Apple Updates - Episode #229 of CloudFocus Weekly

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00:10 Jason Atwood: This is the 229th episode of CloudFocus Weekly for the last week of September 2015, maybe day, two days. This episode is titled Apple Updates. This episode of CloudFocus, we brought to you by clone existing Salesforce user with a clickable button by the desktop or Salesforce One mobile lightning something. Available for free on the AppExchange or go to www.clownususer.com. I'm your host, Chase Nowin. and join me, co microbiota 229 times in a row. Might be a record. Justin Edelstein Justin how you doing today? I'm doing 3 That, that's true, you know, but you got it you got Thanksgiving coming up there you got Because while we were in the midst of, I think, was it the

Justin Edelstein: Lots of phones, can't play with it, can't touch, can't touch it. I've heard some things like... Do you R that I, the

03:11 Jason Atwood: I've heard this whole 3D touch, you know, been done better. Which is that when you press, you don't just press, you can,, and it recognizes how hard you're pushing and now icons will pop up like sub menus. So you're on the Apple, let's say maps and you can hold and it pops up a sub menu then you can do, or the camera icon and there the selfie sub menu. So it's kind of quick access into things inside the app without. to do is do, it's really cool. You know what reminds me of? Right click. Control click or right click. Yes it. It's a right click. It's a right click with with your thumb. the plus right at the more bigger and with different screens and I'll back. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,.

Jason Atwood: If you feel like,

Justin Edelstein: If you feel like you.

Jason Atwood: The same kind of thing like pay this per I- Right.

06:31 Justin Edelstein: Like they didn't really show a whole lot of outside of being a creative use for this thing.

Jason Atwood: It does seem to be kind of stuck in the career things like I mean, I mean the technology looks very cool and the way a way you can test shift and if you shift it does different.

Justin Edelstein: Could you tell me what you might. potentially use it for? I love to think that I'm an artist I love to

Jason Atwood: Think

Justin Edelstein: I love

Jason Atwood: To think I love to think I'm about the iPad Pro is... Well, obviously it's a Surface Play, right? I mean, if you've said that in three years they're going to have a, a huge iPad, it's going to have a keyboard and a stylus, you'd be like, yeah, right. What Steve Jobs not alive anymore? Oh yeah, that's right. Because now they've done that. So the keyboard, I'm kind of like, hmm, I haven't played with that one yet. I have to get the Apple Store and try it. So that's kind of like, oh, I'm kind of in on an Apple built.

Justin Edelstein: I and they look really good.

Jason Atwood: So this to me doesn't... But so I think this gets to the kind of with a 12 like a 13 inch. This is a 13 inch laptop.

Justin Edelstein: It's not a laptop. It's still an iPad.

Jason Atwood: That's the thing is like the this is where I'm and you add that with iOS 9 which has and picture in picture and side by side and all this stuff. So with the iPad Pro, it's clearly just like you're getting to...

Justin Edelstein: You're still like, I I think I again I didn't even I was like oh great you have a bigger iPad good for you And and really I just thought boy.

Jason Atwood: I'd like to have to have one I like to have one at home I want my mini beside your bed.

Justin Edelstein: No, I want my mini to which they did rev quietly very quietly I just want a

09:37 Jason Atwood: I could the time I could see it is like if I want to consume video I rather have a bigger iPad Of course right bigger is better for video

Justin Edelstein: And video games I guess but even like our favorite our favorite iOS game Madden I can't even imagine being able to play it on that because it's too big I don't I wouldn't want that's the thing I wouldn't play it on that That's so stupid it's like here's this thing play a video game on it It's too big. Yeah,

Jason Atwood: That's that's dumb. I think it's for consuming bigger sets. And again with iOS nine and then being able to split the screens, I think you could be like, oh, I'm kind of H. more in a, it's getting closer to being a laptop replacement. I think it's far away.

Justin Edelstein: Like if you were to take two iPad Airs and put them next to each other, it's basically that size. So for splitting the screens and stuff, it's good for the app sizes that don't, I would presume they wouldn't have to do too much, I guess. But I'm not interested at all. It's, like, here's a bigger iPad. I'm like, the one I have is the mini and it's big enough. Right. Well, that's, I think we're, we're on the same wavelength.

Jason Atwood: I, I want a better mini, not a bigger iPad. time.

Justin Edelstein: All right, so we're not so thrilled on the longest waited, longest All right, whatever. Custom complications. I'm not.

