Sum It Up - Episode #178 of CloudFocus Weekly

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00:10 Jason Atwood: This is the 178th episode of CloudFocus Weekly for the second week of June 2014. This episode is titled Sum It Up. CloudFocus Weekly is brought to you by Arkus, specializing in Salesforce implementations, consulting, and force.com development. search for Arkus on the AppExchange, that's A-R-K-U-S, and read what our clients have to say about us. I am, as always, your host, Jason Atwood, and joining me for 178 times in a row consistently is Justin Edelstein. That was a dramatic pause.

Justin Edelstein: Was it gonna be anyone else?

Jason Atwood: You know, I've been searching for a no, go for it Do it. I don't know if I don't know if that will if the listeners will be happy with that so no listeners would revolt and You'd have no more listeners. I did have someone mentioned to me recently that they they I thought that I was gonna give a shot to do like a solo podcast I've listened to solo podcasts and I just find them kind of odd like they just kind of rant and rant and rant and rant and rant You know reminds me of the guy in Sirius XM. He does Shiner he'll like do like an hour Adam shine. Yeah, he'll just He'll do an hour of just ranting,

Justin Edelstein: Randomly ranting. He won't take phone calls or anything. He'll just talk and talk and talk. He does a good half an hour of like, and this and this. With nobody to bounce anything off of.

Jason Atwood: And then eventually, but he's got it for, he's got it for four hours. He does like an hour's first rant.

Justin Edelstein: Anyway, I don't think it works out. I know a lot of sports talk radio shows and other talk radio, like. They'll do their monologue, but then they go into callers and interviews and other stuff so that it's not just the personality. I just like the personalities.

Jason Atwood: I'm hoping that's why people listen to this because people don't know who's who. Oh, that's true. So I'm Jason, even though I say that every single time, and you're Justin, even though I said that every single time.

Justin Edelstein: I'm this one and you're that one. I've said it 178 times.

Jason Atwood: So if you don't know who we are, I don't think our voices are that. That's all I got. that close. Me neither. Maybe I speak like this now. That would be frightening. That was Jason, by the way. All right, so let's get to our agenda. We have a a slurry, a slew, a plethora of blogs that we're going to quickly go over just because they're not the kind of topical, but not really. So we're going to mention them. We have a little bit of the things that we can talk about from the MVP summit. We're going to talk a little bit about the MVP program and what, what we learned at the summit that we can talk about.

Justin Edelstein: I didn't even know we were allowed to talk about the MVP summit. You know what the problem is? But then they post all the stuff over the internet. I am not sure what I'm allowed and not allowed to talk about. So I'm not going to talk much during that session.

Jason Atwood: I don't want to say something. Well I mean they literally posted videos and things And just pictures of people But it basically says who's there and what they did So I can talk about the high level stuff Noobie And then what we ignored last week because it just happened was WWDC And now it's been a week There's actually been It's actually been some stuff plus there's been an Apple stock split not that that's very important But we can talk about sort of the Apple stuff maybe now that the week and a half has gone by like what have What have you picked up out of it? What have you heard about? What have you been excited about? Maybe read about. And then we'll call it a day. If you are listening going, why are they not talking about summer 14?

03:50 Jason Atwood: That's next week. So next week we're gonna talk all summer 14. In fact, we won't, because we'll have at that point two blog posts about. Summer 14 and Justin might have finished the notes and so therefore I love that you both mentioned it And it's a national notes. No you finished notes. Okay good, and then we'll talk we'll go mom. No summer 14 lot of notes Okay, big note. So let's just talk about the two blog posts the first one again just for those who don't know Arkus consulting company we do a lot of business in the the banking space. And so one of our things has been people have been asking, actually our clients, which is interesting, they're asking us to write blog posts. But like we want you to focus in on some of the things that we're interested in, not so much summer 14 or not so much, you know, Jitterbit versus Data.io or whatever.

