Enhanced Performance - Episode #148 of CloudFocus Weekly

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00:10 Jason Atwood: This is the 148th episode of CloudFocus Weekly for the third week of August 2013. This episode is titled Enhanced Performance. Coflix, we're sponsored by Arkus, your Coflix experts. I'm your host, Jason Atwood, joining me in his own enhanced way. It's Justin Els and Justin, how are you doing today? I'm doing just fine, thank you very much. This is gonna be a marathon. It's not a sprint, this is a marathon. This is a marathon? This is a marathon.

Justin Edelstein: I don't know- I don't know about that. This podcast is a marathon. This podcast? This podcast feels like a sprint.

Jason Atwood: This one might be a sprint. The next one will be a marathon. We're recording things in advance. I think it's like being honest.

Justin Edelstein: Not too much meat there, but it's all salesforce. So it's all good. Well, it's $300 of meat. Wow. That's a lot of meat. That's a nice. Steak. It's a good steak.

Jason Atwood: And then we'll talk about the next episode and then we'll make our Cloudbook's more steak or is it more sizzle pick of the week at the end. So let's talk first. The. Person who shall remain nameless Wrote a state of Salesforce mobile. I think sparked on by the release of the new chat mobile. Yep We've been talking about Salesforce and Salesforce mobile for a long time and it comes down to Basically, it's a nice like a review of like where you are the why. Yep When I'm on with clients, I start talking about mobile and I just go, okay, do you guys have some time? Because let's get into it. It's not like just it's mobile. I mean, I guess the answer is yes, there's mobile.

Justin Edelstein: It's a simple one line answer. But then, how are you using Salesforce? Because that then determines which mobile. option you want to choose. So let's go through the three options. All right. Give me the three options. So the three options are Salesforce Mobile Classic, renamed.

Jason Atwood: I hear they used in. Renamed from Salesforce Mobile to Salesforce Mobile Classic. I think they use a different ingredient, a different recipe for this. I don't know. This is the classic edition.

Justin Edelstein: And then we have Salesforce Touch. Watch. This is the new HTML5. Made specifically for touch devices version of Salesforce and then we have Salesforce chatter Which has been around but has just recently been enhanced to do a Lot more than it used to do right with records Meaning,

Jason Atwood: You know, we'll get into it in a minute. Yeah. So let's talk about Salesforce Mobile Classic. This is the one that's been around forever.

Justin Edelstein: Let me start off by saying this is my mobile app of choice. Salesforce Mobile Classic. It's my mobile app of choice. If someone were to say to me, you can only have one Salesforce mobile app out of these three on your device. This would be the one of why it is faster. Yep. It has offline. Those are like my two Biggest things it's so much faster like it's not even funny. It just boots right up boom boom boom you put in your pin You're in search for stuff. It's there because you've already kind of cashed it and then so many times I'm like commuting, this is the purpose of these mobile apps is I not sitting in front of my laptop at my desk. I'm going somewhere I'm on the subway and I'm meeting with a client.

03:59 Justin Edelstein: And I want to look at that client that account want to look at who the people to do that on the Salesforce Classic. With that said, I haven't had a whole lot of time to really dig into the new chatter version to know if it can really like replace.

Jason Atwood: Well, well, hold on. Let's let's stay with classic limitations of. A classic. There are limitations. It's very device specific, meaning it's an app that you download and install. It has no chatter in it. No, it does not. It used to.

Justin Edelstein: It used to. Which is sort of a bummer. Now it doesn't.

Jason Atwood: And then it also, its ability to edit records is limited.

Justin Edelstein: Anymore? No, you can't get it. You can have some objects. There are some custom objects that are there and some that aren't, which is... Well, that was the big thing.

Jason Atwood: You can't get to like custom stuff you've built. That was the whole thing. You can't get the custom objects. Well, you can. There are some. I just don't understand why some are there and some aren't.

Justin Edelstein: And we're talking about Salesforce Mobile Classic Lite. Like not the full version that you'll get with. unlimited or some other version of Salesforce that's being released.

Jason Atwood: Did everybody see me roll my, my eyes on Salesforce mobile play. I roll. Thirty five dollars a month. No. So, you're right. It is the one I use the a most.

