85 Pulses - Episode #205 of CloudFocus Weekly

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00:11 Jason Atwood: This is the 205th episode of CloudFocus Weekly for the first week of February 2015. This episode is titled 84 Pulses. CloudFocus Weekly is brought to you by Arkus. And we are hiring. If you are a Salesforce Consultant and want to be part of a unique and growing company, send your resume to careers at arkusinc.com. That's A-R-K-U-S-I-N-C.com. I'm your host, Chase Nowin, and joining me, co-host, 205 times in a row. Never misses a beat. Justin never misses a beat. Edelstein.

Justin Edelstein: I'm missing a beat right now. You are a phone. My phone was ringing in my pocket. That happens. And I looked at the number and you know you look at the number and you try to determine like, hmm, this area code. Okay, it's local. Right. But they're not a contact to my phone. What was it? A 2-1-2? It was a 5-1-6. Okay, that's like Long Island.

Jason Atwood: I know who it was. Oh. Well, good job. Yeah, see but I got that right around that was really good. So we have in our last Episode no, we have one more.

Justin Edelstein: We're gonna have another but we're gonna skip a week and come back to it Oh that one's actually gonna be written.

Jason Atwood: It's gonna be written. Okay, I know all right I thought it will be written I thought I got caught it would

Justin Edelstein: Have it would have thrown the whole schedule off and it would have moved everyone up a week and those people might not have been ready to move up a week.

Jason Atwood: It's happening. Oh, it's happening. But anyway, so this week, we have two blog posts, one that we wrote and one that we didn't write on spring 15th. We have a couple more spring 15s. So we'll be back to that in a while, but we'll do a little bit in the blogging today. And then we have... Two little bits of, I guess, wearable news, which is kind of fun. They're juxtaposing each other. So we'll talk about those. And then we have a kind of neat next time on. So we'll talk about that. Very special episode. And then we'll do a CloudFocus app pick of the week. And I got a very cool one.

Justin Edelstein: You have a creepy one. I have a creepy cool one. It's creepy.

Jason Atwood: Anyway, so let's go first of all start post of the week that's at blog.arcasinc.com Hey look who wrote this? It's written by me!

Justin Edelstein: Look it was published on February 5th. At 12.51pm.

Jason Atwood: So this is sales for spring 15 for banking. So in our eyes I was saying I think my I think I win with the the picture of the icon.

Justin Edelstein: Yeah, you know what, you did work on that. I actually did work. I was supposed to just search on Google for... Yeah, I actually... I didn't even notice that to be quite honest to be. I opened up a Photoshop. I didn't even notice that that was a... that's a really good one. That's a good one.

03:16 Jason Atwood: It wasn't actually that hard, but anyway. I do own Photoshop. Which actually could be my another pick is pick photoshop. No pick the creative like the licensing I have for Photoshop. Oh. Which is cloud licensing. It's like the suite of Adobe, which is like 15 apps. I should have that. No, you don't get that. I don't need that. You don't need that. You don't know. You'd break your head even opening up Photoshop. Oh yeah, Photoshop scared me.

Justin Edelstein: So I was watching somebody this morning edit on Adobe. Yes. Which I used. Someone? One? Well, I'm not. It's not my wife. Oh, okay. She doesn't use a W. You're cheating on your wife with watching someone else edit? Oh, I was out of it. Prospects office this morning And they had a studio and I was like, oh you guys have a studio and I'm always interested when there's a broadcasting Studio, right? I am a broadcaster. I'm doing it right now. Yes Went to college for broadcasting so always interested and he's like, oh, yeah And here's the guy who runs the studio and he's sitting there in front of this mega enormous Huge Apple monitor like the size that theyo mega enormous and huge they don't make them this big anymore 30. It's a 30. Oh, it's bigger I don't think they made anything about it.

Justin Edelstein: It's huge. It's like the old one the silver ones Really old really but really big and he's sitting there editing. I'm like, I don't I don't recognize that one cuz I I would recognize Abbott or some of the other ones. They go, it's premier. I'm like, oh wow, I haven't used that in like 12 years. He's like, yeah, we, whatever. Oh, we're stuck. Phone stuck. In the history.

Jason Atwood: So blog post called 15. So this is part of our banking Track yeah banking track on on the on the blog I think this is like fourth or fifth one I've done And this is a look at Salesforce spring 15 But you know sort of considering the banking industry So I tried it was tough because I went through all of our other blog posts and I tried to pick out one So we hadn't already talked about So I think I did that, although maybe. I think you did. Yeah, I think I didn't. I didn't create anyone's.

Justin Edelstein: I'm surprised the sales one didn't do this.

Jason Atwood: The lead one. The lead one. Yeah. So anyway, I'm not going to go over it, because we're actually the next article is called, which will probably cover every single one of these, which is not written by us. But anyway, that's a blog.arcasim. five or six features and I talk about them and you can go read it. That's awesome. so top coder. Yep. So Jeff Douglas. Oh, so Jeff Douglas. There you go. I suppose, I think I recognize this person, or this blog wrote the four things you should know about the salesforce.com spring 54. I don't know. I don't. I think he has to work look at the branding guidelines because there's no more you don't call it salesforce.com anymore. You don't? I don't know if you do anymore. Look at their logo, no.com.

