Project Appreciation - Episode #270 of CloudFocus Weekly

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00:10 Jason Atwood: This is the 270th episode of CloudFocus Weekly for the first week of September 2017. This episode is titled Project Appreciation. CloudFocus Weekly is brought to you by The Permissioner by Harkis. Mass assign and revoke Salesforce permission sets in classic and enlightening. It truly is permission sets made easy. Available free on the AppExchange or go to thepermissioner.com. I'm your host, Jason Aver, joining me co-host, first time in September. 270 times in a row. Justin Edelstein. How you doing, Justin? Whoa.

Justin Edelstein: 270 in a row. 270. It's a big number. Getting close to 300. We are. Not this year. Maybe next. Yeah, maybe next year. Maybe. CloudFocus, whenever. CloudFocus, at least monthly. So 300. The big one. Definitely going to be next year. It's a big anniversary.

Jason Atwood: If we time it right, we could probably have it land like. at Dreamforce, if it's in the, if it's in the ball. That would be really pathetic of us. Why?

Justin Edelstein: 30 podcasts between now and Dreamforce 18.

Jason Atwood: Think about it, we're doing 24 a year. 24 a year. We can do 10 for the next of the year. But we're weekly. Okay, well don't worry about it. Speaking of weekly, we have an agenda. Speaking of so we lied we were said we're gonna do winter but as we were just discussing which I wanted to bring on to the On to the pod because you know, we should be discussing this on pod not off pod I have not read the release notes yet So I've taken I mean I've seen little bits and pieces flying around people like Oh, look at this and look at this and dynamic, you know components and stuff I'm like, oh, okay. Yeah. But I haven't read it. I've been dropping little things in our Slack channels. So we have a little bit to say about winter.

Jason Atwood: We'll talk about that at the very end. But we'll talk about winter next week, because I'll read it. And the blog should start to pump out some.

Justin Edelstein: It should. You would think it would. You would think it would. You'd think. Thank you. Is this your whole, I'm not the blog master thing? I am not the blog master. I control nothing about the content on the blog. And should I go look at the blog agenda? You do what you want to do. I'm not involved. Just tell someone to go write something about winter. Well, I was going to write something because no one else picked up to write like a quick reaction. So I was just going to go back and do that.

Jason Atwood: Winter 18 for lightning. I know who's writing that. I know who's writing that. The lightning master. DRS. best. And then Dream Forces, yeah, basically no one's doing winter. Yeah.

Justin Edelstein: Yeah. Arkus cute. There's no Vlogmaster anymore at Arkus, so... You know, people write what they want to write about, and apparently winter's not a thing. Yeah. How about winter? All right, we're gonna get some winter. Oh, so maybe we do need a Vlogmaster.

Jason Atwood: Well, I thought it'd be more of a, hey... There's a new release out and maybe write about that instead of writing about what they want to write about. Speaking of writing about what they write about. Look at these two people just writing about what they want to write about. Look at these things. Alright, so from last time we have two. I think one was in total reaction to your podcasting.

03:10 Justin Edelstein: My podcasting? Yeah, you went to my nag., I just say, please hold. Yeah, that's not right at all.

Jason Atwood: Well, it's not spelled. We'll see if he probably not. Yeah. Anyway, so Sam wrote her not only part of because she was there, but part of because she was. the Midwest dreaming 17 she wrote Midwest appreciate tin right right not that. No, there's a reason why we don't.

Justin Edelstein: And talking about how the reason she, you know, went to it was that when asked to help volunteer and join the planning team. That's great.

Jason Atwood: Good for her. Yes. We appreciate people who, you know, being part of the Salesforce community is not just answers and ideas and blogging and podcasting. This is the stuff that really takes... Not that vlogging and podcasting doesn't take a lot of time, but this is stuff that takes time. I mean, I'd love to know how many hours she spent just in the whole of it. A hundred hours.

Justin Edelstein: Yeah, tons. With all the planning of that event. I mean, not that it was all in her shoulders. There was a team of people, all volunteers.

Jason Atwood: Yeah. So kudos to all. But we did talk about Midwest streaming last time. relent.

Justin Edelstein: But I'll go pause. You're gonna go pause? Kudos to all those who made that event happen. Oh, that's so sweet. Yeah, if you went neg on it now you're gonna go pause on it. I went neg on it just cuz I That was my feelings about the actual event, but I don't feel I was super negative I just wouldn't necessarily go back.

