Ruh Roh Astro - Episode #263 of CloudFocus Weekly

Some rapid reactions to Summer 17, permission sets, WWDC predictions and cartoons taking over.

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00:09 Jason Atwood: This is the 263rd episode of CloudFocus Weekly for the first week of June 2017., this episode is titled, rah CloudFocus Weekly is brought to you by Arkus, specializing in Salesforce implementations. consultinginforce.com developments. Search for Arkus, A-R-K-U-S on the AppExchange and see what our clients have to say about us. I'm your host, Jason Atwood, enjoying me, quizzically looking at me with his head tilted sideways like a dog. His co-host, Justin Edelstein. Justin, how are you this June? I'm doing good. It's June. Oh my goodness. Yeah, look at that.

Justin Edelstein: What happened? World tours. Still can't Like, so I can run then.

Jason Atwood: So how many podcasts in a row we talked about you and your hip? I'm going to keep the street going until it's healed. Should we just bring in a, should we drop a Google wave reference so we can keep that street, going to? I mean, that's a, that's a pretty good reference if you ask me. Well, speaking of good references, we have a good agenda today. Tons of stuff on the blog. I always try. And we have some stuff coming up. We have talked about a little bit about why we named it, Why We Named It, It's a blog post about summer and permission sets. We have some Dreamforce news. some more releases and then maybe we'll talk a little bit about the upcoming Monday WWDC because predictions going on there the Apple worldwide developers conference.

Jason Atwood: Predictions. We're going to talk a little bit because I think we'll probably cover it next week or the week after whenever we get back. Whenever. Whenever. So... A funny thing happened to me But I was logging. It was a different user to test something. And I clicked on the user. Actually, I went to click on the user because I wanted to see their profile as them. And all of a sudden, instead of the, you know, they didn't have their picture there. Instead of seeing sort of the just generic picture in on their little icon and on their profile page. Thank you very much. Lo and behold, Astro was there. You know, just chilling. A little black and white picture or sort of grade colored picture of Astro. Gradient styles. Who is Astro, you ask? Astro is, was the first of now basically a whole zoo of...

03:20 Justin Edelstein: Astro's not an animal. Really? What is that? Astro is a person. No, they're all animals. No Astro is not a an animal. Yes. Yes, it is technically It's an animal, but it's a human being Yes, Astro is a person No. All right, you keep talking and I'm gonna Google that. Okay, you find that it's no Google Salesforce Astro Human? So,

Jason Atwood: Do humans have ears that stick up on the top of their heads?

Justin Edelstein: Actually Salesforce has a blog called Get to Know the Salesforce mascots. And let me guess, it's an animal. Astro, as a true outdoors mascot, Astro can usually be found running around on trailhead helping. Everyone learned Salesforce in fact Astros passion for helping customer. I'm just gonna get to what this thing is You know what they, they don't they don't really say But it's a person in a in an outfit you can see their faith its face, is yeah, okay Doesn't look human to me. It's not very many humans that I look at it's wearing a It's a human in an outfit in an animal outfit. It's a furry.

Jason Atwood: I get it. I have a picture of it on my desktop. It's a face. No nose, no mouth.

Justin Edelstein: Well, it's a mascot. It doesn't need a mouth. And it has a fuzzy tail. But that's an outfit that it's wearing. Oh, I see.

Jason Atwood: Okay. Anywho, So, Astro, person or not person or alien being, it shows up as the default, as the default icon. And I was like, oh, that's weird. At first I thought, well, wow, you're very dedicated if you're replacing your icon with a default of Astro. But then I realized, oh no, this is something Salesforce has done. Salesforce has put Astro as the default icon for the person icon, which they've changed about six times now, by the way. They used to have a non-smiling phase and they went to a smile, but they've changed it a couple times. times. So, and for some reason, I'm like pissed off. Like I can't take this anymore. I'm, the cartoonization of Salesforce, and we talk about it at the world tours and we talk about it at the it's like Trailhead this product with this nice branding message of I guess outdoorsness and And mascots and I guess Einstein definitely a person Einstein not wearing a suit, not wearing a, you know, bunny suit or whatever, a raccoon suit.

