Double Millennial - Episode #200 of CloudFocus Weekly

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00:10 Jason Atwood: This is the 200th episode of CloudFocus Weekly for the first week of December 2014. This episode is titled... double millennial. CloudFocus Weekly is brought to you by clone this user. Clone an existing Salesforce user with a click of button via the desktop or in Salesforce One mobile. Available for free on the AppExchange or just go to clonethisuser.com and it'll bring you right to the AppExchange listing. I'm your host Jason Atwood, 200 times in, joining me, co-host. way too many podcasts together, Edelstein. How many? Two, oh, total?

Justin Edelstein: Total. It's a little more than that. Is it? Okay, it's close,

Jason Atwood: Something like that. That was really close. It was good though, that's off top. 200 of these. 200 plus whatever the other one is, 230.

Justin Edelstein: Well I think we've had... some lost episodes there have been we've recorded years and years from now 30 years from now will be will be you know the like the basement tapes are now you know the lost tapes coming out Bob Dylan and the band basement tapes they're putting out The Lost Tapes. Yeah, you just lost half this. No,

Jason Atwood: 99.9% of this audience. That.01,

Justin Edelstein: I just got a lot of respect from. It's you. You're the.01. We're going to put out the CloudFocus Weekly, the Lost Tapes. The Lost episodes? And there'll be like three of them.

Jason Atwood: That's not going to happen. Mmm. So yeah, we made it to 200. We have an agenda, a big agenda, 200 strong. Well, I guess we could talk about it. We just did talk about 200. Maybe we'll go a little bit more on that.

Justin Edelstein: We can talk a little note you put in there about 200.

Jason Atwood: The best times of our lives. We have two blog posts to catch up on. We did some... We've been getting into NGO Connect a little bit. I think we should just talk about what it is and maybe just give a little bit of information. I know there's people out there who use it or are thinking about using it. Maybe we'll just give a little info. We attended a David Allen live GTD seminar, which I'd like to talk about because I'm a big fan. Then we'll wrap it up with some CloudFocus app. of apps of the week and you actually have one there. So you've actually done your homework, which is good. I've done a little bit of homework. So 200, eh? Eh. So by the way, we made a poll in the Salesforce Success Community Group, Cloud for.

Jason Atwood: CloudFocus Weekly success community group where we said should we make a big deal about 200 or not and you said not Let's make a big deal about 250 which would be about a year from now. So like next December. It'll be about 2 fifth That's what I said. All right, so the other people today, but I think everybody voted basically the same I mean, it was close. It's a close vote But so for our for our hundreds episode we did the now famous which you can get actually a copy of in the Success Community Group. We did the celebrating 100 episodes infographic. Which is hanging here in the studio, talking about our favorite episodes and things we've picked and et cetera, et cetera. So maybe we'll do that again. We gotta do something different for 250.

03:40 Jason Atwood: We'll come up with something. So we kinda feel like 200's a big deal, but then not really. Okay, well you come didn't think Don't okay.

Justin Edelstein: Well, then moving on. Well, I mean it's a big enough deal to like mention it on the show But for a daily podcast not a big deal a weekly podcast a Big deal. Well, like I said a hundred great I think 250 is the next number. The next logical number. Not 200. I think 250, then 500. And then 1,000.

Jason Atwood: Trust me, there will be no 1,000th episode of CloudFocus Weekly. What are you trying to say? Oh man, I'm just telling you. It took us, well, so we started in July of 2010. So it's taking us four and a half years to get to 200. So to get to a thousand, that means, this is a long time, what, eight to 12 something years? Yeah, it's gonna take a little while. Yeah, that's gonna take a while. I don't think I'll be podcasting in my 50s. Although maybe you'll be doing the next, whatever that thing is. The thing that's beyond podcasts. Yeah. So we don't have anything special planned for this episode. We're just gonna do a normal episode I'm just looking at this poll that we put out. Yeah. Oh, man. That's gonna be like very deep.

Jason Atwood: Yes. Okay Well, don't talk about until you find it.

Justin Edelstein: All right, so four people Agreed with me 250 250 is the big deal for whole people or people well that was really votes in these polls There's more comments than votes.

