MVP Summit - Episode #150 of CloudFocus Weekly

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00:10 Jason Atwood: This is the 150th episode of CloudFocus Weekly for the last week, last couple days of August, 2013. This episode is titled MVP Summit. CloudFocus Weekly is brought to you by The Permissioner by Arkus, mass assign and revoke Salesforce permission sets. It truly is permission sets made easy, available for free on the AppExchange or go to thepermissioner.com. I'm your host, Jason Atwood, and joining me for the co-host, 150th time, a little change up to the front entry, tree is Justin. Justin,

Justin Edelstein: How are you doing today? You put on your broadcaster hat and you were like voice inflectioning and reading while not sounding like you're reading. That was very impressive. I am really, really good. It's almost like I've done like 400 podcasts. Almost. This is 150 though. This is 150. Close to 400 or not even half. Well,

Jason Atwood: If this were only the only one podcast. So here we are. Hey, shush now. Okay. No Easter eggs on this podcast. No Easter eggs. No green Easter eggs. Alrighty, so a little change up. Well, we're in a hotel. We certainly are. Or I guess recording a podcast that we broadcast. So we are in the San Francisco. The beautiful Omni Hotel. At the beautiful Omni Hotel. Shout out to Omni Hotel. We love it. Give us free rooms or something. that goes through nights. Come on now. Don't you shine my shoes. So this is, we are here because we have just attended the MVP Summit. So we have an agenda that includes the MVP Summit, which we'll talk about in a second. We'll also talk about the blog post of the week and my iPad will make noises.

Jason Atwood: And then we'll talk with the MVP Summit. We'll talk a little bit about Dreamforce, including a special session that I'm sure almost everybody listening to this podcast might actually kind of want to hear about. and and then we'll kind of wrap it up and talk about next week and make our cloud folks at picks of the week right so let's start it off with the blog

Justin Edelstein: Post of some week yeah there's a blog post written it's really been three weeks since we've had a post since we've podcast yeah because we did our did a pre-recorded one right the TV one I want some feedback on that what people think so you got a lot of feedback from my wife yeah that doesn't count she I texted you like 90 times. 100 times in a row, like I can't believe this was number seven. No, yes, it was number seven. Relax. I can't believe this isn't on your top 10. It's not on my top 10.

Jason Atwood: That's it. That was very relaxed. So we have this that was 149 streaming TV showdown where we actually did a 10 to 1 top 10 TV shows of all time, our faves, kind of battle it out. That you can stream. Yeah, you can stream. Again, kind of, well, kind of, no, because, again, we basically said almost everything is streamable now because you can buy almost everything on Apple or Hulu or whatever. So anyway, but let's get to the blog post this week, which is called Salesforce Foundation, Power of Us Hub. Yeah. So it's about the, The Pub Hub. The Pub Hub.

03:22 Justin Edelstein: So why don't you tell us a little about the Power of Us Hub? Sure. So the Power of Us Hub is the, so for all of those who are familiar with the success community that has recently rolled out where ideas and answers and chatter and known issues have all been rolled into this nice community, the Power of Us Hub is the same idea but for strictly not-for-profits. So if you're a a foundation customer, you can get into the Power of Us hub just by going to the website, the Power of Us website. It's powerofus.salesforcefoundation.org. And then you can log in using your regular Salesforce login and do virtually the same things. There's questions and answers, so you can ask questions. There's partners in there, so partners that are foundation partners like ourselves we're in there answering questions there's careful what you say about us right be very careful there's there's chatter so different groups different user groups across the country in there so it's a great way to think about like if you're specifically an out-for-profit and you don't really get or don't really find the regular success community like geared towards you enough because it's all about like talk to me about you know account hierarchy or opportunities or this that or the other marketing cloud and this is really geared towards you who are using you know tell me the best mass email tool to reach my constituency or you know how should I handle in-kind donations or how do others do that how do I how who's the best online donation vendor.