Jason Atwood: So we've been writing a couple, and when I say we, I mean me, I've been writing a couple that have been sort of in this genre, if you will. So again, not just a few, but if you're listening to the blog, you can go read them. But up on blog.arcasync.com is one that I wrote a couple weeks back called Calculating Bank Customer Profitability in Salesforce One. First thing I want to mention is Salesforce 1. So you're probably thinking, wow, Salesforce 1, the mobile application that's that betting off announced, you know, back at Dreamforce, really going to do custom profitability in the mobile app. That seems so kind of strange. Why would you just do the mobile app? Well here's the thing kids, and I don't think they've even said this, but they've said it.

Jason Atwood: The Salesforce one is their new name for everything.

Justin Edelstein: It And you're not saying anything you're gonna say nothing about this nothing about it. I mean it's It was it was coming. I mean, did you not see that coming? Did you really face better renaming the company? I didn't rename the company. They renamed the platform Did you not really see that coming? Did you think it was just gonna be the mobile app with salesforce 1? Yeah, we're talking about it in terms of it being a one platform. Yeah,

Jason Atwood: But I just I guess, I don't know. I didn't think it sort of turned into a marketing thing.

Justin Edelstein: Again, it's just confusing. Well, I think they're trying to make it less confusing because you have Heroku, you have force.com, you have this, you have that, you have database.com, you have all these things. It's like exact target cloud. I mean, no, it's Salesforce one. It's all Salesforce.

Jason Atwood: Yeah, that's what that actually doesn't mean anything when it comes to Heroku and data.com and all those are actually very, very, very separate. So anyway, anyway, so I wrote this blog post, it's up, and then I wrote another one. I'm proficient. I didn't write it very recently because it took so long to get it published, but they happened to come out within four days of each other, two days of each other. This one is called three ways the Salesforce One platform helps banks succeed. Of course, it was kind of interesting that they did come out within two days each other. This one's on a different blog. This is blogs.salesforce.com. So this is their own blog. They actually produce a lot of content up there. But so this is not even on the front page now.

07:19 Jason Atwood: You kind of have to go to the older post because it came out on June 6. but Anyway, if you're interested on either one of those, search for them. One, go to blogs.blog.argosync.com. The other one, go to blogs.salesforce.company.com. And then there you can see that other one. And if you want to really see them, hit me up on Twitter and I'll post the link to you. So those- those are sort of our blogging. Again, we have other ones, but they're, they're, they're.. Summer 14 related so we're going to leave them for next week. We taught, so right on Leave it I feel like a by myself I could be doing this by myself Is being here a little I could be over there go You're doing a good job Talk I'm trying to watch the World Cup okay?

Jason Atwood: Yeah? I turn it off so you can watch it above my head Next up is the MVP Summit.

Justin Edelstein: This is another one I'm not going to talk about. No, I'm going to make you talk.

Jason Atwood: Tell me, what is the MVP program? Why are you going to make me just go into stuff that we've already talked about? Yeah, about a year and a half ago. We've never, we don't really, for someone who just picked up this podcast, I don't know. Three months ago. You might not know what the Salesforce MVP program is. I don't Google it Well, I am gonna Google it. Just I want about it well, well There's a

Justin Edelstein: Way to talk about it and then there's a way to like not talk about it and and and I want to get it Right. I want to talk about it correctly There's a way to come off wrong talking about the MVP program and there's a way to like Say exactly what it is. No is a way to read the marketing borb

Jason Atwood: Or the one talk about what it is What is it?

Justin Edelstein: It is a I'm literally gonna read it off the terrible. It's not terrible I mean next time here's my just to read the dictionary is why it's not terrible because there a there is a chatter post Today from the person who runs the MVP community specifically talking to us about Why or how to talk about the MVP Program and that is the first rule that you don't talk about the revenue Oh, but he he was very he was very straightforward And how he was saying you should refer to the materials when you're talking about the program as to not come off elitist or or what have you so I want to All right, can I give a shot before you read it then? If that didn't come to me today,

Jason Atwood: Can I give you a shot of what it is? Do whatever you want. I don't have to pull up an internet site. Do what you, an internet site? An internet site, it's on the interwebs. Is it on a billboard? It's in a tube. Is it on a piece of paper? The Salesforce MVV program is a recognition of outward facing people, so not their own internal people, who are very active in the community and help them spread the word.

