Reasons (and a cloud ain't one) - Episode #99 of CloudFocus Weekly

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00:23 Jason Atwood: This is the 99th I there in Oh Tic search news from radian six of semantic search I did you and then we have Microsoft go on cloudy And in the battle for online document editing with the new office 15 Wow 15.

Justin Edelstein: Didn't they skip a whole bunch in there?

Jason Atwood: I didn't know that they actually went in numbers I thought they went years well, maybe on the and wrote a blog post called Too Much Shatter, unfollow like a pro. This blog post was born from

Justin Edelstein: The partner who shall remain nameless when him, him and I, were working on a project together and we were doing a data conversion or migration. And we loaded a bunch of, I think they, they were opportunities. It really doesn't matter. It really doesn't matter. It really doesn't matter.A the person who we made the owner was following all of them and Essentially there were more than 500 so you'd already hit his 500 limit and then we're showing him chatter and he's like I can't follow anything. Hmm. He was already following 500 of these opportunities that we loaded Really shouldn't do that. I maybe it doesn't then he more but it did at the time and we I I because I can only follow 500 things and even in a small I don't want to do it myself, so can you do it for me?

03:26 Justin Edelstein: And there's a quick and easy way to do that using the data loader. So this blog post kind of outlines those few options for you. Yeah, I mean, I definitely use the old, I don't use the data loader to unfollow things.

Jason Atwood: I use the old tried and true views. I definitely build. and have views that I use all the time for just, you know, show me all the stuff that's closed opportunities. I don't follow them anymore. Archived projects, I don't follow them anymore. Or paid invoices, don't follow them anymore. So I go through them once a week and just go quick, quick, quick, quick, quick, quick, quick, quick, quick, quick, and I'm done. And that keeps me under pretty much Definitely got a ways that limit though 500 is not enough I don't get it they get it they don't have to go to 2500 immediately, but it'd be nice just go to a thousand because you know things like the Dreamforce portal 500 is very limiting.

Justin Edelstein: No it and and I'll be honest. We don't be honest. Could you lie a little I'll lie a little right he did mention a an app that's out there that actually was also commented on when you posted this in the Dreamforce portal. Someone mentioned, oh, we used the Unfollow Rules app that's out there from the force.com labs folks. So that's another way of putting some logic on records and saying, you know, when something gets to this stage, Unfollow it. So that's also available. We link to it, I believe, in the blog post so you can find it from there.

Jason Atwood: So there you go. Go to blog.arcosync.com and read about Unfollowing Chatter Like a Pro. Next up is, and I'm trying to figure out why this is big news, but it's big news. Melissa Meyer. Marissa Marissa. Oh, that's why the search was coming up that like this Marissa Meyer Who as I guess was Google's first engineer first woman engineer?

Justin Edelstein: And was up a high ranking there. She was big time big big time to Google Have you ever watched her any of her her speaking engagements? I have not patience. I'm not issues very yeah She's pretty engaging and she's she's rather innovative. Okay Like back in the day when we were at that large company that Shell also remained nameless and we were doing search Internally and that was our big project the last number of years.

Jason Atwood: So she literally had one job on one day and the next day she's the CEO of Yahoo. Good luck. Which you know I think that's where I mean Yahoo to me is wow I mean that this is this is the way the story is going to turn out it's going to be like oh well you're just another person who tried to write the ship and it didn't get written you know it didn't get righted and now you're the Titanic. Or she turns it around and makes it into something amazing and then she becomes like the hero of all times. It's just interesting because obviously tons of money or whatever it was or a challenge or there was no place to go in Google, but Yahoo is sort of, I mean, I'm even, I'm racking my brain to try to think of Yahoo products that I use.

06:43 Jason Atwood: Well I was gonna ask you, do you use, do you use Yahoo for anything? thing.

