Holiday Cheer - Episode #202 of CloudFocus Weekly

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00:11 Jason Atwood: This is the 202nd episode of CloudFocus Weekly for third and pretty much last for everybody listening week. of December 2014. This episode is titled Holiday Cheer. CloudFocus Weekly for you by clone this user, clone an existing Salesforce user with a click of a button by the desktop or in Salesforce one mobile available for free. on the AppExchange or go to clonethisuser.com, which will bring you to the AppExchange. I'm your host, Jason Elwin, and joining me, the cheeriest of all Cheermeisters, Justin Cheerleader Edelstein. Cheery, cheery, cheering-go. How are you?

Justin Edelstein: I don't even know how to respond.

Jason Atwood: To that introduction Cheeringly do like my hat you are wearing the Salesforce success community

Justin Edelstein: Zone This is Dreamforce 13 I guess you'd call this a fedora. I call it a Heisenberg. It's more of a Heisenberg. It is a fedora It's a felt fedora. Yeah It's special. I wore it for this episode. It's special as I like to say.

Jason Atwood: It's cheery. Not really cheery. It is cheery. Cheerio. I'm in a jacket.

Justin Edelstein: It's not what the people say. You're not wearing a jacket. Why would you even say I'm in a jacket? I'm wearing a jacket today. I had to wear a jacket today. Like I wore this all day. I'm wearing it for this episode. No, you wear this other bad looking hat. This is a great looking hat. No, that hat is... You have no style. I literally have zero style. That's the thing.

Jason Atwood: Yeah says the man in the in the ruffling This shirt's awesome and your ween shirt, that's right and a success

Justin Edelstein: Community at each New York I should tweet this out right anyone who knows the I boob nice New York shirt tweet that at me Yeah.

Jason Atwood: Wow, that's not gonna happen. Alright, we have things that are gonna happen today. We have an agenda. If my computer doesn't crash in the middle of it. Your computer might just do that. And then there'll be no podcast. And you guys will never know. You'll never know if there was a podcast or not. But so far, so good. I've been having issues. The Lost Episodes. The Lost Episodes. Luckily, the computer crashed last week in the second episode. Which for this listing on it doesn't matter at all. But it happened. So we're gonna do, we're talking about our blog post of the week, we'll talk about BitTorrent browser, we'll talk about Salesforce File Connect. We have a note, we have stuff that's gonna talk about next week, next time, and we'll finish off with some CloudFocus App Pick of the Week and some holiday cheer.

Justin Edelstein: I don't even know what that means. Oh, you wrote it. I think I'm gonna sing. We're gonna make you sing. So that's the end of the session. Thanks for watching. I'm trying to think of a non-dominant non-denominational song single ween song

Jason Atwood: That's fine But first I'd like to remind you if you are listening this podcast and you have and you're not seeing it in one of your feeds Resubscribe so go to whatever you're using. I don't care with downcast insta cast recast I can't see casts Whatever tune should have worked still resubscribe. Anyway, we're on episode 202 now if you only see one 97 and somehow you listen to this,

03:33 Justin Edelstein: You know, it's funny. Is that I haven't done it. So I'm stuck on one 97. And in my area,

Jason Atwood: I'm not, I am up to date.

Justin Edelstein: So I download and I sometimes listen. I sometimes listen. I just want to make sure it works. Yeah, clearly right now it's not working for me. No, it's not dumb.

Jason Atwood: So the blog post of the week to end up this year, actually we have two more for the year. which we will talk about next year. We will. one is going to be on trialhead. Yes, trailhead. Trailhead, not trialhead. Trailhead. And the second is going to be... the fantastic written a couple weeks ago, yearly fifth year in a row. Cloud computing computing predictions for 2015. So that will be up there. So all these at blog.argasinc.com. But this week it was ideas delivered in Salesforce releases. As one of the partners who remain... not named, I guess. I'm gonna name Anonymous, said to me, really? Another Winter 15 vlog post?

Justin Edelstein: You know, it's kind of funny. This wasn't really meant to be a really a Winter 15 vlog post, especially with Spring right around the corner, but it just so happened that, you know, we wanted to pay some love to ideas that were delivered in... in general terms, Salesforce releases, but so we wanted to write a little bit about that and then winter happens to be the last release. So it was, well, let's just throw the ones that were done in winter.

Jason Atwood: And there's some updates to the ID Exchange.

