Chatter For That - Episode #131 of CloudFocus Weekly

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00:10 Jason Atwood: This is the 131st episode of CloudFocus Weekly for the last week of March 2013. This episode is titled... Chatter for that. Cat folks, we can sponsor by Arkus. You're a Cockney experts. I'm your host, Jason Atwood. Joining me for the 131st time in a row, consistently, is Justin playing around with his mic.

Justin Edelstein: I'm just trying to, I got some feedback that you sound clearer and louder than I do. Because I pronounce the words that I'm saying I do that too I think it's a mic thing you have the newer one you're using a better USB I I don't know I feel like you you've rigged this to make yourself sound better than maybe maybe Well, that's setting on the back of the snowball. Yours is set to three. What is mine set to? Yours goes to three. Oh, different settings. Alright, well there you go. We don't even know what those settings do. No, we do. I've hooked them up at one point. Alright, well we have... Yours is probably right, mine's probably wrong.

Jason Atwood: Well, we are moving to a new podcasting studio in a few months. And at that point we will re-look at everything. How's that?

Justin Edelstein: I want it to have one of those lights that says off air, on air. Mmm. I guess it's really just on air. On air. It's either off or on. Yes. I want one of those. OK.

Jason Atwood: The one we get one. We'll look into that for you. Can we do that? Maybe. Make that happen. I'll tell you what I can make happen. Please. The agenda. Ah. All righty. We have a blog post of the week. talking about do and do.com and doing work on do.com. Doing it and doing it and doing it well. And some of the integration with Salesforce. And then right as we were podcasting last week, talking about all the woes of Google Drive, Google release, Google keep. So we'll talk about that. And then Ben Oh, your UI belong to the meme talking the I called it. And then Apple goes to a dual Is that out? I guess we'll talk about it. And then we'll talk about it. Yes. And then we'll talk about the crowd folks at Pick of the Week.

Jason Atwood: We're right now in the notes. It says Justin's best pick. And 31 picks in the all caps in all caps.

Justin Edelstein: In all caps. It says Justin's best pick.

Jason Atwood: So we're supposed to actually write your pick point. That's what you think.

Justin Edelstein: I was going to tell you know. I feel bad because I was going to tell you about this. I'm not even gonna tell you about it because I'm gonna wait till the show That's great. I think that's good. I like you're gonna download it. I'm gonna going to love, we're going to love it. All right, we'll see.

03:20 Jason Atwood: Doing Work with Do. Dot com. Posted by,, Posted by one of the many here at the Arkus factory. We churn out Salesforce work.

Justin Edelstein: And project managers and every other little widget that you want to produce.

Jason Atwood: So this one was really... talking about how the new integration with Salesforce and how you you know do.com you talked about it. I've talked about it last year probably around this time.

Justin Edelstein: It's like where I managed the project of moving into and purchasing a new apartment with someone else and collaborating with her the little lady on

Jason Atwood: I think this this blog, to really be so collaborative there for me. I use a very specialized program. I almost feel like some sort of I will not tell you crack dealer or something Like I have a problem like I use a honey focus And it's like so much more powerful than if I had to explain it to you

Justin Edelstein: And how they've now broken it into projects and deals, which I think I think the two objects that are supported in the in the at this point where it really just from the looks of it and from the description of the in the blog post it really just puts a little visual force section on a page that that to any of the projects that are in relation to that account or opportunity. So is it just...

06:24 Jason Atwood: So I just decided they thought, because I was thinking about Do and Desk and Work.com.

Justin Edelstein: I want to use them. them integrated. Yeah. And if I want to use them, I want, I don't want to have all this AppExchange package. Because to me, that's a very different animal than it being a core piece of the product. If it's an AppExchange product, AppExchange application has a very different, to me, standard of than the core does. open source here they are this is i'm integrating products it's kind of like the you know the social media for sales force integration that is always shown on the stage that looks really fancy and nice but it's this app exchange product that i'd rather that just be built into the core of the product as opposed to like social contacts which is or the product which isn't quite as useful.