Justin Edelstein: That's the kind of questions and conversations that are happening within this success community. So I have a question. Go ahead, you're gonna ask a question. Yeah, so I was gonna ask a question.

Jason Atwood: So why break it out?

Justin Edelstein: So as you just sit there and discuss this, and as you tell me. You're asking the wrong person. Because I don't really feel like it should necessarily be broken out. I feel like it should just be groups inside of the, like you're sort of breaking the customer base apart. So I'm without being too harsh, I feel like this should be just in the success community. Because, you know, when you go to the keynote, there's not the big Salesforce keynote with nonprofit keynote off to the side, right? I mean, not yet. Well, you know, Barber Benioff still does like to say for all those NGOs and nonprofit organizations out there stand up so we can give you a hand right that day is not gonna go away cuz he likes that moment right I feel like this is it's very niche it's very specific without all the noise of the rest of the community going on around it but I still feel like that could have probably been accomplished within the success community might have been a scope thing like hey we need to get the success community out there and the power of us hub was like we need these specific things not sure what they are but we can't get them in so hey it's it's there it's there for re as a resource for those of you who are nonprofit partners or customers who are listening you can go log in at the power bus hub so do I can I if I'm a non non-profit can I log into the power of

07:03 Jason Atwood: Us no you can't so how is that controlled by you yeah

Justin Edelstein: They know who you are okay yeah I mean we We actually were partners and when I first tried to log in it actually didn't let me in so I had to contact the foundation and say hey you've kind of left me off the list and they said, oh, yep, you're right. Who else from your organization, from Arkus, should be allowed to log into the Power of Us hub? Yeah,

Jason Atwood: I mean, I love the idea, and I get it kind of from a sense of, you know, I get it from being, you know, wanting to have two places that are, you know, it's 100,000 people or something, and what's in the success? It's like 800,000. 800,000. So I can probably closer to nine at this point. I can get how this could be then very specific. I think you could do branding towards them. So I both get it from that point. It clearly, to me, actually is a limitation of communities. This is a Salesforce, community, another one. And so it just shows that, wow, what hopefully on the roadmap, R&B, they could do some splitting out of communities and say, these guys are in this community. When they come in, they see what it is.

Jason Atwood: I know, but it's separate profiles. I'm not the same profile as I am in the other one. They're not actually the same org, let's say. It's not the same community. Well, they are. They're the same back-end org. Oh, no, no, no. Because when I log in with my profile, it's a totally different profile. I can put different things on it.

Justin Edelstein: Yeah, but you're not getting it. You're single-signing into a different community.

Jason Atwood: Right. That's what I'm saying. It's a different community. As opposed to the same community that then could split off sort of...

Justin Edelstein: On the back-end, it's the same Salesforce mothership org. I don't think so. Then why is my profile different? Because you're logging into a different community from a different login page.

Jason Atwood: And if I'm using the same username and password, why am I not carrying across my profile? Because it's a different community, but my same username and password, don't tell me that's not confusing. I'm logging into Facebook with the same username and password, but you're using a different profile.

Justin Edelstein: Our use case is on the edge. Because in reality, you're either one or the other, and you're gonna decide to use one or the other. I mean, I feel like the nonprofit people are gonna be going in here, and folks who are not not-for-profit are gonna be going in there but they can still go into the other. That's the problem because now the answers

Jason Atwood: Or the true answers, the big answers, the one that you know Steve is answering every single one of them, that's in the other one. So if I have, I wanna vote an idea, I'm going over there, I don't know, that, again, I'm sure it was a timing and had be done. I know they were, I think they were done by different teams, really. Yeah,

Justin Edelstein: I totally feel like it was a timing thing.

10:04 Jason Atwood: Well, okay, so speaking of a timing thing, we're not at the right time. We're like, we are all messed up. We're off, we're off.

Justin Edelstein: This is California time, I'm way off.