Justin Edelstein: That's part of why we wanted to write it.

Jason Atwood: Because there's- I love that when you say we, there's more than one person who wants to do an AS. We arcus. Oh, we arcus. The royal we you know when you say it doesn't sound bad we are kiss we are kiss. It almost sounds like we are kiss The group It's gone silent Anyway, so this one so talking about sort of the idea exchange, you know There's been some updates on the art list of whole bunch ones including one that I put in there which has 40 over this 40 points and it got delivered. So clearly.

Justin Edelstein: Did you get your badge in the community? I got a badge. So why don't you explain what that is to the listening audience? Yeah, so in the success community, which is where IdeasLives, success.salesforce.com, where you can single sign in using your Salesforce username and password. There is the notion of work.com in there with thanks. So there's obviously chatter in that community and within there, there's recognition tab on your profile. And when you submit an idea that gets released, you will get a badge. like an innovator badge, it's like a moon man type of thing. I have one, it's very cool, very proud of my badge. I think I have three ideas that I've submitted that are now in the product. It's pretty cool. Although I only have one badge. So anyway, badges.

06:48 Justin Edelstein: Cool. And that's one of the things that we mentioned in the post, idea, innovator badges.

Jason Atwood: So that's pretty cool. And the other thing that's happened is that they now have those two things that they're trying to do in the idea exchange. One is get the categories of ideas, sort of like get it a little bit less. You have to pick from 500 million things. Which is good. Fewer categories. the categories. also now talking about where the ideas are. Sort of in different categories right or they're sort of where they are in the system right under point threshold Which says hey this idea? Sorry, we're not gonna touch this until it gets over a certain point. Do you know that is is 1000 2000 we I don't know the thresholds. Okay. Well, it's a threshold It's a threshold and then like what then it goes in and somewhat arbitrary like if it's a brilliant idea And it really just needs to happen.

Justin Edelstein: Like yours, your 40 point idea. Yeah. That didn't, I'm sure it was under the threshold. I still made it into the product. Because sometimes, you know, they're ahead of you on this stuff. Right. They're already working on it. Right. Someone just throws it on the idea exchange and then boom. That's right. That's the best kind of ideas. Yeah.

Jason Atwood: Although it's kind of partially delivered, I don't know, whatever. It's not exactly what I wanted. Not precisely what you wanted, but it's close enough. And then they have things like product team review. That means, hey, someone is taking a look at this. Right. And might do something with it. Maybe. And recently there's been a lot of activity. One of the things that they like to have do is to have the product team once or somebody within Salesforce come in and put a comment on it telling you, hey, it's voice... We're doing something with this. I like how they're stick. What else there was the other one there was another one that was fun Do you do what was this? Oh, yeah data water from Mac ideas success community. It moved to a let's, see That's nice.

Justin Edelstein: Is now under consideration. That's an interesting concept to be on platform.

Jason Atwood: Here's another one. I was tweeting all these. Go on. Optionally notify notification when meeting invite these declined counter counter events.

Justin Edelstein: That would be good. Get that in there please.

Jason Atwood: It'll make... well, we have that because we built something for it, but... How about just make them easier for people to accept?

Justin Edelstein: At that point,

Jason Atwood: I want that better than I want this, but maybe that's what they're working You can go ahead and see them. I don't know, mine's pretty good, but let's

10:46 Justin Edelstein: I do think right into the make any sense. changing the way the web works. So talk about, like a very, very definitive statement. Yeah, exactly what you're planning on doing.

Jason Atwood: I, I I Well, they don't give you a lot of what it's going to do, but let's talk about what BitTorrent is. So BitTorrent is a distributed network for file sharing, right? Sometimes considered for file sharing of things that are not supposed to be shared, but let's take that away from the conversation. So I think is that what they're kind of saying is if you had a browser that kind of could connect and distribute content and things on the internet sort of built into your browsing experience that it takes away from the having things controlled at certain end points and brings it to destroyed controlled in the browser. What that means from a web slash video slash audio slash whatever aspect, I'm not sure I kind of have a full understanding of. But a I love browsers.

Jason Atwood: And if you're gonna start a new browser and you're gonna make it fun and interesting, I'm all in. I'm in on I'm in on you. Yeah, you got me a new browsers. I've tried I don't know 30 40 different browsers. So I like browsers. I like it when people pushing the space like saying, oh, we're going to try to do something different in this blog post or more informative than the actual blog post. Right.