Justin Edelstein: I'm trying to think because I do well, what do you use Yahoo for? I love Yahoo Sports Okay,

Jason Atwood: I do Yahoo has a great sports and they have great stats like their stats are easy to read and their box scores are great Yep, they have good

Justin Edelstein: Writers good scoops like their content on Yahoo Sports is really good, right? I don't use it for anything else though. Like I have a Yahoo account just because who doesn't? Because you have to have one to log into all their stuff. Like but I don't log into anything. I the question really is like, you know, will she be at Google, but since 2009,

Jason Atwood: I don't know if he's really done much to turn AOL around. Sadly, I think just the state of the world, this is more of a news because she's a woman and because she's leaving and becoming the CEO, I think it's sort of like, you know, it's it's a high ranking in a Pretty much male-dominated world means a few of that sort of elk There's a few so I think that's why it made a little bit more splash than if it had been any old Joe I listen, I would love for Yahoo turning around There was actually someone who posted a great blog post about like the 10 things She needs to do immediately at Yahoo. This is on my daily morning read of Zite and it was like, kill this, get all the engineers in a room and fire half of them.

Jason Atwood: I mean, it was like a bunch of stuff and you should kill off these projects, save these projects, put out something. I think one of them was like, get the smartest engineers in a room, tell them they have to have something ready. brand-new ready and done in two months out the door ready for clients some new thing that you guys can build get going None of this, you know waiting six months or nine months or whatever, you know

Justin Edelstein: Start to act like a startup I can't even think though like I'm trying to think of Yahoo and I'm like, hmm flicker. I Don't really use flicker. No, my girlfriend who's huge into photography even uses Picasa most of the time. She has Flickr account, but she doesn't really use it. I think back like delicious, but that's gone and it was sort of cool at the time, but gone.

Jason Atwood: Speaking of which, a little rattle. I don't think I made it to the agenda, but we didn't talk about it last week. Did we talk about Dig?

Justin Edelstein: No, we had already podcasted. Oh, maybe we should talk, I mean... In the age of dying technologies. And we're thinking, yeah, it's about the same time frame, right? Delicious, flicker, dig, all like the web 2.0, big, yeah, big like social contribution user created stuff.

09:55 Jason Atwood: Yeah. I just love the new things. It's like Pinterest, the coolest things. Like this thing has been done 500 times away. Oh, you take content from one place and you... Put it somewhere else for other people to look at right and to follow you putting stuff up shared bookmarks Marks, yeah I mean it's just been it's been done so many times They obviously are doing well, but because I think it's new and cool and whatever delicious was doing well

Justin Edelstein: At a time and then it was bought by Yahoo and it was still doing well when it was bought by Yahoo. Yeah, I don't know. But anyways, so Kevin Rose, the starter. How about Yahoo Pipes? Remember that process?

Jason Atwood: Yes, I remember that.

Justin Edelstein: And bought the assets out from underneath the dig. I had read, you know, there were some like flashy headlines that were out there. Dig sells for measly five hundred thousand dollars. But I read that that wasn't the true. Like one of the three companies bought their chunk for five hundred thousand dollars, which was essentially like the website. Yeah, and then there was how is that worth five hundred dollars? Maybe the website and its technology, but another company linked in I think bought all the patents So it's like if this company who bought website and technology for five hundred thousand dollars want to actually use it They have to license the patent from And the patent was like the voting up, right? bit of news stories, I- I read it was 12 million in total and not $500,000 and it was spread across.

Justin Edelstein: And it was spread across. Even 12 million dollars they were offered.

Jason Atwood: Even 12 million dollars they were offered by Google in 2008. So it's just interesting because again these were technologies that we didn't not only we like I mean they were sort of the the front of it and

Guest: That this can take these

Jason Atwood: You know, again, that's why when anybody goes, well, will Facebook be around forever? Will Facebook be around forever? You, you go, no way. Nothing's around forever. You might go in cycles, like, Apple's in this huge upswing right now. Microsoft is on this downswing, as we're going to get talked about. You know, Google's on this upswing. in scenarios where they were going to go out of business and got invested in by, by, by and I got to stay alive and we're in the world and everything that was known to man. And now you like, so Facebook to be forever. No, someone also come and I'm actually thinking that even the ones I think then. It's going We don't we for those of you who don get is orange. yeah all that is a green green is the one that green is the one you get a lot green is the one that you get a lot no orange because orange is both a color and is also a company oh well when we were

13:50 Justin Edelstein: At the large financial institution green was a big one because green has a meaning and green is also a color and like it you know has different

Guest: It's true so and green this is not as much as orange but anyway I guess orange is better banana cause it's a fruit and a company it whatever Yes.