06:32 Jason Atwood: There's no.com anywhere. There's no more.com. If you look anywhere. Anyway, he lists off literally 84 of them and they're in like these categories of stuff. I will say the one since I've been talking to clients about it and even brought it up again today the one that I just Everybody just keeps talking about over and over and over again is Is the Duke blocker?

Justin Edelstein: Well what all right you'll talk about the Duke blocker? I don't want to talk about it. I just want to say that everybody's excited about it I was gonna sort of bring it back to the banking thing Oh, okay, and just talk about the first thing he listed in general enhancements Which is IE 7 and IE 8 are no longer support

Jason Atwood: Yeah, well what what is ie on now 10, 9, 11,

Justin Edelstein: 11? Yeah, I think it's 11 But I think it's 11.

Jason Atwood: And what's Chrome on? Nobody knows. Who cares. It's just Chrome.

Justin Edelstein: I just think about like front forward-facing client facing applications like a community. Yeah and I could see a bank being like how can you not support ie8 a Blah blah blah percentage of our users log into our website with ie8 Right like these are these are like considerations and things that while I totally understand not supporting browsers that are three or four versions old and I mean, I ate what, five years old, maybe. I get it. But people still do use them. And that's where the, you know, that's the rub of of the whole, you know, multi tenant architecture is you. When Salesforce decides to support things, you get it. when they decide to stop supporting things, you live with those consequences.

Jason Atwood: So just for S's and G's, I went to look at our website. Yeah. So as a comparison.

Justin Edelstein: Yeah, so who's hitting our website?

Jason Atwood: So 67%, 67.9%, obviously we'll see if this is over a time period, this is over. It's over a month. Well, why not do last year? Let's do a year. Let's do a year Let's do an entire an entire calendar year.

Justin Edelstein: Okay, I'm going actually I'm gonna go I'm gonna go you January 1st

Jason Atwood: 2014 I did January 6th 2014 to February 5th 2015 for over a year Okay, didn't change 63.8% that's a little bit down 63.8% is what browser?

Justin Edelstein: Is what browser? Yeah, I'm asking you. Oh, that's not the name of a browser? No, it's not. What browser? Yeah, what browser?

Jason Atwood: Chrome. 63% is Chrome.

Justin Edelstein: I was guessing Safari because of the mobile stuff. And that's over a year period.

Jason Atwood: Firefox is next up with 13.32.

Justin Edelstein: Wow, okay. Safari is at 10. Where are you ie?

Jason Atwood: Under 10 9.8 percent does it break it down yep? I'm about to break it for you break it all right do it 31 this is of the subset of ie 31.12 percent ie 10 11 11 okay good on you 20 30 percent 29.55 9 What are 10? Is there an I-10? I don't know. Oh yeah, no it's on here. It's way low. 23% 8.

09:53 Justin Edelstein: Yeah, see that? 23% of people still on I-8. Yeah, 23% of 10%. But of the people who are using Internet Explorer,

Jason Atwood: They're still on I-8. That's less than like 3% of the population. So that's tiny. Still people. Now. And there's a 0.03% and this is 0.03% of again, the total of 10% are using five. But it's five, it goes 10, nine, eight, 10, or sorry, 11, 10, 11, nine, eight, 10, seven, six, five. With 10 being less than both eight and nine, which is a little bit odd, but then 11 spiking.

Justin Edelstein: It must be a, it must be a Windows 7, Windows 8 thing. Yeah, there must have been a, this one ships with this browser and this one ships with this browser. One of them got caught in the middle. That does kinda interesting. Well thanks for that. Yeah, you're welcome. Alright, so let's mention a couple, let's go in there. Yeah. Two of each. So, I'll pick one of the force.com ones. That we have not mentioned. This is from Jeff, and he's more of a force.com. guy and I'll go with one of the code ones. So deploy to production without running all tests with quick deploy. I was reading about this the other day as I was rereading some of the release notes. So I think the way it works is, and I don't know if he does describe it here.

Justin Edelstein: So if you have deployed a change set with the same components or validated a change set with the same components within the last four days, Nice. All the tests don't have to run. That's very cool. So I just did a deployment over the weekend last week where I deployed, like, I only deployed, like, 14 actual components. But I had to run 200 and 16 tests. And every time I went to validate or deploy, it would take a long time. So I was running all those tests in production. Thank you for watching. And man, it would have been great if I could have skipped that step after the first time. It's like, yes, everything runs. And nothing else is changing. So let me just, you know, because I had to validate it a few times. So that's really cool.