10:53 Justin Edelstein: And Oh, geez.

Jason Atwood: So anyway, that's the way to talk about it. I don't think it's the only just thing about it. It's their ability to... No, that is the proper way to talk about it. Being active in the community, ideas, answers, chatters groups, all that stuff. It that you know you're the best coder. you a got in because they run some really good user some people got in because they're just very very some things I mean it's really- it's not not really a good thing. They don't even tell us exactly what it is. It's not like a club score where I can go look at, oh, you're 32.G But I don't know what the measurables are. it. There's a few more but that's the program and the last year in August they threw a they invited out a bunch of people that and be and sort of you know gave them some information and met with them and listened to the feedback and it's a lot about listening to the MVPs talk to the people who are kind of taking they in homeless shelters and without and ready to, they they they they they they they and they kids feel better about themselves because they're having a tough time because they're homeless.

13:57 Jason Atwood: I mean that's you know what there's no no other side to that. So anyway, nope. We did that. We also had we also had speakers come in that sort of goes in San Francisco. So we had speakers come in and talk to us. Product managers, product managers, others, other folks. We'll just leave it at that. And it was interesting because we got we got lots of time to sort of spend with them. And it was a two-way street. And I think I say this and I'm more talking about it because I think it's interesting that a company embraces that kind of, you know, not only embraces sort of these people who are very vocal. I mean, there could be a blowback from that. If nothing else.

Justin Edelstein: MVPs will give their opinion.

Jason Atwood: And they show us stuff and then they want us to feedback. My favorite meeting, I spent an hour, more than an hour, talking about the pros and cons of person accounts and the future of person accounts, and then being questioned about, well, what will we do here? And if you did this, would this be good? So it was kind of fun. You felt like you're in a little mini... ideation session even though you know I could say I want it purple and they'd be like yeah we're going back we're making it blue but it was it was interesting so again it's really the most I'm going to talk about it because again the things that you will see eventually we got fed we did get fed and it's great I think more of just I just want to throw kudos out public kudos out to the world of Salesforce and Matt Brown and Erica Cool who run the program and a couple others who I'm sure I know their names, but I don't know, sorry.

Jason Atwood: But they were the originals. Actually Matt used to be an MVP. That was kind of interesting. He's been hired on to Salesforce. That is correct. So they do a great job. It's a crazy program. My favorite question of them was have you, have you, from other places and apparently it's not just a Salesforce thing. There are similar things. Microsoft does something similar. Oh really? Yeah but it's a really... Do they have the passion though? I don't know. I don't know. I think that's what makes Salesforce unique in some ways because there is a there is a there's a culty aspect to it. There is a culty aspect to it. That's what they didn't want you to say. That's what it is. It says right there on the MVP thing. Please don't talk about something like a cult.

Jason Atwood: Don't say it. But they're right. I'm not talking about the MVP.

Justin Edelstein: Aspect of it relenting about like go to dream force right say you're not at a cult meeting right seriously try sitting there through a bending off keynote and say you're not being like indoctrinated like Kool-Aid being poured over your head no no they want us to make the Kool-Aid not pour it anymore

Jason Atwood: Anyway so a great program again a lot you know what what people have told me on and offline is that I will give the cheers to Salesforce when they do a great job and when they Something to something Like in spring spring 14. I'm gonna let them have it and I'm not gonna hold back Yeah, so anyway, this is a this is a cheer is not a jeers Cheers to them for this great program Would you've been involved in for three years now? Yeah and I'll see you next week. you All right, so that's that's it. I don't know the news I threw in here and this was kind of had to go with the Salesforce one Thing which was that they that there was a press release about salesforce releasing a Salesforce foundation Called Salesforce one for nonprofits and sort of it's part of this rebranding effort Mm-it came up a lot at the it was a big topic and that's why I kind of threw it into this You know, it's a rebranding.