Jason Atwood: It's a company in a color. So then talking about did I eat a orange today? Do I like oranges? Do I like an orange? I like orange, right? So am I saying I like the color orange am I saying I like the company orange? I- like I saying I like the fruit orange, right? Obviously there's a capitalization anyway so they're saying that they're building this into the next version of the product that we cannot get our hands on, Radian 6. And I think it's interesting, because what's really we use for is obviously looking at the social networks. So when people are hearing their sentiment analysis, or sentiment analysis, which is, OK, they use your brand name in a way, but how they use it, it's easy to put it out, I hate Arkus, right?

Jason Atwood: Which would never come up. But it's harder to pick out.

Justin Edelstein: I've had trouble with, you know, I've had trouble with Arkus, but it has been better. Well, let's take the example that is written here in this article. I'm trying to be original, new content, but not nine times. This one's better than yours. All right. So, I'll read the sentence, then I'll break it down. I'm loving the Apple Keynote. Totally want to get the new iPad. When is it coming out? Right. So they broke that into five pieces. Essentially sentiment. I'm loving right company Apple intent want to get Product new iPad and then customer service. When's it coming out? So from that very short tweet that was you know, 100 characters or whatever you can pull out Lot of information Use it in a lot of different ways to capture what people are feeling how they're talking about you How you might want to help them how you might want to sell something to them I Want to say the world's at your oyster when you can sort of figure out What people are saying in that?

Justin Edelstein: Way, yep. Now. This is a far. I feel like this is a far ways off This is really like a press release e thing. I don't think this is you know This is like a dream force thing I feel like it's a dream force thing but when you say it's a dream force thing that's different than it's a real thing Oh a dream force thing is the thing you see on a stage A real thing, something you can buy that day.

Guest: So, sure, it's a Dreamforce thing. Okay. We'll see this at Dreamforce.

Jason Atwood: You really think they, they never even really show, I mean they show Radian 6. Yeah. They don't even really show it. They don't even really show it. And that's the marketing cloud.

Guest: Radian, there it is. And they point to it. That's it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, again,

Jason Atwood: We've actually actually had people contact us since doing podcasting and since saying that we've been having trouble get our hands on those have gone into emails.

Guest: We have not heard back. So I'm hoping that some point some podcast, maybe the hundredth episode, maybe that person's listening right now who contacted us.

16:58 Justin Edelstein: Think I'll say oh you mean the person didn't get back to you. Let me follow up. Yeah Yeah,

Jason Atwood: Don't follow up. I'd love to be able to talk about it more intelligently. I don't get my hands on it

Justin Edelstein: I'd love to not make fun of it. Like I'd love to be able to talk positively about it I know that that's not truly objective. I want to talk positively about this product right I can't I feel like I'm always negative about it. Well, because you don't have, you feel like you can't get your hands off. Yeah, I've been burned. I've been burned? Yeah, I've been burned. And I'm saying it. So analyze that. Analyze that sentiment.

Guest: Awesome. All right, moving on to other sentiments.

Jason Atwood: So big, more big news in the cloud, probably the biggest cloud news of the week. Boy, we're getting really cloudy here. Microsoft is launching their next version of Office, which is heavily reliant on their SkyDrive technology, which is a direct sort of, you know, in the same game as iCloud,

Guest: As Dropbox, as Google Doc, a Google Drive, right?

Jason Atwood: And one of the big things is basically they're making it the default behavior for saving of anything. thing. And one of the other things I've read about it, which I thought was interesting was, as a licensed person for Office, if I go over to another computer, clearly not a Mac, but if I go over to another Windows computer, I can log in to that computer. If I don't have access, if there's no Office on that computer, they will actually... I can log into something that will then bring down, not an online version, but bring down a real version of Microsoft Word. Basically, you download a thin client to Microsoft Word. You can use it. It will then tell the version that's sitting on your desktop. This cannot be used because you're using it somewhere else.

Jason Atwood: But basically giving you... the full version of Word or Excel on a computer that you that's not yours. So that's pretty neat. That is neat. It seems a little bit like well if you just had the ability to get to it in the cloud Why would you need to bring down a thin client? Well, that's maybe Excel.