Jason Atwood: It's getting me, it's like I'm getting tired of it, like, and then showing up inside the software. I mean, yes, it's in the setup screen and yes, they have the AppExchange person. Now they have the, they have the, they have the mobile guy with the helmet and they have the owl that's for the AppExchange and...

Justin Edelstein: It's just... It's called AppExchange Alley. I don't know what it's called. I just... I feel like it should be called that.

06:26 Jason Atwood: Because why not? Am I on an Olimb here to say enough is enough?

Justin Edelstein: No, you're on it. You're good. I'm good. Because you would call me out if you think I was just being like, personically old man. I would, but I was with you and then you put the idea on the idea exchange to go look for it... And I voted on it and I wrote a comment on it that I do feel as though enterprise software used by enterprises, large and small should not be treated in a way that like a cutesy consumer facing like piece of an app like one of We all know that if you're coming from a perspective of working with large enterprises and financial services institutions. R gonna see that what be like this is a joke right like are people aren't putting their picture in there are not adopting her but how do I go to lightning when It's if everyone's gonna look the same whether it be blank or ass it should just be They're the same, but don't use Astro.

Jason Atwood: It's not an appropriate use I just it's getting to me and and I just don't understand This is my theory and I don't know have anybody in self-sorcer on this but that they that they that they that they I'm not. I'm not. I'm not with the Astro. 1500 little characters. I feel like I'm reading a comic book not using CRM. We drank the haterade. And no, one more comment. And when things don't work. Okay. Things break and bugs happen and stuff like that my mind not nicely my mind goes wow We're spending so much time like playing around with new new dolls Like you could actually fix this stuff like get some people and put the put put the money Instead of coming up with new cartoon characters Maybe put some of that money into like fixing reusing things and making things work and bringing features that are completely missing from lightning into lightning.

Jason Atwood: I'd rather you spend a few more of those marketing dollars, like just shift it over to the development side and say, how about we not make 17 new character characters? How about we fix some bugs? And how we make this thing work? And how we make it faster? Like that to me, so it's a resource thing, as well as just a, I'm kind of a little bit over it a Okay, so maybe I'll be able to tweet at you. And if you agree, tweet at me. If you don't agree, tweet at me. At just Edelstein.

09:39 Justin Edelstein: That's me. But you can tweet at me. I'll just bring you into the conversation. That's true.

Jason Atwood: Alright, so we got some examples. Summer 17, ideas released. Why don't we do the rapper reaction first? Oh, the rapper reaction. Okay. You wrote that. Jason Atwood. That's you. Yeah, because I was and I, I've been messing up so many peopel's names that I, I'm just going to keep messing them up intentionally. Therefore, you don't say my name wrong for a year. Who's that? I'm not gonna say, because then I have to say his name. I wanna know. I'm not saying it. Who is it? I'm still not gonna say it. You can ask it four times.. it correctly. Nope.

Justin Edelstein: Are you gonna say correctly the next time? Maybe. Maybe. Did they write a blog post that we're gonna talk about? Maybe. Well one of them's me. I expected to get me right. The other one is not me. Alright.

Jason Atwood: So that's actually took, I took over from Break out your Sunday afternoon and sit down with the 541 pages.

Justin Edelstein: Only perused them to this point. I haven't really dug too deep. I was looking at which you don't cover here, but I was looking at the content and files and how they're gonna impact communities, which is interesting. You don't mention it, but I'm going to bring it up as a rapid reaction. Like it made sense, I guess, and I guess it's like professional or something like a, it's no longer a license.

Jason Atwood: Well,

Justin Edelstein: Also for, for orgs where you can't update profiles.., and I content that checkbox and made it made the provisioning for it better. So you don't have to worry about that checkbox anymore. Nice. Which is the right way to do it.