Jason Atwood: Go ahead. I'm trying to think of one that I didn't mention. Well, maybe I'll use one that I did mention... Or two little ones a chatter desk dashboard dashboard package that'll come out after spring Which allow you to get metric metrics about chatter posts now I would do a little plug for a compliance locker which actually logs all of chatter posts anyway And you can actually then do metrics around chat. I'm sure this will be much better Especially with stuff like topics and things like that. Maybe I don't know And then yeah Emoticons come into chatter feeds.

Justin Edelstein: I've seen that in the success community smiley face smiley face I think it was like a browser plug-in front. Well, you know frowny face All right, you pick another one, okay Let me pick one from this, you know, I'm trying to scroll down those like I was 84. yeah, that's why I'm trying to like go more towards the bottom so I can do this. Let's see. Something we haven't even mentioned yet.

13:04 Jason Atwood: Something we haven't mentioned. Yeah, that one's hard. Wow. You're good. Oh, I'm using this time to actually find one. See? Well, how about this one? I don't think everybody's talked about this. RYAN PENAGOSA The import my accounts and contacts, now you can pick social networks to pick, to drive from, like LinkedIn, like Gmail. You can say, import my accounts and contacts from these sources and it'll go pick them up. I think LinkedIn, Gmail, there's a couple others. So that's kind of cool. JONATHAN LEE I like that. RYAN PENAGOSA Yeah, especially that with the doob blocking. Again, I don't want to bring back the doob blocking, but I feel like that's

Justin Edelstein: Massive all right pick one more and we'll run more something actually use already So they're expanding setup search to include now assignment rules custom buttons custom links and more So I use it now to like search for fields. It's great Because I know what the field is without having to click and I'm always a search first navigator. Yeah. Search first navigator. I feel like that should be a thing. Should be a t-shirt. Like a badge or something. All right. Tap two. So expanded. It's like a set up search. You know, speaking of badges, I'm gonna go off on tangent. Okay. I went today. Thanks badge. So I thanked you in our org this morning. Thank you for thank you, and I used one of the standard thanks badges Because I wanted to create a custom badge and I went to create my custom badge and when I clicked Save I got that dreaded internal server error page that doesn't have like the header Nothing, right just a white page.

Justin Edelstein: This is internal server area would not let me create a new badge. I tried Is it just you? I mean maybe you stink and it... Maybe I stink. Maybe it was the image I was using. I don't know, but it would not let me create a new badge today. I thought we already had one of those badges we don't have attention to detail badge so I was going to create a attention to detail badge Oh use me as Jason the Jason's the action badge. Yeah Jason big badge. Very good badge 236 K,s you don't want that badge save badge created. Yeah, it was the image right deleting this badge that just created all All right, let's move on to things that other people didn't like so basically your

16:47 Jason Atwood: Oh nice segue by Back to Dreamforce 2014, which seems almost 16 years ago, but was barely four months ago. Will.i them, a famous musician and tech starter upper, I guess, showed off and announced his pulse. Spelled Force, right? Sorry, I spelled it wrong here. It's spelled U-L-S. Yes pulse. Oh,

Justin Edelstein: Not a smartwatch.

Jason Atwood: So he he announced this at Dreamforce, basically had a conference. He did use Dreamforce as a vehicle to announce it.

Justin Edelstein: So and the partner shell that shower may nameless and I watched the announcement. Yes, we watched it and came away befuddled by it. We both had kind of the same negative reaction to it at the time. Well, that's sort of the point, is that now there's actually, it's been out,

Jason Atwood: People have reviewed it, because I guess that was like a demo model, whatever, and so there's been a review, and of course I see the review, and I'm like, ooh, I want to see, because I He did like a video with like TechCrunch or something, but he did like a 15 minute interview So I was like, oh I kind of get it. They showed it. He showed it. They showed off all the features I was like, okay, okay. I kind of got everything I wanted to cuff So then I watched that and I came across like I guess I had a different experience because I saw it as It was innovative, like he was really pushing some bounds and thinking about things in a different way. I think from a technology standpoint it just looks like, yeah, that's not going to work.

Jason Atwood: But hey, like the idea that you wear clothes and the clothes connect to your thing and it charges as you walk and it like it's all like you're in like a... You're in like fashion wearables and like quick concepts. But then I think like taking those great concepts that are look good up on one of these whiteboards around us and then breaking it down to like an actual technical thing, I think that's tough. And so anyway, there's the first review. Unmashables is William's pulse PULS. This is what wearable nightmares look like. Pretty scathing. Yeah. He basically blows it up and says.

Justin Edelstein: It is... That's the title, right? This is what......the little nightmares look like. Yeah,

Jason Atwood: Wearable nightmares look like... The first header. Beyond uncomfortable. Well, that, but... The first subject. That's her sentence. You don't have to read any further. There are so many things wrong with Will.i.am's Pulse smartwatch or smart bangle wearable that I don't even know where to begin.

Justin Edelstein: Mean you're basically saying you know just read the headers beyond uncomfortable user interface nightmare What I mean what is good and you wrote no you actually gave it a little bit and then the phone is good Yeah, and then you did Talk about how it is still a beta project product. Right. And I think at some point in this article or this blog post he did compare it a little bit to like Google Glass. Like almost like a buyer beware type of thing. Like Google Glass disappeared.