Justin Edelstein: I think Excel and to this point I still think PowerPoint because I've played with the Google presentations. I'm still I still think PowerPoint has some more juice some more power. there's still better like has points and it has power dragging and dropping things around on a desktop client versus dragging and dropping, things around on a web client. There's still it's still better. Dragging and dropping things around on a desktop client. But I never use word again. if I didn't have to. The only reason why I ever use Word is if someone sends me a Word document or requires me to send them a Word document. And guess what? I'm writing it in Google Docs and I'm exporting it as a Word document. I don't like working in Word. And if... Sheets could do what Excel can do from up.

20:01 Justin Edelstein: It's kind of silly that it can't from a power perspective like a Like it doesn't have the horsepower that the desktop version of Excel has Yeah, something that's running on this enormous cloud Stack can't do the things that something running on my desktop can do something sort of wrong with that, but I feel like they'll figure it out at some point.

Jason Atwood: I think it's not about whether it can do the crunching of it. It's whether it can render it to your face fast enough. So when you're, when you're, think about like the high, the data volumes when we open up and I opened up 19, I was playing around with 19 megabyte files this morning, you know, with just tons of data. It's that how does Google going to render that in in a webpage. that you could scroll through quickly, that wouldn't just blow up. Because in essence, you're opening up a 19 megabyte file, and you can then scroll around in it very quickly because it's, basically, in memory right in front of you. Think about that in a website. Does that mean I'm looking at a 19 megabyte home, 19 megabyte webpage? page. that then is rendered in HTML, which is not a very efficient rendering.

Jason Atwood: So I totally get why it is, and I use Excel all the time because of it. Because of that thing, I love the ability to share. If I have to share, I'm in Docs. But if I need to render or I need to. play with big data, I'm in Excel, you know, and there's, I don't see an end to that until someone makes a better engine. Well,

Justin Edelstein: Anyway, this, this new Office 15, which, I mean, I touched on earlier, 15 doesn't make any sense to me, because I'm on Office X. I'm on 2011.

Guest: No, you're on Office X. No. No I'm not. I'm on... Oh you're on 2011. I'm on 2011.

Justin Edelstein: The Mac version yeah. Yeah so like the numbers are really geared towards you know towards Windows. That's fine. That's their you know that's their prerogative and their bread and butter. And I do feel like the Windows version of Office gets a lot more... It's just better. Yeah. Like the Mac versions are not great.

Guest: Yeah, they have more features than the Mac versions have but I work I just don't I don't think they perform as well as as the because

Justin Edelstein: You can be on a really crappy old PC and Excel is pretty snappy if you're on it if you're not on the super awesome brand new MacBook Pro retina display With office your your little yeah, you're you're playing not the same ballgame You're slow Excel. Yeah, but I do like this whole you know what you said. I didn't even know that That's pretty cool the download of the thing client. I'm not sure I would ever do that I just go to because it looks like you're gonna be able to log right in and use a web browser based version of office And I like that. Obviously I'm very comfortable with using Google Docs. And I think that it's interesting that they're going to allow you to have this SkyDrive account and that you log into it as soon as you open the application.

23:18 Justin Edelstein: So it just sets the whole thing up for you. Hopefully that works seamlessly for people. I do think it's interesting the way that the article that I'm reading, I don't know the article that you read And in this office productivity space, I think that that's a really interesting way to phrase the conversation. Because you just rewind five years ago and it was Google taking aim at Microsoft for this space. and now it's Microsoft taking aim at Google. goal. for the same space. And I know Microsoft still has way more market share. It's a different slice of the space, if you will. Well, a couple things have been going on.

Jason Atwood: One is the IE market share has been coming way down. In fact, Google became the number one browser, you know. Chrome, Google Chrome did. So there's definitely, you know, they own search, right? Bing has been trying, but I don't think it's really made a big splash. slash. I think the thing with Microsoft is there is nowhere for them to go I know it's weird to say but like Google can take away from Microsoft because because Microsoft, stuff has 100%. Like if you have it, if you're in the office,

Guest: Office productivity suite software that you have, basically everybody has office.

Jason Atwood: So the only thing that Google can do is take away from office.

Justin Edelstein: What's office doing? taking back from Google? Well even the people that Google takes from Office, they pretty much still have Office. Like you and I, we've been taken from Office, right? We use Docs every single day. But we still have Office. And I use Excel every day. Yeah, because you need it. Yeah. So, all right, so now I have both. That's fine. I mean, I kind of wish that they would just play nice with each other, but I guess that's not business. No, that's not business.