Jason Atwood: Just side note, on the AppExchange, I went to something the other day, I wish there was a note somewhere like last update. I see this in the App Store, the Mac App Store or the iOS App Store. You can look when you're looking at an application a,, I on If people are keeping up with it, then you want to know. buyer beware or quicker beware. Because when you're looking at something, it's like, you know, it could have a couple reviews and maybe has a review from, you know, a couple months ago. Most things in the App Store have a couple hundred, you know, not couple, but like 10, 15 reviews unlike the, you know, or the App Store where there's could be thousands of views. So like you can't even look to reviews to see the recent reviews.

09:39 Jason Atwood: So it's just something I think the App Store should take... take notice of is that you should show, I'd not only like to see the last update, I'd kind of like to see a release set. Show me the last three or four times they pushed a new part of this package. Because that shows you are they keeping up with it? Are they putting in code? As we push our code out there and we update it pretty frequently, I mean every couple months at least. with a bug or a fix or a new feature, I'd kind of like that to be known. So like when you install the permissioner, you're going, oh, the ARK is kids, they stick up with this. I think they're updating it. Back to do.

Justin Edelstein: Back to do. Bringing this back to do. Yeah, I'm with. Give it a try. Why would I want to use it? I'm not. We'll see you next week Asking you I know you won't okay, because I know what you use for a cast magnet And there's no reason for you to do it I'm saying you the proverbial you the listeners the listeners are faithful faithful followers Okay, give it a shot go to the blog post Just tell us what you used Do For. I told you I used it once to move into an apartment, with someone else. If there was another project that I was collaborating on with someone else, I might use Do. I might use a Google Sheet. I don't know. Have to see. But Do allows for some nice things. It has a nice mobile app.

Justin Edelstein: Yep, and if you're definitely if you're there

Jason Atwood: There's not many places where you can assign You know a free place that you can assign tasks others that has sort of visibility and you know Task management a joint task management is not easy to find There's lots of task managers, but have joint test management So cool.

Justin Edelstein: Go to the blog and comment on it. I really want to know what people out there who use Do, what do you use it for?

Jason Atwood: Blog.arcasinc.com. Alright, next up, this was released right after and I will say Google, bad timing Google. And I know they probably don't have any say like But so last week we talked about two things one was Google Reader is being shuttered as of July 1st and then they had three outages of Google Drive during the week. That was annoying Annnnd was that annoying? So we as we as big Google Drive users were like, oh man, and we made the People are using it less and less, and we're like, well, look at that. You can't even, you know, keep up the thing that is the big product, but you're shutering on this other thing. Then they released Google Keep, which is an Evernote sort of competitor. I actually haven't used it, so full disclosure, but I've read a great review today, maybe a TechCrunch or something, and it really went Evernote versus Google Keep.

Jason Atwood: And really came out to say Evernote is much better in almost all aspects except for Google Keep integrates with Drive. So if you're in Drive and use Drive then this is nice because it kind of sits right in Drive. Is it like a folder or just like a little... I don't even know how it works with Drive but that integrates with it.

12:50 Justin Edelstein: So I have a few things on this I've thought about. this a little bit. Okay, so, as opposed to the rest, usually when I don't think about anything, okay, I'm flying by the seat of my pants. So, Google had a service like this. They had a Google notebook that they killed off. They killed off. Google notebook I used and it allowed you to do little web clippings and it allowed you, and I thought it was awesome, it was like, oh, I could do little web clippings and it's like my little notebook and I can have things stored in here and I can even. Public it was it was just like Evernote right before Evernote and Then that just disappeared so I've got a new take And dance that I'm taking about Google products don't use them.

Justin Edelstein: I'm not using any Google product outside of search that is not a part of the Google App Suite that an enterprise can pay for to use. Google Reader, Google Wave. Both part of the enterprise sweat,

Jason Atwood: Absolutely. No. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no. Like, yeah.