19:59 Jason Atwood: Right? We didn't even talk about that. Well I don't think it disappeared. I mean they sold thousands and thousands of them. But you can't. I think they just, they kind of pulled it back to rework it. Like, they're not giving up on Google Glass. I think they're giving up on that piece of hardware that they built, but I think Google Glass, the technology, the theory, that everything will come back as something else. Let me give you an example. I want Google Eyeglass. Like Google Wave. I want one.

Justin Edelstein: Like one spectacle.

Jason Atwood: Well it's like Google Wave. Google Wave was killed off, but then a lot of it showed back up in Google Docs. We'll talk about it again in Google Drive. Like it showed back up. Like a lot of the commenting and stuff, all this stuff that didn't exist. So I expect Google Glass to show back up as a different thing. Like... I think it'll come back. I don't think you've seen the last of Google last. I've seen the last of Google last. Wow, where'd that voice come from?

Justin Edelstein: That was awesome. I want Google compact lens.

Jason Atwood: Oh yeah, I don't want to wear the glass. I want something that goes in my eyeball. Contact lens. What do they call contact lens? Because then I can use my pick of the week and oh man I'm a scary, scary person. Anyway. So $400, he said it was uncomfortable,

Justin Edelstein: The typing on it was terrible. That's the thing, it replete... the idea, the whole pitch was it's untethered. Right. That was the whole pitch. You don't need the phone. This is a phone. Right. And you don't need the phone to do email because you could do it on this thing, which is so tiny that I just... when we were watching the presentation, I was looking at... at the partner and I was like, who in their right mind would ever take the time to compose anything on that thing?

Jason Atwood: So he has a little video in the article, on Mashable again, showing how he does the input and it looks terrible. It makes me want to go back and get the old three touch, whatever they call that, triple touch.

Justin Edelstein: I mean, it's that bad. It's a QWERTY keyboard on it. Two-inch screen and you yeah, and I mean and then the other tiny

Jason Atwood: The other piece I thought he said that was interesting was the

Justin Edelstein: Anita Anita Anita was great when he was presenting it cuz it was like it was like I need a Something right either something and it was funny. All right, Anita Okay, I need a restaurant to go to tonight, right? I mean it's a fun, it's a better name for Siri.

Jason Atwood: A-N-E-E-D-A. Right. Anita. Anita. Not A-N-I-T-A. Right. Anita. But she says Anita is like Siri minus the personality. Anyway, I don't know. It didn't look like a winner when it came out. I love the people are pressing the sides of technology and trying. I think. I think the interface is really the toughest piece this big bulky bracelet like I know he says it one place it looks like it looks

23:04 Justin Edelstein: Like the thing that the prisoners wears they can't leave the houses well he called it a cuff when he was present yeah so he was calling it a fashion but

Jason Atwood: Why is a big

Justin Edelstein: Black cuff on your like how's that fashionable? I don't know what fashion is. Well, that's clear I mean I can look at you and see that the devil wears Prada and some of those things go way over my head Great movie by the way is It's okay.

Jason Atwood: Very good. All right, so that's the pulse Speaking of the pulse, I have my hand on the pulse of Apple news. Really? So during well, we're not going to cover the Apple announcements, which were like, world's were broken with the amount of iPad or iPhones that they sold broke through every record like just insane like what. what this company keeps saying, for big to small screens. And as I played Bajou, today, I'm like he couldn't play big Bajou on a big screen. So anyway the what he did talk about Tim Cook talked about in in the you know, earnings call, he's talking about the Apple the Apple watch that's coming out and it's going to ship in April. And that's been a while since we talked about the Apple Watch, which were since in the world of wearables.

Jason Atwood: This is a very known wearable. There are now interfaces. Tesla has showed off their Apple Watch app that they've built. And they kind of slammed the SDK and there's things you can't do, there's things you can't get to that Apple is keeping controlled. I kind of want to be like, yeah, that's sort of the way Apple does things, right? They start small and they grow. Now, they always don't give like full control over the phone even now. I mean, they allow slowly to give small bits because they want to keep it very stable and controlled. But there's some interesting things that people are showing off because they get access to the SD-C. They start to write apps. So what are they showing off? So that was one was to still have all this stuff.

Jason Atwood: Yeah, you could just see everything about your phone, everything about your car, seeing can you start your car? I don't know if they put in starting your car, maybe. But it's like, you know, all the levels and things like that. I have I have in my own focus by Apple Watch as a project. I keep pushing it out. Project. It's a project. First, buy Apple Watch done. No, but you know, I'm gonna have to like order it. I guess it's really not- it's more of just a reminder made to do it, like when it comes out. but when we first talked about- so I'm forgetting where you are now. Oh man. Because you flipped so many freaking times.

26:04 Justin Edelstein: I flipped once. Yeah, you flipped a hundred times. I flipped exactly one time. No. Well, I don't think so. Well actually, I don't even think it's a flip. Because I was always undecided until I made my decision. Oh, okay. I use the sider. I was declared undecided Okay, so what is your decision?

