The Big 6.0 - Episode #95 of CloudFocus Podcast

Machine transcript generated in 2026 from the episode audio (Whisper speech-to-text with automatic speaker separation). Speaker labels are automatic and may be wrong in places. Timestamps shown every few minutes.

00:10 Jason Atwood: This is the 95th episode of CloudFocus Weekly for the third week of June 2012. This episode is titled The Big 6.0. CloudFocus Weekly is sponsored by Arkus. Cloud Community experts. I'm your host, Chase Natwood. And joining me for the 95th time in a row Slowly creeping up on a hundred here Is Justin Edelstein?

Justin Edelstein: You're watching me count on my fingers. That's that is something 95 to 100. It's really sad It's how many more episodes do we have be five. Yeah,

Jason Atwood: I was sad. I realize that afterwards pretty quick math yeah, so we're cutting up. We have a couple things we're doing for our 100th episode. They're gonna be a little bit, you know, little bit interesting for those who are listening. Let's be coy about it. All right, that's fine. I'm being coy. And now we have some stuff we're gonna do for Dreamforce. That's even more interesting. Hopefully.

Justin Edelstein: Yes. Well, hopefully people find it interesting. Hopefully not less interesting. How could it be less interesting? How could it be?

Jason Atwood: But let's get to our agenda today. We have the blog post du jour, which we can talk about. And then we have Apple news, Salesforce news, Microsoft news? Question mark? And there's a little bit of Dreamforce. I'm not sure, I don't think I had to sign any A&D to talk about that little thing we saw. So we can talk about what we saw in that piece. Kind of interesting. Little things that we know are already coming in Dreamforce. Sort of the big release, you know, the Dreamforce release of Salesforce. Alright, so first up is the blog post. This week, reviewing Chatter Messenger. Pros and areas, pros and areas for growth. Boy, that might get renamed before he gets out there. I think that's going to get it. The Blogmaster,

Justin Edelstein: Myself, I'm going to rename that for whomever wrote it and make it a little bit easier to read and consume. Yeah, I would think reviewing Salesforce.com's chatter messenger.

Jason Atwood: Yeah, yeah. How about that? Also, I want that. A review. I want that SEO in the title, thanks. By the way, the blog post I posted... I don't know, one of our iTunes matched, I think it was almost a year ago.

Justin Edelstein: Still one of the most searched terms that hits our... I know I saw that, I was looking at the Google Analytics just last week and I was looking through what people look for and land on us and I was surprised that that was in the top 10.

Jason Atwood: Yep, it is, for some reason iTunes matched review, we were the only people to ever write a matched review. Must have been. You can find that. We might be the only ones using it.

Justin Edelstein: No. No, it's got all users. The only ones using ping.

Jason Atwood: Ping, yes, the death of ping. I guess we can talk about that too. But let's get it. So, I won't go over too much. It's not up on the website today as you're listening to this, but maybe if you download this tomorrow, being Friday, it will be up on the blog blog.harkets.com. Basically review of chatter messenger so chatter messenger which came out as part of the spring summer 12 release from Salesforce It is an IM client instant messaging built into Salesforce We've had some time to use it and so one of us wrote a review of it I don't really want to read the review so much as maybe just ask you like Thoughts on it since you've been using it for a bit.

03:21 Justin Edelstein: You actually have a really used I have an interesting use you have a great use case want you sure so as you know, we're your cloud computing experts That's it. We do some consulting we do and we have clients and I have trained one of our clients to use chatter and to you know use it as a communication tool and he's Gotten so used to doing that that when he has questions He just chatters me on my wall in his org, right? so he posts something to chatter in their org and I see it and I respond and then Inevitably I log into their org right I see he's there. So all of a sudden now where I am now I have I am with one of our clients, chatter messenger, because I have a login to his org, which may change over time, but for now, not changing.