Jason Atwood: That's not business. No, and you know, listen, I have lots of software and lots of software does lots of different things. Some things I need to work together and I need to play nice together and some things, I don't really care. Give me whatever you need, I'll do it. I like that the standards are coming better. that standards to open in this and open in that, Microsoft has done a good job of their standards are more open and XML-based for their new software. So it's easier to open up in this and save it as a Microsoft. I think that's good because you don't feel so locked in. But anyway, I just think it's it. Totally interesting as as it doesn't get me very excited as a Mac user because usually the Mac versions is behind

Guest: Behind It's nice good anyway, and and I only use one software.

Justin Edelstein: I mean, I don't use We're not big PowerPoint people at our gas.

Jason Atwood: No And I would use keynote if I had to use power power I use keynote well dreamforce

26:18 Justin Edelstein: I mean we're you know at Dreamforce where we're both speaking good segue We're we're both gonna have to use PowerPoint really they don't like you know no Powerpoints, I mean you might be able to because you're you're new you're doing a session that no I mean it's just you and one other guy and neither of you work at Salesforce So I imagine you can do whatever you want yet, but they send you the template right send it in PowerPoint

Guest: Is converted to keynote I guess but then you convert it back there is no point so speaking of which that's a good little segue

Jason Atwood: Into DF12 which is by the way almost 60 days away I was looking at the counter on the yeah there's that little counter going right

Justin Edelstein: The You're not gonna do that for the rest of the time. We're not gonna make it the 100 episodes out of you. Okay,

Jason Atwood: I'm going to do it for you. Okay. Okay. chatter and stuff like that like how do you handle chatter and that kind of anyway there's a group I'm actively putting things into it so new questions and I will probably as we get closer or even throughout the year I will probably bake some some blog posts around that topic and and get them in there so that's a it's called GTD group if you are getting things done and then GTD in colons or whatever, parentheses.

29:40 Guest: So look that up.

Jason Atwood: Again, we, I think we can start talking about this because the thing is official because we got our official sign. Official, we're speaking. Yeah, so we are both speaking.

Guest: Justin Edelstein and Jason Auer are speaking at Dreamforce.

Justin Edelstein: Yeah. I'm speaking twice. Yeah. At two different sessions.

Jason Atwood: I think there's. two sessions of the same, my same session. Ah, that's a good one. So, I don't know yet,

Guest: Cause I know I'm a speaker, I don't know if there's one or two sessions. Okay. But anyway, what's your sessions?

Justin Edelstein: One of them is a community-led session. Okay. So I'm actually the leader. Nice. I'm a session leader. Nice. talking about the Idea Exchange. So it's, I can't remember the exact title of it. It's kind of bad. Good job. It's about the idea. As I go quickly look up my title. I think it's called Idea Exchange under the covers. Okay. Sounds good. So it's all about how to leverage the Idea Exchange to get your ideas. is evangelized, get more votes, get the word out, and then we're also having two speakers with me who are going to talk about their use of the idea exchange, one of which is a product manager. I don't want to say the name because it might change. One of them is a product manager from Salesforce for the Idea Exchange and he's going to talk about the life cycle of an idea on the Idea Exchange from the other side, from the Salesforce perspective.

Justin Edelstein: Like what they do. What they do with those ideas and how the product managers are incentivized to use them and like kind of you know how they get into the pipeline. And then the other session... is about permission sets and developing against the permission sets API, where the sets of API is available for permission sets and permission set assignments. And it'll be myself, the great Adam Tormann. Oh, sorry. I think I just fell asleep. You scored it. I'm the great Adam Tormann, who's a product manager at Salesforce and actually... Matthew Lamb, who's another Salesforce MVP, who will be speaking together at that session. Great. Talking about permission sets. So you have the product manager and two people who have written products against the product sets. We'll be demoing our products. We'll be demoing the permissioner at Dreamforce during the session and obviously at booth 334.

Justin Edelstein: See how I snuck that in there? That was nice.

Jason Atwood: So I'm doing one session, but I'm doing it twice. So it's a little weird. I wonder if they'll be better the first time or second. Probably better. Probably the second time. And it's called building your brand. It does say two sessions.