17:51 Jason Atwood: It's And I think it's causing some confusion because again, it feels like it's productized when it's not really productized But that sort of came up I wanted to throw that into the conversation. Do you have nothing to say about that either? No, not really.

Justin Edelstein: I mean they I Mean the interesting part that I heard or and this is out there public. It's on get The foundation did a really, great job of putting a mobile UI framework out there for Salesforce one The mobile application, right? It's like they did a really nice job because they apparently had to you know Put some stuff in there for their mobile app like for the number of star pack and other pieces To really work very well so they, they put something together and threw it out there for folks to use as a framework for user interface for Salesforce one. So I thought that was interesting. Salesforce one, the application, Salesforce one mobile mobile. and really, I think again, it's, it's definitely a, it's definitely a rebrand of, you know, the connected nonprofit, right?

Justin Edelstein: The connected company, the connected non-profit. the executive director, the board, the patrons, it's using the vernacular, and it's- it's the same story just told in a little different way, I think. There's some other stuff with, you know, with some products that they've partnered with to really- round out the whole ecosystem. Round out. Very good. That was very good. You needed it. Actually did. Did not. I totally did because I was looking at the name of it. I said, ooh, round out.

Jason Atwood: They were going to corner it out. Corner the market with a new round. Corner the market. It rounded it out. So yeah,

Justin Edelstein: Good job, foundation, nice rebrand. Good timing, I think. We'll hear some big stuff at Dreamforce probably about the foundation. My guess is that they'll continue doing that stuff during the keynotes because it comes off well.

Jason Atwood: It really does. And it's a huge piece of their pie of users. I mean, it's not. Yes, it's a lot of people on that. A lot of people. You give away 10 licenses, free to every nonprofit, you get a lot of people using it. Well, you get a lot of people having licenses. And can't get away from it. And so we watched it. I then read I don't know both on the plane out there to the summit I read I rewatched it because it was just better to kind of I I was acting like a cry. It did. It did a little bit. So WWDC for those worldwide developers developers conference is the Apple yearly they used to do to these new Mac world and WWDC Macworld was run by someone else, but they used to do huge, huge announcements during it.

20:55 Jason Atwood: They used to be a huge sponsor. Then they kind of left it because they wanted to control their own fate. So they left WWDC. So it is a developers conference, but it's become this big thing. Microsoft does this. Facebook has theirs. I think they actually killed it for one year. Google has theirs. Right. So this is their time and it's become something that, you know, the tickets sell out in about 30 seconds.. It's expensive to go and it's for developers. It's not a place to go just to hang out. But they do announce a lot of stuff. And this one was huge. I mean, this WWDC had more in it in terms of announcement.

Justin Edelstein: If you thought the last WWDC was a piece of grunt, the last WWDC was nothing. It's the best one ever.

Jason Atwood: It's not best. It's just the biggest. It was two hours and they announced two major, two, three major things, four or five. I mean, you just keep the list goes on. I have like, I have like three things. I'm really excited. All right. You name me the three things and I'll fill in everybody else.

Justin Edelstein: And all the others. So what's the first thing you're so excited about? The number one thing I'm the most excited about. is drum roll please fixing mail in the new operating system going back to simplicity like being able to read messages and reply to them. It was a great moment. He as Craig Federini,

Jason Atwood: He got up there and he actually did a lot of it. It was funny. He was getting on and off the stage a lot. He said and you know first let's talk about mail. So this is the new which are you're you're undercutting the story Which is that Yosemite the next operating out there. They're now moved to Historical places in California. Yeah, so it was Mavericks now Yosemite now They did a nice video of trying to find it They made some jokes even some pot jokes, which is funny I thought that was kind of like a non very political thing to do is like, oh they went to this place and puff puff puff then they went to find some food it's like oh that's okay the place they went was called weed yes called weed so so Yosemite which is gonna be their next operating system which will be for free which will come out in the fall for the first time ever they're actually gonna allow for beta tester so you will be able to sign up in August and get it and actually test it.