Justin Edelstein: And we were going back and forth and he shot a bunch of questions back and forth, real time, doing our thing, make a change here, make a change there, build a report here, do this, do that. And we knocked out like four or five things really quickly that would have taken a lot longer if we would have even just stayed in chatter. chatter chatter as opposed to chatter messenger chatter I don't even know what to call it it's normal old-school chatter old-school chatter at this area so yeah we went back and forth over I am or chatter messenger whatever you want to call it and knocked out a few things it was kind of an interesting way to use it I'll say in our org we haven't really been using it because we have we have i mean i was i was joking with you the other day because we were we you and i were talking over three different mediums like i think we were chatting with google chat about something we chattered in the org and then we were in a google doc where we were like chatting so we were just chatting everywhere right not to mention the 10 or 15 emails the lead yeah so one of the takeaways at the end of the blog post was to try and get chatter messenger and chatter embedded into some other places where you're already communicating because too many contexts too many places as an organization you sort of have to decide right culturally we're gonna do this we're gonna do that here at Arkus chatter messenger hasn't really taken off yet because we have we basically have two other presence awareness

Jason Atwood: And places where I can see if you're If you're, by the way, coming to arrest you for using a chat messenger. Yeah, I think so. I think so. Hey, we're in the heart of Times Square. This is what happens. Sirens happen.

Justin Edelstein: Police happens. It's outside.

Jason Atwood: So we already have two, and I think lots of organizations, to me the chatter messenger gets all of its power in the organizations who don't have those two other places. So if you're not using Google Docs with awareness, with presence, and you're not using an IAM client, But you are a huge salesforce shop with chatter and don't mind the compliance problems of it, which means it cannot capture any of it. Then it's a great thing because it's free, it built in, it works pretty well, it has a little... It's built into a browser so it's always as dependent as the browser, which is always the thing when I've used browser-based IMs. I've always felt a little bit like, yeah, that's the problem with this, is because my browser isn't something I consider open constantly.

07:02 Jason Atwood: I Google talk because now I have a a little pop out,

Justin Edelstein: Pop it out. But it doesn't do some of the things that, you know, about chat, like into our Google chat that we've been. and see the whole chat. So, one last thing that the blog post does mention, when you guys read it, you.s going beyond presence. And so I'm logged into Salesforce. So I'm always logged into Salesforce. I'm talking to you about this opportunity right here in front of me. I want to quickly get that to you. I just want to click a button and be like, I'm here. At this record, come meet me here so we can talk about it. Meet me at the office. Meet me at this opportunity. Or meet me somewhere. Right. I want you to meet me here. I want an easy way to do that. Yeah, copy paste, this, that.

Justin Edelstein: No. But you figure you're in Salesforce. I'm in it. You know I'm in it. I want to tell you where I am in it.

Jason Atwood: Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh If I'm on So again, all things I think they can do, but interesting. I mean, again, free, kind of nice, works, does the typing ahead, tells when people are typing, does awareness, does all that kind of neat stuff. Has a few rounds to go before I think it would become immediately desktop integration, or even iOS integration. something cool too. All right, next up, speaking of iOS, there's a whole bunch of stuff. So Apple had their WWDC, the Worldwide Developers Conference, last week, this week? This week, Tuesday, or Monday, this week. And they, it seems like months ago, since I've read so much stuff about it. And basically, they released a... full set of things. Now a lot of it is hardware based and OS based and this isn't the iOS based, iOS weekly or Mac News weekly.

10:44 Jason Atwood: We're supposed to be a cloud computing shell although we are Mac fanboy. So I want to stick it to where they, you know, release features that are... Cloud based and so I want to hit a couple things I'm gonna cool off over the fact that the new Mac books are out you're gonna have to do this because I Did not pay so I'm gonna have to hold up the entire show by myself like the other 94 times I've done pretty much Okay, excellent So there are sort of there are sort of features in a bunch of different places that I think are sort of interesting to our Cloud audience one is iCloud is everywhere now It's integrated very well both into the application into the iOS the new one mountain lion Which is coming up which will be $20 1995 and you can start on five computers Wow They are just basically saying this thing is I OS is now are like they're almost free 20 bucks for an OS is is basically Free at pretty much I almost expect there to be nothing you know, a lot of the sharing stuff.

Jason Atwood: So things that you do on your desktop will show up on your iOS device and vice versa. So the one I thought was interesting was called, they call in cloud tabs. We could talk about that. If you're looking at your Safari in on your desktop, you can hit a cloud's tab button. We'll show you what, what browser, what tab you have open on your iPhone and on your, on your iPad. So there you're like in line. They're not the same ones. but you can see them, you can so say these. And you can open them? Then you can open them. So then you can see if I was looking at this on my iPhone, I can now open it right up. I don't have to navigate to it. That's a lot of like,

Justin Edelstein: Seems like a lot of data movement from my phone.