Jason Atwood: That's always the case I do want to remind you, so I want to make an apology. We are still in the process of working out all the kinks with the new host. Since this is a weekly podcast, we can only kind of look at whether it happens or not weekly, so whether it works or not. I think the main issue is that the subscribe link that some podcasting apps have used is sort of the one that was hosted on the old hosting provider. And that the one that should be using is the Google, the FeedBurner one. The FeedBurner one is the one that will stay forever because it's independent of wherever we go. So I think what's happened is people subscribe to the one that was locked into CashFly. So all that being said... We're still working on it.

Jason Atwood: It should work itself out, or you just have to go back and resubscribe. iTunes is working, is functional now. Like when something goes new to iTunes, it's there. So if you're subscribing to iTunes, it'll work. I think it's the places that are not iTunes. Well, that's a shame. But I don't know where they get, Because more and more people are going away from iTunes for podcasts. But I don't know where they get there, but that's the thing. I don't know where Downcast, in which I use, and Instacastle, I don't know where they use as their. I use Instacast. But where do they use as their. As their sort of library.

Justin Edelstein: I don't know. Alright, don't look at it now. Well, I was just gonna look and see if I had the most recent episode in Instacast. Right. Just because, you know, let me take a look. I actually don't. Right.

06:43 Jason Atwood: Because if you look at your feed, I think it's the feed of the old catch fly feed. 197. It's the cash fly feed. So anyway, so we'll figure that out. I don't know how to get them to sort of refresh where they point the feed.

Justin Edelstein: Maybe I have to. A little weird because the other one is updated.

Jason Atwood: Well, we made that change a year ago. Oh, that's true. Yeah. Okay. So we apologize. We'll make it work. The best way is just to go to cloudfocusweekly.com. because that way you can't miss. It's a non-miss. You're gonna land on a website and you can listen to it. iTunes is now fixed. We'll figure out these other ones. I don't know if I have to tell them independently, like, hey, change where you're pointing your feed for this show. If I have to do that, I'm not happy. It was not as smooth as the other one. Let's say. Yeah, QA. Not true, not found. We didn't QA this. Well, honestly, come on. The honest truth is, the other app, the app you're using to publish, Stop working so we either could have taken a couple months to figure it out or you just moved so we moved quickly because otherwise no podcast is listening already knows this and

Justin Edelstein: Everyone who isn't listening is not listening because they don't know because they don't know They think this is dead.

Jason Atwood: That's right Very good. Hopefully they're falling on Twitter in some ways elsewhere. They'll figure it out. All right So let's talk we have two blog posts in the hopper, which I think of both One's a little fluffy, but one's actually I wrote one of these so I hope not mine. I hope mine's the one. It's a good one. Saying that you wrote one of these is a little bit not true. That is my idea.

Justin Edelstein: Not even true. Definitely my idea.

Jason Atwood: Okay. Well, let's talk about the fluffy one first. Since it's just after Thanksgiving. It is. Just celebrated Thanksgiving. So this one is top 10 reasons to be grateful for Salesforce in 2014. This is like a big thing.

Justin Edelstein: This is what the top 10 reason to be thankful for. The thankful for Salesforce thing. Like people have been tweeting this and in the community it's like, what are you thankful for Salesforce for this year and like other people, you know, some feature or something or whatever. So anyway, we had our little top 10 list.

Jason Atwood: For things that were grateful for Salesforce. I like it. It's like the list. So we didn't write this, obviously, one of the other, the person who should never be named wrote it. I like that one, like number one is giving back, feeding the hungry. So that's like a big thing. But number eight today in Salesforce one, how could you even have those two things in the same list?

Justin Edelstein: They're so far apart, though. One in eight. No, they're in the same list. Anyway, duplication blocking, come on.

Jason Atwood: That didn't even make the list. It didn't even make the list. Territory management 2.0 makes the list. So anyway, go to blog.arcasync.com and you can read the top 10 reasons to be grateful for Salesforce in 2014. I have already, so just as a pre-pre-pre-cursor, because I'm way ahead of the game, I've already written my predictions for two thousand and I already, 15. I already read it. I know and you've already read it. So it won't come out for a bit because I do a yearly predictions, my fifth year doing my predictions, cloud computing predictions for 2015. I will say last year I was on fire. I'm hoping that I can get as many this year right, but well done. It was pretty, pretty hot. I mean, they weren't exactly on target, but they were close.