Jason Atwood: There's some nice little things to it. There's nothing.

Justin Edelstein: All right, let's talk about this Apple TV. Apple TV.

Jason Atwood: So it looks exactly like the old tablet TV.

Justin Edelstein: But it has- But it's stacked on top of itself. It's bigger.

Jason Atwood: But it's now, it now has a full on remote with Siri built in a hard drive super cool it now has a hard drive or Well, it has a as data. Well, I used to have data, but it's just very small now it has because I used to have like eight, like four gigabytes because I still remember the original one was a drive.

Justin Edelstein: 40 and I had a driver 80 if you're like crazy.

Jason Atwood: I think I replaced. I think I bought one that you could replace the drive and did like to broke your warranty and then.

Justin Edelstein: I mean now you get to choose again. Do you want what were the sizes like 40 and 80 again or 32 and 64? 32 and 64. So I assume that's the more apps because that's the big thing is apps.

12:41 Jason Atwood: They have they're having games. They have they'll be just apps on the TV, which is something that I feel like has been long, long, long, long, long related or long overdue.

Justin Edelstein: Overdue. Thank you. But I don't know how these games are gonna work.

Jason Atwood: I think, oh, I have a Roku and the Roku has games on it. Yeah, I know exactly how it's going to work. I mean, the device isn't as nice, but it's kind of the same thing. You get it.

Justin Edelstein: Are there like real games? I don't know. I don't think so. The game that they demoed was like a blank. Was like, OK. I mean, they multiplayer. Here's what I want live like things I watch live. Yeah sports events. Yes, but everything is going there. That's what I want I want all those apps and I want all my cable provider or my cable provider to comply I think our computer does everything except for Every don't do any film network. They do SPN They don't do some of ESPN though. I don't even know if they watch ESPN. Do they do the live stuff though? Yeah, watch ESPN. Sure. I feel like I ran into some issue the other day with it. Yeah, but I feel like I ran into some issue with a live thing.

Jason Atwood: This is the bet that Apple is betting on is that no one is sort of the death of cable and the start of everything's an app. And everything's app's a nice theory. getting to your content in everything's an app is a pain. So I wanna watch the Daily Show. Where is it? Well, it's on Apple TV, it's in Hula Plus, it's in Comedy Central.

Justin Edelstein: They solve for that. Right, with search. Search,

Jason Atwood: Across everything. If they do that well and all the Apple app makers have to kinda comply and make it work,. I think this becomes the thing that we're all kinda waiting for. It's like the death of cable. Now. There's certain things in the world of TiVo and all that and taking things with you and I don't know the games are sort of changing. All I love it is I love TV. I love Apple TV. Give me more apps. Awesome. What can we do? It'd be fun things. I don't even know. There's going to be things that people invent that are just going to be awesome. That's what I kind of like is that somehow, like. like OmniFocus on an Apple TV. Yes, I want some of that.

Justin Edelstein: Someone will come up with something fun. Like you would say, oh, oh, it'd be cool to play our Madden game that we talk about. But then I thought about it and it like doesn't work. You use your phones. Yeah, but what are you looking at? The, the screen. And how do you control it? We can look at either side. How do you actually control it? On your phone. And what are you looking at? There's no buttons on your phone. Yes, there are. There's a two virtual buttons. Same buttons you looking on the phone, but they're not in a physical location So it's it'd be really you'd be like I press the button and you'd be like, you know A quarter inch away from the button and you wouldn't have pressed the button. I thought about it It doesn't work.

15:56 Justin Edelstein: It will work. It doesn't you need for video games you actually what may happen is third party remotes that are more geared towards gaming. Well they have, yeah. Like game controllers. Right. That'll happen because you need those, because I was thinking about our Madden game and how you played on TV, I really was, and I was like, I don't think it works. We're obsessed with that. Because you need like places to press on the screen to throw the ball, like it just doesn't work. Like which receiver to throw to I don't know. I'll just Where are you looking up or down? Like it just doesn't work. All right I think it'll work hold the thing in front of you like this you get a mount Do you like put a helmet on and mount it Siri throw it to the wider see right throw open throw it to canoe All right.

Jason Atwood: Let's get away from our bad game. All right, so Is there anything else in the announcement? New user interface. We got the Apple games store and it's... Yeah, I just think apps is where we're gonna... Someone's gonna build something that I'm gonna be like, oh, I never even thought of that use case.