06:10 Jason Atwood: Does it surprise you at all that one of the art- the Arkus lore, the inner hidden Arkus secrets is that they can tell if you're having a bad mood on the podcast and that they're... It bugs me a little?

Justin Edelstein: - And that our employees talk about it? I'm going to be very conscious about it from now till the end of days till the end of CloudFocus whenever and... I'm hoping that they are realizing that today I'm in a good mood.

Jason Atwood: I usually call you out in a bad mood. But here we go. So there's feedback taken given received and reset. Boom.

Justin Edelstein: That's a feedback loop. Just saying. Yeah, is there an acronym for that?

Jason Atwood: You know, I'm so. I'm so close to saying something bad. I can't do it. I don't really want to hit this podcast later.

Justin Edelstein: Let's move on. Take it out in post. Let's take it out in post. Speaking of taking it out in post. The worst. It's the best. It's so bad. It's funny. It's so good.

Jason Atwood: Moving right along. Speaking of not falling on the blog calendar. Speaking of not writing about winter.

Justin Edelstein: Writing not writing about winter 18 because didn't read release notes or whatever. But this was this is a.

Jason Atwood: This is a true moment of inspiration. This is my extra blog post. I think I'll do six or seven this.

Justin Edelstein: Six or seven! Remember when we did 50 podcasts a year? Remember when we wrote all the blog posts?

Jason Atwood: We had to write all the blog posts. How many blog posts?

Justin Edelstein: How many? All of them. Because all of them.

Jason Atwood: Now we don't write all of them. But maybe we'll get to the point where there's enough people where people can write about winter. Remember when there's a blog master and they told people like, hey, be aware of this thing and write about it. All right. Are you trying to institute? Maybe we should, maybe it's not a blog master, which I don't like the real sound of it. Maybe it's a. Well, I mean, that came from web master. A blog conciergely. A blog owner? Don't like it. Still sounds like master. Gonna go with maybe a blog advisor. Hmm a blog content architect The blog content architect Yeah, you are the BCA. Oh wait till we come up with our new titles.

Justin Edelstein: Oh that gets approved Alright, so not a huge prospect of my new title. You want the other one? No, I really don't like that one. Oh, okay. Well, I don't like that one for that person.

Jason Atwood: Your current title really fits you as much as, you know... Sort of. BCA.

Justin Edelstein: I feel like I just want no title. Just founder. That's it. Co-founder. That's good enough. Doesn't that stand alone?

Jason Atwood: Just functional when there's like title and functional title. I have a field, Salesforce, functional title, functional title, nickname, sub nickname, proper name, proper case spelling, DBA. This name sounds like, is an awesome one. Okay, so. Third address geocode. I, here's a little inner secret to my world, which I think I passed on to. all the people in my family, which is when I can't sleep, when I wake up, sometimes I my brain just starts to churn, and I'm like, all right, settle down, listen to some podcasts. And generally podcasts put me right to sleep, right? Not my own content,

09:38 Justin Edelstein: But generally like. So you're saying you don't listen to your own podcasts. I do occasionally,

Jason Atwood: But. sometimes I'll put on and generally put on fantasy, fantasy football, right? That puts you right to battle. Oh yeah, it's like, oh, you know, Ezekiel is a 2.2 PPR, he might be out for three. What's funny is that you play fantasy football, you really enjoy.

Justin Edelstein: I would go so far, I wouldn't say love fantasy football, but you really, truly... Embrace and enjoy fantasy football. I do. It's odd that you choose a topic that you are and I think where you're going Because what you did you chose another topic that you're truly so into right? Why would you pick a thing that you're so into to put you sleep because it's about why not pick some like Some random podcast some NPR thing. That's just a drony voice. It's just gonna talk about stuff

Jason Atwood: If I listen to something new, it's like a wooboo. It's like a wooboo. It's so cute. I listen to things that I recognize their voices. So if I listen to new stuff, like, I'll be paying attention to it. But if I listen to, like, I've listened to, there's a couple of podcasts I've listen to hundreds of. And so I hear their voices and it's like, and the content, okay, it's fine. But they discuss the same content every week. It's not new content. That's the problem with this one. I went to go put on, and sometimes R used to put on like audio books I've already read, because again, it's like not new content. So I put on, there just happened to be a new GTD podcast from David Allen. His thing, I don't know, podcast.