Justin Edelstein: And they're talking about how the actual, you knowItaly K. o. The web page. Your quest goes through the ISP through all the different hops to, right? To the R to come back to you. That's correct prospective. And instead of actually going through all those hops, sort of just hop to somebody else who's on the browser and come back to you and skipping. All those things in the middle, which can serve you ads and all that other nonsense, right? And block content potentially.

Jason Atwood: Things like that so this is so basically your so basically everybody i'm just really oversimplifying but everybody becomes an internet web server right so you're browsing something and i go to browse the same thing is sees us on the same network it could grab the data from you.

13:55 Justin Edelstein: Not from the original web server right skipping all the things in the middle so.

Jason Atwood: As a webmaster from way back in the dizay, that means I don't see you browse my website.

Justin Edelstein: No, I don't think you would. Yeah,

Jason Atwood: I mean from making content and keeping things free and cool. Don't you dare set a cookie on my browser. You're setting a cookie on me. I'm setting... I'm the cookie monster. You don't even know what that means. Anyway, I just thought it was too cool not to mention. I'll be following this. I signed up for the alpha. Good for you. If it comes, it'll be great. I think the thing with browsers is, and they're sticky. They're like banks when you have online banking. They're sticky. Once you get to like a browser, it's kind of tough to get you off to another browser. Not me. Really? Well, I use three. Yeah, but if a new one came out, would you just start using immediately? No, I mean,

Justin Edelstein: At this point, Chrome, if I were to get a brand new computer tomorrow and I wouldn't and I didn't like port everything from the setup of this current computer, the new one, I would definitely and it would be a Mac. So I'd have Safari and I would definitely download Chrome and I probably wouldn't bother with Firefox and those would be my two browsers. Yeah.

Jason Atwood: Right, but I'm saying that's not the question, by the way. That was the question. The question was if a new browser came out tomorrow. No. Unless it offered something unique. Super unique.

Justin Edelstein: Speed. But again, it was like, I don't know, back in, it was tabs. It was like, oh.- Get me off IE, I need tabs. Right.

Jason Atwood: Now, I don't even find a very big difference when I jump between speed nows become pretty darn fast. They're all and that'll kind of push me in one direction or not. Other than that I just use browsers as sort of as sort of division of labor. I use Yes, that way project Maelstrom.- That's what it's called interesting. I mean again BitTorrent is sort of known for for shaking things up a little bit. I'm not a big big turn for it. I have a friend. I have a friend of mine who like literally is like, oh yeah, any book you want, any movie, any whatever. Never done it.

Justin Edelstein: I literally can say I've never even done I don't even think I don't even know how to even say I've never done it I've never done a bit torrent you've never never never bit it you've never never been tormented I don't even know how to say it yeah I have so not my thing I think I

17:00 Jason Atwood: Played around with it back in the day like a long time ago probably when it was like for super geeks and yeah like figure it out I don't feel like I've ever consumed anything. I feel like I would try and then it would take too long or then I'd see a thousand connections coming in at me.

Justin Edelstein: 16 applications to open up a file to put something together. My understanding is it's very easy

Jason Atwood: And not to get on the high horse, but get off your high horse. I also feel like for stuff that I'm gonna consume. I'm gonna You get off your I or we're talking to someone the other day about rent books from the library. You can get digital books from the library. So you have a we literally get a digital library account and then you know from your local library and then they have so many digital books. So let's say they have like Stephen King's new book. They have like five copies of it digitally and then you put it in your list and then when it comes available, you then can download it. Put it in your reader, read it for 21 days, and then you have to give it back, like a real book. Like a real library.

Jason Atwood: In some ways, it's cool. You can get free books, buy it digitally, you don't actually have to go to the library. Why do they only have five copies? Because otherwise, it's just ridiculous. That's sort of the interesting piece of it, is that you have copies of the book, just like a library has five copies. So in some ways it's cool because it's definitely going towards a new world new world. right of digital content. In some ways it's still there. But in some ways it's so crazy. I was talking to this person about it and haven't read and mostly haven't read. So I'm kind, I, I'm kind of there and actually just now we're rattling Amazon. Amazon just released a new feature of their Kindle which allows you to share with a family member just like itunes has.