Justin Edelstein: No, it's part of it because you could single sign on to it and it was part of your account, but you weren't paying for like Google Reader or Google Wave. It just so happened that you can use the login to get to it. Like when I think of okay like when I think of the Google you're saying something that's not free Right, that's a difference because consumer things that they're coming like I would never use this the way I use Evernote For fear that all of a sudden all my notes would just disappear. I actually know that they would not I don't feel my nose is fair. I don't fear that Evernote's gonna

Jason Atwood: I just don't you don't feel that they have an open guard of business that everybody thought that could be spot by IBM at this Point I have more confidence in them to

Justin Edelstein: Stay around and keep my notes in tap than I do Google which is sad But I the truth I I totally agree.

Jason Atwood: I mean I have different but let's say a couple things But I don't think ever know it's gonna be around longer than Google I think Google will be around longer than ever know sure but what Google has done that has made us It's the confidence. Because they decide to kill off stuff. And there's actually an article on Tech Dirt talking about basically saying, do you trust Google anymore when it comes to these consumer-based kind of, I don't want to say fly-by-night, but kind of, you know, they're like nice things, but you could use them a lot.

Justin Edelstein: Until they tell me that Google Note, is that what it's called? Keep, sorry. In the title of the thing it says no, but until they say Google Keep is a part of the Google Apps suite the way that like Microsoft OneNote is part of the Microsoft productivity suite and integrates with Outlook and all that other stuff until they say this is part of the enterprise Thing that you're getting for that $50 I won't use it. Consumer or professional.

Jason Atwood: Well, I think you're not thinking through because even though things are part of the suite, that doesn't mean that they can't kill it off. So think about this. We use Google Docs, and who does mass Google Drive, right? Well, Drive, Docs, Gmail. We use Calendar. Right. But that's not to say. that dicks. That Google's not gonna, like, oh, did Google calendars gone tomorrow? Absolutely.

16:08 Justin Edelstein: See, I think it's too much a part of the suite that they sell. You can't sell a productivity suite that says, replace your exchange with Gmail,

Jason Atwood: But oh, by the way, it doesn't include a calendar. By the way, they used to sell it with Postini and with Postini, then they killed off Postini. But it doesn't include a calendar. Now I understand.

Justin Edelstein: So replace your exchange environment, but no calendar, sorry.

Jason Atwood: They used to Google Gmail. They just killed off the ability for Gmail to use Exchange. They used to be able to connect up to Google with Exchange, with the Exchange preferences. So basically they licensed the Exchange thing from Microsoft, and you could, using your iOS device, it was one of the ways, because it had real true push, because Exchange does real true. you. push and read receipt and all that. Well, they used to be able to, they used to knew it, but they killed off that feature. So there was something that the enterprise people might have been very relying on, that you can actually hook up through Exchange It's not the same thing.

Justin Edelstein: It's not. They didn't give all the same features in their own service.

Jason Atwood: I mean, there are different pieces of it that are, I mean, Google now has push. They have the same stuff, but that's like saying it's not because Exchange had its own set of APIs and parameters and things that it was going to use. And that if you were someone who is using that, the point is they killed it. They said, we're not going to support that anymore, because basically because they were licensing it from Microsoft, their competitor. So I agree. I think to me, this brings up one big thing that we can talk about, which is that trust the cloud, but have a backup plan. What's your backup plan if anything, anything we talk about decided to go bye bye? And then, you know, how much, I mean, I have a backup plan for Evernote.

Jason Atwood: I've actually, before I put all my stuff into E avernote, I looked at how to out of Evernote. And actually one of the reasons I don't put more into Evernote, like PDFs, because there's no easy way to get PDFs out. They're all stored in these little directories. So, I looked at the other day, I was thinking about all the stuff I'm buying on Kindle. So I researched how do you kill the DRM on Kindle. If Amazon decided to go away and decided to not do Kindle anymore, could I take all my Kindle books and rip out the DRM and throw them into just some old normal reader? The answer is yes, I could. So it's like, this is part of anything you have to, you know, any of the Apple stuff you have to think.