Jason Atwood: No, thank you. I will be doing that because I love to do that.

Justin Edelstein: You are not a smart man. I think that that's... You have one computer for work. Yep. And it needs to work.

Jason Atwood: Yep. Okey dokey. Yeah, but if I don't do it, no one will. So anyway, that's... Not true. But one of the things they talked about, it's a lot of, you know, there are new features. There's a lot of stuff that's coming back from the iOS, right? It's coming back from the mobile.

Justin Edelstein: It's coming back from tons of cool features. I'm really excited about core features. Keep it true to the core. Make mail work better because I will tell you, mail is not good in Mavericks.

Jason Atwood: Mavericks took, mail took a big step back. They tried to fix it a couple of times. It's better than when it used to be such a great client and now it just feels bloated and slow and awful And so they've added they they came out and they said the first thing we're gonna do You know is we're gonna we're gonna make it do the things that mail should do well and everybody kind of there's like a uncomfortable Yeah, you guys admit it. I think that's powerful for a company to basically admit that they

24:19 Justin Edelstein: They stood there and said we're gonna make mail Send mail and be able to read mail and fast and do things. All right. So what's your second one? when they talked about the integration of the phone and the desktop and Kind of like having them as continuity understand that they're near each other and be able to leverage features from one or the other Right. So, you know, air dropping, air dropping is huge. But also like messaging. Right. Between the two, like being able to start something in one place, finish it in the other. The darn green bubbles will be green bubbles go into iMessage on the on the laptop. So I'm sitting on my laptop and I have my messages open and all of a sudden I get an SMS and. I can apply to it right there on the laptop.

Justin Edelstein: I mean,

Jason Atwood: Calling from the computer. We're taking calls from the computer. I just love this stuff. Just take the two things and connect them. And through Bluetooth, right. So making it so they're just basically much more aware that they're around each other. So when your phone's around and you've set it. once the computer can use it. For what the phone does that the computer doesn't do. Right, so when the phone has different things in it. And to make the pass off between the two, not just okay getting a phone call and connecting, whatever. And they had a couple things, but the I'm sitting there writing, I'm coming into my apartment I'm writing an email, I type type type into my email my phone and I get close to my computer and the computer says, hey, you're close to the computer.

Jason Atwood: Do you want to continue writing that here? You click a button, and up comes the email fully just exactly like you left it, and you just continue on and hit set. Seems very, very brilliant.

Justin Edelstein: I like the two. And whatever else they're going to be able to do with those things, like tying things even more tightly together, I really like. I mean, the biggest one for me is really just Messaging right so having the ability to do messaging from anywhere on any device did they talk though about? Being able to do like the SMS messaging with the iPad

Jason Atwood: No, I don't think I don't remember cuz I would love that And those blue bubbles. And what's the difference? You should be able to. Sell your, it's going out over a cellular connection.

Justin Edelstein: No, no, no, but if I'm sitting there with my iPhone in my pocket. Can it send it out to the phone? Yeah, because that's what the computer's doing, right? Yeah. Why can't my iPad do it? I would like for the continuity to be there between the iPad and the iPhone as well. So the bearing of the story there is that iOS 8,

Jason Atwood: The new version. And now you're seeing also a convergence of the operating system. So. So, the operating system, iOS has always been kind of on a year long, although I think it was started at 18 months and now it's bound to a year. They put on a new version every year. But now the operating system is also going to a year as well and they're kind of putting them together. So, they're being very risky but you can see the way they're doing it is less is more. So, they don't say this is like a total, I mean, seven was kind of big but it was really skinny stuff. It was like, you know, look and feel. And so was Mavericks. Mavericks had stuff in it, but I can't name three things in it Mavericks. It has a bunch of stuff in it other than mail networking.