Jason Atwood: So let's talk about a little bit about as you unplug my computer. Yeah, we should please please don't unplug my mic as we talk Let's talk a little bit about the MVP summit that we just attended for two days I want to start off by talking a little bit about the MMC program and the MVP a program The reason I'm gonna do that is because I can't really talk about what we saw and heard about that's how cool it was Yeah, but so let's talk about the MVP program So we've talked about this before and I don't want to talk about, you know, us being in it. That's sort of not not a big deal, but sort of the what this well to you maybe but what this is well to you too Yeah, I like it But I'm saying I want to talk about it what it is from a big picture because for everybody who's not an MVP What is it for you would explain to someone could we talk about this label once a year if you'd explain someone who has no idea?

Jason Atwood: They know Salesforce and they're a user or an admin.

Justin Edelstein: What's the MVP program? Tell me about it Why do you do this to me? You asked me to do things and then you're going to say, well, no, actually, it's this. That's right. Fine. So the MVP community is a tight knit community of Salesforce evangelists that that evangelize the product on multiple social channels. Whether they're podcasters, bloggers, heavy Twitter users, heavy answers users, people who submit tons of ideas or vote on a lot of ideas or help prune the ideas community by merging things. Answer is a big one, right? Whether they're like a stack exchange person or heavy on the developer boards. When I have a question about a formula I can't get to compile, then submitting a case to Salesforce. Steve Mo is an MVP. For that reason, he answers every question that is put on the answers board.

Justin Edelstein: So, the MVP is this tight-knit group of, a I don't know how many at this point, I'd say somewhere between 100 and 150 people who've been selected over the last two and a half years or so that the program has been around. I think it started with like 10 to 15 and has grown since then and We get to collaborate and communicate in things that we really, really care about. And who's it run by? It is run by Erica Cool. She started it. And since then, has had Matt Brown, who was a former MVP and then went to go work at Salesforce to help run the MVP program. So it's Erica and Matt are the two key folks that run the community or the MVP community, Erica started it. And can you, if you're a MVP, I MVP forever.

13:48 Justin Edelstein: No, you have to be nominated to be an MVP nominations are actually open right now. So if you Google, I don't know the exact URL, but if you Google like Salesforce MVP nomination, you'll find the form, you can nominate someone who you feel anyone can nominate anyone, I guess you can nominate yourself, you really feel like it. And if you feel like there's someone out there who is, you know, awesome in the community always helping you out on Twitter or the ideas or wherever you can nominate them, they go into a flow and Eric and Matt weed them out and then we actually as MVPs kind of get to have a little say in that too and if you're already an MVP you're in there I was spring 11 was my first one, then spring 12 I was re-brought in, and then spring 13 I was also re-brought in.

Justin Edelstein: So I'm going on in the third year and I think you were spring 12. Right. So you're going on your second year. Right.

Jason Atwood: Although I feel like, so I don't, I don't, did the MDPs not, for the people who are coming back, do they get, do they vote on people coming back? I don't think they do.

Justin Edelstein: I don't know because the last, I can't remember. I feel like no. I feel like that's an Erica and Matt's discretion, right? So they look at it and they say hey these people but I'm not sure on

Jason Atwood: That So so that's sort of the program I mean, I was kind of playing a little dumb by asking some of the questions But just so you could talk about it again really fascinating program It's sort of I mean, it's definitely a marketing if I was if I was sales force, whatever and I'm putting in a bucket It's a marketing program because I am marketing to these people who are basically doing marketing for me again, there's some bias frontline support And I'm in somebraska recognizing them and giving them a, you know, R giving back to them to say, Hey, listen, you're special or whatever. And so this summit, which was a something that was talked, talked about two years ago, or maybe a year and a half.