13:01 Jason Atwood: So, on old contins, that was looking at the other day for some reason. They're getting a little update. Or they just move into files.

Justin Edelstein: Libraries are moving into lightning. And from understand it well enough yet, because I have to play with it. Because I was just skimming through the notes, but as I understand it, they're decou They're moving libraries into.

Jason Atwood: The Is my favorite if this release is actually killing off of two features I'm so excited to have RIP stuff. Stay in touch requests gone.

Justin Edelstein: You popped open your your old English 40 You poured a little out for for your homies Right for what two features so stay in touch requests, which

Jason Atwood: Is now no longer a thing, so that was, there used to be a button that I had to remove. Or uncheck it from people's profiles. That allowed you to send out a non-editable template that sent a link to somebody that allowed them to actually edit things and leave changes to a contact that you could then accept. The theory was cool. I have some data about you, I I have some data about you, is this correct? I remember getting them and I've gotten them in my life. I've gotten them myself. From Salesforce. They always look spammy as heck. So I'm sure. And I think that the usage just dropped down. I think the idea of from my serum saying, hey I want you to update my Sierra I think that's gone so that's going away and then cloud scheduler I think is is I can pick three spots on my calendar and then say, hey everybody tell me when it is and if everybody voted on this one I would then go great and I could send out a meeting request.

Jason Atwood: A couple things I think killed it. One, it was confusing. So it's actually a design thing. Right, it was designed, not great. And I can tell you why, because now it's built into tons of other apps. And like, Cirrus has it built in. Salesforce inbox has it. It's an inbox. It's in Cirrus. So basically everybody else has done it now. So it was never really designed well, because it was... You thought by sending that out you had scheduled it but you hadn't you had not and so then had it confirm it You had to go in and confirm it then he was sent out this so that was one problem problem, too was Salesforce his events were terrible and still are terrible They don. Don't allow you they don't send out requests that you can add in your calendar like you it's a forced a process

16:14 Justin Edelstein: And if I'm using a web-based calendar, you're not- It doesn't work.

Jason Atwood: Gonna be able to use that. So I actually think that it's kind of, I think Cloud Scheduler is actually Salesforce's fault. They never put in more time energy after the first release release, and then they should have fixed events first. Events worked like Google Calendar works, or any calendaring where it sends it out, and people can accept, and it comes back back and tells the people accept. then I think CODSCEDRO would have done better. But because I did neither of those two things, because ASTRO, you know, then it was, that's why they had to kill it, not because ASTRO. Oh, I'm just saying, because ASTRO. It's It's ASTRO money. It's ASTRO money. It's ASTRO money. ASTRO money. All right, that was a good one. Next one up.

Justin Edelstein: That was good. Good little recap. This is one of my favorites that we do every release which is ideas delivered ideas delivered comb through the idea exchange a look for the ideas being delivered in summer 17 or maybe there's just a list of them in the release this one too this is a layup a layup blog post listen so good job ashley no it's wow She always does this one. She likes this one. This is like the one that she does. Pete used to do it, Ashley, they kind of like, I think they fight over it. I don't know. Total the points being retired for those that aren't aware the idea exchange is a place where you go You vote on ideas that should be included in the software. You can vote up or down and The product managers look at it when it gets to a certain threshold sometimes by accident they release features that basically retire an idea and it's retiring points.

Justin Edelstein: So 33,160. points at the time of writing this blog post, which she points out is actually not a whole lot compared to the last release. But still, that's a lot of features that people are asking for that are being retired. So I have a reason why. I think.

Jason Atwood: Theoretical. Theoretical. go on. So a lot of them are lightning things that they're picking off but because lightning ideas haven't been out there for 10 years like some of the big ones, they're small.

Justin Edelstein: It's also not a top level category to say lightning experience in terms of your... That's my... You have an idea for the idea exchange. Yes.