Jason Atwood: If they took it away... A is a replacement that can move and then is there a migration path? How could I you know move and we moved from Google wave to Google Drive or Docs

Justin Edelstein: At the time done this in the consumer world? with you know the mobile me stuff with the galleries and and the the Web documents the web pages that come over was yeah the I web I web yeah, but also the documents for a short time before iCloud like they were experimenting yeah basically building this stuff out I just don't like Google experimenting with consumer products and then until they make it to this is part of the enterprise offering

19:30 Jason Atwood: I hear you I don't trust them I don't know if they actually say that that's the thing like what there's no there's no move Because what they do is they just just make it a thing you can turn on inside of your enterprise and you turn it on. Wave was one of those things. Like sites is one of those. Sites, perfect example. They could kill off sites. And they probably will. It's a blogger, haven't they killed that off? Well, a blogger was owned by someone else. But they could turn off sites tomorrow, right? Think about it. Sites is something that's kind of fringe. I've been playing around with it a lot. It's okay, but it doesn't look like it's as up to date as docs is. It's like some of the editing stuff's a little bit strange.

Jason Atwood: Change. I can see usership going. I mean, there are so many places like Squarespace that you can go build a website in five seconds. Much, much better.

Justin Edelstein: Yeah, much more. You know what sites does have? I think sites is a lot for like an intranet.

Jason Atwood: Well, it's, but it has the ability. documentation and wiki type stuff. But it has the ability to make it external and host it as a real website, so.

Justin Edelstein: But that's one of those things I could totally K.

Jason Atwood: Yeah, you get a suite, but that suite is a moving target. What are the line items? What do I get? It doesn't give you line items. That's the thing. Log into the control panel and there's literally a list of all their products. Yeah, see, it's not fun. They killed off, oh, they killed off Google, they killed off Google sites for... Google video for business used to be one part of it so there's a business product thing right they killed that off I think it's it's completely possible you just have to be careful of you know again this is part of the podcast I would say be careful where you go down and you should really investigate I'll say forever note I used to use another note I forgot what I used before, I don't know.

Jason Atwood: Oh,

Justin Edelstein: I forgot what it was. But it was something that sunk and all that. You'd have to say that, sorry to cut you off while you're thinking of your product, but you'd have to say Microsoft probably does a better job of this stuff. When you're thinking of it from a, like, sort of like a prosumer perspective, like, you wouldn't. Like I think of OneNote as the parallel to this. And you wouldn't see necessarily Microsoft killing off OneNote because they'll just let something live forever.

Jason Atwood: Well, and it's true. They sell into enterprises more and that's one of their deals with the enterprise. You need to support XP for the next 10 years and they do. They support stuff out, I mean Microsoft, they support stuff out very, very long. But also, the side argument to that is, maybe that's what keeps them innovating. They're not an innovative company. We talked about that last week. So, you know, it's a little bit of pros and cons. Like, I love that Google's innovating and always putting stuff in. To me, this is not about keep and Evernote. This is about timing. Because if you'd done this four weeks later, when everybody just forgotten that you just killed off reader or. Or three weeks earlier.

22:57 Justin Edelstein: Or three weeks earlier. Well R-I-V-E-S. I've seen the pictures, I've seen the reviews. I don't think it's hot mail. Yeah, it's just hot mail. It's re-bend hot mail. Like I went to sign up for an at outlook dot com and it's just a website. I was surprised by that. Oh, you can't get at outlook dot com. That's what I thought it was going to be. Yeah. Yeah.

Jason Atwood: I'll tell you, the hidden secret of email, one of the most reliable email services I've ever used, if you don't, I mean, I have a great website too, but I never use it, is Rackspace's email service. It is the most reliable thing. I never even think about it, and I have like four accounts on it. Gmail, occasionally you have an issue, but I never have Rackspace's email. All right, so I agree. I'm not using Keep. I'm, oh, I was gonna say about Evernote. I have lots of notes. I mean, I have like 500 notes that I've had with me for years. I have stuff I wrote 10 years ago in notes, right? And so when I moved from whatever it was to Evernote, I literally did a parallel thing with Evernote and had it for a good year.

