Predictive CES - Episode #120 of CloudFocus Weekly

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00:11 Jason Atwood: This is the 120th episode of CloudFocus Weekly for the second week of January 2013. This episode is titled Predictive CA-C-S. That's easy for me to say. CloudFocus Weekly is sponsored by Arkus. CloudFocus Weekly experts, I'm your host, Chase Nowood. for the first time, the co-coffing host in 2013. It's Justin Edelstein. Justin, how are you doing today? I'm coughing, it's,

Justin Edelstein: My coughing, it's, vacation and the second... Still your fault. The second week was I got sick on on vacation and just was not able to talk enough to do a podcast.

Jason Atwood: First of all, only the week take vacations and second of all, only the week get sick on their vacation.

Justin Edelstein: Sick on vacation was just the worst and I'm still feeling it. I've got this like winter cold thing going on. It is going around. My daughter is hit with it. or something. No No fun. Here's what happens. Everybody goes away,

Jason Atwood: They get new germs, they bring back those new germs to their old places, never get sick from them. And all stuck on a cruise ship. with a whole bunch of people, their new germs. So you get Idaho germs and South Carolina germs. There was also the stories of the stories about cruise ships and

Justin Edelstein: People getting sick on cruise ships and then it becoming an outbreak on the cruise ship. Oh yeah. I wasn't on one of those, but I was definitely sick on a cruise ship.

Jason Atwood: Put it that way. agenda here on the on 13 predictions written by yours truly. We'll talk about that. We have a whole bunch of CES news, including Salesforce in CES. It kind of makes two great things. It gives us an excuse to talk about CES we figured next year.

Justin Edelstein: We have edge type. Things still things that have not happened still things that are like have happened But are just happening and are happening different than I than the way that they were being displayed on the floor at that time like example, I LG was the company that stuck in my in my head the most they had this whole Booth set up like the Front yard of someone's house and then the living room when you walk into the person's house and had it all controlled Via a cell phone right like let me turn on the sprinkler system. Let me open the garage door for my cell phone. Let me oh I'm on my way home. Let me turn the air conditioner on let me turn the heat on Oh, I'm on my way to the grocery store.

03:33 Justin Edelstein: Let me look at the camera via my cell phone that's in this, that's in the refrigerator and see if I need milk, or whatever, and that just blew my mind. Well,

Jason Atwood: There's a couple things, we'll talk about some of the things that I've heard when we get into our CES talk,

Justin Edelstein: Because I haven't finished with the agenda yet. Yeah, I just jumped right into when I was at CES. Then we have a birthday to announce.

Jason Atwood: We do? Yeah, we do. So we'll announce that birthday, and then we'll make our first picks.

Justin Edelstein: Of the new year the quadrifocus you haven't let me in on your pic ahhhhhh I'm wearing it you're wearing it yeah that's it's not, it's not your jacket no it's not actually I have a dual pick and it's not the thing you showed me no more than 45 minutes ago no it's another thing I could make a triple pic Triple pick I have so many picks You wear your time off. I came up with Ronda's I have to go grab. My phone to make my pick So, I want to play with it as I'm picking. Oh, okay.

Jason Atwood: All right. Well, let's get on to the other stuff There you go. Go over there and grab your phone watch just do that right now First up in the agenda is the now third annual quad computing predictions for year ahead of year that I published actually on the 31st of December. So some predictions for some cloud computing predictions for 2013. A running series now and so I published it. So it's up on blog.arcasync.com if you have not already read it. We're actually like one blog post behind. We'll talk about Spring 13 release next week. There's also there if you want to go pre-read that, and we'll talk about that next week. But this week, we're gonna kind of go back in time and talk about predictions for 2013. I feel like I already got one of these right.

Justin Edelstein: You feel like you've already gotten it. I feel like it's already there. Well, I feel like you got the first one right already.

Jason Atwood: Yeah, because I just read. So anyway, there's six predictions and I gave a confidence level. I did this last year. I gave a confidence level one through ten of what I thought.

Justin Edelstein: Why don't you pick one and we'll discuss that one. I was going to pick the first one because that's the one I'm most interested in. Yes, well,

Jason Atwood: Half of these are predictions and half of, there are things I want them to happen. And this is kind of already happened. Well, no, not the full deal, but it's very close. Well, a lot of it's already happened.