Jason Atwood: To add in, to make lightning not a top level deal. Yeah, because lightning right now is a category is not top level. It's under sales cloud, which as we all know is stupid because the whole thing is lightning. So the experience is lightning. It should be in the category because I went in the other day and was like, oh, show me all the lightning ideas. I couldn't find it until I drilled into the category.

Justin Edelstein: She wrote a lot about Email integration and how that's retiring a ton of points email integration with Gmail right the ability to Relate your like directly from the Gmail interface. It was in beta in spring. I guess it's going GA in summer Being able to actually have a native Salesforce provided It won't be as fully featured as something like inbox or seris or yesware or whatever. But it's going to give you that rudimentary ability to relate emails from the Gmail interface, send emails, relate them, add attachments, things of that nature. I understood there's a big thing with the calendars. Like if you set up the lightning sync, like server level sync, yeah, there's a sort of big to do about the event synchronization between your Salesforce events and your Google Calendar and being able to actually like really actually start using the Salesforce calendar as a real calendar.

20:14 Justin Edelstein: Makes sense yes me it would be I I would love just leverage like hey this is a this is an event and I'm I'm sinking with Google Google you take care of this well apples been able to do that forever I have Google so I have Apple

Jason Atwood: Calendar I Cali Scott now I think it's called calendar yes calendar and I like it because I can overlay personal iCloud and work which is through Gmail or sorry Google App Suite, G Suite as they call it now, another rebranding. So, but I like to schedule inside because when I'm looking at my calendar I want to be able to schedule looking around all the things, like all the events, so I can, when I and when I schedule inside of calendar on my Mac I schedule through the calendar, putting all the stuff, and then Google then sends out the request. So Apple doesn't send it. Right. So it sends it, then it sends out. So that's great. I actually think that's one of the best. And then that syncs over by a Cirrus and to Salesforce and blah, blah, blah.

Jason Atwood: I will say I had a little mini win. Min? Min? Min? Min? Mmm. Nah, doesn't work. A mini win with lightning the other day. I switched over to lightning. I did something lightning that you can't do in classic and I was like this is great. Create a calendar or something? Nope. I was looking at tickets and I wanted to change a lot of the statuses of tickets. Our tickets are record typed. There's lots of different ones and if you want to look at the status of a ticket There's different record types under that RACR. So you can't do show of you of Of just these if I want to look at all open. There's like four different record types or three different record types So I was like oh crap. I decided to click into each one I was like oh because the list view I can't do it because I have to separate them out by so I have that That multiple list views.

Jason Atwood: Oh pain in the butt Flip, can-band view.

Justin Edelstein: Tabs, tabs, for record types.

Jason Atwood: Boom, just yeah. And then they just show up. And then just, end, for changing, just drag and drop. So drag and dropping them from the status became very easy. I was like, this is nice. That actually saved me a ton of time. in. And it was great. I just dropped, dropped, dropped, or completed, completed, completed. Could quickly look at it and then flip to the next one. That was really, really nice. Plus 10 on the save me time scale. How about that? Yeah. Ruh-roh! Do you know what that's from? Do you know what Ruh-roh's from? Scooby-Doo? Yes.

Justin Edelstein: No, not. Well, don't say it, don't say it. Don't say it. not because that don't say it don't say it don't say it i'll just take my hat off and show off my full head of hair oh i

Jason Atwood: Don't know if that made it on all right we'll make it one more time i got i got

Justin Edelstein: Turn it up dude turn it up come on sound effects guy yeah here we go drop where's my producer

23:21 Jason Atwood: My wife is taken to saying that recently. It's like her little catchphrase now. And I give her like one rut roll a week. We're just having a conversation. I'm like, oh, and Justin did something stupid at work. And she'll be like, rut roll. And I'm like, no, no. I love that. I actually like that response.