Jason Atwood: He's really recording stuff and just releasing it. And it's kind of turning into a little bit of an ad for GTD Connect, but what Ebs? Where's GTD Connect? So GTD Connect is there. care. It's their success community, but you pay. I guess you pay for success community too. Probably not. You don't. You have to have a license. You have to have a developer org. Yeah. OK, fine. So you can jump in with your developer org. Which is free. Trailhead is free. Success community is free.

Justin Edelstein: Trail's force isn't free. Developer orgs are free. Salesforce is free. If you want to use it, it's not free. But if you want to be a member of the community,

Jason Atwood: You can do so for free. So it's the same thing. It's a walled content garden. And it's not cheap. I've always thought about joining it. And I don't mind paying for subscription stuff. I'm not grading to paying for content. I don't mind paying for function.

Justin Edelstein: Well, you pay for content. Like what? Your cable television? Yes.

Jason Atwood: Your Netflix, your Hulu. True. Used by three people in my family. Of course. But you pay for it. Yeah. Hulu plus Netflix plus... What else do I pay for? I don't know, something else? I'm sure you pay for other things. Yeah, but even Amazon Prime is none of those a year. GT Connect is like $43 a month.

Justin Edelstein: Is it a Salesforce community? No. Is that why it's $43 a month? Should be.

Jason Atwood: But anyway, they do these interviews and stuff, and you know because I've given you some of the tapes or the non-tapes. Yes, the tapes that I play in my Walkman as I go to work. I just got rid of my DVD player by the way. Like my DVD player. Oh yeah. Got rid of it. We don't have a d...oh wait.

12:52 Justin Edelstein: Yeah. We have a Blu-ray player. I have a Blu-ray player in a PS4. We have a Blu-ray player, but I think we also, if I were to go look over there, we're in the studio where I have all my equipment, of course. I think there's a DVD and VHS, like a combo deal, that I'm pretty certain is going to go in the garbage.

Jason Atwood: Gotta ask a little... Well, don't do that. Gotta ask a little lady about it. This Saturday... in Queens are doing a technology recycling where you can bring your... Oh, I got tons of stuff for that. Where is it? It's gonna happen. It's up in a story apart. I'm going. So if you want to just give me a box of stuff, I'll take it. Oh, yeah. I will do that. I'll throw it in my pocket. Because I will have tons of stuff. Anywho, I woke up in the middle of the night and I was like, oh, let me just put on a GT podcast. And it turned out to be this one called... the better you get. And it was just a re-thing of a long conversation between these two, they are consultants, or GCD consultants who work for the David Allen Company, Meg Edwards and Kelly Forrester.

Jason Atwood: And we know them because they've been on these other like longer series, like they do that whole week review one like 10, 15 hours worth of content. So of course what happened was instead of going to sleep, I was fascinated and I was like listening, I'm like listening, listening. And then, so I did this thing called, they talked about these hidden project categories. So you're talking about GCD projects and whatever, and I listened, but as I'm sitting there listening, I'm like, yeah, but what about this one? What about this one? What about this one? And so I wrote this blog post. So it's called the Four More Hidden GTD Project Categories, which does make my second blog post in a row about GTD, which you're getting a theory there, or you're seeing some growth or the butterfly, whatever.

Jason Atwood: So anyway, I brought up four more. I'm going to go over them because it is out there in the world. But if you want to go read it, go to blog.arcasink.

Justin Edelstein: Dot com right on and you know just to I know you want people to go read but we Just tease just tease one of these. Yeah sure I mean, I don't really want them to read. I don't like it. Yeah, I mean I I do Well, yeah, don't read it. Just go to it. Great. Just download it. I do three out of the four of these.

Jason Atwood: But I don't do one of them. Which the one you don't build. Dude, that'd be more fun. Habit builder.

Justin Edelstein: Oh. I don't do that one. And I know that you do it. Yup. And I know that the partner that will remain nameless. Nameless as he always is.

Jason Atwood: And hasn't been doing it for a while. We just are doing genderless as well. The partner should be genderless. Yes. is No, it is. Yep. I keep going.

Justin Edelstein: We'll get to Astro later You can have that conversation by yourself so the habit building thing I've never been a fan of just being like Like there are things I do every day at work. Right. And I know I need to do them, and I don't have them in OmniFocus, because I just know I need to do them. Right. And there's things I do in my personal life, like brush my teeth, that I don't really, like, need to tell myself I need to brush my teeth. And then there's these habit builders that I don't... Yeah, I don't... You mentioned your example, your daily health project every day that reminds you to do things like drink water. I'll drink. And stretch. Yep.

