Red Hot Registration - Episode #91 of CloudFocus Weekly

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00:17 Jason Atwood: I'm your host, Jason Atwood, enjoying me for me for here. We are we a I Oh, the whole Dreamforce. That's what we're doing? That's kind of cool. Oh, okay.

Justin Edelstein: I guess we- I guess we can't really talk about it. Oh, no. Well, we're not there yet. We don't even know if we're going to get there. Go to 91? Yeah. Well, we're at 91 now. We got like that a hundred. We got another couple months. I already figured it out.

Jason Atwood: July is it. July 16th. I'll be on vacation. July 20th. I'll be on vacation. Thank you very much. You're going to vacation for two weeks?

Justin Edelstein: All of July. Oh, OK. I'll be gone for the. The month of July.

Jason Atwood: So yes, sometime in July, we're going to hit our 100th episode. Sweet. Speaking of 100 episodes, not at all, we've got an agenda. We have the newest blog post that will be on ArcaSync, blog.arcaSync.com, which is actually not entitled Extreme Conga, but it's entitled What is it? We actually saw a we here at Arquis do something called a workshop, which is an internal thing that we only do You know for just sort of a learning thing we do that but so we asked the guy who's writing the blog post Roger to give a sort of Demo of what he did for a client and we thought it's so interesting and sort of learning about it that we said with Let's turn into a blog post. So I went to the Blogmaster and I had him.

Jason Atwood: That would be me. And I had him add it in as the next blog post. So give us a little flavor about what it is. Sure.

Justin Edelstein: I actually saw the finished product earlier this week, as you said. And I think the two of us both looked at each other and said, whoa, that warrants more. than just showing it to us. Let's make it public. Yeah, so, you know, what, what young Roger did was, you know, we'll give him a name. We'll put him out there. His name's on the blog post. What Roger did was he, he had some pretty stringent requirements from a not-for-profit I needed report. back to the government as per the that the government wanted it in but obviously not in they don't they're not gonna log into Salesforce and get it and a simple export of a report wasn't gonna work because it turns out it was an export of about 10 to 15 different reports inside of Salesforce so that's where the conga composer, and extremeness comes in is Congo, one of our favorite, favorite app exchange applications from app extremes, allows you to take data from as many R ports as you want.

04:23 Justin Edelstein: There might be a limitation, but we haven't hit it at this point. We took, I think in this one, it was 10 to 15, something like that. Different reports inside of Salesforce, got it out into Excel, and then. the report had to actually be delivered into Excel, in an Excel format. So it was in like all these different sheets in Excel and pulled it all together into a master sheet that used a bunch of relook up format formulas and some if error type of formulas.

Jason Atwood: So it was really combining that. I think that the interesting piece, and he really does a great job of laying out what he did in the blog post that, again, I think it'll be available on Friday. Okay. is it's really using three different powerful things. It's using the power of Salesforce and all this reporting, but there's some things it just can't do, and the power

Justin Edelstein: Of Conga, which is- Even with joined reports. Because we tried with joined reports, and you can actually get it. We could have solved this with the joined report layout, except you can't export them.

Jason Atwood: Let's put that on the idea exchange. We'll throw that out there. And then- and then going through, you know, going through Congo, which is great at taking data out in multiple reports and then stuffing it into some sort of document. Then we use the power of Excel, which had all these V hookups built into the document that already was, you know, that was being populated by the Salesforce data coming through Congo, and then built this sort of, I mean, again, very specific. And the trouble was it wasn't just raw data, it needed to be like summarized data. It needed to be summarized. And it's like a summary of a summary. And like formatted it was like

Justin Edelstein: In salesforce it was like a true or false type of thing it either is or isn't and it's very easy to do that with a checkbox but in excel it needed to format you know ones and zeros into different things so it was really well done and a really nice use of one of our favorite products conga composer. Yep. And then next up we why don't we skip to the I'm looking at our agenda And I was gonna say you know dream force 12 is next on our agenda. Why don't we leave that for last? Okay, why don't we go to our? Third thing here, which is a product that just showed up inside of Google Docs, which I love I love me some Google Docs and this thing just showed up yesterday called research so you Jason are our or I don't go in there and touch that's what you do that's all you do here in Arctis you administer Google apps how is it that I got this feature turn this feature on, because it just popped up yesterday in the middle of a meeting this thing just popped up.