Jason Atwood: Your phone will be constantly sending stuff back and forth into iCloud.

Justin Edelstein: I hope they're going to do something with that battery.

Jason Atwood: Yeah, I don don't know if that will be. I mean you're doing it now, you just don't know it. There's all sorts of stuff. There's offline reading, so the reading list now just like, like, instapaper, these places you're not using, you hit i, it'll now be offline. So if you say read later, you go to your iPad, you don't actually have it on your version, you can read offline, automatically waiting for you. try to think of the other stuff that was really It's a lot of fun to talk to You know, there's a lot of like, little stuff, but I think it's just great that they're integrating iCloud into it. So, notification. So, you're not a big iPad user, but the rest of us are... We're a big iPhone user. But when you get a notification on your iPhone, it also shows up on your iPad.

Jason Atwood: So let's say I get a, tweet, and it shows up Twitter here and Twitter there. Now, if I go in and I dismiss it on my iPhone, it'll tell my iPhone. iCloud is becoming not the Dropbox, not Google Docs, not Google Wave or Gmail or whatever. iCloud is becoming, it's the back end. It's more important than those things. It's capturing your back end stuff and making sure they're available everywhere without you doing a lot of work. Where is in Google Docs? documents that are syncing, Dropbox is syncing, you know this is all like no preferences and things in the background that you don't even want to think about. We're handling and we're kind of we're doing-in the background So just to make your life easier and I thought it was an interesting take on the cloud or using the power of the internet And the cloud which was we're not using is something you're even seeing or thinking about we're just doing it and I kind of like that I still have a mental block against iCloud in certain scenarios.

14:38 Justin Edelstein: Like I get how it works in some respects. And then in other respects it's like, I guess I really just haven't used it. Like I don't do documents anymore. So, like if I were to...

Jason Atwood: Open up a word document or save it like how does nothing would happen? No, but if you open up a pages document and it would be available on all your devices instantaneously so it's Specific applications have iCloud sort of built into and that's really I mean there's a lot of games now on the iOS There's a lot of games that store their progress in the iCloud So you could literally start a game on your iPhone, go over to your iPad, and then start it up and be like, here's where you were. None of this, like, devices become independent I think that's where it's really exciting. Well, do you have that with, with, the,. Doesn't Instacast have like an iCloud synchre? It does. And so do the other three that do whatever. And they will tell which ones you've listened to and which ones you haven't.

Jason Atwood: So if you basically if you listen to something

Justin Edelstein: What I mean is like you're listening to something on your phone you stop in the middle you can pick up on the iPad.

Jason Atwood: Yes some of them do I don't know if it's a cast as it because I don't use it on my phone but again that's really what I'm interested to see where this is going in terms of. Again, it's so, most of the cloud stuff we talk about is really about this stuff that the This one's a little weird. Well a little next one's weird. But so Salesforce signs up for the Twitter fire hose. Well, we're rating it six really. For right. Which actually reminded me as I was in artwork today and I was looking at all these fields all over the lead that were like Twitter this, Twitter that, Twitter that. And I was like,

Justin Edelstein: Boy, we don't use any of that, no, none of it. So useless.

Jason Atwood: Twitter or Facebook integration that is the package. Unless you're like your business models around it. And I know we take in tweets and stuff from support at Arca support on Twitter. But like, man, it just doesn't, it just looks messy and not well thought out. And maybe there's a little old. Yeah, this old school. But anyway, so Salesforce signed up for the Twitter firehose, which the 800 million tweet today can get firehosed into Radian 6, where you can a monitor it. I don't think we need to go with Radian 6 and we don't even know what it looks like. Can they handle that amount of data? I wonder.

17:48 Justin Edelstein: I'm sure they could. I don't know. I've heard rumblings about the reason why it's not so easy to get a... free trial of Radian 6 is that it can't just be like booted up it's gotta like For free trial and I can go start this specific things. Well, maybe there's more setup than we think anyway So they got the fire hose fantastic. I mean, I think this is interesting more for Twitter than for Salesforce Twitter sold something like Twitter has something that people want to buy. Oh, yeah, right But by your tweets by the fire

Jason Atwood: Hose and immediately I thought I might like use it for and resell it right essentially That's what I was thinking. It's like wow, this is if If Facebook had said the same thing, we just sold every status update every day to Microsoft,

Justin Edelstein: Wouldn't the world just collide? Well, it's a very different thing. Well, it is and isn't.