Justin Edelstein: So I'm going to go sports go streaming and like me as a sports fan I like sports wide net right you as a sports fan like football American national football right football and I found out you don't like high school not college football you don't like wasted time football like soccer you like football very narrow the National Football League right so so I like Sports big wide casting net and yes sports has been streaming for a while, right? You can watch NBA you can get the NBA Package and watch it on your Apple TV watch it on your iPad watch it on your on your laptop Whatever same thing with the You could stream virtually anything nowadays, and I think yours was really just focused on the National Football League and the Sunday Ticket and the Red Zone.

07:01 Justin Edelstein: And they kind of do it already on PlayStation. Yep. So you can subscribe through direct TV to the Sunday Ticket and watch it on an app on PlayStation 3. Yep. Right? So this is the one I'm most excited about as a huge sports fan. I want to watch my sports wherever I want, wherever I am, wherever I want. Like, you know, we're traveling the next couple days and there's gonna be a Nick game on and I'm not gonna be able to watch it. Oh, because it won't be local market? Yeah,

Jason Atwood: I just won't be able to watch it. Well, it'll be on. Will it be on the local TV station?

Justin Edelstein: No, it'll be on... Here no work on my msg. Oh, msg only wouldn't be on like channel 9 or channel 11. No, no, no, no, okay Local cable which is even worse than local off the air. Yeah, the only I mean the only sport That well here in New York and probably around the country that has local network television games and only a very small percentage is baseball the football is only really a network television There's one game a one or two games a week that are not on actual network television But two games a week. Yeah, but you know baseball, you know, everyone has their own local You know whether it be Fox Sports or their own network like the Yankees own their own network Yeah, there's a bunch of others that own their own networks But you know I can't watch my neck game, right?

Justin Edelstein: So and I want to watch my neck. So just I could I could if I subscribe to the NBA thing I watch it on my iPad. Okay, so you may be presuming that the internet at the hotel was strong enough to actually allow me Street, it's always a big

Jason Atwood: So more importantly, this is how I'm going to kick this into something else a sports rant. Well, no, I'm going to keep going because CBS just released their plans for the Super Bowl this year. And they're going to do a lot of second streaming. So or second screening. Second screen is where you're using, you're watching the live event, but then on another tablet, iPhone, iPad, whatever. Someone said, fablet today? Fablet. Yeah, it's a phone tablet.

Justin Edelstein: Is that like an iPad? Maybe it's not a fablet. Well, these, no.

Jason Atwood: Yes, if that had a phone in it. Because these things are the phones. Some of those things are huge. The Samsung ones. Smartphones are getting so big that they're almost like tablets.

Justin Edelstein: The Samsung ones are enormous. Too big. The ones with the flip screen. If you need a flip cover on your smartphone, it's not a phone. It's not a phone. At that point, it's a tablet.

Jason Atwood: Anyway, so with CBS just announced, and they're doing a ton with second screen stuff and being able to pick angles, you can actually see the all 22 angle of the Super Bowl live. That's how I'll be watching the Super Bowl. On a second screen, so you can watch live, and you get every commercial so you can be able to go and go watch every commercial when you want to. So like I mean, I know that's sort of a joke. It's like, oh, you get to watch commercials when you want to. But we all know that some of the best parts of the football. Anyway, so I made a bunch of other predictions. No,

10:03 Justin Edelstein: AMC does that for their big shows. They do a second screen. Do they? Yeah, so AMC for Walking Dead and for Breaking Bad goes to specifically. I don't know if they do them for any other ones. Maybe they do it for Mad Men. I don't know. But for Breaking Bad and for. current. Walking Dead, you can bust out the second screen and they have a whole different thing going on. But you gotta,

Jason Atwood: That's like. You have to sync it though. You kinda have to watch it live. At the time that, oh they've watched it live. Cause I've heard with Blu-rays, they have a technology now with Blu-ray TV. This is all technology show. Yeah, it's all computer stuff. Blu-rays now, they'll announce a Blu-ray. See you next week. I forgot which one it was. Maybe it was the new Batman or something like that. And you watch the Blu-ray, and as you're watching the Blu-ray, you start this app, the app that you get, it's a second screen app, and then it has, as you're watching the Blu-ray, it has things that go in and out. So it'll like show you pre-cut things and like screenshots. Screenshots of stuff and photos from the.