Justin Edelstein: So I don't know if you've listened to this podcast.

Jason Atwood: I have not. Called CloudFocus Weekly. I don't even know what you're talking about. There's one really good host in this other guy. Anyway, so a while back on this podcast we mentioned that Google in their product development life cycle for their cloud apps. was doing sort of a couple different things, new. And I'll re-mention them, because I think it's interesting for those of you who are at the, maybe you didn't listen to that one podcast. I don't remember. Episode 52, I don't know. But basically they were doing two things. One is they were doing a- Episode 52 stats are gonna go through the roof. They're gonna go through the roof. So, like episode 33, which is, anyway. it. How do I know this? So, they basically publish a calendar now, Google Calendar, smart, that tells you when all the voice is coming out.

07:56 Jason Atwood: And then as an administrator, you can choose two different things. You can either choose to be in the, whenever they come out, turn them on for me, or give me warning and allow me some time. You can't, very rarely can you not turn things on. Google doesn't allow you to not turn things on. You're basically gonna have it turn on, whether it's the new interface, whether it's Drive, whether it's whatever. Remember. It's turning on. They do a good job of warning you, but unlike Salesforce, which has gone more towards, you have to turn this on, although Chatter Messenger is something that's not bad. Even Chatter, you don't have to turn on. Right. But like some things they don't, they turn on them, let you turn it back off. Anyway. Like the new user interface.

Justin Edelstein: Right. So let's just... Anyway, I want to turn our org back to the old interface just for fun b I was b

Jason Atwood: An hour or no and a different or I was taking a test drive of something any who jumping off the rails any who going back in order to get to drive when it came out I had to flip us from

Justin Edelstein: Give me You know, if you from the internet and gives you links and you can click out and find things. So as you're writing your document, you can go search for things from within your document and find them. Not only can you do that, but you can hover over the links and cite them. So now you're like inserting live. citations and you can see I did it in our in our In our document our agenda here that I'm sharing when we had the extreme conga I went out and searched for app extremes and I put in the citation it put a little one there Yeah, and then at the bottom of the page it put the citation I see you're now doing it for a bunch of a bunch of things Okay, you're you're inserting images, but you can insert the links you can insert images it takes this And I just think of myself writing these research papers in college and just like going out and finding information, having to cite it properly and formatting and this and that.

Justin Edelstein: And this just puts everything in one place and just lets me do all that. Oh my,

Jason Atwood: This is fantastic. What a tool. I'm actually, the thing I'm excited about is The thing that, it does images, Google and it does... You're doing images right now. And it does something else which I love, which is it does, it does quotes. And as you know, as, because you're a part of it, in our Daily Scrum, which is our methodology for productivity, I guess, I put a quote at the top of the weekly Scrum. Yes, you do. And so now I don't even have to leave Google Doc to go find that quote. So, I'm kind of, no I'm very excited. It's a neat little feature. You know, it's Google saying we got data, we should, it's a great mashup of two things. But it is certainly not, I mean it's not groundbreaking anyway, it's just kind of like a neat feature.

11:28 Jason Atwood: I kind of like it. Google Docs, as we've talked about, has grown on me more and more and more. And now with Google Drive, like. We'll be right back. See you next week. You know, I'm basically trying to figure out this day today I was actually going in there and I was sort of organizing Google Drive I did the same thing today.