Justin Edelstein: At least and I feel like someone said this would be a great idea and maybe it was Erika or Matt said like yeah and then it was like oh now it's on like and it was like pestering almost so we came out here to

Jason Atwood: San Francisco to Salesforce headquarters it was held in the Omni thank you Omni and basically it was a two-day thing because I had like sort of dinners or little mini events on Friday, but then basically all day. Yeah, but those were community meetups.

Justin Edelstein: Okay. Those were not officially sanctioned. It was a one-day event. So it was one day from basically 7 a.m. Yeah, 7 a.m.

Jason Atwood: Till 10 p.m. Yeah, so it was full-on. Yeah. And I will say now that I can't, because it was a wide mix of, I mean, it kind of was like a little bit of dream force, meaning like they were presenting stuff. It was a little bit of road mapping, like here's stuff that you're not gonna talk about, can't talk about R and a little bit of hey we want to hear from you, talk to us about what you're doing. So we're under severe NDA.

17:15 Justin Edelstein: As MVPs the first thing if you're going to be an MVP when they send you the packet the first thing you have to do is sign because you're under NDA for a lot of the stuff that goes on inside the inside the private chatter groups you're under NDA for some of the presentations that you get from the product managers, product managers reach, reach out to you specifically, sometimes for feedback on roadmap type of products. So a lot of the things that were presented to us yesterday, we can't really talk about. Right. It's one of those things. Well, the first rule of the MDP is there is no MDP. Yeah. So sorry about that. I mean, we saw, we can say this, we saw some really cool stuff. Yeah. That is very exciting coming down the line in the future.

Justin Edelstein: Want to go over what happened.

Jason Atwood: So it was an all day event of meetings or sort of of presentation in a big ballroom here with I guess like 70, 80 people where Salesforce product managers and area expertise and sort of groups sometimes that came in in waves came in and we're sort of presenting something or talking about a subject matter that we the MVPs had talked and said we want them to talk about. So either we want to talk about product roadmap, we want to talk about support, we wanna talk about what's going on with this, or we just wanna have an open jam session. There were pictures taken, there was all sorts of fun stuff like that. We ended up having a really great dinner last night. It was kicked off by Parker Harris.

Justin Edelstein: Who was there the whole time. He hung the whole time except for when he. Well, when they were doing the earnings announcement I think he popped out and popped back in. But Parker Harris was there the whole time to his credit, kinda emceed the event a little bit. credit to Matt Brown who also was like a taskmaster getting the time I mean he just hit the timing perfectly there was a jam-packed day and he made every he made every effort to make sure that everything that was scheduled got in on time it was fantastic it was like two minutes yep it was like last question that's it because everyone in the room is as you would think as an MVP is very like opinionated we'll give their opinion yes we'll get on a microphone and talk and ask Parker a tough question, like that kind of stuff.

Jason Atwood: That's the thing, it's a group of very vocal, outwardly, you know, these are people who are out in the community talking anyway. Again, they're usually doing it through social networks. I don't know of any of that. I mean, I guess the user group members and user group runners are there, too. That's right. So anyway, fascinating. I would just say, so one thing, first of all, great program. Really, I'd be interested to hear if other companies do this, because I've been involved in millions millions of other companies. And I've never, not millions, but whatever. I've never seen anything quite like this. So it's very unique. It's a very, you know, interesting kind of, you know, symbiotic relationship between Salesforce, this company that is a for-profit, you know, company to make money and profits and product and services, and this group of people who are all the customers of them.

20:19 Jason Atwood: So we, so I pay, right? I pay Salesforce for my licenses. help implement Salesforce. There's a lot of partners. It's like 40% partners., you, yeah, lots of partners.