16:07 Jason Atwood: And do you stretch? Has it built that habit? So that's sort of the interesting thing about it. It's become... Like that one is become a little blind. It's become project blind. That's why I don't do it.

Justin Edelstein: But that's but I feel like after a while, it's like check. Right.

Jason Atwood: Check. But that was fun. Six things just disappear. But there are things that I do every day, and it is a way to keep some things in my consciousness. And so if I'm at the gym and I go to the gym and then I'm right. Oh,

Justin Edelstein: I spent five minutes. Stretching because I had that thing that kind of is constantly reminding me Why do you need to be at the gym to stretch like his context gym? No, you can be anywhere to stretch you have a standing desk You'd be stretching while you're standing there certain type of stresses other types of stretches You should be lie

Jason Atwood: Down on a mat with a with a you know a rope or whatever. Multiple stretches?

Justin Edelstein: I'm just trying to go how far does, how deep does this go?

Jason Atwood: Well, I started it. Because I've never done it. I started it as a way to start a habit and certain of those habits are really good. Then I've changed it up and I can tell you right now in my life it is a little bit of a, just a checkbox every day. But since there are certain things in there I do do like it's probably the worst example But like I do exercise every day and I feel good when I check off my daily health thing because I'm like, okay Yeah, I did that. No, I don't do everything in it. But the better example I think is really the is the flossing the teeth thing like That's not regular. It's irregular enough that I want to make sure and that one I actually like It gets me.

Jason Atwood: It's like, okay, go... Go... Stop what you're doing and go floss your teeth. Well, I'll just do it when I take a shower or something. I'll do it after shower and then I will... But it feels good to check it off and to say, like, I did it. And if it's something that is not regular, it creates... It does create a... And eventually you should be able to give it up, right? Or change it. That's what I would say to most people. If the project isn't really, isn't moving you or you're avoiding it or you're just checking off, then change it. Change the frequency. Change the name of it. Put something else in it. Take out the stuff you don't do. Put in something else. Change out one of the things and make it an actual project that repeats.

Jason Atwood: Something like that. But for a lot of people... you know, yes there are things I need to do every day that work things and yes I have them in there as repeating things but there's also the there are times at the end of my day when I go look at my next day it'll remind me of, oh right let me go do that now and I get to check it off today. So I say, oh I did that work thing today and that is a great that's that feels good. Like, oh, I went ahead. I saw something I'm supposed to do every morning. I went and did it tonight and I did it thoroughly and I'm checking it off. So I'm checking it off in advance. And again, there's a psychology to this that people like to mark things done.

Jason Atwood: It makes you feel good. It makes you it. It has that endorphin of First time.

19:28 Justin Edelstein: No. Oh, second time. Second time. That's true.

Jason Atwood: And I've cheated once. Yeah, you've cheated only twice.

Justin Edelstein: I was emailing back and forth with a friend and a colleague in a way, a business colleague. And someone I've known, I'm not being sketchy, someone I've known for a very long time through the MVP community and..... part of the oh-hana and all, a it's me and the niggles again oh so funny and yeah so there's there's a a a a a And I decided to give it a shot. So Jared Miller, Nick Ham, who are at 10K Advisors, have a podcast called 10K Launch. And I had mentioned to Jared, I don't know, when or how, that I was an accidental admin and that's how I got my start in Salesforce. It was... There was a project that someone asked for us to do, you and I. You being my boss at the time.

Justin Edelstein: I prepared for the story. And you went to a Salesforce event here in New York City. And it was not a world tour. It was not a world tour. It was like 200 or 300 people in a hotel or something. And you went. And. is. you had called me from the event and Basically said I just saw the coolest thing this guy was up on the stage He built a field in a database called that person. He's a real person Patrick Fisher still works in Salesforce still works I wasn't sure if it was him or someone else, but I guess it was Patrick Patrick was up on the stage He built a field in a database Put it into the user interface, then put it on a form that was on the web, submitted the form, and it went right into the field.

Justin Edelstein: Like he did it all on the stage, like live. It was incredible, and there was an interface and everything. You can use the database, so you didn't have to like design anything. It was just drag and drop and move things around, and he did it without any code. Didn't have to have a UI designer, a DB admin, like all the stuff that you should talk about. Didn't need this entire stack of... any technology was all there and you didn't need all- this Salesforce thing. Right. And you're like, I think we can. and you're like, the rep just introduced himself to me. Let me go back and see if he could come into the office in a week or whatever, and that was it. That was the start of it. That was the big company that should not be named.