10:05 Jason Atwood: They were like near misses. I grazed the guys. But the other podcast that's on blog.arcasync.com, one of the few last ones for 2014, I think we have what, two, three more left? Not mine. Two maybe?

Justin Edelstein: Well, mine's the last one. There's one, two, three, three or four. Three, OK.

Jason Atwood: Came from a... Came from I guess me you says your idea But when you do it, it's a kind of a painful thing to do which is that if you have like an old Salesforce org and Let's say you have your administrator has been around for a And so when disabling them, you know, you could think, oh, well, it's just as easy as go quick, you know, click the active checkbox and hit save. Not so much. There's lots of considerations that you should think about. And, you know, maybe like even a process. So I've had to do this for a couple times. I had to do it when you left the company that shall not be named. True. Although I just kicked it up to premiere support and had them do it. You guys do it.

Justin Edelstein: That was when they would do things like that.

Jason Atwood: Right, and I said, well, it was really all these scheduled, you had tons and tons of scheduled reports and dashboards, and I didn't want to go change them all. I was just everywhere in that game. Yeah, so like it was a pain to get you out. That was like the good old days. I had to use some like, like... RID or something like you were lice checklist for disabling a Salesforce system administrator, the So if you want to save yourself some time, I mean, Salesforce kind of will tell you, I mean, obviously when you try to search says you can't just say that. And it gives you like links and things. So some of them give you links, right?

Justin Edelstein: Like this is the default workflow user or, you know, I'm going to look at the blog and see all the list. Yeah. Web to lead, lead, lead, lead to main main company contact. It won't I don't think it prevents you because that's just. Like, isn't it just text or is it actually a lookup to you? It is text.

Jason Atwood: But there's things like, so this is a good list to A, go through, but B, you have handy because now you can freeze a user, obviously, so they can stop at max, but before this, like if you really wanted to boot someone off, you had to go through this list and fast because they were still active until you un-cooked that trickity box, quickity box.

Justin Edelstein: Yeah. The trick was... Once the two-factor or the challenging came in, the trick was to change their username, or change something about the user and then reset the password. Then they couldn't get in. But now you can just freeze them. Now you just freeze. Freeze and go.

13:15 Jason Atwood: So good. A good list. Then actually in the success community if you go find the premiere support person He posted his actual list that he's, been using he doesn't work premiere support so big shout out to him and he posted in the success community

Justin Edelstein: So you can, have that his actual book marked it did you you know I made a mistake You know what I didn't realize you couldn't a but mark comments Even though it has- the email alert that she got.

Jason Atwood: I'm sorry every time you use that phrase doesn the the mind then have that person composure

Justin Edelstein: Like context around certain things like maybe why you're doing this okay might have been one or two things on there that that were I mean in my mind not really necessary to do so like they wouldn't prevent you from deactivating somebody the prevent things from working okay they were more like nice to do things you walk into a lot of orgs you see like there's a dashboard that's not running as like this yeah that I that's a pet peeve like you see that one component of the dashboard that's like Has the red label in it red label. This report is being run using an inactive user

16:35 Jason Atwood: Let's let's talk,

Justin Edelstein: This was number three on the top 10 right? Salesforce 2014. Number three? Number three.

Jason Atwood: Like there's like feeding the hungry. There's something else. Connect. There's giving back. There's Al Gore. And then there's. Connect. That's the most most. the., and,, I air So true Cloud B bag chairs cloud B bag chairs, you know Mars San Francisco homeless people Some

Justin Edelstein: It's terrible, but it is what well reason why it was cuz it It's always the same, so I wanted to skip a year. Because it's like insert person performing this year. Insert special keynote speaker. Insert other special keynote speaker.

Jason Atwood: Insert traditional thing that happens at Dreamforce. Insert keynote.

Justin Edelstein: Insert expo. You know, it's like, all right, you got 8 of the 10. So, like, you can think of two. Yeah, so I wanted to skip it one year. And a lot of other people write that same post and it's always the same. So I was like, eh, it's kind of like whatever. But being thankful. Anyway, it's number three on this list. I'll even, before we get into the whole like what we did and all that. I don't even have to get into that. We can just get it. You wrote, you know, the Nonprofit Starter Pack offered by the Foundation is a great platform for most nonprofits. And it's been recently enhanced to version 3.0, which has added a lot of nice functionality. Which we wrote a blog post about. Which we did. And it is just that though, it's a starter pack, right?