Jason Atwood: And then I used it for another two years and then I paid them and I said alright now you know I have ever known premium whatever because I was like I could you know they proved over track record they were you know that they were serious they were stick around they weren't just some company ready to be bought. I'm alright next up is an article on tech crunch be a tech crunch so I think this came from the Boston the Boston his Boston tour of the new message sales force message. customer focus and he's saying that customer company that chatter This is like you know Chatter will become the primary interface for sales sales force.

Justin Edelstein: Yeah, which a I predicted B good for you be Really concerned about me too I have a hard time getting people to get chatter now and if chatter chatter is gonna be the place where people go and input fields and if that's the primary interface for entering data it doesn't seem like it is the right place to be entering data I don't know if they've shown screenshots or what they're even talking about but I mean it doesn't seem like even the right way to consume a massive amount of data. That to me is still a report and a form is still a form it's not a feed item like it just doesn't it doesn't jive I'm very jive I have to see it I have to see what he means.

Jason Atwood: I think and again it's a quick little quote and it's a little bit about it but I think what they're saying is that they're going to be putting more and more functionality into chatter and that you're going to be doing more and more I don the it's ever going to stop you entering in a first name from a contact but I think you're going to be doing more and more of your work inside a chatter and again like chatter tasks going up there like polls like files when you think about the things that used to be sort of only in down below in the related list how those are kind of bub the chattering up into chatter. So just take that and extrapolate. What if other related objects were going to be chattering? What happens if you can control how they looked in chatter a little bit better?

26:18 Jason Atwood: What happens if you could come, if you added a, well, I mean, tasks already exist, but you added a contact to an account. and that contact details chattered on the account chatter. So I mean, and then maybe you could right click change, you know, follow right from when the chatter feed, end or change a little piece of that, oh the name is wrong, click click change, hit save. I didn't have to get to the contact to be able to do that. I just did that within the chatter stream. Think that way, oh okay, I get it. It's just another way to see end or view end or change data. then it kind of gets,

Justin Edelstein: I get it more. That's not exactly what he said though. Well, it kind of did. What you're saying, well, what you're saying is a slight augmentation in the way that you can interact with data. And I think his quote was that it's going to be the primary user interface.

Jason Atwood: For CRM. That He's doing visionary statements. I'm doing what reality could look like. Visionary statement. Everybody will fly around in cars that can, that, you know, flying cars.

Justin Edelstein: Reality, people have hoverboards. I'm waiting because, you know, 2015 is right around. around the corner and I want my flying DeLorean. Yeah, it ain't gonna happen.

Jason Atwood: I think I've now mentioned the DeLorean twice in the last four weeks. You have a thing with DeLoreans. Oh, I love me some Back to the Future. Well, anyway, we'll see where this comes.

Justin Edelstein: This is vision. We'll see where this goes. We'll see what happens a year from now or a year and a half from now. Look at the worst... 2014.

Jason Atwood: Again, look at what he's looking at from a man who's talking about how the social enterprises and applications and web 3.0, whatever you want to call them, are taking over the world. Chat, Twitter and Facebook and Foursquare and Pinterest are the new way that people talk and deal with data now. They deal in streams, they deal in posts, they deal in comments, they deal in hashtags. What he's saying is, just like 10 years ago when everybody was moving from a mainframe web thing, I mean a mainframe screen to a website and things were tabs and things of search, which was 10 years ago. Now things moving towards the new interface. A new interface for our consumer stuff is feeds and following and changing.

Justin Edelstein: But a lot of that stuff is very loose and unstructured.

Jason Atwood: Totally. It's all unstructured. And Salesforce is absolutely structured. So it's a weird mix. It's a weird mix. Very weird. CRM data is very structured data. I challenge you, Benny. I challenge you to make it right. I challenge him too. Do it right.

29:28 Justin Edelstein: All right. You know what I challenge you? Yeah. With the two-factor authentication.