27:36 Jason Atwood: And there's a bunch of stuff in Safari, but I don't know. But it's like it's enough that they keep putting out something once a year. They make it free. Everybody adopts it. And then they just move on to the next one. It's nice that all this stuff, I used to pay $119. Each time I upgraded my $200, I get a family pack.

Justin Edelstein: Yeah, I get a new mail client, I get a new calendar client, I get a new, you know, everything else that comes with iTunes and I guess that didn't really come with it, but... But now it's like a quick install.

Jason Atwood: So, and it's free.

Justin Edelstein: So, interesting stuff. Can I have two more? Two more, okay, yeah. I wouldn't mind four., okay, go for two more. Go for two more. All right. Staying on the messaging theme. I think just... messages on the phone are getting so much better. Yeah, they're just taking everything from WhatsApp. They're taking WhatsApp and just robbing it of all its features and I love myself some WhatsApp and I think being able to name chats and I think being able to send audio, send video. Auto delete auto delete huge files that are sent to me. I have a gigabyte worth of messages right now. Yeah, just get rid of it. It's not necessary to have a save on there. If you want to save it, throw in your... And you can't get rid of it. I looked at it today and like there's nobody to go delete it.

Justin Edelstein: I know, I keep getting these videos of my niece and it's like right, she's playing. Great. Like, I love her. She's cute. I don't delete. But I don't need... all these videos on my phone.

Jason Atwood: I think my wife's iMessage on our phone is like 1.8GB.

Justin Edelstein: Crazy, and then you want to update the software and you can't. Can't do it. You have someone messages. That teaches me, and I'll never get the smaller phone ever again. There you go. Just for the updates, I have to delete a whole bunch of... stuff every time I'm not filming.

Jason Atwood: I have a 64 gigabyte iMac mini and I'm filling it up. Yeah, mine's not.

Justin Edelstein: It's got stuff on it. But I'm pretty diligent about like getting rid of video after I've watched it. Anyway, I get one more yeah? Yeah, one more. Photo what about photos? Did you like well? I I don't like I photo so Getting rid of I photo and replacing it with photo like the like really the convergence top yeah, the convergence between the IOS version of photos, which I like and The desktop version of what will be photos and not I photo anymore will to me make my life a lot easier. And then being able to store everything in the cloud is the part that gets me. It's like, I don't want these files. I don't want them. I don't want you have them. Right. I'm going to pay you to take care of them. Right.

Jason Atwood: And that's the big announcement. That's next year. That's not this year. But that photos on the Mac will then it will store your data in the cloud. And the prices weren't bad. Like 200 gigabytes. It's 200 gigabytes for $399 a month. So like I know I pay. I wouldn't even need that much. I need like the lesser. There's the 20 gigabyte, whatever. I would be at the 200. I think I have photo libraries that are for 30, 40 gigabytes.

30:37 Justin Edelstein: I just hate iPhoto. I dread when it opens. Like I just hate it. Really? I also hate iTunes. Like I don't think I can remember the last time I opened iTunes on. My Mac. Oh, I hate it. Stay away from it. I hate it. So that's the next thing they need to do is say iTunes You had a great run, but music Videos like go to the way the iOS works. It just music videos What's your last one? Oh, that was it? That was the last one So the things you're just kind of skipping on here and I'm missing the healthcare things which I was hoping you would really touch Well,

Jason Atwood: It's not It's not the healthcare stuff, it's that they, I'm gonna cover the four dev stuff. So one is they have a new programming language called Swift. Amazing, don't wanna talk about it, but they're basically, you know, they were saying, hey listen. You're saying amazing, you gotta give a little. Well, because it's amazing because it's a modern thing, a language. It's been built from the ground up. It's not a 30 year old language. I mean there's stuff that we're still that's a 30 year old language that new one has been in the development for four years. So it will take into account all sorts of stuff that I don't even know how it works. But I watch the videos, I've seen some stuff on it, it looks great. You know, easier to learn, easier to prototype stuff faster, you know, all the good stuff.