Justin Edelstein: I... Just because it's quick. You're right. It's quick. It's just fast. Yeah, you're right. For some reason I thought I could get to... custom objects. No, I guess I was misinformed or almost like you didn't pass the past like some sort of sales. No, it's weird. Just for some reason, I thought I had seen custom objects on this thing in the past. But again, it's it's a native app. It's very fast. It works. You can log calls, you can do all that stuff on it, right? It has all the native like, you know, click an address, boom, Google Maps, you Click a phone number. It dials the phone. You click the email, you do the email. It does all the things I need it to do and it does it fast and well. I know it's not the future, but in the moment now, if you were to ask me a year from now, I might have a different answer, but right now,

Jason Atwood: This is my mobile app of choice. If you just want, if you just want accounts, contacts, leads, opportunities, and cases, and you just want, and you don't want chatter, and you want it to be offline, it is a good choice. So I agree. Next is Salesforce touch touch.

Justin Edelstein: Now I don't go near touch. I don't touch touch. It crashes on me too much. Wow Wow. That all rhymed, I think. Yeah, it does. It just crashes to too often, particularly when I'm not on a wifi network. So if I'm,. if I'm on like my LTE or you know just 4G or whatever. It just crashes like, well, like really, really crashes. And you can talk about like what's nice about it. Cause I really don't, I don't, I don't like it. You know, what's nice about it. I just don't like it.

07:08 Jason Atwood: So that is the idea that again, released or beta a couple of years ago, GA, I think as of one or two releases ago. The idea that they're going to get away from, move away from device specific, although it's funny that touch is device specific. Yeah, it's an app. Well, no, it's a website, but they have an app wrapper that they give it to you, but it can only work right now with a couple of devices. Right. So while relent the future is, it's HTML5, it can work on anything. thing. The present is, I think it's iPhone 5 and iPod, iPad. Whatever. Yeah so like a not original iPad. Right, it basically needs a lot of the power in processing and it needs a really good browser to run that. So, and what it is, it's an HTML version.

Jason Atwood: It's like Gorging to Salesforce native straight up. It's just you're getting the touch version of it. So you're getting, so everything's organized in a way. It's like a skin for Salesforce. So everything's organized and left to right and everything slides and everything has these things over it. I think there's too many layers to it, personally.

Justin Edelstein: In order to take action on things, there's a lot of layers that I have to jump through and then the speed factor comes into play because every time it's going out... to go get the information coming back as opposed to it just being there locally.

Jason Atwood: And but it allows you to do a lot like it has dashboards in it, it has chatter in it, it has you know the ability to edit things now. I mean you can there's a lot in it I think where it suffers from me and it has apps, it has custom objects so like it has a lot in it. What it suffers from for me is really is views. because the way I navigate tons and tons and tons of data is through views. And when I can't, when it's just like, oh, here's your recent stuff, I'm like, I don't, what's recent to me? Like I need views. I need views of stuff. And if you can't pull down those views that show me all open this, all then basically I don't, I'm either going to search for it and just get one on you with classic or I don't know.

Jason Atwood: That's it. Like that's I need I need to be able to get to stuff very specific or need a list of stuff. So But it is definitely the future. It needs speed big Big time. Well classic, classic has views They had some views.

Justin Edelstein: Yeah, it doesn't have really like it's not pulling down like exactly has the the standard List views, not the custom ones. But better than nothing, right? Like closing next month, opportunities, it has that view. Right, right. So then there's Salesforce Chatter, which I think, this is the one that's gonna win for me in the long term, I feel. This is the one that's confusing me the most. This is the one that's gonna win for me.

Jason Atwood: It's a native app, but it has a lot of HTML5 feel to it, meaning it doesn't feel native fast. It feels HTML5 slow, but it's native. So I don't know what's going on there. I don't know. I can't get under the hood. But it was meant and it's been growing over the time. I mean, chatter 1.0 was like... you can see your feed. And that's it. And then it's been growing and now you can see objects and now you can, in this latest version, Chatter 4,

10:23 Justin Edelstein: You can now edit, which is huge. And we're basically in a Chatter view, but then editing a record. And see related records. You can really see all the data that you can see inside of touch, just you have to get to it in a different way through the feed. This It's slow, but it's there. Like that's the real reason why I don't use touch because it's slow. And I feel like it crashes on me too often. This chatter app is going to be the one that I feel like I'm going to move to when I decide like it's not like I don't have all three. Like I'm sitting with my phone and I've got all of them. Me too. but this is going to be the one that I'm going to move to. To have the chatter in it, obviously.