Justin Edelstein: It's for fundraising departments that are getting, for the most part, their 10 free Salesforce licenses as part of the doing basic fundraising, getting off of spreadsheets, getting off of a Google Drive sort of hooked together solution and just moving to a more structured environment in Salesforce. And it's a pretty nice beginning and entrance way into doing Fundraising and for the most part you can run You can run the department with the non-profit starter pack and not much of a customization to it

19:36 Jason Atwood: But when it's got some but 3.0 has got some yes, it has very cool things, right? It's not just like Renaming you know tabs and labeling and stuff like that. It's it's got to go a lot of functionality Relationship stuff it's got some good address stuff going on Really nice stuff with some of them.

Justin Edelstein: I mean, they're doing some nice stuff. But it's free. It's open source. Free, open source series of installable packages, so on and so forth. But if you have more complicated needs than what the nonprofit starter pack. will provide out of the box, you can obviously always build something on top of Number of its starter pack, you can always build something on Enterprise Edition. You can always plug in third party products that are out there that do for example, online, online fundraising, online donation forms that handle payment processing, not part of the non-profit starter pack. You don't get that right, right? But they work perfectly well with their built to work with a non non-profit Use third-party products that Integrate seamlessly

Jason Atwood: With, and what you're saying under the cook is that there's there's some sort of pay model to them Maybe they have some sort of free maybe they have limits maybe that whatever but

Justin Edelstein: They're basically They're third-party companies third-party companies and they're making money, right? Whether they are handling the transaction fee for you or whether you're paying for their product as a subscription or you're buying something, either way they're not part of the free non-profit starter pack. But just like any other app exchange product, they could be free. They could, you know, they have pricing models. Same goes for like managing volunteers managing events. The stuff is not Native to the nonprofit starter pack you have to find third-party products to plug in to do some of those things or build it yourself so Along came NGO connect NGO connect was product called Round Cause from a company called Round Corner. Yes, got that all right, yes.

Jason Atwood: Yes, it's the Omni Group sense of naming. You take your name, which is Omni Group, and then name everything Omni Something. Omni Graffle, OmniFocus, Omni Whatever, Omni Notes, Omni. Round Something, so Round Cause.

Justin Edelstein: He's now NGO Connect and is offered by Salesforce two non-for-profits to do higher-end fundraising and development for larger organizations with bigger budgets that raise lots and lots of money and have lots and lots of constituents. and need to manage very complicated relationships with those constituents, whether it be memberships, large grants, and like large individual... But do you... so,

22:42 Jason Atwood: I'm sorry, go on, but don't... and I know... Very little about this subject matter. That's not true But don't you feel like it's not so much the size of the giving or the number of people that they're tracking? But it's the feature set that they want to do because I don't I know both I would say I know at this point I think I might know NGO connect a little bit better than I know Proper start back three because I haven't played around with it Although I do owe my PTA an upgrade Don't you feel like, it's not like, you could run a perfectly good nonprofit that takes million dollar donations and run it in non-profit startup activities.

Justin Edelstein: To me it has nothing to do with the number of people that necessarily work at the nonprofit, but I feel like it's the complexity of the way that you... raise money.

Jason Atwood: So digging that. So what would be something complex that you couldn't do a non-profit starter pack but you could do an NGO connect? So if you have,

Justin Edelstein: A, if you have lots of constituents. When it comes down to having a complicated board situation across different chapters that have their own boards and each board member is responsible for raising a certain amount of money, it starts

Jason Atwood: To get a little complicated with nonprofit starter packs. Isn't that feature driven because NGO Connect has features that handle that? better. Well, I mean, that can do that. It's just not a start back doesn't do that very well, doesn't do it very well. So it's, so it's more of a feature.

Justin Edelstein: You have to kind of soft credit it somehow and identify a board member. You have to build a way to identify a board member and then build a way to, to sort of roll that up to them as a soft credit as like a board member contact roll or something. But even like keeping track of who is a board member is not something that nonprofit starter pack to me does 100% great like it can obviously do it and you can totally like type somebody as a as a board member, right? Or tag them somehow But that's just kind of an example. I feel like when you get to the point where you have recurring stuff, NGO Connect handles much better than Nonprofit Starter Pack. Recurring stuff that should be charged to a credit card, NGO Connect handles really well, right?