Jason Atwood: So yeah. So this also came out after after we talked. You are hereby challenged. Well, after Evernote gets hacked. it. Google does two-factor two-factor application for their Apple ID system. They're going to go change something, go into your account, change your credit card or something. You can sign up for and be part of a two-factor. Meaning it's going to say username and password, which is the first factor. And the second factor is going to be something else that knows about you. So it might be sending something to your phone, it might be sending something to the iPad. It might be sending something to your email address. Very much like what we've talked about a lot. I think this is great. It's about time. I mean, Apple is a consumer company and has to deal with millions and millions of people as opposed to Dropbox that has much less.

Jason Atwood: So you have to sign up online and I think, so a couple things about how they did it, you go in, you go through this whole process to tell you I For Salesforce, that's, you know, password. It can be a really bad password.B and, Very cool. All right. I know you hit by the way he for the last so you know you know I can't hear him because he's Eighty one looking at me because.

Justin Edelstein: He's not even looking at me for the last 10 minutes I sent you a meeting invite last week and it included go-to meeting details for you to join and you shot back to me saying hey from now on can you do what I do yep and include the mobile dial-in number yep You know it includes like commas and gonna be so all sorts of fun stuff set with your pic Why am I gonna be do you already have it They're very good on the social marketing. So it just showed up in my Facebook feed. Like it knew I was thinking about this. And I was like, oh, let me try it.

33:40 Jason Atwood: Okay, hopefully it didn't start down. Well, no, I think it's, you know, whatever. Yeah, all right.

Justin Edelstein: So the app's called Mobile Day. Damn you, you know this app? I've had it for two weeks. Isn't it great? Isn't Mo, so Mobile me explaining it. All right, let me explain it. Oh, I love it.

Jason Atwood: It's so great. Well, you didn't now adjust in anything. You didn't pick it. I literally didn't pick it because, I. Go ahead. Go ahead. Why didn it. Why didn't you pick it? I'll explain.

Justin Edelstein: Well, I will not. Because I tested it thoroughly. Well, I've tested it and I love it. Explain it. So, it reads from your calendar. Yep. You can sign in using like your Twitter or whatever. It just picks up your Apple calendar pretty, all your Apple calendars. Well, I mean, you need to register. So, you need to... No. in using Twitter or Facebook as your authentication whatever. It then goes through your calendar, it needs, you know, you need to provide access to things like calendars, contacts, location, things of that nature. And then it picks out from within your calendar the location and the details of where your meeting is, right? Yep. So if it's a dial-in, it... and and you can click a little icon and it'll launch you into either the go to or the WebEx.

Justin Edelstein: If you have those apps on your phone as well, which is pretty neat. And it Rves you little pop-up reminders like, hey, you're the host of a meeting that's coming up, or you're invited to a couple meetings or whatever. Yep. And pops it up for you. So I've been using it for the last, I don't know, week or so, ever since you sent me that email. And I have found that it works pretty brilliantly. Like if there's a phone number... You know how to dial into it if there's a conference it understands to open up the Webex or the Go to meeting app on my phone and get me into it or I can just dial into it without the go to meeting link or whatever I Find that this thing works really well.

Justin Edelstein: What's your what's your issue with it? Because you're looking at it. Yeah why it's terrible No, I literally,

Jason Atwood: I checked it out. So this came about from my own insanity. Actually from years ago, I remember a Blackberry user telling me, this is like five years ago when I used to work at that big company, they used to say, well, one of the things, because we're talking about iPhone and Blackberry, and she said, well, I only use... I like blackberry because it allows you to dial into from your calendar allows you to dial into right things it understands and if you saw a lot of a lot of people put in their calendar invite Yes, a link or they put it in the location and they put it with the hashtag the comma comma whatever so I actually challenged someone here at work with the challenge with the challenge weeks ago. I said, figure out how this works.