Jason Atwood: They also launched a IOS called Metal, which is a 3D rendering platform, language toolkit, whatever, but that will make the the playing in 3D games and stuff on the IOS devices much, much, much faster.

Justin Edelstein: Oh, so up up to console. I don't really do that, but that's kind of cool. But up to console level, like we're getting really good stuff. Here's the thing with playing these games. I've never found, first off, I'm not a big gamer, so I'll throw that out there, like as a disclaimer on this, because I could be so off base that it's not even funny. You probably are. But like, you know, I grew up playing Nintendo and then obviously like through to PlayStation and all those things. There's something about having a control in your hand and not having to sort of jury rig the controls on top of the game. like anything that like I really would love to play Madden on an iPad but I've tried playing Madden on an iPad and it's really difficult.

Justin Edelstein: That's because the that's because there's so many controls. The app sucks. Yeah but I think it's because it's really hard like what I would like to do is just they have sort of airplay the game onto the TV and then have something else that I can use as the remote.

Jason Atwood: They have. They have that they have Bluetooth through the device that will connect up to Apple TV and all that. I think you're not going to see that type of thing until Apple TV becomes a first class citizen and run the iOS 8. And then you have games and controllers in software for Apple TV. And then all of a sudden controllers make more sense for an Apple TV that has a gaming console. So there's that, there was metal, there was Swift, the new program language, and then there were two new tool kits, which they don't really do this very often. In fact, I can't remember the last time that they launched this type of thing. So they kind of, I think it's a great strategy because it's, you know, in the past. they would say like it's like i Belkin and whatever, Smart Home and all that will start R to make their apps HomeKit enabled and you'll be able to control them all from one place.

34:53 Jason Atwood: My WeMo? Your WeMo, whatever whatever, that's Belkin. So that's amazing. And then they sort of did the same thing with Health instead of saying, hey, we're going to build a Health app and we're going to fight RunKeeper. and breeze and whatever Nike and I mean there's just a million of these health apps now and shine and fitbit and Strava and we're going to create a kit and it's going to be able to hold and display the data from all these places and you as a consumer will be able to say hey this device can see my heart rate and whatever and this device can see calories or weight or whatever.

Justin Edelstein: Thank Thank Thank Also talk to him and do all the stuff. Runkeeper actually can talk to yourself. Well, I know it does, but like have everything all How many steps does that take?

Jason Atwood: Anyway, I've been using Breeze, I think I made it a pic. and now it's fine, it It's just no, no, no, no, no the the perspective. There's new, new, new, there that of the whole stuff, I was like ahh, I'm excited to see what people run keeper do,.. Speaking of... Speaking of things that I like, let's do our picks of the week which you don't have in here. No, I don't. I'm not have a pick. Have a pick. We didn't, it was so terrible. I wanna re- pick I wanna re-pick something. Spring 14.

39:24 Justin Edelstein: No, only you. No one would ever pick Spring 14. No, I wanna re-pick something. Can I re-pick something? Is it really topical? Sure is. Like really like today topical? Like today I want to re Watch ESPN. But here, I'll do it different. In episode 9b5, I picked the iPad. And the World Cup is going on. I want to watch the games. I don't care about whatever FIFA says about the games. Fifeo. So anyway, we were doing work. in our conference room today and in the background we had on a match and it was streaming and beautiful HD. I like that you think that we were doing work. Well, I was doing work. You were not. I sure was. so yeah. Yeah, I, I thought that that was, pretty darn cool.

Jason Atwood: So watch ESPN like for the Apple TV. and I mean, I would say you should, I'm not gonna make this my pick, but you should really check out the the FIFA

Justin Edelstein: App, it has a lot of cool stuff. Oh, look at the score there. We're going to have to watch the end of that match. Yeah, see, like there's a lot of stuff going on.