Justin Edelstein: Well, first of all, it's very often. and so like. Yeah, I don't mind that response. alright, and we are still talking about blog posts. Let's go. We got some stuff to do. There's this one I wrote. Yeah? Permission sets in a lightning world. What's this about? I wrote about permission sets and how they live in a lightning world. This is terrible. Alright, so. Actually it was more of a... homage It was a, they were built from the start API first, so they just work, right? When you jump into them, you can still do all the things that you needed to do before. And then I wrote a little bit, you know, about, okay, talked about how they were mature from the start. And then I wrote a little bit about what I thought permission sets could be used for in the future.

Justin Edelstein: And talked a little bit about like, hey, wouldn't it be cool if a Lightning component could be permissioned at a permissioned set level? So you build an app page, and for any given user, it could actually be... different right the app page actual page could be different based on whether you can see or not see a component which is the way that Lots of things in Salesforce already behave.

Jason Atwood: I'm just trying to think like oh is that already existing? So if I don't have access to an object in Salesforce, I'm looking at the page and it's a related record, right? I can't see it. The related list is gone. So in the same way, I'm looking at a, or I can give a permission set to that person to see it, and they would see the related list. So it's the UI based on what they could see. So if you could create a permission set for a component, I might land on an app page and see seven components, and you might see 10. Now I think the... Weird thing be where they sit I guess I could just float up or down like hey if it's not there it goes up or You- kind of granular with where things are on in that page so Yeah, it's just like you know a regular two column page Boring two column page, whatever.

Jason Atwood: Give me a no column page. Zero column. All right well that too is on blog.arcasync.com And of course you made a nice call out to the permissioner. And I got some comments on this. Yes, I saw that.

Justin Edelstein: People were commenting. I like it. With predictions and all sorts of things. Speaking of predictions. Nope, sorry. How did it work? Two to go.

26:28 Jason Atwood: So Dreamforce, guess what's happening? Dreamforce is happening. The call for presentations, which I might enter in one this weekend.

Justin Edelstein: For both developers and admins yep for both sessions and theaters which are different

Jason Atwood: I'm just gonna enter in one and see what they do with it gotta decide whether you want to present at a theater or an actual breakout i think i'd like a theater better theater's

Justin Edelstein: 20 minutes breakouts are 40 definitely do a theater because i feel like there's a lot of walk-by traffic and sessions I feel Let's ask Astro to get a... Hey Astro, do you have room for a podcast studio now that there's like a million Salesforce podcasts and people would actually sign up and do it? Which by the way they did like three years ago anyway. Ruh-roh! Now there's more.

Jason Atwood: Yeah, that is a ruh-roh. Okay. Figure it out people. See? See how you can just get angry at anger the more you think about it Think think of the the amount of develop the amount of graphic artists Junus Julyish.

Justin Edelstein: He used to be a little earlier, but again Dreamforce, Force was a little earlier So I have to have to imagine it's coming within the next get ready for that You don't have a clue.

Jason Atwood: We're just guessing. Salesforce also released a trailhead tracker. Kinda interesting So this is installed in our sandbox by the by trailhead trail is a trail head the station of Salesforce We should just change the name of Salesforce a trailhead. I have this installed. Did you try it? It didn't work.

Justin Edelstein: Okay, let's not talk about that. Well, no, I have a call on Monday with already mentioned Adam. Okay. to talk about it, because I'm like, I want sign. them to people to do right and you can then track the progress of how they're doing with respect to what you've assigned them to do and you can see where they are because it actually connect so if your users inside Salesforce so it's your Salesforce users You can see where they are on a trail or on a good learning path, right? But it, I think there's an issue with when you have your users, and this is true for me, like my, my trailhead user is not my Salesforce user. Right. And I think that, that's true for most people. Right they set up a dev org with their like gmail account or whatever account because they don't work account You don't want to be like the tides a work account myself who, the company I work at, is still not tied to my work- a and I don'ts It's a lab's rututututututututututututututut goals and metrics.