Jason Atwood: From what they're doing on the screen and kind of, but you have to start it at the same time to get the second screen to be in sync. I've heard of other ones where it'll listen and it'll sync it up based on what it hears. So that you hear some in certain scenes. I like that. Oh. Listening is good.

Justin Edelstein: I don't know, I've never really done the second screen thing. I just know it exists. It's because at... I never watch these shows when they're on. I usually wait about 20 minutes and then start them. Like I'm T-bowing them and then I watch them. I watch them that night. I watch them in real time. I usually watch them that night. But watch them like 20 minutes later. So I don't have to watch the commercials. So I don't know how that would. throw the second screen thing off because they're like, all right, get out your second screen right before the episode starts. It should sink. It shouldn't be.

Jason Atwood: It shouldn't be live second screen. It should be something that syncs with what you're saying. And you I'll let you know when when maybe when walking dead. I think walking dead will come back before breaking bad.

Justin Edelstein: So yeah, I'll let you know.

Jason Atwood: All right. So blog that I think that coming through with all my predictions. Kind of fun, you can drop a comment there in our discuss which we like. Other than that, there's also other articles. Again, we post all this stuff up there. So remember to go to blog.arcasinc.com for all of your blogging needs. Next up is really just a bunch of me hitting my ring. Why don't you smack your ring against the table again? Yeah, well this is the third. Fourth 4th or 5th studio I've ever been in A lot to CES coverage so CES going on the computer sorry consumer electronic show Which is sort of the big annual? Shove to bring out almost everything now. I mean consumer electronics is Like that's not in Vegas. That's not in Vegas. That's not in Vegas.

Jason Atwood: I've never been. You said you've been. I've been. You started into a story. Big news for this year for Salesforce people is that, well, a couple things. Salesforce set up the command center at CES to watch CES. So they did the same thing. They did Dreamforce. They set it up at CES. So that's cool. Mark Benioff was at and spoke today at CES. He was a keynote. note. speaker during a keynote session Salesforce being at the, at the, at CVS. He admitted himself that it was odd.

13:44 Justin Edelstein: He, he's like, what am I doing here? Why am I here? Why am I so big? But he made a very good point about convergence of, you know, consumer electronics and products and enterprise technology and how they have to go hand in hand. He even made an interesting statement about like, Which I don't necessarily agree with but he's like, you know ten years from now all this cool stuff the expo floor is gonna be in landfills absolutely true.

Jason Atwood: Well, not necessarily. Oh Absolutely. That was the thing I thought ten years you're overshooting it. I saw some things that I still haven't really seen seen.

Justin Edelstein: Yeah,

Jason Atwood: Those have all come out like Well I saw like a hundred inch television. They're out. They have a hundred ten inch LCD. But this was eight years ago. Right? And in two years that 100S will be in the trash somewhere. It's close. Anyway,

Justin Edelstein: But he was talking more about how if you've seen his Dreamforce keynotes and the Coca-Cola machine. that is far out there and different and that's sort of a consumer electronic piece and the really the Toyota, right? The car that's your friend and the car thinking of the car as an app and why use the computer in the a car you have a phone with an app on it that can is that is stronger than the computer or more powerful than the computer in the car itself He was kind of talking more about that convergence of enterprise technologies and social and brand and the actual product itself.

Jason Atwood: Right, and to me, it's Rit interesting having talked there, because he does a little bit more, bring it down to other things than just his Salesforce stuff. But a lot of that is true. He is in some ways a very visionary about there are no that apps are social, things are social, devices are social. Like if you think about the way devices all talk to each other now, I mean they're not social like, hey Mr. Watch, you're friends with Mr. iPhone. But they're all connected now. I mean so many stuff that I'm seeing in CES is about technology that connects two or three things together. Gone are the days of saying this device does everything you want to do. It's This device connects to other devices. This device does things. For example. I forgot who it was.

Jason Atwood: Someone said that it was a fridge. You know it was in it. Ever note.

Justin Edelstein: I was like... Evernote should be built into fridges.