Justin Edelstein: If you just say, you know what, charge me 25 bucks every month in perpetuity, charge it to my visa. NGO Connect handles that, like a, you know, that's a nice feature. That's what it does. Nonprofit Starter Pack doesn't handle that at all. Right. So, you know, there's some higher end things that you might want to offer and not really offer, but like do as a fundraising department say, yeah, if you want to pay us $25 every month in perpetuity, I can just put that into my system and forever it will just charge you $25 every month as opposed to the way you'd have to do that with nonprofit starter bags like Okay, you have to figure out who's gonna to process that payment on the credit card side So who's my merchant and how do I get that data into Salesforce every month?

26:19 Justin Edelstein: Right and then how do I get that over to my finance team properly like It just doesn't handle it as well as NGO Connect would handle that. That's just one scenario.

Jason Atwood: So from a layman standpoint, if you're going to look at the two, and Nonprofit Starter Pack 3.0,

Justin Edelstein: A great free starter piece that has lots of good features. Great stuff. and great little applications that people are writing. that sit on top of it, that work really well with it, to handle allocations of donations that are split across programs and program years. People have written applications for that. To handle that kind of stuff really nicely. People have handled the put a credit card terminal right inside of Nonprofit Starter Pack. So like. There are things out there that you can do that make it, that beef it up a little bit. And GeoConnect is like, here it is, it's a product, it's got a full suite suite of things and it has a road map that is being worked on constantly. Non-profit starter pack's on 3.0, it's been around for a long time, it's constantly getting little tweaks here and there, but to be like, oh here's the new 3.0 in.

Jason Atwood: You know been seven years. I think it's been a long time, right? Okay open source mean again It's only as good as the people who are you know sort of paying attention

Justin Edelstein: To it You know we say open source. I don't know if it's managed or unmanaged at this point.

Jason Atwood: I feel like No, I mean that I think the code base is open source meaning any it sits on my use would be that's for sure I don't know if it is or isn't you can do it the other I don't I think doing it the other way pulling Things out of open source is not a bet people get angry. Alright, so cool, I mean I think, again, I don't really wanna go, so we as the two of us actually deep-dived into it, we went to a partner enablement, we sat through training, we actually installed it. So Seattle. In Seattle. Space Needle. We went to Space Needle, we could post those pictures, that was fun. Oh, we ate some good food. Oh, that night. Thank you. We went on our bro date.

Justin Edelstein: Yeah, that was so much fun, we had so much good food.

Jason Atwood: But I just kind of wanted to bring it up as something that we're, you know, it's, it's in the universe of Salesforce. It's a weird relationship. Salesforce does these types of, you know, Salesforce in the past, the last. Well, many, many years, as far back as I can remember, has been in this sort of buying mode with a buy, buy, buy, buy. This is a company that they haven't bought, but they've sort of partnered with for a product that works only within Salesforce that they used to sort of sell themselves and now Salesforce is kind of saying, okay. It works so well that we're gonna kind of make it as part of something that we then sell for you guys. You guys just do the development of it. So it's a little bit, it's a strange relationship.

Jason Atwood: We'll see how it works out. And, but I think it's interesting for the, you know, for the people in the non-profits. space to know that there are, it's kind of, you know, you get more, it's like the premium model, right?

29:29 Justin Edelstein: Here's the thing. There's a couple of different even versions of NGO Connect, right? There's a NGO Connect is comprised of several packages that make up the full suite of NGO Connect. So you don't actually need. The whole thing, if you don't want to do the whole shabang, you can do pieces of it. And it's not,

Jason Atwood: And the only thing I would say that, oh, there's lots of downsides to it that I've seen so far, but the one thing I was thinking is, it's not a, and I just, cause I said freemium, freemium usually means you start with X and then you go up to Y. Like I could start with professional edition and I could call up Salesforce, handle a little, handle more money. and then they would then book me up to enterprise. And it would literally take, it takes seconds and it just happens overnight. And it's a pretty easy thing. This is not that way. These are two separate products. They don't interact with each other. They don't wanna live next to each other. They're not friends. So you do have to kind of choose one or the other. And if you're gonna move from one to the other, it's a move.