Justin Edelstein: Well, because we're also, as partners, we're out there a lot, and we're with a lot of different use cases. Right. So we have a lot of things to say about all those different uses. So give me your favorite moment of yesterday that you can talk about. My favorite moment, and I think every time I see this guy, it will be my favorite moment. Oh yeah. It's Peter Coffey. Peter Coffey is a fantastic, fantastic speaker, so smart so sharp so funny and just just hits it out of the park every time I've now seen him speak a few times we sat with him at lunch and got to talk to him you know at one of the tables at lunch he's just brilliant like the guy you can tell like wow this guy's really churning his wheels are turning pretty

Jason Atwood: Executives about, like when we go in front of big company acts that wants to buy Salesforce they bring in type of presentation about Salesforce. Yeah, and you've been started off, you

Justin Edelstein: Know, like, what do I talk to the people who know too much? You're not people I talk to on a normal basis. So a little different stuff. I and now that was a different talk than I've seen him give, but yeah, it was very nice.

Jason Atwood: So my favorite part really was the, was really just meeting up with the product managers, I I absolutely enjoy, and I'm hoping they enjoy too, but I absolutely enjoy talking to product managers. There's pain on their face.

Justin Edelstein: They say they love it. But they're like, oh my God, Jason, you just killed me.

Jason Atwood: It's the stuff that we deal with in both love and hate. I think they're more asking for it they get a lot of love so they tell us the stuff that you want to do and again they're kind of showing us road map stuff and then they're talking stuff that they're not going to do and then so for a couple of them and I'm not getting the names whenever we got to talk about some of our favorite topics right that we talk about our podcast and talk to the people who are going changing it, if they are going to change it. So that to me is just awesome. And again, it's like to talk to people who are... my second favorite part was really talking to people who are listeners and who like the podcast, like the reverse role.

Jason Atwood: And to them telling them what they should change, that I'm excited to talk to people who listen to our podcasts and tell me what they like and what they want to change or hey they like this. I was doing very That's a pretty big deal. I will say I feel it's a little bit of a it was a little bit of a thing No take take the biggest people in the community who are the most vocal of all your customers Stick them in a room and pry them with alcohol while you're doing earnings the There was no

24:08 Justin Edelstein: Alcohol while they were doing earnings first of all.

Jason Atwood: I know I'm just kidding. You're just you're messing around. so speaking of MVPs and yeah, of course We are going to you put in a session I did. A community session. And it got accepted. For Dreamforce, about Salesforce podcast.

Justin Edelstein: Which means I keep my streak Goliath. Speaking of Dreamforce, seven years in a row now? Camp, you didn't speak the first year, did you? Why don't we give them the high-level topic of what it, the topic of what it's called. Sure. So it's called Salesforce Podcasters. I just said that. You did not. I said it's called Salesforce Podcasters session. No you didn't. If you did I wasn't listening. I don't want to listen to you. So the original idea was that we would host along with some others that do in person to meet us and hear us talk to you live. Do not know anybody want to meet you. We did take a picture yesterday with a fan, so I'll throw that out. There won't mention her name for her sake, but she knows who she is.

Justin Edelstein: Now again, you've brought us down to about 10 people.

Jason Atwood: That's true.

Justin Edelstein: So, so give us some ideas like tweet at us, you could comment. fixed, which is now fixed, so I can say blog.arcasync.com fixed. So feel free to comment on it in the discussion below or tweet at either of us, you know our Twitter handles and Jason will mention them in the closing. If you have any ideas about what you think this session should include, and we'll take those into consideration certainly because at the moment it's maybe it'll be this, maybe it'll be that. But since it's community-led, I'm letting you guys, our community, help us understand what you want to hear about.

27:21 Jason Atwood: Do our work for us. Well, so, and I think, just think about this in t urns of, are you more interested in hearing sort of, I guess that's our thing, is it more that you're already a listener, and you kind of want to know more about the inner, the inner pieces of it, or are you more, and I guess if you're not a listener, it's gonna be hard to, then you're not leaving us feedback. Or think about, I guess if you put yourself in the shoes of someone who just reads this session who's not a listener, are you coming to find about more resources and like, oh, I want to learn about the resources, the more podcasting resources or blog or whatever. Or are you sort of interested or thinking about the person who might be saying, you know what?