Justin Edelstein: And Classic doesn't and I'm gonna be able to get to records. I'm gonna be able to edit records I'm gonna be able to look at custom objects. I'm gonna be able to look at related records So I feel like this is the one that eventually I'm gonna I'm gonna get to and I think this is it's also leaving out I mean, these are the three sort of like from

Jason Atwood: Salesforce, but there's two others that I think are actually even I think they're better. Like the ones that I, well, I use one of them, I don't use the other one. This has dashboards in it too. It does. They're not as nice as the dashboards app for iOS. There's one called Salesforce dashboards. And it's just really nice. It like, it does everything you want and more. Actually unless you see like record, I am reports that will give it to you like in a little view. Really great. See you next week. That one's but and then there's one called force dot force dot com labs or force was it called force force labs force pad force pad It's the force dot com Labs version of a native Salesforce one using the API that the partner who's renamed uses all time He loves that he uses that that's how he gets into the records But again, it's a labs project.

Jason Atwood: So the story is not even as muddy as these three. It's muddied on top of these three with two others that are Salesforce labs projects. So they're not officially supported, but they're Salesforce. They work. So I guess really the state of the state is that you have lots of options. I don't think any of them are perfect. No, none of them make me.

Justin Edelstein: I really wish that they would think of classic, not as classic like because that the functionality that it has is really good. And if it was just improved upon and like given the.

Jason Atwood: Custom object stuff there would be no reason for touch Well, I think there there is because they don't want to be they don't want to be devices specific They don't want to be dead vice pick, but then they keep putting out device specific versions of right at her But I feel like the chatter has its own But sell me on but chatter has its own path and the reason they're doing that is because from my understanding and limited understanding is chatter can be Sort of how do I say it's separated from Salesforce meaning you could be someone who's a chatter user But not really a Salesforce user and they kind of sell it that way that sort of chatter free It's sort of I don't know. I just feel like there's this whole path of going down.

13:48 Jason Atwood: You're gonna be a chatter user But you wouldn't necessarily know Salesforce. You wouldn't get into anything else. You'd be using groups, files, and profile, but you wouldn't be doing anything else. So if they had two different apps, that allows them to kind of support them separately. Also, Salesforce in HTML5 will have offline. So the future should be bright in that HTML5 will support offline eventually. So the speed... should pick up. The offline ability should pick up. But right now it feels muddy. I mean, in some ways, it's the best it's ever been, meaning we have more options than we ever had before, and they all work, and they all give you these great stuff. I just, every time I go into one of them, I feel, I kind of have to remember, is this the one that I can do that thing that I want to do, or have to do in that other one?

Jason Atwood: And that's sort of where I get to. The only way that I judge.

Justin Edelstein: Is just based on my own usage patterns, which is I never open touch. I use classic when I'm mo when I am being mobile and I use chatter when I'm, you know, when I just want to check the chatter feed. Yeah. And I use the mobile apps. That's it. When I am mobile though, I use classic. So that's. to me, like, that's the one that I use. Well, there's the one that the other one that I use,

Jason Atwood: Which is I just log into Salesforce. That's via my iPad.

Justin Edelstein: So I'm saying. I'm on my phone and I'm like, you know, it's classic. It's not. It I've done it too. It's not the greatest thing in the world. Like I've logged into the success community on my phone. There's no other way to really get into it from a mobile. Works fine.

Jason Atwood: Well, I think that's where it even gets worse on the iPad is that you have the Salesforce in a browser version. That's actually what I tell people.