Justin Edelstein: Somebody sent me an attachment in an email that Was in relation to a client. It was some documentation around an API Yep, and I needed it to go into this client's folder And it made me think, where should I put this? Should I put this on our clan, our cloud land? Or should I drop this? Should I drop this on into my Google Drive? I ended up putting it in both places, which is probably not the right thing to do. But, but, That's. Probably the wrong thing to do. Yes- Yes, not even probably. But first, first I threw it in the clan you know, might need access to this. So I'm going to drop it in the Google Drive. So I just opened up my little finder, went to the client folder inside of the drive, and dragged it right in.

Justin Edelstein: And boom, it uploaded. I was like, ooh. Yeah. Ooh. Now, you just got me. Because I mean, dragging and dropping into the web interface to upload documents. you say crap I say it's fine it works it works it's how things work right but this is like oh man this is next level I just drop it in there and then it's shared and then I can go to it and share it with more people if

Jason Atwood: I want to fantastic interesting rattle on this Google Drive on a Chromebook book. Yeah.

Justin Edelstein: Does that even exist?

Jason Atwood: I don't know, but I'm saying Google Drive on a Chromebook. Oh, wait, a Chromebook becomes more useful.

Justin Edelstein: Well, Chromebook doesn't, I guess Google Drive isn't really a file system. Well, it is. It's syncing a file system. But Chromebook doesn't have a file system, does it? It will, because this... But you can access it through the web. Like, that's your inner, that's like an interface to... Google Drive you don't have to get to it from like your finder or from your my computer or whatever windows No, you can break you get both right, but I'm a I'm a

Jason Atwood: I'm a Chromebook user now I'm not sure and now I have sinking because the power of it is sinking That it's sinking down to your local machine not Again, there's all sorts of limitations to that. Unlike Jungle Disk, where it's not really syncing. We have a view, and it's a web.vue, but it doesn't mean the data is actually sitting there on our machine. This is I actually sitting on a machine, but so I drop a 10 megabyte file in a folder that you're sinking It'll think that fold that file down to your machine good Or bet don't saw you editing a file were you editing a file

Justin Edelstein: Is a spreadsheet were you editing a file today? Oh, yeah, I was yeah like it created like one of those like Aliases aliases on the web view oh because as you were editing it I guess so when you sell it out Yeah, Excel must have ran them when you exit out It goes away, I guess. Not sure. Interesting enough. I was like, oh, there's two of those, but one has like a dollar sign in front of it. You must be editing this file.

14:44 Jason Atwood: Anyway, I was totally, totally off topic,

Justin Edelstein: But... And the little features kind of... I like this little research feature. Again, I think of it as a really great tool for students. to be able to just, even while, just to be able to pop out to the internet real quick from inside of the document, get the information you need, cite it, include a link. Like it turns a paper into a bigger thing. Like not just like. Blog writers,

Jason Atwood: Like. Sure. Blogging, I would need to go look up that one thing, boom, boom, I can grab it, drag it in, it cites it, you know. Now I'd love to see a Google Docs to blog, sort of easier way to publish it.

Justin Edelstein: Didn't they get rid of Blogspot or Blogger, whatever it's called? Well didn't they like change it or get rid of it or do something to it? I feel like they did. Maybe. Alright, so let's go to our Dreamforce news. Dreamforce, you don't want to go to this last thing you just put on here? It's more of my, well,

Jason Atwood: We were doing a little search deal, weren't you? No, no, this is more of just, I'm just so excited. When are you?

Justin Edelstein: Show notes? Show notes.

Jason Atwood: So, in the non-cloud computing, not anything other than we're excited because we we're the new MacBook Pros are supposed to be coming out in June at WWDC. June 11.

Justin Edelstein: Is that on the Ar Arkus calendar?

Jason Atwood: It's on my personal calendar. I think the keynote started 11.

Justin Edelstein: Yeah 11 Pacifics that will be one o'clock. When can I order the thing that I already want but I don't know what it is?

Jason Atwood: Probably around three o'clock with the solid state drive this time. Yes.