Jason Atwood: Hey, this is a whole new social channel that I haven't really thought about before. I'd like to learn how to do it. Like, tell me, like, what's your process? How do you come up with content? You know, how do you, literally, how do you do your podcast? So I think that would be, so just let us know, that'd be great. If you wanna go to Dreamforce, which is on November 18th through 20th, how would I go and can I get a discount?

Justin Edelstein: Well, you gotta get on a plane. Nope. And you gotta fly there, if you don't live in San Francisco. But here's the deal, go to dreamforce.com, go to register, and what's the price up to these days? So I'm gonna actually go I'm gonna look so if I go to dreamforce.com and I go Wow, this page loads rather quick rather quickly by quickly I mean slowly and I go to register as an attendee I'm new I'm not new. This is let me say. Oh, it doesn't even give me a price. Anyway, how do you say it's expensive? You could save a hundred bucks When you check out or go through and give your credit card, it's gonna ask if you have a promo code Here's one that saves you a hundred bucks. It's courtesy of the MVPs D 13 MVP REF.

Justin Edelstein: So that's again. It's D 13 for Dreamforce 13 MVP REF If you hundred bucks I think you can pile it on to other promo codes that you get from like if you get one from your AE Right you got one somewhere else. You can pile this one on top and get another hundred bucks off They go totally worth it. Do that book your hotels early.

Jason Atwood: Yeah Next week we'll be back with another episode and we'll be talking about I think we're the little preview Next week is the winter 14 release notes. We know they came out last week. We started reading them. It's 309 pages Although it might be updated already We'll talk about those next week when we've devoured them

Justin Edelstein: 309 pages plus

Jason Atwood: When we've forgotten all the stuff that we just saw that really isn't about that's gonna be the toughest part of next week's like okay what what so I'm gonna try to forget yesterday because now I gotta just think about the stuff that's coming in winter for right because we saw stuff that's not coming it's not coming in we have to be careful right okay speaking of being careful make you focus that pick the week all right by the way where people rate as a 9 on the

30:31 Justin Edelstein: I'm picking the we've written blog posts about it, but no one's ever picked it So I'm gonna pick the jitter bit data loader interesting and here's why So I have a project right now where they need very I'm air quoting light integration, okay, not Not acting integration not pervasive in our pervasive is acting not not informatica not boomy not cast iron not talent none of those how many can you me probably a couple more if I tried think not jitter bit integration they need very light integration what they need is to run a query every 15 minutes pull data out put it on an SFTP site nice that's what they need so the jitter bit data loader which is free is an alternative to the Apex data loader, which is Salesforce's data loader, and it does a little bit more.

Justin Edelstein: Well, let me say a lot more, right? The Apex data, a data loader can do, it can do some simple transformations of data on the fly, right? It can, you know, save your connections. So like I'm using this connection, I'm using this connection. So if you're logging into multiple orgs, doing data loads, it's nice. Cause it saves everything for you. Can save queries for you can do a lot of things that the data loaders very like one-and-done type of things I guess you can save mappings, but that's about it, right in jitter bit You can save a lot of things and there's a lot of places where you can send data or pick up data from And it has a scheduler. So you can schedule in my use case every 15 minutes.

Justin Edelstein: I want to run this query and and I want to tape it, I'll put it as a CSV file and FTP it to a particular location and it should run every 15 minutes and JitterBit can handle that which is a much higher end version of what the Salesforce data loader can do. It can do a whole lot of other things I'm just giving you my use case you can get it on the Mac, you can get it on the PC, they just announced a cloud version, so they're really all in on this free data loader solution. It's kind of like the crack dealer, they give you a little free data loader, and then they're like, by the way, we sell a full scale OTL tool, crack, and if you like this, wait till you get a load of this, right?