Justin Edelstein: Welcome in. Yeah, welcome, come on in. Come on in, I'll earn some money. And that was the start of... I came in a week later.

22:29 Jason Atwood: I'm surprised it didn't follow me back to the office.

Justin Edelstein: It didn't just like, just, I was going to town. Let's go. Let's go. But came in, heard us out, heard what we were trying to do. So how many pages? They took it, they probably threw it away. They shredded it. And we're like, what are you trying to do? We told them. And like two days later, I remember hopping on WebEx, X. With them, and it was like, oh, my, there it is. Right.

Jason Atwood: And that was it. And by the way, they used email to case. Or web to case. Web to case. Which to us at the time was like. It was magic. Magic.

Justin Edelstein: And it was for a suggestion box application that we were being asked to build. in a very traditional way with a database back end, a design a front end and have some workflow type of things which no one could imagine what that would even be. So we designed in our BRD was like super simple like a case of people. They're going to because it was all done in an email inbox and somebody was taking these emails and copying and pasting them into Excel and then mailing this Excel spreadsheet around to like 30 people. For people to work on stuff. Anyway, that was the start and I told more of the story So if you want to go listen to that and other little tidbits from me, you can find it. It's episode five of a podcast called 10k launch And they were asking me a lot actually about, beyond just the start in Salesforce, they were asking me a lot about starting Arkus and how that went and what that was like and any advice to give.

Justin Edelstein: And I left all the good tidbits for their podcast and I left all the nonsense for this podcast. All your angriness and your bad moves, Arkus. Speaking of angriness and bad moves. bad moods why we move on to this next topic no one knows me I just agree with you so winter 18 you have a favorite feature you didn't read the release notes but you have a favorite feature so I found this notice or this came out as-as a thing

Jason Atwood: That apparently now Astro is gonna make its way into the icons the seasonal release icons. Astro is gonna make its way in there and we're not gonna have polar bears and and skis, whatever. It's gonna be Astro dressed as some other polar bear or some Yeti or something else with skis and I think it's stupid.

Justin Edelstein: Still think it's stupid. Does this go on your whole thing of Astro being the chatter icon if you don't put your photo on there too? Yes. Because that also exists. Yes.

Jason Atwood: So the Astroization of Salesforce, again,- let me be clear, I love the character of Astro. I think the actual character is quite cute. I was wearing a shirt the other day. I even posted it into our Slack channel. I have no problem with the character. Zero or any of the characters. I mean the server bear Why he's in there eating my servers? I mean, you know little upset about the server bears over bears it

25:40 Justin Edelstein: Just an animal server

Jason Atwood: Well, he also puts on a vest so he's not that much of an animal first He eats the servers then he puts on a vest and then he has a guitar Anyway, not the characters I think are funny, they're like, I get it, I just want them to stay out of the software. I I want them to create a nice little line in the sand or on the planet and say, marketing, trailhead, help, you know, Dreamforce, Trilla DX, all that stuff, go bananas. Astro out the whole thing. I don't care. That's great. That's awesome. That's where it should be. Inside the software, after I log in, I'll even let you have the login screen, after I log into software, I want zero Astro. I want zero Astro in my, I don't want it in the setup.

Jason Atwood: I don't want it in the icon. I don't want it in the people. because I think it's just, it's a slippery slope and they're already falling down it. So they're falling down their own slippery slope. I want them out of the software. I did post an idea on this. It's called, I didn't keep Astro out of the software on the idea exchange. It's getting a lot of both positive and negative votes, which is fine. It's more of just a conversation. I just really think that there should be a line and I'd like them to keep it out of the software. marketing materials awesome software as part of our releases no I don't want to read the release oh and we've put a new spinner that as Astros face going around and the the opportunity icon is now Astro yeah I mean saucy and

Justin Edelstein: Chatty and they never made it in keep them out I mean they did kinda not really it's like the notification

Jason Atwood: Banner six sometimes you guys go to just stop stop yeah Well, the notification banner that they never did anything with. They did. They changed it, but you don't know because we turned it off.

Justin Edelstein: Oh, okay. Good. They actually put new stuff up there? Yeah, they do. Okay, great. It's terrible. I actually saw it recently and it was different. Oh, I saw it the same banner I've seen for three years.

Jason Atwood: Yeah, but that's if you haven't done that thing.