31:18 Jason Atwood: ....... R Trails what's in progress what they've done and like streams. Remember it used to be like you had to watch a live blog. You would, like a live blog. Yes. Update. And then And then the really cool ones that have like auto refreshing refreshing blogs. Yeah, those were the good ones. You're like, oh, so good. And then they break because there'd be too many people on them. And then Twitter happens It's also become a big because they've gone out of Macworld. They used to do something called Macworld. They used to do a big announcement there. They kind of pulled out of that a long time, and now it's just being run as a third party thing. So this is kind of other than their small announcements throughout the year. This is kind of their big.

Jason Atwood: Pitch. It's the big one. This is kind of the horse. No, but that's a special event. It is a $1,500 ticket. I'd love to go some year. It looks like a lot of fun. I'd have to figure out a a way to make it so it's something useful in my life other than just going. It's been almost like every single year. Boom, boom, here's the next version. And they've been doing, they're not grandiose huge changes. They're like small changes. But they're big enough so it's a big deal, but not big enough so it's like changing your world. So there will probably be a new version of iOS. There will probably be a new version of, you- you know, tvOS and watchOS and Sierra or whatever the next one is called. That's all awesome.

Jason Atwood: But this time, there's a lot of rumors going around. their hardware announcements around Apple TV, where's Apple TV gonna go with the new OS, and the big one that I'm super excited about, and for only one or two reasons, one because I want one and two because it would I would absolutely crush my prediction for this year, which is there's a rumor, it- it's already in production- that they are going to come out with an echo a speaker like a home device and I so I wrote I wrote a blog post every year called predictions of for the next year and I read it in December and I predicted they would do this because it just felt like this huge missing Apple Apple dot or something Apple Astro no Astro order me dog food she'll probably listen you think about it You have a dot, or you have an Alexa, or you have the full Echo tower.

34:58 Jason Atwood: Echo tower. And then there's the dot, and they're great, but they're not connected to the Apple universe. We'll use it for two things. Ordering cat food.

Justin Edelstein: We don't even do that. Weather and music.

Jason Atwood: Right. Play this and play that. But it can't connect to your iTunes. No,

Justin Edelstein: But I have Amazon Prime, so it has like everything that Amazon Prime has.- but right, but I have playlists and things and I- so- so-

Jason Atwood: And same thing with Apple TV, like, wouldn't it be cool if I could use it instead of having to pick up my remote and talk to my Apple TV? I could just talk to the thing in the room that's listening. So what I love about it is it's going to be very, and HomeKit, like, it all becomes. Becomes very useful at that point. So I'm very excited about that. They are talking about a new MacBook Pro. They're actually rebooting this reboot.

Justin Edelstein: I think, I don't know. What happened with this one? This is a very fine machine. I know, I like this machine. We're sitting on our new MacBook Pros and they're gonna go next levels already?

Jason Atwood: I think they're gonna, I think they're either gonna, I don't know, there's like, there's prediction of new ones, iPads, new iPad versions that I wouldn't mind. I have my iPads old and slow and it barely works. I know and I, we had the same model ahead of me and I got rid of it like three months ago. out. And other than going to the gym where I steal my wife's iPad and watching TV at night, like that's it. But the other day I was like, oh, I don't need one because I just use my wife's iPad. I don't even use it at all anymore because it just is too slow. Right. If you got a brand new Anyway, we'll see we'll probably talk about it when we get there. I want to do a little heads up for programming programming new programming note Justin and I have been talking about doing a series of So we've never done this before a special series.

Jason Atwood: We've had special episodes special series special series Now we're talking about doing a special series, not just a special episode. And since we're such GTD freaks, and it seems to be something that people really like when we talk about, we get a lot of feedback on those shows, and we get a lot of, I seem to get hit a lot because it's a big thing. So we're thinking about doing a three or four part, 17 part, no, three or four, I think is the thing. Thank you for your time. probably in July and we're gonna do a series of GTD podcasts and we're gonna talk about like three or four different topics and we'll take one topic per episode and we'll go over just that topic and we'll kind of release them like that. So if you hate that idea let us know if you love that idea let us know.