Justin Edelstein: Probably around three o'clock. Cause mine, I need that. I just want I've said that I was saying it's a little lighter and I want it to be solid state because I've seen you open Excel files and I've seen me open Excel files and yours open way faster Yeah, so it's supposed to be literally the same machine just different drive so it's supposed to be lighter

Jason Atwood: Faster a new processor retina Retina display screens and just you know really much thinner because they're gonna get rid of they're gonna rid of some of the stuff that we've kept around I mean the CD 12 or Dreamforce X registration opened this morning today. This morning. And, and the big announcement I guess two days ago was that the red hot chili peppers are going to be the musical guest. As we discussed last week, I said there's almost very few bands that could ever get me to kind of go to the concert. Is this one of them? This is close. This is a band I'm kind of excited to go see. Join us. Yeah, I don't know, we'd love to have you. We'll see after being my feet for 15 hours I might be like yeah, red hot this I'm going home.

Jason Atwood: I usually I usually go home Home to the hotel.

17:49 Justin Edelstein: Yes, take a break an hour or two Grab some dinner and then go to the gala. That's usually what I go back my night Then go back out like I go back to the hotel get off my feet take a little break, eat some dinner, then go out to the gala. I've only been to one of the concerts where I've been there at the very start of the concert. I usually get there like somewhere at the beginning, sort of, but not like the band's already playing. The Foo Fighters was the only concert, concert where I got there. and like had little like they have the snacks and the drinks and things and then they open the thing to go into the actual concert right because I was that one I really wanted to go to I was in like the second or third rows a lot of fun but the other ones I just sort of hang in the back enjoy go to the open bar.

Justin Edelstein: Bar it's you know yeah I think it's nice I think I might be in this year I think you should have a good time so let's go through this do you register did you I did not Oh, why not?

Jason Atwood: Well, because I'm waiting for our sponsor. Oh, you need the code. The code that have not come out yet. I registered.

Justin Edelstein: I did not register as a sponsor. I registered as a sponsor, even though I am a sponsor. I decided to go at it on my own. Yep. So the registration flow was. just as good as it's been. Yep, it's fantastic. I'm halfway through, I'm stopped at some point. Oh, you stopped, okay. Yeah, so, but I can see how good it is. Yeah, the flow is so simple. You know what it looks like. Do you notice what it looks like? Oh, I do know what it looks like., yeah. What interface it is? It looks like the Touch interface. It's Touch. It does, it looks like the touch.salesforce.com interface. It was really dumb simple, said have you registered before, great. log in, I mean I started from the outside not logged in but I think you could have started it from inside the portal already

Jason Atwood: Logged in and started your registration that's what I had heard. Because if you try to get into the portal now as I try to do this in front of you I can't get to anything now. I'm like locked out until I register again. I basically have been booted back to registering.

Justin Edelstein: Right, but you can start register. What I mean is I can actually login and start registering. But everything that was there is gone.

Jason Atwood: Right. So all the stuff, all the groups, all the stuff, I can't access any of that now. I'm like my user type has been dropped down. In the past. You couldn't even do that.

Justin Edelstein: Yeah, no, the past was. This is nice though. You're logged in, it knows who you are, you can start your registration. The flow is... It's dead simple. It's like four steps, three steps. They ask you for your information. Which they pull from your profile. Right. If it's changed, which mine did, it changed. Yeah I had my, I don't know why, but I didn't have my business address in there. I had my personal address. So I changed it to the business address. Okay. Asks for my Twitter account, which I gladly gave it. And went through the hotel registration, booked myself at the old hotel. At San Francisco, can't give it out because I don't want too many people following me. Secrets must be kept.

21:06 Jason Atwood: And I already told people where I'm staying. Well I know, but until we all get in there...