Jason Atwood: I will be buying an Apple watch So first out first week first day on sale 6 a.m. You're clicking the button correct doesn't matter Don't want to see it touch it be in a store Don't care don't feel like I have to probably go for the like sport fitness tracking version not the fifteen thousand dollar gold one That one.

Justin Edelstein: Okay. I want the sport one for to replace my Fitbit.

Jason Atwood: To replace your Fitbit. Like your Fitbit but I rather have that.

Justin Edelstein: It doesn't do as all it does is like one thing. It tracks my steps and it does a bunch of other things but it that's what it does. If I could wear something that does something a little bit more than that. So you're all in. Go for it.

Jason Atwood: So they've announced pricing but I bet you don't know it. So I'm gonna say, what's the max you'd pay for the Apple Watch? The max? Yeah. Like if this is the lowest you could get it for or the one that you want is this price. Let me throw some numbers at you. Alright. Thousand dollars. That made me think. Okay, so it's like the one you want is like $1,000. Yeah. You're thinking. Thinking. $750.

Justin Edelstein: Probably still thinking. Really? Yeah. $599.

Jason Atwood: I'm in there. Yeah. Click, done. Yeah. $499.

Justin Edelstein: If there's a 5, I'm in. There's a 5. $599.99. If it's like $500, that'd be good, but if it's $599, I'm also in. So $599. Six six oh one I'm out plus axes and an apple care. Oh, yeah That one's definitely getting apple care five doesn't Apple care, but the watch will get it the first rep definitely get the first trip.

Jason Atwood: I mean are you? I Mean 399 to start. Oh, well then I'm in. Yeah, it's starting. You don't know what that's gonna It could be the smaller one which you don't want.

Justin Edelstein: The middle the middle child no the the there's always three there's the small medium large With these with these products not this one well hundreds of models. I mean like configurations with the phones There's like the small medium large, and I'm not talking screen size I'm talking like right you know and when I when it first came out was it like four eight sixteen gig and And then it was like eight, 1632, 1632, 64. You always want the one in the middle. The one at the high end is, you never use all that. And the one at the low end, you run out of space. You want the one in the middle. So I don't know where they are listed, whatever. Yeah, I mean, I think the thing that you're gonna. I want the sport band.

Jason Atwood: Yeah, this is, is the thing. It's gonna be the bands, which, yeah, you want more than one band. No. I am. I don't care. I want the sport band and I want the stainless steel band. Yeah, I don't care that much. Cause the stainless steel band. and Good enough. Nope, I'm gonna swap them out. Because the sport band's like sport. It's like rubber and then the stainless steel band is like stainless steel and nice. So yeah, that's probably where I'm at and probably the bigger watch face. Because it's shooting watch face sizes. Oh, then I'm gonna have to go to the store. Oh, then I'm gonna get mine so much faster than you. I'm gonna have to go to the store. I'm gonna buy one and if I don't like it, I'm gonna get the other one.

29:37 Jason Atwood: So I'm gonna have to look I'm gonna I'm gonna have to see what it feels like Well, you'll I mean you can tell by looking like I can give you my watch and to say this is a 42 and you can go Oh, that's too.

Justin Edelstein: Oh, they do that. Yeah, they know what that me see your no, we're not doing this now Let me see your watch not doing this. Just hold your wrist up.

Jason Atwood: Yeah, how big is that? I think this is a 42 I don't want that big. Oh, you don't want this bait. So you don't want the smaller one. Yeah, I want the ladies version Yeah, you do

Justin Edelstein: I think there's a small although it is like a screen that I guess maybe the bigger it is the better.

Jason Atwood: I don't know. I think you want the yeah, so there's the What are you where are you looking? There's watch watch sport and watch edition watch edition website are you on? Apple comm slash watch overview Why didn't you put that in the agenda why didn't silly coming early spring anybody's go all the way to the bomb that overview page You'll see that there's three different models. Oh, here we go Yeah, there's a sport wash, which I'm guessing the sport's gonna be the cheapest. Although I think it's supposed to have, maybe not a strength in iron glass. That's the one I want. I want the sporty one. Yeah, maybe I'll get the sport one, but get that extra thing. So anyway, so that's, I'm kind of excited about it. I mean, I don't know.

Justin Edelstein: I have no idea what else I'm gonna do with it other than like run. You can literally control. your Apple TV.

Jason Atwood: Now, I, ooh, I should have made this my pick. Maybe I'll make this my map song. I'll make my next week. Hey, I'm gonna put this for next week. Look at that pass book. That's cool.

Justin Edelstein: I'm putting my next week picks, so don't talk about it. I can put my boarding pass on there.

Jason Atwood: Okay, yes, you can put your boarding pass. All right, so let's get to, so that's Apple Watch. Let's talk about next time on before we make our picks of the week. Thank you. This came up. We haven't done a special episode in a while So I figured it was a good time to do it so next episode is gonna be called Guilty pleasure TV. Yes, so we're gonna pick what five or ten At least five each five each.