Jason Atwood: So my wife is a massive book reader and consumed and buys all her books on Kindle. So I've kind of been waiting for this and I got my Kindle to connect to her Kindle and it's. It's a little, you basically have to hand your Kindle to the other person so they pump in their information. So, I guess that works. Anyway, I then go into her collection. Four hundred and ninety eight books. So it's like I got my own little mini library I can now go in through at any time and grab any book. I don't need another library. And at the, you know, $7.99, that's in the, I don't really care. That's how much a book costs on Amazon for Kindle. Yeah, it's 799 999 like brand new releases are in the the 1399 that's pretty cheap, isn't it?

Justin Edelstein: Like what are the high books or doesn't that same thing now they all cost the same. Yeah, I know so little. Yeah, well, you don't read.

Jason Atwood: Alright, so that's the idea. So let's move on to our next topic of Salesforce files connect this article on Tic-tic-crunch.

20:07 Justin Edelstein: Just one of these fluff pieces. But I'm not even really ready to talk about this. Well, then I'll talk about it by myself. I just feel like it's not real. These announcements happen all the time. Yeah. Where there's like the new partnership integration product thing say farber Until this is real and people are really using it This to me is not a thing Sorry guys, well, so I'm going to go on tech crunch. That's cool.

Jason Atwood: The article is That Salesforce has announced that they were going to I think the interesting pieces that they're kind of not gonna build their own They're gonna make it connect with other stuff So I like this part of it in the article says in English That means that if you store your digital goods on other services, but use them inside of Salesforce's various tools, you have a far simpler way to do so with this new files connect. They're going to do SharePoint first and OneDrive, and then Google Drive, which we're huge users of, as next. So what does this mean? I feel like this means that the world between Google Drive and Salesforce... is going to get tighter and better and searchier and connectier and to me that's awesome. Because right now they're very very separate.

Jason Atwood: They are it's literally a link from one thing to another thing. Having them work together in a kind of collaborative way I likey. What that means I don't know. But, but I likey. You don't even know what it means. No, I like it. Google Drive. You say just Google Drive and Salesforce and I'm happy. Moving on. We're up to our holiday cheer part of the conversation.

Justin Edelstein: Let me ask you, do you have time?

Jason Atwood: For a quick question. Yeah, I think we're 21 minute 22 minutes in the computer hasn't crashed yet.

Justin Edelstein: That's good Have you taken part in this podcast phenomenon the serial podcast

Jason Atwood: Nope, I've heard about it through Your wife. Yes The little lady.

Justin Edelstein: The little lady. She was just finishing it yesterday. And the last episode came out, I guess, this week. And... Well, I listened to the first one. And? well, I don't know how it ends. And then? And then? I think it's rather brilliant. And then?

Jason Atwood: Alright, I'm done. No. Alright, go ahead. Sorry. No- No, I'm done.

Justin Edelstein: So, explain to me if I didn't know- Nope, you're just, you ruined the whole thing. And then?

Jason Atwood: Keep going! What is it? Explain it. People love our banter. You know what they like? Tell me what it is. I really want to know. You don't. I do. I'd like to know why the first episode, because you're a big podcast listener anyway. You listen to, I think, a bunch of sports podcasts. You subscribe to your own podcast. Do. And... That's it. Sad but true. It's basically ESPN and your two. No. Yes.

23:26 Justin Edelstein: .. Yes. So, this is from the folks at This American Life. Mm-hmm. And it's called Serial. And it's spelled like a series of things. Spelled like a series of things. Or like the thing to eat. No, a series of things. Okay, just for people. Because that's what it is, it's a series.

Jason Atwood: That may be cool. They're calling it Serial and spelling it C-Y-R-L-T. No, once a week,

Justin Edelstein: A new episode comes out and it's an investigative reporter. Okay. working back on a crime, a real one, like in this, as I understand it, and it's all real, all real and she's basically doing her investigation as. Like she's piecing everything together as a podcast. So like, she's interviewing people, she's reading like pieces of, what do you call it? Like clues and whatnot, like information. She's reading it and she's piecing it together as a story. So it's kind of like taking like a real life crime and turning it into a... You should have little behind the scenes into like a real investigative reporters world and she did it for Like specifically it's it's like made really well done well produced and I plan on listening to the rest of them a lot of them over vacation while laying on the beach and I'm just gonna download the whole thing now that it's done so I can just listen to them all the way through because people have been like you know, listening to them one a week and like waiting until next week almost like a TV show where it's like a podcast that has like To me podcasts are very singular.