Jason Atwood: Either way will probably do it. So don't matter. But just let you know. So if you see like, if you see like what happens to CloudFocus Weekly and all of a sudden they're doing stuff in the summer, that's because that's what we did. We're thinking about doing that intentionally. We're not doing, we'll come back to Salesforce.

38:02 Justin Edelstein: Never going to leave you Salesforce. No, you Astro, I'm never leaving you. Never ever leaving Astro. So speaking of never leaving.

Jason Atwood: God, every time you just do anything.

Justin Edelstein: Let's just do that. You're like speaking of this and then it doesn't make sense. It doesn't matter. It works. Yeah.

Jason Atwood: Speaking of where you're going to go, where are you going to go with your Cloud Post Active Pick of the Week?

Justin Edelstein: I'm going to pick the ESPN mobile app. You have picked this like six times. I swear I haven't. I really, I swear I have. You have? No, I definitely haven't. You definitely have. Well, it's been upgraded a billion times since I have. How long have you picked it for every upgrade? Well, I've definitely picked watch ESPN.

Jason Atwood: But I think then you picked like the app. Do you pick like the watch ESPN on the phone? Then I feel like you picked it again on the Apple TV.

Justin Edelstein: Well, now I'm picking on the phone, the ESPN app, because it's so good. They've made their app really, really good. because now everything is combined in one app. Oh, so it used to be multiple apps. Now it's one app. Yeah. And it like replaces SportsCenter to me. Like SportsCenter is not a thing that you need anymore. You're talking about the show. The show that's an hour long of highlights and whatever else they talk about now. And they just talk about. too much crap. Right. And it's not like what you want, which is just what I want. I want to see the scores and the highlights from the game so I can see what's going on. Well, now I can just go on this on the device. A device? You know, a device. Pick the games on like literally any sport that I wanted that I care about.

Justin Edelstein: Yeah. And then. I can also have my favorites and they have the listen tab, which is basically all their radio, all their podcasts, everything on there. Listen live on different markets and all that stuff, the national stuff. And then the watch ESPN stuff is on now. So all everything is in this one app and it works really well. I just I like it. It's my preferred. Like go-to app, finding out scores, looking at highlights, videos, whatever. I've done an interesting and interesting a lot of stories about them because they've laid off about hundreds of people, including like, like, big, like John Clayton, a lot like. Or, well, that was very recent, but yeah, but many others. But I mean, that's who they're keeping around. They don't need the reporter, John Clayton, who's behind anyway.

Justin Edelstein: Like they have Adam Schefter who can cover the entire NFL on his iPhone. He's got 1700 right people on his phone. He doesn't need, you don't need.

Jason Atwood: John Clayton to tell you what happened three days ago. I feel like Adam Schefter is actually just people texting him like, I want this to get a. Sports center. So I text you and he's like, okay, cool.

41:03 Justin Edelstein: I don't think he bets sources say sources say.

Jason Atwood: Ryan, terrible this year. All right. So that's cool. I don't, I basically don't look at sports from February, February to September or let's call it August. So I'll see you in August when I watch you on the Sports. I'm on a Sports hiatus. I love it.

Justin Edelstein: So my pick... Until tomorrow when I drag you out to watch the Champions League Final.

Jason Atwood: All right. A little personal. Don't talk about our personal life. No, just kidding. Yeah, whatever. That's football, right? The food ball. Is it the foodBaw? All right. We're gonna do that. Yes, I agreed. I am picking an app... That might be familiar to those who know me for a long time because I don't think I've ever picked this app, but I once wrote an app just like it. You sure did. So I was like damn it that felt you have two shots at it. No, I only except one I'm not paying attention. You're you're dumb. No, I'm no I don't do the double. I'm not doing the Unbirthdays. No, I did you caught me up and said I'm going out for my birthday or for my Anniversary. I said happy anniversary. So I didn't miss anything.