Justin Edelstein: Yeah. Okay, so five each and guilty pleasure television shows. Right, not,

Jason Atwood: These are good shows. Yeah, these are terrible shows, but we watched them anyway. So good. But so good. So good. But I watched them, but they're terrible.

Justin Edelstein: But like not, this is not Breaking Bad material.

Jason Atwood: No, no, no, no. This is not The Wire. In fact, you can't pick anything that was on your top 10 list. How's that?

Justin Edelstein: Nothing on there is guilty pleasure anyway. Right, no, that's true. So it's gonna be really trashy stuff.

Jason Atwood: But maybe we'll be uncovering some new things that other people would like to listen to. And it's been a while since we did the TV episode, so... People like your TV, I think. I think they did. No, we had people- Is there a rule that it has to be streaming?

Justin Edelstein: You must be able to stream it somehow.

Jason Atwood: Everything can be streamed at this point. Name a show that cannot be streamed. Homicide Life on the Streets. BAM! Did that right there in three seconds. No, it can be save your TiVo and then stream to your device. Any TiVo can do that. Where's it on TV?

32:37 Justin Edelstein: What do you mean? It's on TV.

Jason Atwood: Can't get it on my TiVo. It's not on television Oh, you're saying like you can't even get you get it on CD I have to get it on a DVD you can get it on TV and then you could rip it one then stream one and then put it on your device No, that's not called streaming.

Justin Edelstein: You could stream it from, ah, I can keep doing it. We're not doing that, that doesn't count. Oh, okay. Well, then I don't care, what does it matter? Well, I was asking, it's, you know, our cloud show here, should we care about that? We should also focus on things. Maybe we should make this, maybe the show should all be weekly.

Jason Atwood: See what I mean? See what I did there? Damn. You're good.

Justin Edelstein: You're lawyer or something? Why don't you wait down to pick here? I'm not writing it down.

Jason Atwood: Okay, so make your first and last pick of the week.

Justin Edelstein: So, there's this younger generation these days.

Jason Atwood: I love that you don't think you're in that generation. Well, I'm not, clearly.

Justin Edelstein: So this is like the weirdest thing. They all have Apple watches. Like, I don't even know how this app totally works. Like the whole thing behind it, because I just see all sorts of crap in here. But this and maybe I'm just so out of the loop on this and I'm going to sound stupid. But yeah, so my sister, my sister. Who is younger than I am my sister is 25 years old and she? Says to me She was she was buying something on behalf of myself My wife my other sister my brother-in-law and her and wedding gift for somebody the three of the three of us or the five of us Whatever we're shipping in to buy somebody something So she took the lead and bought it. So I had to get her money.

Justin Edelstein: So I said, oh, I'll just PayPal you money. She goes, I don't have PayPal. Like what kind of 25 year old doesn't have PayPal? I'm like, can I quick pay you? She's like, I don't have quick pay. Like, what the heck? How do you get money? Oh, yeah. Venmo yeah, Venmo me. I've heard this like Venmo What is Venmo from the other person who should not be named like alright? So I go sign up for a Venmo account first of all I feel like it's too easy Like it was just dumb easy to sign up for a Venmo account and all of a sudden you're like I mean you can do it with the like login with Facebook. I'm like no Ha no, thank you, but I feel like a lot of people do because when I open up my Venmo Yeah, I feel like a feed.

Justin Edelstein: It's like people are like paying people and it's like I don't know like I randomly know them I don't understand how this works. All I know is that you're so old I am old and I will say that the sign-up process for it was really easy, right? I said, it said, what bank account or what bank do you want to connect it to? And I said, Chase. And all I had to do is log into my Chase account through them and say and they brought back my accounts and said, which which account? That one done. Scary. Oh, yeah. As someone who like used to work. at a bank i was like whoa i guess i'm okay but now i'm seeing all these people paying people i don't know if i like this they're liking it and commenting on the payment like what do you everyone needs to like and comment on everything these i'll do the thing that you wouldn't do because i'm not a chicken i'll sign in with you it's dumb now your payments are just gonna be all on Facebook like every like Jason just paid Justin for whatever

36:08 Jason Atwood: Go into that place Then we would like to post on your friends behalf. Yeah No, don't do that. Don't do that. Oh, it makes you pick a new password. I always find what's the point of signing out? Oh, why am I doing it right?

Justin Edelstein: So anyway, it was really I was just like befuddled by the whole thing You have to send a text Yeah, it was a pretty easy sign up process I took like five minutes and all of a sudden I was sending money to my sister and then I've got a feed And I don't like that. I'm sorry. I don't like a feed for my money being paid. So anyway social payments So what does it do that? Anything different. No, I have no idea. It's just another to me. It's PayPal for kids PayPal for youngins

Jason Atwood: But when you can send my sir fees, I mean what you know, I have no idea

Justin Edelstein: She said send me a Venmo this much money. I said, okay Banks and cards. I'm not gonna wait to see you to hand you a check had a bank account Chase I'm trying it right now.