Justin Edelstein: It's like one episode done Well, you could listen to the best episode you ever listen to. Yeah, but you can hop into this whenever you want You didn't miss anything last week. And if you miss this week, you're not gonna miss it You just listen to next week. Like there's nothing there's no facts that you're losing here This isn't a but I find it rather interesting that they've created a podcast hence the name cereal, I'm sure it also has to do with the crime that she's solving or trying to solve. I don't know if she solves it. I have no idea. She just,

26:35 Jason Atwood: The, the first episode is like really just laying it out. So 2,402 ratings on it. That is a ton.

Justin Edelstein: Yeah. It's new.

Jason Atwood: Well, Yeah, 13 weeks old. Yeah, that's pretty good. I literally as we spoke, I queued it up and I now have 12 downloading into my downcast. So I'm going to download them all. And how long are they each one? Fifty five hours. Yeah.

Justin Edelstein: It's like an hour show once a week. I mean.

Jason Atwood: It's a cool new use of podcasts, kind of, but it's... isn't this radio shows since the dawn of time?

Justin Edelstein: I think in the dawn of time radio shows were like that and then they changed. Radio shows aren't like that anymore. Right, I think it's cool that we get to go back to a medium... A new medium went back to me that the medium it was modeled after used to be in its golden age.

Jason Atwood: I think it's really cool Yeah, I'm in I mean I'm a huge huge fan of podcasts obviously I'll tell you the medium I use it for is Meet the Press. So Meet the Press is a Television show comes on Sunday right? I don't want to have a serialized show. I don't watch anything but it's video I understand video, but the right the point is I use my I use my Podcast app as a DVR because there's a show that I like to watch that. I don't watch on Sunday because football's on Sunday.

Justin Edelstein: If you're going to compare it to Hulu, Netflix would never have meet the press.

Jason Atwood: I shouldn't say never. Yeah, that's right. Don't say never. I mean, these places are all going towards having their own series.

Justin Edelstein: Amazon's going to having their own series. I like the Amazon model of the way that they do it too. You wouldn't like it. Because one at a time. Well, they throw the cloud pick of the week. Yeah, and then you sort of like vote on it or whatever.

Jason Atwood: That's fine, but I'm not doing that. Yeah, you don't like that. Nope. I got so many shows to catch up on. I'm gonna make that your cloud pick of the week. Alright, that's my pick of the week. So then I'm gonna make a podcast.

Justin Edelstein: You're gonna remove this pick I have here. Yes, you're gonna just move it to the next one. Okay, you make next time next year.

Jason Atwood: I think it's cool. I actually said once in a while we should do Oh, you got a cereal. I'll make a podcast pick as well.

Justin Edelstein: I'm not meet the press So whenever there's an out keynote,

29:53 Jason Atwood: I GTD virtual study group. And don't listen to this always, but once in a while, and I'm feeling like when you want to fall asleep No, I actually put on you when I want to fall asleep. Okay? But then I listen to me and I get all, you know, like, D D D D D D D D I've never actually been in a study study. I've never actually been in a study. I guess the part is you hear some people and you're like, yeah, you're totally off base. What are you doing? Then you hear another person say, oh, that, you know, they'll give a really good, you know, theory on something. I'm like, oh, that's an interesting way to think about it. Anyway, there have been some other, they have like different topics. So like, I'm just going back reading off some of the podcasts they've done before, you know, developing your higher horizons.

Jason Atwood: The weekly review, context, reference material, inbox zero. So they kind of covered these big ones. The one they have this month that's interesting is the year in review.

Justin Edelstein: A get a glass of water.

Jason Atwood: I'm gonna move my pick out. I'm gonna put GTD, virtual study group, study group. Also, if you like not just doing apps and doing like books, although he doesn't read,

Justin Edelstein: Or TV shows,

Jason Atwood: Or. Again, I'm full of TV shows. Yes, you are. I'm so good at that. Yeah, it's terrible Then let us know and you can let us know on Twitter at just Eddlesteen at at Jason at wood at Arca sync Facebook.com slash SES community group LinkedIn Google Plus I hope we have two reviews on iTunes. You can also review and subscribe on iTunes or on Stitcher. We have some neat things coming up here. Some new plans, some new fun things we're going to be doing. And next time we've heard that the spring, the first set of spring 15 release notes will be and,

34:15 Justin Edelstein: Thanks for watching!