Jason Atwood: I missed it. No, I I missed the bitmoji in the morning.

Justin Edelstein: Did I miss yours? My anniversary?

Jason Atwood: Oh, okay. So, I don't have it. Because I probably told you like two days in advance. Oh, it's in my thing. So I keep people's anniversaries. And here's why it was failing me. Because my birthday game is on par. Like, I'm on point. I'm on the point with birthdays. I use the calendar for that. I see it in GTD, I put it in GTD. I put it in GTD, I put it in GTD, and basically I put people's birthday on their contact, whenever I learn it. It works great. But anniversaries, there's a field for it on your contact card, but I don't have anything. No calendar will read from it. Nothing! And I've looked forever trying to find one. And I couldn't find a calendar that read an anniversary date and put it on the calendar.

Jason Atwood: Thank you. And so I can now see that my uncle's having a university. It's just in the app. You have to remind yourself to open the app. No, because you can put on alerts.

Justin Edelstein: So that's good. It'll do alerts. Alert me. Right.

Jason Atwood: There is a, there is a free way to do this. And I did it in my address book. So address book on Mac. If you go in and create a smart folder, say, show me all. and reverse for coming up that have anniversary filled out that are in the next 30 days So you can do it for free They just have to know to check that Versus this it kind of alerts you so the alerting is the key and it works you need it works here too It works on your phone so now Facebook's but

44:09 Justin Edelstein: They they alert you it's someone's birthday, right? Oh good.

Jason Atwood: Yeah, I'm not on Facebook. I don't care like it back to me. You don't exist on Facebook. Oh, I exist I just never on it. I'm watching Facebook. Nothing. Nope, everything turned off everything sir Now I don't pay any attention because it just pings me. It's like hey,

Justin Edelstein: It's your cousin's birthday And I'm like, oh good. Let me wish her a happy. You know, it doesn't do children

Jason Atwood: Children so if you want to track that your friend care about children really there's some children in your life you do care about Oh, well that I have her birthday my contact card.

Justin Edelstein: I don't here's the thing I've I've young I won't be on Facebook for 10 years different sections of people in my life There's the people who get the text or the call for their birthday and there's the there's the people who get the Facebook message, right? So for those who are listening You know where you stand when it's your birthday if you get a text or if you get a facebook message. For me you only get one. You get a text or a call.

Jason Atwood: There's no Facebook message. Or you don't know it. I don't do it. No. Or you don't know the person's birthday. Oh, I know everybody's birthday. Oh, you do. Don't you? I mean, literally. I love it. Well, because it's in my calendar. That works great. In the calendar, it works right in the top and it tells you how old they are and everything. You just text them. And I have so many people who are like 10 years old. Yeah,

Justin Edelstein: Because you put them in right. When I first got the phone, I had like capturing it in their contact card. It's like,

Jason Atwood: Oh, they're not 10. I don't know what their year is. I know I do the same thing. although I'll, I'll ping them on like those, friend who's a doctor the other day, I texted her and I was like, happy birthday. Which one is it? And that's again, then I read you put the date.

Justin Edelstein: I'm this year.

Jason Atwood: So that's where this can be captured here. It can be better because then you know big ones as opposed to Facebook. They can block you from knowing the year. Anyway, Happy Days 99 or 99 cents. Whatever. It's on iTunes. It's okay. It does enough. It does some of the things. It leads the anniversary. You can go backwards and forwards. I have, but I like the anniversary side of it. And the alerting, and it alerts on the iPhone, on the Apple Watch. So for those of you who are missing it, or don't want to be in Facebook every five seconds, this is a good thing. All right. Speaking of good things, we'll be back next week. We'll have some more summers, and we'll talk about WWDC. of course. But until then you can follow at justedlstein, follow at jason at, follow at arca sync, facebook.com slash arca sync.

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