Justin Edelstein: It's actually like a hundred dollars more than a lot of them. Really? The one I was staying there? Because we like it. That's where we always stay. But anyway, yeah. Registration open. I'm in. I was in the portal playing around. Tweeted out that I registered. Hit the little tweet button which was nice. It filled it in for me. Yeah, hashtag DF 12. I'm all about it. So we have in our little agenda. We have a little little picture here What's going on it looks like for certain Tuesday's team from little tiny

Jason Atwood: Little breakout sessions on Tuesday which is interesting because usually it doesn't kickoff until Thursday, so it looks like they've kind of

Justin Edelstein: They've done here they've there's there's only one keynote ah you know, some partner keynote, foundation keynote, new to Dreamforce that first night, where there's usually nothing happening beforehand, is that Tuesday. I mean, there's lots of things happening that Tuesday before the Expo opened.

Jason Atwood: Kind After you know early keynotes. Yeah, so we know we have to be there to have it set up by noon So it's going on Tuesday that actually get there Monday Monday to have it.

Justin Edelstein: That's a lot to yeah So then the highlights include the the keynote in the morning the Mark Benioff the to social enterprise I and a., I We're doing our work now.

26:32 Jason Atwood: We have whiteboards full of stuff we're gonna be doing. We were looking at swag the giveaway earlier. I mean, yeah, this is really our time to start kicking in as well as you know Just planning all the stuff that needs to go on special events and things like that. It's It's crazy stuff.. So anyway, but registration open happy day Everyone get in there. Yes, everybody get in so that's sort of the big jet cloud news this week Let's go into our CloudFocus app pick of the week. I know you have one. I do. Since I've been yelling at you to get one early. So you've been paying.

Justin Edelstein: You know what's funny? I have like four of them ready to go. So the next bunch of weeks I will have a bunch of them. What is your pick of the week? Alright, so this week, I was sitting here in our office in the podcast. studio in Times Square and I had a client sitting here with me and we were were just, you know, before he was leaving we were just, you know, kidding around. He said, hey, he was showing me this book. He went to this conference here in New York and had some drawings and I'm like, you're really good at drawing your ideas. Yeah. He said, oh, I'm nothing. You should see this series called RSA Animate. Have you ever heard of RSA Animate?

Jason Atwood: I know RSA as a security company. Me too.

Justin Edelstein: But there's more to it. OK. So he goes, oh, you've got to check this out. Go to YouTube and just type in RSA Animate. And what they do is they take like. I don't know if they're Ted talks, but they're Ted style talks because RSA has their own like innovation. Okay talks. Yep I forget what it's called. It's like Renaissance society They have the most amazing animated like drawings over talks Oh, I've seen those all their amazing where they start with like a whiteboard. They just draw some just draw. Oh, yeah They're gonna cool. They're very amazing. So We were watching the Changing I was like, these are so cool. I would watch these all day. So I went on my phone and I said, there's got to be an app for this. And there is.

Justin Edelstein: Isn't it nice when there's just an app for it? Yeah, I was like, there's got to be an app for this. I'm like, there's got to be an app for this. He's like, but you're watching it right now. I'm like, yeah, but I'm in front of my, I wanted like, whenever I'm sitting around, I want to just pull this up on my phone and watch it. So there's an app, an iPhone app, not an iPad, iPhone only, called RSA Vision. and they have more than just their animate videos they have talks, podcasts, all sorts of things within there but I downloaded it just for the animate or the animations. I strongly suggest that you go out there just go on YouTube, search RSA animations, you start typing RSA, it'll type ahead for you animations and watch any of them, literally any of them.

29:41 Justin Edelstein: I mean I watched the education one and then I watched one about.. the divided brain, which was also really interesting. You'll love them. If you like TED Talks, and they're like five, 10 minutes. Yeah, they're like 10 to 12 minutes long. They're not long. And the animations on the top of them, the content itself is really engaging, and the animations make it better. So check those out. Check out RSA Vision, the app,

Jason Atwood: And you can watch them wherever you are. So it's interesting, just as a side note. So. You found something on YouTube, which you have an app on both your iPhone and iPad that you can watch. It's built into the thing, and yet you went to try to find a specific app because you didn't want to use the YouTube app. Psycho-analyze me now. Well, I more think of it as because YouTube stinks. The app stinks. I never use the YouTube app ever. Because I don't feel like I can... and I was thinking about it as you were talking... you know sometimes I just wander off when you talk and I was thinking why use YouTube app go in and subscribe to the RSA channel and then go in and watch whatever I want to watch because the app never it never feels like Instacast or TED Talks or like what it should be like.