Jason Atwood: It's like you leave the house. and you take all your furniture out of the house and then you move it to the other house. That's not a flip a switch, install some scripts and away you go. So anyway, I just wanted, I think it's interesting to talk about bringing up, we cover this stuff now and again. We obviously do a lot of work in the nonprofit space. And so something that we have been... Kept our eye on. fan, which is getting things done, productivity, methodology written by David Allen over 15 years ago. We got a chance to go and actually see him speak and do a one day seminar. It was a beginner seminar, so it was kind of like, for me at least, it was a little like, oh, everything you're saying I... At one point I turned to someone else who was there and I said, oh, you're gonna love this story.

Jason Atwood: Because I knew he was about to go into like the story of X. Like I've heard it so many times. So, but I thought it was just, it was just interesting. It was nice to see him. It's one of those, like I wanted to see Steve Jobs like do a keynote and I didn't get to. I definitely put on my list and I actually do keep a bucket list. I wanted to go see David Allen. I want to see him speak. I want to go see him live in person. I got to meet him. We have talked a little bit really exciting. Getting things done, sort of the 15 year in how things have changed. I don't know if it's like going to be called something different. I don't know if it's just going to be a reboot.

Jason Atwood: I don't know if it's going to. more things get it anymore. Well, he's written three other books getting things done better making it all work was supposed to be his sort of

Justin Edelstein: Like getting things done to point out let me let me not talk about file folders You know more theory in a box right that I rotate every day right label label makers me not talk about my manila folder called calls that's

32:45 Jason Atwood: A very, good paperback in it that you think that, has a person's name on it that you take out that list and you make those phone calls and that's it because I'm sitting next to my phone so it'll be interesting I mean again we'll maybe we'll talk about when it comes out I'll definitely read it prospective

Justin Edelstein: Will you listen to it or will you read it or will you do both

Jason Atwood: I will probably read it first, then once he brings, then he wants, because audio usually comes out after. Oh, I don't know. Yeah. Yeah, you don't read so books come out first Cuz you don't cuz usually you you wait to redo it and depending on how much different it is Again, I'm kind of interested. Is it gonna be like Like is he gonna add like a chapter called the 2015 chapter or is he going to just, or is it gonna be like going through and... That wouldn't make sense to be like the 2015 chapter.

Justin Edelstein: That should just be like an e-book.

Jason Atwood: If that's the case, I'd be upset at him. Yeah, I don't know. Here's the whole book. It's the same, but I added a chapter. No, no, no, but sometimes they'll take a book and then they'll just rewrite, not rewrite it for... full content, but rewrite it looking for the things like talking about manila folders, and he'll just change it or talk about trios and you know, palm pilots, and he'll change it to, you know, search and replace for iPhone. Right? Yeah, I don't think it's that I think it's gonna bring in a little more theory about sort of the modern take on GTD after doing it for you know, now, now having that book be out there 15 years. Anyway, It was great. I really enjoyed it just from an experience standpoint. And that's it.

Jason Atwood: Oh, and I have a success group called Getting Things Done. If you want to join in, also it's a fun stuff. Alright, so let's talk, before we get onto our CloudFocus app, let's talk a little bit about our upcoming schedule. We are getting close to the end of the year, so I think we probably have two, maybe three more podcasts in us.

Justin Edelstein: I know that I will be gone the week of the 22nd. So that week we will not be doing a podcast, but you know what we might do on like the week of the 29th It's 29 30 or 31st

Jason Atwood: You're very quiet I'm I'm coming back from Miami. Oh, where are you gone? I'm going so I'm going to Miami on when the 20 Thanks everybody 26 to the 31st.

Justin Edelstein: All right, so we probably Cool so we'll do two more for the happy new year one now We'll do when we get back maybe we just record one and just say like happy new year And that's all that says it's like you hearing this we fix the feed Yeah, we can do that.

Jason Atwood: All right, so let's do, we also have, we also have some news, we'll try to go through more newsy news, and we definitely have blog posts coming out, it's a weird time of year, maybe we can talk about some of the holiday stuff that's going on. Okay. I'd like to do something like top 10. Tech gifts you're looking forward to or something like that, but I don't know maybe we can't get ourselves in for that So let's do some crowd focus at pick of the week Let's give me your pick of the week did this in advance which is so surprising did

36:08 Justin Edelstein: This just cuz I think it's like sort of cool, but it's Its usefulness is questionable.