Jason Atwood: I mean in some ways I was like, so you were talking about your camera, is like inside the fridge you could take a pic, they could like call up or see from afar and see what's in your fridge, do I have milk? Well this was obviously, I could be there and I could then write an Evernote, like go get stuff and then it sinks and it would show up in my phone. So it's kind of stuff like that, I was like yeah that's interesting, a lot of wearable technology. Like the thing I talked about, pebble, pebble. that thing I think I made it my pick, they're launching, they launched big at CES and they're actually shipping for the people who actually bought them they're shipping this month. But again, it's about your phone, your watch is no longer just a watch, it's a connected thing to something else.

17:05 Jason Atwood: It's connected up to your iPhone, so when your iPhone's in your pocket, feels though that doesn't you know you So let's do some stuff, do anything that you saw... What one cool thing did you see or read about that you're kind of like, I can't wait to get that into my hands?

Justin Edelstein: I haven't really seen anything that was like, oh, I can't wait. But I saw some interesting things that I thought, I thought were like, oh, that's pretty neat. Like Dell had this little like USB stick. Yeah. That ran a full...

Jason Atwood: And you Fudge them but HD is a is this so many pixels Density it's like so many pixels by so many pixels. That's why So like, like, you think about how clear your HDTV looks, well Man, remember how bad TV used to be?

Justin Edelstein: I was watching, I was watching an

Jason Atwood: Episode of- I can't even watch television if it's not in the USA. I can- It's like watching like the wires in standard def the entire series. I would never watch it again I couldn't date I couldn't do it. I can't do it Anyway,

20:13 Justin Edelstein: One of the best shows ever on television is in standard definition. Yes,

Jason Atwood: Well Deadwood is an HD so it's good. anything else? I saw, I know Audi made some announcements. Anyway, I always love this stuff because some of it's you're never gonna see it. Well how about the IRS thing? Oh yeah, that was a good, last thing we'll talk about for CES is... kind of hitting us right where some we talk about all the time which is electronic signatures. The IRS actually is now using, they announced they're going to use DocuSign for electronic signatures of up to 25, I guess it's like 25,000 forms that they have that you can sign off. Was that the number? 25 million. 25 million annual forms. Okay. the IRS site today and I think I did an electronic signature.

Justin Edelstein: I think I did an electronic signature. our clients who were purchasing the product to them about. So I've been on those calls and it's like, yeah, the law states basically if the person like checks a box and types their name, dot counts. So you don't need like, sorry, docu-signing, echo-signing. You don't need all that fancy like signature. Really all you need is a sentence that says, I agree that I'm signing this. and then a checkbox and let of them type their name. And your name, right. Yeah.

Jason Atwood: They put in there, as long as they're putting in their name and it's going right. I guess there's always just levels of it. But I think that's cool. I personally don't, I mean, I've watched over the years as I've paid taxes and stuff how the systems have gotten better and better. Now it's better.

Justin Edelstein: It is better now. New York State, we live in New York, New York State, state is better than the federal. Yes, it is. But they're is better than the federal. Yes, it is. But they're both.

Jason Atwood: I'm paving both online, which is all I really care about. New York State, you can register and do without having to like jump through hoops. Fed, you have to get that to send you a pin. You need a pin. You need a pin. In the mail. the first time. Yeah.

Justin Edelstein: Well that's... But I've changed mine three different times because of different bank accounts. If you add a new bank account... Right. That... that... I'll tell... at forewarning, full disclosure, warning for everybody. If you change your bank account that's associated to the bank account that you're paying your federal taxes with, you can do it online. You change your, you change your, this is like kind of railing, but whatever. You change your account. You're still logged in. Yes. it will actually stay in the old account and will perhaps screw you up.

Jason Atwood: Perhaps you'll get a letter from the IRS saying they didn't pay what or you'll just fail.

23:17 Justin Edelstein: You'll get a note from your bank like hey you're trying to pay something. It doesn't exist. It doesn't exist.