Jason Atwood: It sure looks like it. Yeah, neat stuff. So I think it has a watching thing, but ESPN is the one that people said. And it was working. We worked on the Apple TV. It worked great. We have good internet here. Yeah, we do. We do. All right, cool. I, I'm not gonna pick FIFA. You know, the. Beats app. We talked about Pandora. Songs, which is mine. We talked about iTunes Stream in it now. iTunes radio, whatever it's called. You can stream. And all these things are kind of in, It is free if you have a Prime subscription. to your device. So if you want to grab that cool new Justin Timberlake song and put it on your device and go offline, you can do it. And it's brie for an Amazon subscription. So prime is $80 a year or it's gonna go up to $99.

42:51 Jason Atwood: Here's an album, download the album. It just comes flying down on your device. You can then see what's on your device and what's not on your device. So Amazon Music, if you're a Prime member, and this is obviously their way to get you into being a Prime member, Prime to me is like, it's gold. It pays for itself a billion times over a year. And they add one of these things on And I'm like, wow, oh, great. I know I'm just sucked in, but... Like the amount that I pay Amazon a year versus the amount I pay Apple a year. Well, I mean, I buy everything through Amazon, but I like, I only have one subscription with Amazon. Apple, I feel like I have, I buy tons of other stuff, devices and things and gear and phones and Amazon just buy this one.

Jason Atwood: One thing from them, which is, this is Prime membership. a It's called Amazon Music. It is very very very nice. Anyway, you should check it out. If you have a subscription, like download it on iOS, Android, and online. You can just log in online and just start playing music. No ads at all. That's the other thing. Oh yeah, I mean, you're paying for it. You're paying for it, but that's the thing. There's no ads and it's downloading. And it's coming with your subscription. So for those who use Spotify, and I know Spotify has some other stuff, you know, sharing and lists and things, but anyway, I thought it was really cool. By the way, speaking of ads,

Justin Edelstein: I'm gonna, I'm gonna do, I, I'm gonna do, I'm gonna extend this about four minutes. four minutes? episode next week. You logged into R14org? I have not, but I know the feature you're talking about. When I said speaking of ads. Yeah, the banners at the top.

Jason Atwood: I haven't seen it yet, but I've heard about it. It's a bit obnoxious. Cause I read the damn release notes.

Justin Edelstein: Damn release notes, really? Really? So mad. It's a little obnoxious, Salesforce.

Jason Atwood: I'm gonna just go out on relenting no I'm just talking about now I don't think you need a banner ad that people are paying for I don't think it's worth it is there

Justin Edelstein: Any worse than discover spring 13,

Jason Atwood: There's plenty of admins who don I don't like the way that data.com gets advertised It's not cool. I don't like it. We'll see. I'll have to use it. If I can turn it off once and it goes away, if I can turn it off before anybody even sees it, I wake up on the Saturday morning. No, you can do it.

46:15 Justin Edelstein: I mean, you could, but you should look at it. You log into the sandbox, take a look at what it looks like. It's a little jarring. It takes up a lot of real estate. It's literally the whole- It's informational. It's like go get the mobile app. Oh. But- I already have the mobile app.

Jason Atwood: Or We're also on Facebook, facebook.com slash Ar-arcasync. We're in the Success Community Group. There's also a CloudFocus Weekly Group. So you can go in and join that group and then you can post. We post some stuff in there. We definitely post all the episodes. We're on LinkedIn, the Google Plus, and please, please, please, either throw a review at... iTunes or go to St icher which is the other place right yes places other place you can review it's kind of like the it's the new frontier so go to stitcher and you can find the podcast search and then review us there because it's a new place to review maybe if you've already reviewed us over at the iTunes you can review us at stitcher and you can review us at Stitcher and Until next week, we'll be back again next week's all summer 14, all summer long, all summer.

Jason Atwood: All day, all night.. Maybe recorded on my birthday. All night. All night. That'll be fun.? Ooh, that'll be fun. Birthday episode. Birthday episode.? and that's Justin singing and I'm Jason saying of. Of course. Enjoy those cloudy days.

Justin Edelstein: Of course. Enjoy those cloudy days. You