Jason Atwood: I'm sure Nick will be very happy that you're saying its usefulness is questionable.

Justin Edelstein: Well, I'm not sure it's like... unless I'm missing something.

Jason Atwood: So anyway, it's just... By the way, as you get things over the holidays and whatever holiday you celebrate, Start to think about, ooh, I got this thing, I now have a pick of the week. So then you probably should have like three or four or five weeks. The last thing is a pick.

Justin Edelstein: Like I know what I'm getting from my wife and it's not gonna be a pic make it a pic It's not a pic make it a pic not know things aren't apps Those are things you make things a pic. What if this hat was again? I got this hat this hat is a pic It's a terrible hat you don't my hat don't take my hat don't pick. It's terrible my cup of tea No.

Jason Atwood: It's a pick. No, no, no. Someone got me a gift certificate to the tea store. Alright, keep going. Let's hear this highly questionable thing. Well, it's called Trust Reader.

Justin Edelstein: Okay. And it does kind of, if you know it, if you know Salesforce or anything, you kind of can guess what it does. It reads... In a mobile app, so here it is, I'm showing it to you. It reads the RSS feeds from trust.salesforce.com for all of the, and I'm just clicking on some of these, for all of the pods. Okay, yes, and you click on, the Mia ones, Nana ones. So I clicked on Nana 8, because That's the one that we're on. And like, if I were to look at this, I would think we're in this yellow state of scheduled maintenance beginning. Right. That there's scheduled maintenance beginning at 2 a.m. Okay, fine. And then this one is right below it that there's a performance degradation. But when I go to trust, it's all green.

Justin Edelstein: And these don't these don't have date timestamps on them. So I don't know when this might when this update is. This might be your best idea. and I kind of want Nick to hear this because I'm kind of giving them a few deals be a yes yeah I mean it's free so it's worth a download it's kind of neat he just Slap together like a little reader for trust so you can have trust on the go on your phone doesn't tell you what's going on It doesn't do a very great job of to wait. Hey, maybe greatest pick 14 it's no spring. It's like it's like the you know, let's call it v1 of this app that could be very useful But right now totally. It's just I just I'm really good someday ahead of the curve on that one.

Justin Edelstein: All right Anyway, I could I was and I think Android right the iOS version It's called trust reader for Salesforce. You can get it out in the app store for free. Nice.

Jason Atwood: I could Talk about the greatest pick of 2014, which is the thing that you're absolutely addicted to Let me tell you something.

39:12 Justin Edelstein: So let's talk about it a little bit. You got me this this Madden game that you're that I think a couple of weeks ago. No, no, no. So. I went a looking and EA Sports has put out a bunch of games like this now. So FIFA is also like the same idea as this Madden. game. So I think the whole notion of it is you start off with a team that's kind of. Full of nobodies. We'll talk in context of Madden here. So, you know, you pick your favorite football team. Yes, you pick a team start. with basically not, it's no, they're not the players on that team. They're just random players. They're the one or two that are from that team. Oh, they're crappy if they are. Yeah, they are. And well, I mean, and they're team and they're, you know, you basically have to build your roster over time by making, you know, moves and getting accumulating points and coins and all sorts of stuff.

Justin Edelstein: And it gets very addicting. It's got a very cool like. through Facebook connection to friends and you can play against people. You can join leagues and create rivalries and go through seasons and win the Super Bowl and. Get players and all sorts of fun stuff. Very cool. And FIFA, like I said, same thing. Free game. They have another one. Yeah. And that's a huge game like on the iPad. And I started up like a thing with the club. So I have this club team. It's like. try to buy a team if you want, if you're, you know, really rich buy a team and then If you're, you know, if you're really rich buy a team and then you can do it. a you at a let, on Jeffent Ski It mixes a couple things.