Jason Atwood: I mean that and I would love I mean hopefully this is the iteration or the world of I mean, I'm hoping that the next election cycle we can do online. Like, I still don't understand why in the world, if even if they did pins and letters and like, some friends or something like make me register through the hoop, but at least let Evelyn day, like even if six months in advance, I have to send it to not want to stand in line. For I mean, it was miserable this year. Caught hour and a half. I'm standing outside. Yeah. In a little dark room or whatever with tons of other people with people who don't really know what's going on. the system that no matter how bad they build it online, even if they took like 1996 technology and built it online, it would still be better than the actual form you fill out that is the actual voting form.

Jason Atwood: So I don't know why we don't have online voting. We have to get there somehow. Anyway. All right, well that's all I see, yes there's tons of stuff still going on, right? There's still a couple more days. I think today's the last day. Oh, stay the last day? Oh no, no, no, no, no. That's my fault. Ah, Friday's the last day. Friday, I think it goes throughout the day. the week so got a couple more days I'm sure there'll be bigger announcements I don't know I don't think Sony's announced their stuff yet like Sony's usually when

Justin Edelstein: I was there I was only I only went for two days and I really only went to walk the floor I didn't go to any sessions not one it's only there to walk the floor and do stuff on the floor I'm sorry I remember LG was the one that really stuck in my head as being very impressive and Apple too was there Apple Microsoft had a

Jason Atwood: Big yeah, so it's funny because Apple doesn't go anymore In fact Apple usually scheduled one of their big events like after it or before it to kind of take away from the whatever of it come not true, but you can go read about that because, or maybe you got a couple days might come true. Clay said they were going to announce it at CES. And then lastly, before, before we get a pick of the week, we have to make a little, do a little happy birthday. Happy birthday. Happy birthday, to Safari, the browser. The browser. The browser is 10 years old. The big one 0 in the double digits. That's pretty crazy. It feels like just yesterday that Safari whatever came out won. I remember Husing it when I was in college

Justin Edelstein: When it came out and there was a computer lab on campus. So I would go there from time to time to do some work instead of using my own computer. And they had like four Macs and everything else was just you know PC. And I was like oh I want to play with this Mac. It was like you know it was like 2000 and I guess it was 2002 or 2003 or whatever. and- Ah, it was terrible. I could not even use it. I was like, oh, how do I get on the internet? There's no internet explorer on this computer. Back then there was. But it wasn't on that, on this machine. It wasn't. How do I get on there? I was like, oh, Safari, okay. So I opened it up, just terrible.

26:31 Jason Atwood: It wouldn't work. So give me a percentage. We do nothing but probably sit in browsers all day long. All day. I have two sitting in my browser in my dock, so I use them both all day long simultaneously. Yep, I have three sitting in my dock. What percentage give me, so give me your three browsers that you use and what percentage you use them in a given day. Okay, so I use Chrome, Safari,

Justin Edelstein: And Firefox. Firefox is the least use of all of them. It's only used for... very specific circumstances.

Jason Atwood: Me, it's to log into the Salesforce Partner Portal. That's the only thing I use. Firefox is used to log into one application and to log into my personal Google account.

Justin Edelstein: Okay. Because that's the other two browsers, the Safari browser and the Chrome browser. I the Arkus Google account. Right. Is like the... Now I'll say the default for the machine is Safari. So, if I click a link in an email or on Twitter or anywhere, it's opening in Safari. I do most of my work inside of Chrome. So I would say I'm probably 70% Chrome. 29% Safari and 1% Firefox. Yeah, although I would bump the numbers because on mobile devices where I use browsers a lot as well my iPad so typically it's all Safari. I don't use I have Chrome on my iPad and I have Chrome on my iPhone but I do not use it. Right.

Jason Atwood: I would say I'm much more Safari, I'd say like 60% Safari because while I use it, I use it for both. I basically keep, the one thing I do is I keep Chrome as a, it is Arkus only and it's Arkus like internal only. So when I boot up Chrome, it comes up with 10 open tabs and like Google Drive, Arkus, Salesforce. Arkus blog, all Arkus stuff, and then some places I want to look at like cloud, close them all out, and then I basically sit with three tabs open. I have docs, one doc that we use all the time, and then I have Salesforce. Then I'm going to go do any client work, anything else, I go over to Safari and do it in Salesforce. I might start with Google Docs from there, sorry, in Safari, but I always do all client work.