Justin Edelstein: I wonder if it'll be on YouTube twice. Oh yeah.

Jason Atwood: That'd be interesting. You know, I've never gone back and watched my own YouTube videos.

Guest: I will say I have. You've watched mine or you've watched your own? My own.

Justin Edelstein: But before they were videos, I don't know what they are now. They're videos. Well, these were videos, but they weren't real videos. They were just the slides and audio over the slides.

Guest: Oh, yeah. Yeah, now I know their actual videos. But anyway, ours is called, I'm doing with Mike Gerhol from Button Quick. Oh, everybody, Mike. Yeah. Who I've been on his website before. You have? You have? So we're so incestuous in the Salesforce community. It's so cool. Okay.

32:57 Jason Atwood: So anyway, what we're doing, it's building your brand. So it's a session, I'm not gonna read the little session thing, but it's about building. You've built, you've pulled up that whole thing

Justin Edelstein: And had the whole thing in front of you. Right, because I'm prepared, because I build my brand.

Jason Atwood: But it's about building your personal brand and your sort of your company, your personal. Well, We've already built out our outline for this because I think they were due and I think the content's gonna be great We're gonna do more conversational style. the content is gonna be great. We're gonna do a lot of like How we do it and tips and tricks and things so I think it's gonna be a great session Apparently went great last year, so it can only be greater

Justin Edelstein: This year Maybe so that's well you're involved this year, so I have to imagine there you go better Yeah, I complimented you I could have went the other way on that one and I didn't Yeah, you could I was nice and you didn't do it.

Jason Atwood: I am gonna use that slide Do you remember that thing I showed I built I shared it Arkus haven't shared it publicly yet Or I oh, yeah, I remember your thing took

Justin Edelstein: All the icons for all the probably had a few to it I'm going since you Built that yeah, so that's gonna be a board one day and built that thing. Yeah, that was fun. That was fun All right.

Jason Atwood: Well I'm gonna call you out and I'm doing a cloud focus after pick of the week. No, this is wrong. This is right. No, this is really wrong. We can't have an episode pick of the week. Here's the thing.

Justin Edelstein: Here's the thing. We said last week. Yes. That we were not gonna do picks on this podcast. Go on. Don't use my words. Ha ha ha. You know there's a TV show that's coming out called Go On with Matthew Perry. And I'm like, you stole my word. Matthew Perry the guy from friends. Oh, okay. Like you stole my Matthew Barry I know I'm Matthew Barry. I'm not you Perry with me. I didn't pop my pee because I'm a broadcaster. Yep I don't have a pic now. Here's the thing. I really want to pick this Hardware pic but I got it and I I got it in advance of episode 100 so I can use it as part of that Pick I have it now But it doesn't work. Aww. I really want to pick this thing and like review it.

Justin Edelstein: Yeah, that thing over there behind me. Why did you want to pick it? But I haven't used it.

Jason Atwood: You used it for about two minutes. Let me pick it. You pick it. You know what? Because I'm going to do a hardware pick.

Justin Edelstein: Alright. I'm just screwing it over behind myself to go get it.

Jason Atwood: 99th episode of Copswix Weekly. We're going to do two hardware picks. We're going to do two hardware picks. Because next week, just as a reminder. Software picks. Hundreds. Well, you can do hardware or software. Oh, mine are all software. more. 100th episode we're gonna pick five of our favorite picks of our own from the last hundred episodes over the course of time over the Cost of two years. I think we're like this is it.

Guest: This is the two-year anniversary We have 99 to pick from and then we have

Jason Atwood: Well, yes, but picking this one basically 98. Yeah, I'm not picking this. You can't pick this one again And then we're gonna pick five brand new ones. So I expect you're gonna give me your top five lists of all time picks for CloudFocus Weekly, pick a week, and then you're gonna give me five brand new awesome picks. Maybe the week after we'll have no picks, because then we'll be out of picks. But right now I'm still a ton of picks. You're flush. I'm flush.

36:02 Justin Edelstein: Okay, so as everyone knows, I'm talking right now into the Blue Snowball. Yes. The Blue Snowball is the name of the microphone that I'm talking into. Yes, you are. I am. And Blue. Which I didn't realize it stands for you know it stands for like Baltic Latvian Something hold on now. I now I have to tell you wow Blue stands for Baltic Latvian universal electronics great new new So,

Guest: They're a great microphone company. I really enjoy the Blue Microphone. They make a microphone that looks surprisingly like a bomb when you bring it to the airport.