Jason Atwood: You're doing it right now. Yeah, yeah quick it is Well, that's why you kind of said it was so quick And so I'm really really

Justin Edelstein: Absurdly quick and yet I did a little thing on your like Al-Qaeda Like yeah, you did you just did that Wow. Thanks.

Jason Atwood: Oh, yeah, let's see. Oh, but a lot of verify by Oh, verify account by text message.

Justin Edelstein: Anyway, that's it. So, you can go on to your picks now. a Oh, did I pick the right one?

Jason Atwood: No, I picked the wrong. You're gonna screw this up. Yeah, I did. All right. I made, I had it text my home phone. That's not gonna work. all right, Venmo. Interesting. Venmo me. Thank you. I think someone else have shown me that once and I was like that looks interesting You know and and I like the way I'm just reading

Justin Edelstein: The little fine print Yeah, Venmo is a licensed money transmitter and a authorized delegate of PayPal Inc. Oh So it's a little bit PayPal. It's PayPal, but more fun Oh, okay more fun It's got this feed Venmo Yeah, they do. I like the feed who loves feeds businesses who run their business on Salesforce I just like the whole world the whole run my whole business on the world the whole world's a feed Yeah, so mine is another Kickstarter.

Jason Atwood: I have about six kickstarters coming to me starting now. I've gotten so many. So I can really just pick Kickstarter projects. Like it's like the time of Kickstarter. I'm getting all these Kickstarter projects. So this one is called Canary and it is... this was a long time ago. And I just got it, and I got it like last week, and I set it up, and I've been just kind of playing with it. So Canary, it's a small device, cylinder device, looks like maybe two, like a can and a half, like one of those big cans, like a, not a 40 ounce, maybe like a 16 ounce beer. I think that size, right? That's either black or silver or white. See you next week! that you give it power, so you plug it into the wall, it's USB powered.

39:21 Jason Atwood: And then in it, it has a bunch of stuff. It has a air sensor, it has a temperature sensor, it has a microphone, it has a camera, and that it connects up to your wireless. And then it also, and then you have an app. Now, I'll tell you, the process of connecting the app to the device had to be done through hardware. So I actually literally had like a like a cord.

Justin Edelstein: Yes I just talked about Venmo and no, no, but to set it up

Jason Atwood: Basically because it's a security system in order to actually connect there Yes, connect your device to this thing. You had to do it physically by putting the two things together and connecting, So I actually liked that because now what I can do with it, I'm so glad that no one else can do that. Sorry kids and wife. They, they're calling it a home, you know, like a home security system. I actually bought it, not four more so security, I bought it because of the monitoring. I'm really fascinated by monitoring things in my house and the air quality and temperature-temperature was something I was fascinated with. Being able to like, know at home like what the temperature is at home. So when I open it up, my app, like I'm here at the office right now, and this is the part that you, you know, so a couple things about it.

Jason Atwood: So let's talk about a couple of things about it. One is it has an app. When I open it up, I can to do a couple things. I can watch live, which means I then open up and I can watch. I'm at work and this is, I can see it's 19% humidity, 72 degrees and like And it has modes. the privacy mode means that it's turned off and it's not paying a I the But so it has location awareness so when I leave the house it automatically arms. What does arm mean? I will try,

Justin Edelstein: But you haven't told me what it means.

Jason Atwood: No, what does it mean? The word armed or something? What how armed? Then it is now and it's watching for most. motion. So here it then can send me signals. Let me turn that. Oh, I didn't want to do that. I just turned it off. I want to turn it down. Me not knowing how to use my own thing. So here, I guess it's actually now. Let's hope this is like something going on. It's actually my house cleaner. So it detects motion and sends me a ping when it detects motion and then records it.

Justin Edelstein: She has no clue you're watching her. So I am,

Jason Atwood: This is a video of my Wow, just his face just went insane.

42:28 Justin Edelstein: His face just went insane. Oh my god! It's a security system. You need like glared at the camera. You need like four of those. Just for that.

Jason Atwood: So I have this setup in my apartment that I can see that I literally and I live in a New York City system. Can you imagine being like...

Justin Edelstein: You stole my blah blah blah and her being like no it didn't and you being like here's the here's the video here's the video of you

Jason Atwood: Doing it so it detects motion and then as it's hard and then records the whatever it can see now obviously I'm just playing around with it I tell my wife that it's in the apartment shoulder So she knows. Me too. I did not. I told you, I should have told you.

Justin Edelstein: You should know because now the next time I'm gonna have to look like. Oh man, something's gonna happen. Oh, other things I can do with it. I'm totally gonna be very inappropriate with your with your canary.

Jason Atwood: I can sound an alarm. Do it now. No, no, no. That would be very bad. In the thing. So I can sound an alarm. It is so a lot of activity today got seven pinks because the house cleaner is in there and where does it store all that? So you stores it online in the cloud. This is one of the things that I kind of did here for the storage not for now There's a free like you can have so much storage, but then you can you know you can

Justin Edelstein: Does it have a purging process where you can be like? Okay, don't need these anymore, because it was just me walking around.