Justin Edelstein: And I'm really... And now I'm cool with it. Well, it's gonna have to be because a lot of these things that they were talking about, I'm like, I already have that.

Jason Atwood: Right, but this is... The Apple's never had the ability. So like someone's gonna build like Some sort of ability to watch live TV like some some sort of TV emulator or something like someone's gonna go crazy and do something that we're gonna put oh

Justin Edelstein: That's that's crazy right some for what will company lets you do it no it's do Apple TV I know but they would have the cable Company would have to let you this is where that company that I paid for that then died that arrow arrow because everyone Go ahead and crushed it I just wonder if the cable company could sort of cut you off at the tracks by being like, no, you can't use this app. Not going to allow.

Jason Atwood: Again, NFL Network on their direct TV. It just means stuff. Direct TV will build an app. I just need stuff that I can watch live.

Justin Edelstein: I just said stuff that moved. Give me my Red Zone app. Yes, and let me pay less for it than I have to pay my cable company. They already have the app It's the red zone.

Jason Atwood: You can see red zone on on

Justin Edelstein: NFL mobile do but I don't have that sorry. I'm having it for mobile. You don't have any for mobile.

Jason Atwood: No, okay Anyway, let's move on an MO B app with everything. I mean just think about it that one that they demo looked awesome, right? They have some stuff that's come right had the picture-in-picture like This is the thing since it's apps the apps are being built by other people That means Apple doesn't have to pay attention to them anything kind of let them go crazy and do whatever they want to do I can see amazing stuff coming You know is there placing anything I have yes replacing old Apple TV. That's it. You can't replace Tivo Roku I think might get replaced because I'm on Amazon on I'm gonna put Amazon All right. Well, we had to make this one short because we have lots of stuff to go on So why don't make our cloud focus app pick of the week sure to you by Nobody.

19:15 Justin Edelstein: I'm just going to pick something that came out in the new OS. The Apple News app. Spring 15? Nope. No. Unlike you. I don't just pick releases. The news app. I found it. I don't use, like you use Zite. I don't use Zite. I imagine this is a lot like Zite. Very much. You pick a bunch of topics as well as content providers that you like. and you start reading stuff, just stuff starts flowing up to you. It's also in your note, like as you pull down, like in your today, yes, from the top of your screen and news is in there, which is really what I liked. It was very integrated into the whole OS. So I threw a bunch of stuff, a bunch of topics. It started getting me kind of right away and I was like, all right, this is kind of cool.

Justin Edelstein: I'll go with it. So news. Oh, I was. Nice.

Jason Atwood: I still, I tried it a little bit. Go to a genre and then read that genre. All right, I'm gonna pick something that was announced at Dreamforce, I was gonna pick a Dreamforce, it didn't pick a Dreamforce and it already existed, but now it's done by the company. It's kind of cool. This is actually one of the bigger announcements. I didn't get to see this. I've never used it. I've read about it. I saw the demo, but I haven't actually used it. So this is Eventbrite on the AppExchange. by Eventbrite and it's synchronizing of Eventbrite with Salesforce. You can synchronize to campaigns and things like that. Two ways, you can push stuff from Salesforce to Eventbrite and you can have stuff from Eventbrite go to Salesforce. It's free. It's kind of been waiting for a while.

Jason Atwood: I think Groundwire was the one who built the old one. Yeah, they were. I looked in our org. That's why I knew that. I was like, how did we do this. But I think that's pretty cool because Eventbrite is a really nice app. For event registration and all that, it does a lot, but it always kind of fails in getting the data back to Salesforce. So I think Groundwater had a good app. I don't feel like it's supported very well. I don't feel like it's kind of been touched in a long time. I'm a huge fan of that app. Although if you search for event bright you get about seven people a lot of people who are doing the same thing On next week is a short one, but next week we'll be back with a longer one And we'll get into winter 16 because winter is coming and 16 and our first blog post was just published just seconds ago Was it the rapid reaction?

22:18 Justin Edelstein: Yeah, I just wasn't so rapid because Dreamforce got in the way.

Jason Atwood: But we now have our Winter 16 blog series coming up, so we'll start on that next week when we probably have not one, but probably two Winter 16s to talk about. So we'll start into that. I have to read the release notes. I have not done it yet. I have I have, I have a long trip to London to like many, many hours to read that. So we'll do that. We'll be back next week. Justin, Jason, Zang. Enjoy those garden days.