Justin Edelstein: Well, I tell them that too. When I go to clients and they're like, what should we do with the iPad? I say log in on the browser. Enjoy it. It's going to be the best experience of all to me. It's going to be the fastest. It's going to be the most rich. It's tiny. You're going to have the most data. Tiny, tiny little places to touch. Yeah. You can zoom, pinch, the point. I mean, I get it. Touch will eventually, hopefully get there and replace that kind of thing. Like the need to log in on the browser or every time you log in on the browser, just brings you to the touch experience. I think that's the goal of it, right? But for now, I'd rather the full UI versus the touch UI when I log in, I'm like.

Justin Edelstein: On my iPad, it's just so much faster.

Jason Atwood: Well, I mean, again, tons of options out there. You literally,

Justin Edelstein: On any device, have at least five options. and you can go to arkusinc.com slash blog and read all about them. Or blog.arkusinc.com, which isn't working yet. Ah, you're shaking your head. Hey, I can make it work by the minute we get out. Yeah, that's why I haven't been saying blog.argausing.com No, go to blog.argausing.com. It just brings you to the homepage. No, but there's a big button in the high that says blog.

Jason Atwood: Oh, I'll fix a HTML redirect. Whatever. Come on.

16:51 Justin Edelstein: It's an Apache change. Come on. All right. Speaking of Apache redirects. That was good. My voice is going, excuse me. Alright, well while you're clearing your throat, we'll talk about a story that came out on Monday. Someone called this a press release. Yeah, some would call it a press release. You're right. Press release that was released on August 12th, which was Monday of this week. Talking about how Salesforce.com, the world's number one CRM platform, announced Performance Edition. A brand new edition of Salesforce. new license type just to make it a lot easier to figure out which license you need so they

Jason Atwood: Went and so the performance let me just let me just start by saying let me talk about the current version so I'm on the sales cloud yeah on their home page and I'm just talking about on that Well, no, they did not want to chat. Stop chatting me.

Justin Edelstein: By the way, let me just let me start by saying that performance edition is slated to be available on November 4th of 2013. Just say fire. It doesn't say safe harbor just prior to force. Okay.

Jason Atwood: Well, clearly they'll talk about that. I'm sure they will. I. I don't know if that's gonna get a lot of cheers, because I can't imagine that. If they, you know they do the thing, if you're a non-profit, raise your hand. If you're in an organization between this size and this size, they always do that. If you're on performance edition, raise your hand.

Justin Edelstein: No, if you're willing to pay for this, raise your hand. Wow, let's talk about it. No, no, no. Read me the prices and I'm gonna actually...

Jason Atwood: But I want to bring everybody up to speed. So for those of you who haven't shopped around for Salesforce licenses, and we don't shop around a lot, but a lot of our clients come in on different editions, generally they have it, but sometimes they're asking us, hey, what would you get? And I have helped people implement every one of these. I've been on every one of these so far. So contact manager,

Justin Edelstein: Five bucks. Man, that used to be two. Five bucks, every dollar amount that you say is per user per month.

Jason Atwood: Let's throw that out there. There are limitations. So contact manager, you can only get to five users and you have to get off. That's it. You're done. Group, 25 bucks. Again, this is retail pricing. I have had people negotiate group. I've had people actually negotiate group pricing. Professional, 65 bucks per user per month, billed annually. Enterprise, now you go from 65 to 125.

Justin Edelstein: Nice. Yeah, that's a big jump. Good jump though. Yeah. But that's a good jump. You're getting a lot for your money there. Yeah, I mean the sweet spot is basically right at Enterprise, I think.

Jason Atwood: Then you go to Unlimited, which is 250.

Justin Edelstein: $250 per, per user per month. For Unlimited. Right. All right, so now I'm going to ask you to do a couple things for me. Yes. Because... I'm going to tell you what you get with performance edition, which is slated to be $300 per user per month. Well, let me just say I was just in sales cloud. If I went to service cloud, I would have professional edition, enterprise edition, unlimited edition, right?

19:52 Jason Atwood: If I went to marketing cloud, I then have a whole bunch of other stuff. I've got force.com white and force.com enterprise. I've got chatter editions, chatter and chatter plus. I've got data.com editions, data.com clean, prospector, premium, 25 there. Stay there. Well hold on. But I want you to stay there. No, I have to do the last one, which is work.com, which is good.