Jason Atwood: Well, it wouldn't be you, because you're at home and it would disarm when you're at home. Oh, because your phone's in your pocket. Yeah, that's what's so cool about it. So it's, so what they're saying, the way they're comparing it, so it's 249 bucks. And they're basically saying, hey, why do you need a full like security system, like one of these thousands and thousands dollars? Okay, there's what's going on in the house right now. 9. 9. 12. Laughing well with this, but look at that camera. I mean, I mean pretty good It's like HD quality is HD quality you can zoom in nothing's happening in your house right now It's happening very quiet very quiet is nobody home. I think the someone's being picked up or they're going somewhere No, yeah, they went. I'm in no way nobody's home.

Justin Edelstein: Nobody's home in Jason's house. Go rob go rob him I know but don't cuz when you walk in security Yeah Anyway, it's pretty cool.

Jason Atwood: It's it's a little freaky and yes when I got the the ping today And then I looked in and I saw my house cleaner actually clean the house It was spooky, but it records it. So again, it's kind of like a security system Anyway, I don't know. I'm I did it as a as a Kickstarter. It's very cool It's a little creepy but I would say if you own an apartment like a singular person own an apartment and you just want to put like a good security system in it or without having to like put things to the wall and whatever. I mean 250 bucks for what it gives you. And you,

45:37 Justin Edelstein: You sort of, while it's not tiny.

Jason Atwood: Justin's head is spinning. He's trying to think. While it's not tiny. hurting him.

Justin Edelstein: Yes. It's not big either. It's not big. So you showed, I was sitting in your apartment the other day. You couldn't even find it knowing you could video tape in the back of your head. You said you wanted to see something cool? And I was like, and you handed me the phone and said, click the button. And I clicked it and it was like, it was me from behind. From behind. And I was like, oh, you have a camera in here. Interesting. And then I turned, I was trying to find it. And I knew exactly where it was because it was like. I was looking at myself and I couldn't, it didn't look out of place. If you knew what you were looking for in the exact spot to look for it, you'd definitely see it.

Justin Edelstein: But without knowing that, you bdef I definitely don't know what's there.

Jason Atwood: So you've seen this stuff like there's a thing called drop cam,

Justin Edelstein: Which you probably saw ads for. I was here of like the nanny cam.

Jason Atwood: Well, the drop cam is very similar. So like. I don't know if it does, let's drop Cam Pro. It's like 300, okay, so drop Cam is $199, but it's just a camera. I, I don't know if it does on either, oh, seven day of cloud recording, $99 a year. It's so crazy. I just basically wanna tell anybody now, if you ever think you're off camera, you're not. So if you're gonna walk around your house nude, if you're gonna at your friend's house, like. go do the appropriate thing. of events recorded within the past 12 hours. The Canary Cloud, is that Amazon?

Justin Edelstein: Where is the Canary Cloud? Yes, it's Amazon.

Jason Atwood: The Canary Cloud. Privacy and security auditing, transparent user accounts. So anyway, a pretty interesting little device. I'm not sure. Anyway, I'm not sure that this is the greatest thing ever. I kind of like it. I like it for the monitoring. The one thing I've already thought about a feature that I'd like is to be able to voice into it. So to basically be able to say, hey stop, get out of my house. I'm gonna go, oh, shop, or whatever. I mean the siren is cool. It also has a light on the bottom. Hey, nice pants. It also has a light on the bottom that tells you what it's doing. So it's a green or yellow or red. Red means it's monitoring. So if you know what you're looking at, you can look at it and tell whether it's on or not.

Jason Atwood: I'm totally... Which is both good, but then it's also bad because if you're trying to make it innocuous, having this little red light, especially at night, like if it was dark, you would see this red light in the corner. Maybe you think it's one of a million things, but anyway, yeah, you could put tape over or something, but anyway, I think it's... Does it have night vision? It... I don't know. It's pretty good at night. It's pretty good at night.

Justin Edelstein: Feature request, night vision.... Anyway, I'm kind of like,

48:37 Jason Atwood: I'm both like totally fascinated by it, but freaked out. All right, why don't we wrap it up? and we'll do, without a we are, a show next week. We'll still do pics of the week, so don't skip on your pic of the week. Remember, you can follow us at justedlstein at Jason Atwood, at arkaseinc, facebook.com slash arkaseinc, the success community group, best place to go if you're a Salesforce person, get in there and look for CloudFocus Weekly. We, of course, are on LinkedIn, Google Plus, you can subscribe on... And review, please, let's get some 2015 reviews. You have not reviewed us on either iTunes and Stitcher or both, please go and review us on iTunes or Stitcher or both. That would be great. Otherwise, no more podcasts for you. Alright, and then until next week, we'll be back.

Jason Atwood: Justin Jason saying, enjoy. those cloudy days.

Justin Edelstein: You