Justin Edelstein: You don't want to try and fly to Dreamforce with this, in your suitcase. Lesson learned. It's happened. So, they came out with a brand new mic. Yep. Called the Tiki. and the Tiki is a small little microphone that has this like muting technology in it like noise cancellation muting the ability to allow like you plug it into your little USB port and you can use it like I use go-to meeting constantly like all day long I don't use the phone I use go-to meeting and I use it through my computer right and I use either headphones or the speakers on my computer I wanted to use this tiki because it has a really nice ability to like mute ambient sounds mute you when you're not talking, it can detect that, and also like if you're typing, it knows that you're typing and like can mute that out, mute out the fans and all that stuff.

Justin Edelstein: So I bought this thing and I plugged it in and it worked once. Well it worked long enough for us to record a little sample. We did record a little sample on QuickTime and it sounded great. D- It sounded a lot better. We did a comparison. We did. We did a recording of just using the built-in speaker or built-in microphone on the MacBook, and then we used the Tiki. The Tiki sounded great. It sounded great. But then it stopped working. And didn't sound so great. It just didn't sound like anything. It just stopped. That is some really good muting technology. It was just completely muted. If they can mute you completely. It wouldn't even show up as an option for an input. So, but, to Blue's credit... Put in a ticket online.

Justin Edelstein: I got an email back within two business days. Yeah with an attached spreadsheet Well, how's like is it credit kind of well? I was a little laughing at it But essentially it's a it's a spreadsheet that has a number on it an RMA number. Yes and very common right so it allows me to send this tiki back yep to them and they're gonna send me a brand new one good i have to pay for the shipping to send it to them but but not to get it back okay i prefer them to pick that up but that's okay i'll let them have it yeah you know at least they're you know taking care of it they're gonna take it as it is it's i have the box and everything i Literally used it once. Yeah, and but anyway, I I feel like this is gonna be great for me when I finally get it I can use it.

39:10 Justin Edelstein: It has a little extension USB. It can plug right into the side of the computer if you want I'll let you guys know when I actually start using it But for now since I really didn't have a pic paired and I wanted to use this as one of my picks Now you're one less pick I used it.

Jason Atwood: So well you went with new technology and I actually I mean, true story is, I saw that online, and I thought of you, because of the voice thing and the go-to meeting, I, who will buy every technology that comes out regardless, looked at it and thought, well, I won't use that because I never have my laptop open. I never use my laptop as a laptop very often. I use it connected to a big monitor, and I have to keep it closed. And I was like, well, that's not going to work for me. But then you saw... Show the extension, USB. Show extension. So I'm actually... get it to work,

Justin Edelstein: Then maybe I'll buy one. But, you know, you do have the microphone that's sitting in front of you that you can use. I could use that. It's the same exact thing. It's pretty big.

Jason Atwood: It's not, but that one you could travel with. You can put that in your bag. You put that in your grid, ooh. You could if you wanted to. Look at that, I'm cross-reversing. All right, so my pick of the week is gonna be, I'm calling it the,

Guest: Oh, what was the price on that. By the way.

Justin Edelstein: $69 might be your highest your highest top focus. We definitely my highest pick ever

Jason Atwood: Mine is going to be it's my highest pick yet No, I picked did I pick the Jam box Jam box is more than this. But anyway Box was a couple hundred bucks.

Justin Edelstein: Well, you know science. It's under 200.

Jason Atwood: But anyway So I have been forever free who follow me on Twitter We are obviously, or I am obviously a Mac guy. I talk about the iPad, the iPhone, or whatever. And we talked about Amazon and reading things on Kindle and iBooks, and I have, for the longest time, since the Kindle came out, I have been saying, I don't need a Kindle. I'm like, I have two devices in my house that I can read the exact same content on. and I'm like, I don't need the Kindle. I don't need a Kindle, I don't have no need for it. And I also don't like the beach. Thank you so much. or sitting by the pool, so the outdoorsy-ness of it doesn't really bother me. So the other week I was actually out at the beach, not out there with the family, and I was trying to read something on my...