Justin Edelstein: You're right and what's funny is the app the RSA vision app all it does is load in the YouTube video. Right it just gives you a base field list. It's just giving me yeah a list. It puts it in context, I guess, because YouTube's so, like, broad and crazy and zany. That's the thing. It just puts it in a zone. I'm in this space and I want to watch this thing. I think that's what it does.

Jason Atwood: So, YouTube, you've got to learn something from this. If all this content exists on YouTube, why should I be going out to other places and getting the specific apps just to do it? Anywho, oh cool, I assume it's free. Totally free, alright. I too have another iPhone but not iPad app and another one that should be iPad. So many weeks ago for all of you listeners and or tweeters, I asked, is there something better than e-vite out there? And I got back a lot of suggestions and I went on the Google and I searched for things trying to figure out, because you're doing an invitation nowadays, I think, well, in the old days, you used to use e-vite and send out like an e-vite and then now there's sort of Facebook where you can put it all on the Facebook, right?

Jason Atwood: But I've done Facebook invites and I just don't find them as successful. I feel that it's just not as well organized and just the way it works. I don't know. There's something about it that I You have to be friends with everybody you invite. It's just a little bit clunky Because I'm having a big birthday bash in June, it's blank O. It's my blank O, so you can probably go. Yeah. Yeah. I'm turning 40 in June. It's not a big deal. So I'm throwing a party. And you're all invited. Everybody's listening. Just come on by. So I did this e-vite. And. end. And so I searched for anything. Anyway, I went to all these, I looked at all these new ones, these cool ones. It's like, this place and Google Bump and Figity Foe and there's all these like, you know, Web 2.0, Figity Foe.

33:00 Jason Atwood: And I went into each one to try to create a new invite. And I went, all right, that was cool. That worked. Okay, great. And then I went back to e-byte. And of course, it was easier and better. And I logged in and everything just worked. And I started my invite and I thought, and I forgot about it. My wife reminded me, you gotta get those invites out. So I thought, oh, but let me try an iPhone app. And lo and behold, there's an iPhone app. And it does exactly what I wanted to do. I built the entire EVA 8 in my iPhone, right? You can pick the color, do in the word, do whatever, you fill everything out. And then for the guest list, it just reads from your address book. It's perfect.

Jason Atwood: Perfect. absolutely perfect. It reads for your dress book, you pick the people, you hit send, and then you can load up on the address book, you can see on the e-vite, you can see who's responded, who's coming, who's not coming, get totals. It works flawlessly. e-vite you win hands down because the iPhone app, it should be an iPad app as well, but whatever. e-vite for the iPhone, it makes e-vite relevant again. free, use it, it's great. So that's my pick for the week. So that's it. If you want to read the blog post or any of the other 91 craft focus weeklies, you can go to blog.arkusinc.com. You can follow the company at twitter.com slash arcasink. I'm at twitter.com slash Jason M. Atwood. Justin's here at twitter.com slash justedlestein.

Jason Atwood: It's been a while. We're also on Facebook, facebook.com slash ArcaSync, where we post a blog post and we post CloudFocus Weekly. So if you want to subscribe there, if that's where you want to get it, it's a great place to like us, I guess. We're on Google Plus as well, where we do all the same stuff. So if you're in that place as well. And if you really just want the podcast, go to iTunes. and subscribe by iTunes or use our favorite app which is Instacast, a great way to get your podcast if you're really a big podcast listener, Instacast. Instacast is a great app. Until next week, we'll be back and until then, as always, Jason and Justin saying, enjoy this clubbing.