Justin Edelstein: Whatever's in that banner. Just go to 18. Then it'll go to do some other thing. So, try Salesforce Files Connect or whatever. Right.

Jason Atwood: Anyway, I just, again, I know people tweeting at me saying, you know, my guess, somebody even tweeted at me that I should,

Justin Edelstein: That I don't like the artist. I'm like, no, the artist has nothing to do with the artist. It doesn't do it. It has nothing to do with the message. It has nothing to do with the agent. The message is great.

Jason Atwood: Keep it out of the enterprise software, please. Just keep it out of the software. It just doesn't really belong there. My personal opinion.

Justin Edelstein: Sorry. All right, let's move on things that do belong there. Let's do it picks the week true to form I will pick something that was suggested to me didn't eat that I've never tried but I have downloaded That counts right? That's like downloading this episode and not listening to it. Yeah, it does. All right. Anyway, so I was at a baseball game last week. Okay. As were you. And I was talking to a pal and you know like these different categories of

28:44 Jason Atwood: People that that person is like pal,

Justin Edelstein: Peer. This is actually a client but I'm considering him a pal. So okay. Whenever we're together we we tend to talk about soccer because there's not too many although there's a growing contingency there's not too many American soccer fans and he and I, you know, there was a this past weekend was big World Cup qualifier weekend And we were chatting about what no, I don't know.

Jason Atwood: I didn't say you said you said you know

Justin Edelstein: You said you know, there's a big thing. I said you don't know anything No, so I'm not about that we're talking about it like we thought would start whatever done or not And I was like, you know He was talking about if he wants to go out and watch one of these matches, they're big matches, you know, they're World Cup qualifier matches. But if there's anything else, sports related on TV. It doesn't get there. Yeah, unless it's the World Cup, soccer's not on television. Unless it's the weekend and it's the morning and nothing else is on TV. So he was like, yeah, if I go out to a bar, he's from Boston. Usually, like, the Red Sox are on TV on all the TVs, and they're on the speakers, except for one TV might, if you ask him in the corner, put the soccer match on.

Justin Edelstein: And he was telling me about this app called Tunity. T-U-N-I-T-Y. where it's free and it's from a company called AudioStream TV, and it's for your iPhone or your Android phone and he was telling me how it works. Essentially if there's a TV that is on you just point your phone at it. when the apps open and it scans it and it can see and recognize what is on the television okay and you can then listen through the app because it'll tune in to the what's on television anything he was telling me well not anything you can have access to right But not really like you go to bars and you you like this like there'll be a Red Sox game And they'll be blasting that on or maybe music will be playing in the bar And you'll point and you'll point your phone at a television for like a a New England Revolution MLS match and revolution and then you can just listen to that and he's like absolutely 100% Is that the more prints?

Jason Atwood: Yeah, I was like he said absolutely 100%

31:48 Justin Edelstein: DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD live TV's audio directly on your mobile device. or Bluetooth speaker. So that's, I didn't get the other use case in that. All right, I'm done a listening to you. You caught me. Well you do it all the time at the end. Don't don't make me turn around. I'm about to not listening to you right now. I am done. Thank you. I have to make a phone call. You're so angry.. the phone- the Antarctica Do this I feel

Jason Atwood: Like I might have picked up So free up on GitHub zero dollars Specific need when you merge accounts in Salesforce under the current merge, files from the non-master don't get re-associated. That's the use case. It seems like a small one until you launch of merges and you realize you just lost the association for the again, the non-master. So if you have two accounts, they both have files, you have to pick one master, the master one gets the files, the other one, those files get disassociated and they just end up in the nowhere's land.

Justin Edelstein: Stop, using them and start using files. No, isn't that really what this is for?

Jason Atwood: Well, this trigger works for that use case, my use case. And the hefty,

Justin Edelstein: Butore. But again, isn't the idea here that you would take one attachment's two files? Because that's a migration. And he's made it easy. Thank you. I thought that's the whole point of this app. Not like convert some stuff and maybe lose some association the a a Well, it's only September.

34:50 Jason Atwood: There you go. There it is. Put it on the board. Follow Mr. Wright, just Elstein. Follow Jason Atwood. Follow Arca Sync. He's going to make a phone call. Facebook.com slash Arca Sync. Success-Community I mean Power Bus Group. LinkedIn, Google Plus. Subscribe in iTunes, Citroen, Google. Tune in. Yeah, We're in tune in. Until next week or the week after that or the week after that is Justin Jason saying enjoy those cloudy days. I'm always right