a couple hints. But I'll talk about the apps so I'll kind of lay out all the apps and put three or four of them. So first app that I think for my Cloud Focus pick of the week, picks of the week, is TripIt. I think I've picked this before. A couple of these I picked before, so I'm kind of rounding them up and maybe all of them will add up to one full pick. TripIt, which is a website that allows you to, basically every time you get an email from a confirmation for a hotel, for a car, for a plane, you just forward it off to plans.tripit.com. You've signed up there already and then it builds you a trip. That's cool. Yeah, okay, fine that's online, grab the app, the iPhone, I think they have Android and an iPad app and it then syncs down and creates this these trips on your thing with all your confirmation information, location, address, it basically builds you a great little itinerary which what I use as far as I then send it off by email to people, loved ones, family members, you know if I were if Justin were to you know do something horrific and I wasn't to come they would know where I was. So that's a great feature. Add on to that, there's an app called FlightTrack Pro, which will then read from your TripIt account and create FlightTrack information. So it'll track every flight, like where it is, when it's taking off, it'll send you push alerts. You can also sign up, if you don't wanna pay for that, I think it's like 4.99, you can buy the Kayak one. Kayak has FlightTrack status. Problem is Kayak doesn't read from TripIt. but you can put in the flights. But Kayak does a nice thing. If you sign up for the online, it'll send you emails too. So every time something happens to the flight, it'll send you an email saying it got delayed, it's going, it landed. And so it's a little annoying when you get there, but you basically have every piece of it tracked out so you can track it via email because sometimes your other communication is not working. Then if you're in those two apps, you can use the one which I love is called Flightboard, which actually bounces from Flight Tracker. And it basically, it's for the iPhone and iPad, they might have Android versions, which gives you that flight board, like that departures or arrivals. You can look up any airport. It basically shows it just like it. And then you can bounce between that and other apps. It'll tweet it or tweak the flights. But basically you can sit there instead of going over to the flight board and seeing what things are, you can basically watch it on your own personal flight board. It looks great on the iPad because it looks like the actual flight board that you see in every airport. So those are my three. I mean, I would say the other thing I'd go for, that kayak flight status. The other ones I'd add in is, go check out when you're doing your flights and you're with airlines, hotels, car rental agencies,

32:56 Jason Atwood: go see if they have apps. Like a lot of them have built custom apps that do some neat things. American allows you to check in via it, via check in on the app. So does Delta in almost 20 or 60, I think 60 airports now. I looked at Hyatt, Hyatt had some stuff. So they're pretty basic at this point, but they're getting there. They're starting to add features to them, they're updating them, they're adding in some of the kind of like nicety features. They'll tell you how many miles you have, they'll show you your upcoming trips, they allow you to print your boarding pass, you know, kind of send it off as an email to somebody. So again, if you just wanna send the flight information. So nice little integrations that they build in. So check again, I know American Continental, Delta, it's Continental, Delta, same. They all have them. And then Hyatt Hurts has a good one. You can actually find the local one, find the local, the closest Hurts dealership, so.

Justin Edelstein: I'm ready to go on another trip with you.

Jason Atwood: Because I'm such a flight pro, such a pro. You're awesome. So that's it. So again, go to the whole article with all sorts of gear stuff. We should probably pick, the one last pick we should pick because we played at the entire time down there

Justin Edelstein: mbh and i think it'd be a big jam on the ipad yeah best game ever

Jason Atwood: nine ninety nine you gotta get that for this is for uh... for anyone who

Justin Edelstein: is between the ages of i would say twenty early twenties and it's that game that you grew up playing in the arcade And it's awesome.

Jason Atwood: I spent, I thought about it, it is ten bucks for the iPad, and the iPad version and the iPhone version are different, which I don't like. I hate when they do that. It's the same thing.

Justin Edelstein: I'm not playing that game on an iPhone though.

Jason Atwood: Yeah, no, you can't, you could play it on, but it's not.

Justin Edelstein: Not after playing on an iPad.

Jason Atwood: But I thought about the money in college. It was in our sort of, you know, student center, and I remember the pumping, just dollars and dollars and dollars, and quarters and quarters and quarters and that. So I probably paid for, not an iPad's worth of it, but definitely the game over in the out that I played it in the uh put it on the whole trip back. I had a great time. I'm halfway through my first or maybe more than halfway through my first campaign. I'm through my second campaign. Yeah I'm in the middle of my second campaign. I turned on Big Heads. Me too. And I don't like the Big Heads. I don't well I was just doing it for fun and then I changed the ball to America. Oh

Justin Edelstein: I was playing with the USA ball now I'm playing with like I think it's called Cobalt or something. It's like a blue, shiny blue ball.

Jason Atwood: Oh, nice. It's just a fun game. It's a fun game. It really is. And I think they've done some neat things on the iPad. Anyway...

Justin Edelstein: We should play a game against each other on the podcast. Next week... So that people can hear the boom shakalaka.

Jason Atwood: Next week, well, and we played multiplayer.

Justin Edelstein: We did. We played over Bluetooth. Which was okay.

Jason Atwood: I thought it was pretty good. I'd like to play together over Bluetooth. Let's see how that works. can play together over Wi-Fi. Yeah, it'll be better. I don't know, I think Bluetooth has less lag. I don't know. Alright, so that wraps up the Cloud Focus episode number 44. Again, the blog is at blog.arkasinc.com. You can subscribe. If you want to follow the company, that's twitter.com slash arkasinc. If you want to follow Justin here and all his NBA boom shuklaaka jams, he has twitter.com slash just edelstein. And I'm at twitter.com slash jasonmatwood. And And then where are the whole companies on Facebook? Where we post, if we post blog posts, we post our blog posts and, sorry, podcasts up on Facebook. So if you just want to see it in your Facebook feed.

36:35 Justin Edelstein: You could comment on it there.

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