36:49 Jason Atwood: I don't have the time, but figure out how it works. Figure out how to put it on the phone. So on my iPhone, which is the only place I really need it, that I can dial me into the meeting. Like, figure that out. He came back like three days later and said, can't be done. That's not the right answer. Yeah, I know. So then I said, okay, can't be, yes. Then I went to look for these apps and I tried like four of them. They're all the one that you tried. Try mobile day. I mean, I literally was just moving them into other folders. Tell me why you don't like mobile day. Because I tried it with a bunch of different the ones and it was hit or miss. So on like five different calls.

Jason Atwood: It maybe got three of them. So yes, it gets's one that's a go-to, that's the traditional go-to thing. But if someone had written it in and hadn't written it correctly, it didn't work. Like if they'd put it all over, or if there was a couple scenarios where it didn't get it. And so at that point I thought,

Justin Edelstein: Well, all right. Well, isn't that better than, isn't that, like you're at the behest of the person who's putting it in? Absolutely. So if you're not me... But we put in 90% of our own counter events. so then if we just put in our own... But this works great for anything that I would ever put in. It works fabulously. Again,

Jason Atwood: Here's the other thing. So when I went to look at it, you then... You have to go to that. Where I'm usually at is my calendar event pops open, my actual Apple calendar. This thing actually pops open. But now that's another thing that's popping open on my thing to tell me something's going on. And then the calendar when I swipe in and I just want the link right there. So anyway, I then went and investigated it, figured out how to do it on the iPhone and then built it into my text expander. So it's just built in. It's like, I just hit go, I put GTM. It fills out go to meeting and the mobile link and it the mobile link and It the mobile link and it works like a charm on the iPhone so I gave up these two apps because I was like I don't need to I-I like mobile day for those who are lazy and don't

Justin Edelstein: Want to do this thing It's out there. It works really really well. I have yet to have a problem with it. That's anything? We'll see. And again I've yet to have a problem with it like going into the web portion like like join the go to meeting but join the link would work doesn't it's the normal link work to go to has but, but it has the that's the point it's all in the one place it has it in there it knows the calendar

Jason Atwood: Event the counter event has the link to get into go. to meeting too. Yeah but they count what I'm saying is this is a one if I want to dial into it or

Justin Edelstein: Do I want to go into the into the go to me I have the choice like I don't

Jason Atwood: It understands, I can click the phone icon or I can click the web icon maybe I'll go back and take a look and do something about it that didn't work or didn't like the way it

Justin Edelstein: Did it and that's why I went back to investigate I don't know, any meeting that anyone has set up for me since that I've tried to use it for, it's worked just fine alright,

Jason Atwood: Well I'm actually gonna do something that We've been complaining about for a while. Oh, by the way, there's Mobile Day and there's another one if you wanna check out the other one. No, no, there is no other one.

39:53 Justin Edelstein: There's Mobile Day. Dial Meeting. Dial Meeting's another one and there's one other too. There's something that is a companion to it that for your iPad, that if you install it, which is also free but uses Google Voice. Peace. Where you can turn the iPad you can use it on the iPad to dial in to meetings as well So all right off your pick onto my pick so get to it cuz you were like I jagged my pick Yeah, well your pick was an old pick. It wasn't old at all. Nobody. I don't really didn't think it. Oh I'm sure you didn't pick your pick either You know why? Because it's no good.

Jason Atwood: Yeah? No good. My pick's gonna be better than your pick. I don't want to be why I already don't like it. What have we talked about before? What have we talked about the one thing that we want? He's all mad now. He's so mad. He's so mad. So mad. I I wrote in there the best pick ever. Every three weeks. I know it's competitors. So what have we talked about forever?

Justin Edelstein: The... I don't know. Are you gonna... answer your own question? Yes.

Jason Atwood: So we go to, I think I've talked about this on the podcast, like having the different cards, the different loyalty cards. Oh yeah. So I was at a place the other day, I had brought up my loyalty card and I was like oh here we go, nope. And I was like, chopped. Nope. And I brought, that's the one that we talked about, that chalk that we talked about. So I was at this other place and I brought my little card, it's like 15% off or whatever if you get, you know, 15 stamps or whatever. And I brought it out and they're like, oh yeah, you're okay, you're done with those. And they said, but when you're done with those, you should try the app. I I'm like, oh, I say it's the own specific app.