Justin Edelstein: Stay there. Can I go back? No. I want to go somewhere. Because here's the deal. With performance edition, I want to break this down as well as I can. You're going to get. Sales Cloud, Service Cloud, and the platform obviously, with all the additional capabilities that Unlimited Edition gives you today. Does it come with Chatter? Chatter. Wow. Right? So you're getting Sales Cloud and Service Cloud.

Jason Atwood: Okay. All right. So, so specifically the service cloud is mean something so say what service cloud usually so service cloud means the the console

Justin Edelstein: Vue of the service cloud as well as console the new service cloud console console yet, right? And and I mean to me that's kind of it because the rest of its tack on stuff like like live agent and knowledge Which is included? in this performance edition. So if you look at the Service Cloud pricing, you'll see that where it says Knowledge Base or whatever. Yep, star star star. There's a star star starry star, which includes another price. And Live Agent, which includes another price. So this includes. that stuff too in performance Things for how much wrong feel more $50 more dollars. Oh my god $50 per user I feel like that's actually like they're actually doing a good thing here. I Because of here's the if you're on unlimited it's that's the thing here's

Jason Atwood: The nobody's on unlimited wanting to get these extra things If you're on unlimited

Justin Edelstein: You have a serious gripe with the fact that you don't get knowledge where they don't get work.com or that you don't get live agent. You're like, what is unlimited mean guys?

Jason Atwood: I thought I'd get everything. We have clients who have unlimited and love to argue that unlimited is not unlimited.

Justin Edelstein: Performance edition is really unlimited. How many,

Jason Atwood: No idea. No, how many fields can put an object? It's the same as unlimited. It was unlimited.

Justin Edelstein: But you get, but you get these other products that acknowledge. Yeah. You get live agent. To me, these are like actual, this is actual monetary value. So if you were to look and you were to say, how much does work.com cost per user? And add that to how much does data.com cost? They don't tell you what versions though. So it's kind of hard to say. Add up the knowledge cost and then add up the live agent cost. You're gonna get to more than $50. So,

22:55 Jason Atwood: But work.com is either 10, 15 or $20. Okay. Let's say it's the $15 version. Cause that's the most popular. more. Data to data the comm is 25 125 or 165.

Justin Edelstein: We're already at 40 bucks. Okay, so you're gonna tell me knowledge and live agent are gonna come in under 10 I don't think so. But I think here's here's what I don't like the argument because you're putting it on top of

Jason Atwood: Unlimited you're not putting on top of Enterprise. No, I'm putting on top of an- And it looks like it's- I'm not doing anything. Well, I think that's why it looks like it's a good deal where I don't, I'd rather, I feel like unlimited is overpriced, and so this is on top of unlimited and you're trying to say, oh, well, the jump from limited to this, to performance, is only 50 bucks. But I'm a saying, I think unlimited is too high to where it starts. It's too much to go from- from enterprise unlimited, I think you would agree it's double. It's double. So if this to me, what I think should happen is the whole thing should slide back down. If I chat with this person right now, she's saying, let's chat. Let's chat. No,

Justin Edelstein: Not in the middle of our podcast. Just tell her we're doing a podcast about her pricing. I'd say, can you get me? Can you get me pricing now?

Jason Atwood: I feel like that's the problem. It's not the swing. It's not the gap between 250 and 300. I think there, if you look at that, it looks There's good value there.

Justin Edelstein: It's the gap between what most people on just enterprise and 300. support with the two hour SLA and full sandbox copy. Those have some serious value to them. I feel like this is double the price value. I'm not sure. I feel like they should have just wrapped this stuff into unlimited and made unlimited truly unlimited. Truly unlimited. They could have done that, but this is another like.

Jason Atwood: Because that would have gotten people who are on enterprise to go to unlimited. If you're on enterprise and you're looking at now, now I have to step up above unlimited to get to this thing. I just feel like that's where you're kind of missing it. Again, there's a pricing strategy. I just feel like unlimited was high enough that most people were like, oof, I'm not going there, but even throw more stuff into it. Then I'm like, oh, okay. Unless you're buying like.

Justin Edelstein: A mega amount of licenses. Well they threw it above unlimited which is what I kind of thought.