Jason Atwood: It's amazing. because I'm always, if I keep them separate, then I know that I'm never doing client work in Chrome. So if I'm in Chrome, I'm never gonna make the mistake of being in the wrong org and posting in the wrong chatter. It's like I'm in Safari, I'm in someone else's org. I'm never in Arca's org. Yeah, I do most of my work in Chrome because I think I do a lot of work,

Justin Edelstein: Most of my work, a lot of work in Google, in Docs. Yeah. And apps.

Jason Atwood: So I just log myself into my Google Docs on the other side.

Justin Edelstein: Yeah, I don't do that. I feel like they just, I don't know why,

29:43 Jason Atwood: And you can go first. Alright. Do you have your iPhone so you can pick off it? I do.

Justin Edelstein: I'm not picking off of it. I already know what I'm picking. I just want to open the app on my phone so I have it open. So I'm picking the Eventbrite mobile app. Okay? Okay. So the other day You had sent me some some Event yes, I go do you want to go to this event? I was like you know what I do want to go to this event and They used Eventbrite to manage the event So I registered for the event online using Eventbrite And then I noticed it was like, all right, when you, to go to the event, print this thing. And I'm like, I am not printing this thing to go to this event. And they were like, or you can use the mobile app and just bring, you know, a little, I'll show you, there's a little QR code.

Justin Edelstein: So since I'm going to this event, I must do this. You must do this. So I go to the, you know, it doesn't keep me logged in. So I have to now log in here, but. It's a lot of fun. You go to the my events tab on the Eventbrite Application and you'll see what happens once I actually log into this thing. Everybody's waiting breathlessly at home. Waiting, waiting, waiting. Here is the event. Oh, there it is. And I click on the event. and Eventbrite for the iPhone.

Jason Atwood: And Eventbrite actually has some good Salesforce connections. There's some Salesforce connections.

Justin Edelstein: There's been a third party application built that connects Eventbrite to Salesforce built by Groundwire.

Jason Atwood: Really, there's no native event. There's no one that is built by Eventbrite?

Justin Edelstein: There's a crappy one. Okay.

Jason Atwood: From my understanding. Okay. It's not as good as the third party. No, the ground wire one's good.

Justin Edelstein: As long as you're using, I think as long as you're using like the free Eventbrite stuff, you're not charging for your tickets. Which is like this. Right. This event was free. Right. Then the Eventbrite. Connector is free. I don't know exactly how they do it. I would say the registration. I'm not gonna quote that for them, but It's out there.

Jason Atwood: The registration process was pretty good. I will say a couple things one the person who sent it to me said Both in the thing. She said you must register clicking on the link, right? And she also said, you must reply to me saying yes. I was like, so I need to register for something and also- I just registered. And say yes. I got my ticket. So register. So I thought that was a little strange. And then I thought the registration system seemed like, as I remember, as many steps, like four or five too many screens. I was like, really? I had to click here and then click here, then click here. But anyway, all right. So, good, free Eventbrite. If you're a veteran user. Yeah, free. Anything that does Passbook at this point is my favorite thing.

33:03 Justin Edelstein: Yeah, we were confused by Passbook and now we're not.

Jason Atwood: Now, well, we were confused. We love it. Now we were. Now we like it. And now we don't understand why. Although I will say I did fly a different airline. Well, you can say the airline. It was United. OK.

Justin Edelstein: And they had also the ability to, you know, log in, check in on the mobile app. and then send it to the past book. Okay, good. But we were all, you know, like all the tickets were there. Like I could see everybody who was traveling with me's ticket. And I checked myself in. Yep. But then when I went to go to the past book, it showed me only the main person's boarding pass, not my boarding pass.

Jason Atwood: It was a total fail. So which one we use American and it worked great, Great, except for their- their scanner broke and Well that was the airline. That was the airport. Remember we went there and then they had to print it because the scanner broke and the second on the wrong seat said to reprint it and give it to us. I don't think we actually have to scan in. That was the airport. Not the airline. I love Passbook. Great technology. It needs the other people to be as good as Passbook and that's the problem. You can you can do you can do a crappy passbook integration, which seems like most have we'll see how this event bright thing works Alright, so I'm gonna pick a couple picks because they're kind of connected One is I'm holding it in my hand.