Jason Atwood: They're like no it's called.

Justin Edelstein: There's a few of these by the way It's like a network. They're like they're like fighting.

Jason Atwood: I want them all to battle or by them Yeah, they all need to join forces, but even if but even if there's seven of them fine It's all they all fit is all they all my phone. They're on my wallet. So anyway, it's called It's called app. What's this one called? Ask her app card Yeah, and so it has a local place that we go to or you might go to buy stuff So, if you go in, you sign up with your mobile number, you give them your mobile number, they tump it into the computer, it then sends you a text to download the app, then you register with it, and then it gives you the points. So it keeps track of how many things you have, and you can get- This is on your iPhone.

Jason Atwood: This is on my iPhone, so it's an app, an iPhone app. But there's, and they're starting to get more and more, you know,

Justin Edelstein: Again, trying to get more and more-.. By the way mobile is available for the iPhone and the Android Oh good good.

Jason Atwood: Anyway, you're still trying. App card a loyalty program thing again has to be the ones that you use But at least I know now a lot of these now But not having in my wallet and moving to my iPhone is like the best. Yeah, there was seven I put them a little folder. Yeah, they're probably are I think there's one called like buddy something buddy cards or whatever anyway If you're a Dwayne Reed, if you're all these other ones, you're chopped, get off the cards and move to these things because I don't want to carry around 17 cards anymore. So it's called App Card, it's free. I haven't actually redeemed one yet, but I haven't had two things from buying the other day. Pretty cool. And I could totally see this, like, you know if I were one of these companies, if I were Groupon, I would buy one of these things because Groupon, paired with that, Right, so you get the loyalty card stuff and the Discounts.

43:27 Jason Atwood: Boom. Boom goes the dynamite. Alright So App card find it wherever you want APP card. That's it for this week. CloudFocus Weekly Slow is Justin in the most amazing pick ever? It's a good pick. At JustEttle. Steen?

Justin Edelstein: I'm at Jason Atwood at Arca Sync. Lots more Twitter followers than he used to be. Is that what you're going to go to? I promise. Really, is that what you're going to go to? That's where I start and finish.

Jason Atwood: Anyway, we'll be back in a couple weeks. Follow us on Facebook, on Twitter. A couple weeks. Or next week. What's wrong with next week? Is there one week that we- no I guess we'll do it. We can do a remote one. Why next week? We're not next week, but in three weeks we're gonna be away. For the whole week? Yeah. Yeah.

Justin Edelstein: Maybe we'll skip it. No, we'll bring the- Maybe we'll do it from where we're gonna be. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It'll be interesting. That'll be fun.

Jason Atwood: Like live from- Nah, yeah, live from, but then we gotta bring the frickin' snowballs.

Justin Edelstein: Maybe we'll do it without the snowball. Maybe. Alright.

Jason Atwood: In the meantime- Go to iTunes, subscribe, follow us everywhere. Go to the Dreamforce portal. By the way, there's Dreamforce news in the Dreamforce portal. The pre-registration price is up. Oh. And you have to sign up for it. You can register. Go get it. $7.99. $7.99 for the pre-registration. Pre-registration.

Justin Edelstein: So by the way. Good thing I'll be speaking again. Yeah,

Jason Atwood: Good thing. I will have three free passes, but. Yeah, well we sponsor so we get free passes. Good thing I signed up to speak a few times. I did too. I did too. And then there's the whole MVP thing. I signed you up to speak. I put in a couple other ones too. You should go check it out. I put in one that I think you might be interested in. I think it was a good one. It came from our podcast to support. I thought it would be a good one. Anyway, that's enough. We'll see you in a couple weeks or next week. How about just next week? That's it. Jason and Justin saying, enjoy those cloudy days.

Justin Edelstein: What's your favorite part of the show? Let us know in the comments section down below. I'll see you guys next time. See you. You