Jason Atwood: If they dropped it, maybe they would have made unlimited like 200 and then made this 250 or 275.

Justin Edelstein: I'd be like oh okay. Make unlimited more appealing that's for sure. Well again no one plays retail. Like I feel like I feel like this makes unlimited. far less appealing. Because it's like, well, I guess I'll get this one because it's only 50 bucks more. Right. And look at all the stuff you're giving me. Right. I think it's a way... because I feel like Salesforce needs a way to sell these other products. I don't feel like Work.com, Live Agent, Knowledge. Big sellers. I just don't I just knowledge anything feeling. I don't really get the feeling that they're like big big sellers So this is a way to kind of be like yeah now we have however many hundreds of thousands of users on live agent we have a 100 some odd thousand users on work.com right all that stuff question that they Claim at the big keynotes question.

26:27 Justin Edelstein: Well, let me finish my sentence. All right go on Go on, go on. Nonprofit pricing. No idea. They don't get, they actually,

Jason Atwood: I do know they don't get unlimited. So you get enterprise, but so you can't get, so that's what I'm saying. I can't get performance at 80% off. No clue.

Justin Edelstein: Cause we have to really ask a nonprofit account executive about that. Cause I know they get the other stuff. Yes, 80% off anything they purchase but they get that something that I'm not out. I think the sales cause stuff the service cause stuff I don't think they discount as heavily They're still discounted. Yeah, they discount. That's for sure. Yeah. All right. Well Interesting I I if this is if this is the big announcement We know what people need to do they need to come to dream force. Yeah, it's register for dream You need to register for Dreamforce with this awesome discount code D13MVPREF.

Jason Atwood: And how many on performance edition devices could I buy? I don't know. No, no, no. If I register, how much could I save to go towards performance edition?

Justin Edelstein: Oh, oh, I get us a hundred hours off. Well, it depends how many people are registering for your company. No, well, I guess it doesn't really a hundred dollars.

Jason Atwood: So I'm saying you could buy one third. Of, you buy one third. So D a D 13 MVP, RAF, right?

Justin Edelstein: Which is the... That is the promo code.

Jason Atwood: Is the promo code for Dreamforce. We're having a... You're messing around with me in Google Docs. What are you doing? We're having a little... We're having a little... A tiff in... We're on the air! We can't be having a tiff in Google Docs.

Justin Edelstein: Why are you messing around with my Google Docs? You can't see it. Oh, okay. Click on it. See what happens. All right. All right.

Jason Atwood: Listen security. Let's other gloves. Let's talk about next next next week. So say Farber next week both Justin and I are traveling and so we cannot get together to actually traveling the week after but we think we have or traveling together the week after so we could. We know we can't we're gonna podcast on the road. I think next week probably week after

Justin Edelstein: Probably somewhere in the 28th 29th 30th Right but next week. We're not around we're traveling so We thought it would be nice.

Jason Atwood: We've never done this before so that's why we're being totally honest with you We thought we would do one of our special episodes And we'll record it right after this podcast, but it won't be available till next week. So it's literally, you're going to hear all about this and you're going to hear, you're going to think of us doing this, but you're not going to get to listen to it until next week. So next week's episode. So that's the one that'll come out next week. Let's call it like Wednesday of next week, whenever, right? We'll be all about streaming TV. We're going to go down our top list, our top 10 list of streaming TV shows.

29:32 Justin Edelstein: ... And we're going to battle out to see who has the best list. I put 14 on my list, just in case I need to go to extra innings. I have many more than that. I know, but I only made the list to 14. I have 10 on my list. You can't go on 14. So the list of 10 you can have in case I have to go to extra innings. There's no extra innings. You go to pick something that I was going to pick or something. No, we're going to go, whatever. So we're going from 10 to one.

Jason Atwood: It'll be fun. It'll be a fun episode. This is kind of, one of these fun ones that we haven't. that the cloud focusness of it will be that you can stream. You can stream it.

Justin Edelstein: Right. And I, I've been wanting to do iPod. We want to throw some pop culture into CloudFocus Weekly. Plus we're big TV guys. Everyone knows who listens on a regular basis. We talk about Netflix. We talk about the Roku box. We talk about the Apple TV. So someone even asked us, like, send me your list of TV shows.