Jason Atwood: So I'd like to run and not just away from people in fact before this podcast I went for a quick run start to start off the 2013 season and I've always been a guy who runs but I don't ever do the GPS stuff. I've never done it You would think, Mr. Technology, like, I don't do it. But I've been inspired to do it because I've seen some other people do it and I'm like, all right, so let me find an app. So at first I had to find a holder and I found from Grantwood, with technology, I asked my brother-in-law over Christmas, he pointed me on to the tune band by Grant would technology. So it is a, you know, I don't drive strap holder, whatever, very basic. Holds things put the rubber around it.

Jason Atwood: I've got I've got one of those it's not quite as nice as that one though Whatever I asked him he runs all time like give me one that runs it fits It feels nice. I took it for test. I now will say fine. You should use that so that's grant with technologies All right, then I went and said well, let me find a These are all going together. I'm gonna pick the one app because this is App Pick of the Week. So what's the app? The app is called Runkeeper. And you've probably seen, if you have friends who run on Facebook, you've probably seen it. It can post on Facebook. Oh yeah, Runkeeper. Yeah, like a friend of mine uses that. I see his, Runs all the time. time. So I actually didn't, I've never got the chance to use it, but I did this time.

Jason Atwood: I think one of our associates uses that.

Justin Edelstein: The guy should never be named? No, not him, the other one. Yeah. uses it it to track his bike riding. Yes, it can. It can be that as well.

Jason Atwood: I think he does. So what's here, a couple of things nice about it. One is It's on your iPhone, fine, you start it. Second of all, I have it syncing with Bluetooth with my heart rate monitor, so that's pretty awesome. So now you start up your music or whatever and it can do that from within the app. You give it a playlist and you say start. Now you listen to your earphones and you're running. Then it comes in, every five minutes, I think it's every five minutes or half a mile, no every half mile. Now. and it says, hey, here's what your heart rate is, here's how fast you're running, here's how long you've run, right, and, and here's where you're on track or, you know, whatever, and then goes back out and lets the music keep going.

36:40 Jason Atwood: So really, really nice, nice. And it comes in and just says, here's where you are. You're at this pace, here's your heart rate. Anyway, I thought it was pretty cool. It tracks it all, it gives you a map of your run, it tells you how fast you're running. You can then, afterward, of course, you can have it automatically tweet and Facebook, all that stuff, I'd turn that off, because I think that's kind of annoying. I mean, for everybody else who wants to do it, whatever. But then obviously tracks your GPS. So pretty cool. So I mean after all this time of being a runner I've been around for like 13 years the first time actually use a GPS device for running So pretty cool and you can share with friends you can have like a group you can be you can see other people's running activity And like if you're trying to compete for something you can do that.

Jason Atwood: It's all sorts of social stuff So it's Runkeeper. I think it is free. So that's nice. The other ones about 20 bucks for the holder there are a bunch of these now but i've heard that run keepers one of the better ones so give it a try if you're a runner yeah it's run keeper it's free i'm free you may as well you might as well try it well the problem is you want to pick something and stick with it because you want all your runs to be tapped.

Justin Edelstein: Yeah, but you know if you're gonna just start out with nothing you may as well start with a free one.

Jason Atwood: I used to use something called, it's another app. I picked one, the couch to 5K. Couch to 5K, yes. Before I broke my knee. Woke your knee, yeah. Does there a break to knee, does it not break to knee? There should be. All right, well that's it. Remember to go to blog about arkazinc.com. Remember to leave. Remember to use discuss on the blog to leave us comments. We're on the Twitter at Twitter.com slash justedlestein, Twitter.com slash Jason M. Atwood. I guess I can just say at Jason M. Atwood, right? I don't have to say Twitter.com, I just do at. He's justedm, I'm Jason M. Atwood. We're on the Twitter. We're on the Facebook for Arkus, just Arkus Inc, ARK US. I NC on Facebook now that's that's how it's spelled and We'll be back next week and for the next 48 or 9 weeks Hopefully hopefully with no vacations aliens We'll be back with another podcast.

Jason Atwood: I thought the Mayans got us. Yeah, I last one was on December 21st We made it through we'll see you in about a week's time until then As we always say, enjoy those cloudy days.