Justin Edelstein: If you need to really start transforming because you can do just very simple transformations If you really need to start transforming if you really need to do a lot of data You can go buy their product, but I'm picking the free one jitter bit data loader awesome Mac PC Sorry jitter

Jason Atwood: Bit about calling your product crack

33:32 Justin Edelstein: Well, it is the free data loader is kind of like crap, okay?

Jason Atwood: I am going to pick something that Is like it's multi-tenant multi-tenant thing Because I'm picking like sort of three parts two or two parts to it So as we probably discussed a little bit on this podcast. We are both big NFL fans and so we watch a lot of NFL and there is The ways to watch NFL games and stuff is a little bit tough sometimes so You know there's the NFL has I started to put out these packages where you can watch games like we were out Kia And we couldn't watch our team because it was on the wrong time whatever So, there's an app called Preseason Live. Now, you probably don't want Preseason Live now, because Preseason is literally over, or maybe it's over tonight. So, you don't want this app, but it was 20 bucks.

Jason Atwood: And so, the thing about this for next year, 20 bucks, and you get to watch any Preseason game live. Now, I was away last week in a foreign country watching live Preseason games. It was awesome. You get to watch the recaps. It's a great little app. 20 bucks. It's a subscription for the Preseason. You subscribe every year if you want. Okay, what I'm gonna talk about is something coming up called NFL game rewind which I'm sure you've heard or seen the ads for if You're an NFL fan. It's really neat to my second year buying it again It's like it's like either 30 to 70 bucks for the season. What's nice is you get to watch every game So this is only rewinds. You can't watch them live because that's another whole thing But you get all these different things you get the archives so back in 2009 You can watch any game back to 2009 you get the coaches film, which is a new angle to do them.

Jason Atwood: So free apps with a description behind preseason guys, 20 bucks for a year. You don't want that yet. Use that for next year. NFL game rewind. I think it's like 30 bucks if you just want to use your team and then you go up to like 70 bucks. You want every team. Neat, neat, neat. If you're, you know, if you're a football fan and you don't have access to everything, it's, it's absolutely great. Half the cost of a ticket to any one of these games. So that is my pick of the week available on NFL.com. There's, I think you click on the watch NFL games link. The rumor is that the Google, this actually came out last week, Google is looking to maybe buy the NFL Sunday ticket and take over that. Really? Yes.

Jason Atwood: That came out last week that they're talking in talks to take it over because it's over with. Direct TV has it until the end of 2014 and then it's up and they pay, Direct TV pays about billion a year for that privilege of having the only way to sort of show live, you know, stream live, have the broadcaster live. If Google bought it, I'd be so happy because you know they would turn into a streaming product that you could just buy anywhere. You'd get it on a million devices, so it'd be great. As opposed to DirectV is a little bit like they're trying to sell their DirectV service. Google isn't trying to sell their services, they're just trying to sell, you know, product that can work on any device. So anyway, a little throw in there.

36:46 Jason Atwood: All right, so remember, follow Justin at Just Edelstein. Follow me at Jason Atwood, Arkus, Inc. on Twitter. We're on Facebook at Arkus, Inc., Dreamforce Portal Group, we're in the Success Community Group, we're in LinkedIn and Google Plus. Please subscribe, so all you listeners, if you're a listener, you're like, oh, I really like the podcast and I'd like to meet these guys. Please tell us by going into iTunes and leaving a great review, because then we get the review forever and we'll even mention you when you leave the review.

Justin Edelstein: We just got mentioned, by the way, 15 minutes ago by Denise, a fan, who we took a picture with. She tweeted the picture? Oh yeah. Alrighty then. So Denise, you got called out twice.

Jason Atwood: So that's just happened. But yes, please review us in iTunes. Again, it's sort of, it's a great way, when people are looking for podcasts, I see all the reviews, so that would be great. Maybe that's the only way you'll be able to meet us at Dreamforce if you leave reviews. Until next week, we'll be back. As always, Jake and Justin saying, enjoy the sky days.