Jason Atwood: So we figure we'll do it on it. All right. So that'll be next week. Let's do our picks. So let's do our cloud focus at pick of the week. All right. This week.

Justin Edelstein: So I'll go first is as per normal, so I've been hooked on this game Wow on my iPhone everyone your game stink like I tried your line game. I didn't like it You know like that one. This is it. I finished that one. This is a good game. Okay, it's called super paper pool Okay, it is a mix between pool and mini golf Okay, if you can imagine like having these, these little boards, yes that you have a pool Stick that you get to adjust the cue and and like see how it's gonna hit Whatever the white balls coughs the cue ball your ball you must be very good at pool i'm off i have no idea how to play pool but you adjust the the stick and and and to the angles and you get like where you have to hit the the balls into specific pockets but it's like laid out like mini golf so you have to play like different angles and you have to like some levels of like only get one in some levels or you have to get three in and they have different like pars so like one will be like a par three one will be a par four okay you get that many shots to get the ball into the holes okay and it's just mind-numbing and silly and Can sit on the couch for like an hour doing it while the little ladies watching like Some TV show that will not be on our list won't be It's 199 I think it's worth it.

Justin Edelstein: Is it universal? Oh, I have it on my phone. I don't know if it's universal I haven't even looked on my iPad to see if it's on there because I don't really care. Good news is I can click on it. Click on that thing and tell me if it is. Yes, it is. It is great. So it's on my iPad. I just never play it on there. It's from one side software, 199 Super Paper Pool. It's a mind-numbing game that you'll be able to play and love. It's very rare I pick a game. That's true.

Jason Atwood: I have so many games that are coming up that I'll wait. I could do an all games episode. But anyway, so this is my pick this week is from three episodes ago when we did our Paperless episode and I picked Paper Karma.

32:40 Justin Edelstein: Oh, thank you for that one. Yes, by the way. It's great. I can't say it's great because I don't know.

Jason Atwood: I do know. Like I've been using long enough that I know. Okay good.

Justin Edelstein: Because I love it. It's so easy. I just bring all the mail upstairs. No longer do I throw it out downstairs. Oh I even take shots downstairs and throw it out. I'm like going to the next level. I just bring it up. I don't even want to edit to it. I throw it in my inbox and I'll get to it when I get to it. I don't even want my little lady to see those catalogs so that I can unsubscribe before she sees them.

Jason Atwood: I've done that. Because some people still like catalogs. Yeah, not good. So there's an app for that. There's an app called catalogs spree. May I look at it? Yes, which is an iPad app and it has all the catalogs. So you can get sharper image. You can get all the catalogs you used to get via nice. Yeah, that you used to get by paper.

Justin Edelstein: Nice interface on this thing. Yeah, it has tons. I can search for them.

Jason Atwood: So called catalogs spree. So for all those people who like catalogs, can I look at like like Victoria's Secret Really?

Justin Edelstein: Yes. Here's like something that looks like Victoria's Secret.

Jason Atwood: Anyway, you pick your catalogs They have new ones you pick the ones you like it gives you updates if you want to go if you're like fully cataloged out Yeah, it'll send you notifications. It's cool. It's a catalogs app. It's called catalogs pre. What's interesting is you have paper karma in paper karma. They advertise this a lot, which is clearly, I think this is the company that might be behind it or somehow, but anyway, this is great.

Justin Edelstein: It's a great app. And you can buy stuff from here. Oh yeah, you can buy online at the. Boom, you pop right in. Yeah, so, you know, kind of cool. On an iPad, it's kind of neat. So you got a lot of, so you can take your. You're getting iMessages here. Oh, you can take your catalog on the road.

Jason Atwood: Yeah, they got all sorts of stuff in there. I mean, it's catalog-y, so you can still flip from page to page to page. But then you can, if you look at something, it'll zoom in.

Justin Edelstein: Oh, look at that. Yeah. It's very well done. It's well done.

Jason Atwood: The catalog's free. Well thought out. You get another, you know the reason not to get a catalog in the mail.

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