Jason Atwood: I was trying to read... I was trying to read... Delivering Happiness. Tony Shea out on the beach. And on the - on the ipad is just too much of a big thing just players But on the iphone is smaller whatever did a sunburn with that yeah, and it- just didn't it just didn't work Like it wasn't good and so I went re-started reading up on maybe it's time for a kindle and try it out So I went online and I bought myself a kindle a my pick of the week is the lowest model kindle kindle that there Is on the planet which is just like kindle kindle a I don't know kindle life Kindle Lite, it's the $79 version. It is ad supported. In fact, you can see an ad for Batman DC Heroes 2 on the front of it.

Jason Atwood: But I'll tell you, for those of you, for the two people out there in the world that don't own a Kindle, and there's gotta be two out, you the one. Okay, well then you and the other guy, Kuz it's just, I just feel like I'm the last person, but I'm usually the guy who buys everything fast first. So me to be the last person in seems kinda weird. But anyway. I'm, I'm surprised you didn't get a Kindle when it. first came out and the reason was I didn't need to but you're like a family Kindle well that's yeah I don't know I don't know didn't do it well that's the thing my wife who reads big

42:38 Justin Edelstein: Reader tons of books read them on the iPhone loves it but but but the Kindle came out before the iPhone did it no not the Kindle no But before you could read a book on the iPhone, the Kindle was out.

Guest: Yeah, that's probably true. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. Weird thing. Anyway, so I got the lowest end model. It's Wi-Fi only. It's ads poor. It's $79. And I will tell you,

Jason Atwood: I have been enjoying it greatly. It is reading pleasure. Like, and what I'll say about it that I really like is that it only does one thing very well. It does books. It looks great in reading. You can read it everywhere except for in the dark, which is a great place to read the Ipad version. It syncs, of course. If you're an Amazon Prime member, which I think is important, you get a hundred and forty five thousand books that you get to get for free, like one a month. That's kind of a big deal because... You know a book is between seven and ten dollars if you really went and got one book a month Well, that's you

Guest: Know, that basically pays for it in a year This is great.

Justin Edelstein: I'm flipping between the pages. The controls are on both sides. I mean, it's so here's the thing Here's why it is. It is very good.

Jason Atwood: I do want to touch it though. Yeah, it's not I want to touch it I didn't get the touch version because I like a was a little bit It was a little bit more money which wasn't the problem But it. It was it was it's a little wait a little bit more and I was like I want this to be as light as possible. I want to be as light and you can put it in your pocket It really is, it is as close as you're gonna get to a diddid, paperback book. Or you could search the book. Yeah, you can do all that stuff. You see the quotes, you can tweet things from it, you can do all this. Or is it less like text? I don't know. Again, it's a great book reader.

Jason Atwood: So for those of you who haven't out there, again, I have fallen off, I've finally bought a Kindle.

Guest: I'm enjoying it. to........................

Jason Atwood: What is the size of the key to so one in the train I can pull this out so light so whatever I don I, you know, supported thing, I don't even care. It doesn't, it doesn't pop it up in the books. It's the only one it it's on sort of, sort of off in sleep mode. The Kindle by Amazon, I guess I'm the last person in the world, but it's my 99th pick for this podcast. So speaking of podcasts, next week will be our hundredth episode. So we're going to have a little bit of special stuff. We have a couple of surprises for you guys.... So we'll be recording that next week, actually next, I think, Thursday, as we have it on the docket because this one has to be scheduled. So we'll see you then.

46:19 Guest: Remember to go to blog.arcasync.com, read up on all the blogs.

Jason Atwood: Follow us at ArcaSync or Jason M. Atwood or just Edelstein. We're on Facebook, Facebook.com slash ArcaSync, where we put up all of our podcasts and blog posts. We can comment. We always say go comment there or just Edelstein. You can also comment using discuss in our website. We're on Google+, which is nice, and also remember to subscribe to the podcast in iTunes, or one of you who are using one of the myriad of podcasting apps out there, whatever you want. Podcast is free, or you want to use one of the ones we talked about last week or two weeks ago. Do that. So for us, for the 99th time, it's been a pleasure, Justin. Can't wait to make 200. I will say, for the 99th time anyway, enjoy those cloudy days.