Jason Atwood: It mixes the sort of old school being young and like collecting cards, like baseball cards basically. They do have football cards and I do have football cards but basically collecting cards. You get the Aaron Rodgers card, you get the Drew Brees card and then you flip around, you see their skills. And you know. There's that, then there's the sort of, I guess, Pokemon, like, they'll have numbers, and so they're like, this card is rated better than that card. But then, you get to put those cards, those players, on your team, and play with them in real. And they're actually people. In a video game. In a video game. Then the better part of that is, you get to throw them onto your. your team so if you're like we are both Jets fans and So right now our season is a pile of poo But I get to have I get to play this this team that it's a video game that I'm playing with that I'm you know going down the field scoring with that's There's no way to infatuated with this game.

43:07 Jason Atwood: So anyway, I'm so happy because I have made you I've given you something that has just sucked so much

Justin Edelstein: Upsetting was that when you did write your pick on here? Yeah, I was upset by it Why cuz I was gonna pick it. Oh, really? Yeah, you have tons of pics.

Jason Atwood: I do So Again on the game vacation, I guess this is the time of season If you are if you do not play fantasy football, please turn off the podcast now right now I'll give you two seconds. Goodbye. Bye-bye. See you next week. All right, those cloudy days. All right, so for everybody else who's a fantasy football player, you know that week 14 is either you're in the playoffs and you're having a good time or you're completely out and you got nothing to nothing to hope for. Maybe you're gonna keep it a league, you're thinking about what you're gonna keep for next year. So what you're saying is, if you're you,

Justin Edelstein: You got nothing to hold forward. That's right. But if you're me, on the other hand... Are you in the playoffs in every one of you leagues? I'm a single league. Oh, that's terrible. It's so...fantastic. So this is not for you. So,

Jason Atwood: Again, you can't turn on the TV without seeing these things now. There's the...football kings, or what is it, fantasy kings? There's... and there's that one and there's then there's this one fan dual so what I'm picking is because I actually played fan dual last year and one of things I didn't like about it was that the mobile there wasn't a mobile for it it was just a website right now there's fan dual for fan dual mobile or for iOS and if you just want to you know waste money but have fun on the weekend because you get to play these one week whatever You know, they had one, the one I did was, there's a night, I don't do them during the season. They did the Thanksgiving one. The Thanksgiving 1.2 million dollar, you know, whatever.

Jason Atwood: We all did that one. And $25 in. But anyway, it's kind of fun. There is a, I don't understand, there's definitely a theory to it. And it's not just going and pick players. There's something about like, you have to pick, you have to find the two guys that hit it. and then you're okay. You can't put together just a good team. You have to put together the best team that ever played for that week. We're not gonna get into how the whole thing works. Right, but anyway, so if you're a fan-dual player, you probably don't know this. If you don't know what fan-dual is, it's one week, one week fantasy games. It's very addicting. Big market. It's not as addicting as Madden Mobile, but it's a huge market. They are putting, I do not understand how the NFL.

Justin Edelstein: Doesn't see this as gambling. How is this not gambling? It's not gambling the same way that we pay for our Sportsline fantasy league Which sports line fantasy league?

Jason Atwood: The one that we're at the CBS that is gambling. So the NFL doesn't see that as gambling They don't allow you to win money Do you ever see on the sports line was like you just won tons of money? You can't do the money the money is the thing that makes a gambling make you pay for it Yeah, you're paying to play a game. No low low look NFL's Thing they don't make you That there's no winning of money winning of money means gambling ESPN one There's like

46:12 Justin Edelstein: A whole like thing like how to handle your money thing Yeah, like a service like but we'll handle the money things like it's

Jason Atwood: All kind of illegal Anyway, I just don't know how the fan dole gets away with prizes probably cuz there are some

Justin Edelstein: Offshore companies from somewhere that's allowed to do gambling, but then they're all over the NFL's anyway So anyway fan dole fly west if you play fan dole All right a new one to this new one something daily MVP a bit hypocritical when comes to certain things Yeah, we're not gonna be NFL Let's get into leading the podcast.

Jason Atwood: All right, so well, you can follow Justin at Just That'll Steam me at Jason at Mattwood, ArcaSync, Facebook.com slash ArcaSync, Success Community, LinkedIn, Google+, subscribe on iTunes and Stitcher is working. I'm sorry for the downcast, which I'm actually user and Instacast users. I think it's because it has the wrong feed. I will contact them, guys, update. So, otherwise just go to cloudfolksweely.com. We'll see you next week. It's Justin and Jason saying enjoy those cloudy days.

Justin Edelstein: Thank you.