Jason Atwood: There are two different models, but if I just took away the Facebook and took away Twitter and said, you have a space, you go in, you type in your stuff. And then you hit and you submit it to some website.

Justin Edelstein: No, they're different They're they're different for one very, very one, but, very big thing. Twitter, big thing. Twitter is public. It is a blog It's a blog. It's 140 characters, but it's a blog. You know you, know you can public you can post public things on Facebook now. Sure, but you also know that you can also public not publish public things and keep them private specifically saying this is a private status update

Jason Atwood: For these people to see I think I think I think it was Al Franken who I said and I said before and I'll say say it again for everybody who's a big Facebook user just know that you I'm staring right at you Justin and you the microphone Snowball you our Facebook products. Yes, you you are the matrix. You are the jelly Jellys feeding Facebook. So just realize anything you kind of give them you're giving them the power to do that and so It's taming Twitter, but I saw is interesting because oh, yeah They could sell they could sell every tweet that ever happened in a day or you know A fire hose and sell it to a for-profit company, which is gonna use it to monitor what you're doing And everybody goes, yeah, that's fine.

Jason Atwood: But if Facebook had done the same thing, even if they had said the public ones, even if Facebook came out tomorrow and said, we've sold to Microsoft, every public status update that's ever happening, we sold it. Anything you made public, Microsoft can pull it in into their engine. Everybody would have three shoot fits.

Justin Edelstein: Almost made They'd have to make it very explicit and saying it's just the People understand that well, that's the problem, but I don't understand it so then there's the shoot fit, but I I mean Twitter is totally you don't have a preference really I mean you can make your profile private so that people can't. like follow you unless you say. And DM people. You can DM people which they're not selling. I don't know if it's part of the feed or not. Oh, definitely not. You can't sell people those private little DMs.

21:03 Jason Atwood: That's not public. I don't know. I use Twitter in such a way that if they've wanted to, fine. Yeah, me too. Because I don't assume that they're not. Right, it's, it's it's it. Right, it's all right.

Justin Edelstein: Firehose. Yeah, I sort of just assumed that they had it so this doesn't really strike me as all that interesting from a Salesforce Radian 6 perspective. I think it's more interesting from a, oh look Twitter has a way to make money perspective because people are that interested in this. Well and they're also watching Facebook's IPO kind of crash and thinking well when's Twitter gonna go?

Jason Atwood: They're saying Twitter might be 2013 now. In some ways Twitter I think could come out with a better... IPO I feel like people would just like LinkedIn I feel like Twitter has much more specific and is much more Known what they what it is LinkedIn is like LinkedIn and then Facebook always has this weird. It's like private is personal It's sharing its friends. It's the show social graph tours like micro blogging. Yeah, you know with some like trends. Yeah, they're doing, they're doing, they actually launched the NASCAR they launched. They now have hashtag topic pages. So if you go to twitter.com slash, I think, pound NASCAR, they have a whole page that's built up of all the stuff that's happening on NASCAR. That's cool stuff. Alright, next up. Let's do it. This actually gets stepping on people's toes.

Jason Atwood: The rumor, not true. Rumor rumor rumor. is that Microsoft is gonna buy Yammer for $1 billion. Now who rares about the price, even if it's $1.50, it wouldn't really matter, I don't really care, I don't have anything to do with Yammer. Other than, Yammer is a massive competitor to Chatter, in fact, the before Chatter Chatter, Salesforce's Chatter. And Microsoft is a massive competitor to Salesforce in the CRM, cloud, you know, space in many, many ways. So, them making a huge sort of push into what we would now call the social enterprise is interesting. Well, Yammer is the enterprise social network.

Justin Edelstein: That they call themselves yeah the enterprise social network enterprise not going to do another one. I don't want to. I now admittedly don't know enough about Yammer. I had at the time played with it. Now I don. Really know much about what it can and can't do. From people who have talked to you though, they like Yammer when they used it. They said, oh, it has a really good rich features. They liked it. It was well adopted. at their company particularly.

24:08 Jason Atwood: I think we've talked about this before, but where we saw someone go from chat, go from Yammer to chat or to adoption, drop off. Dropped away off, cause Yammer had a few things and it was just ingrained in people and that's that. I think that's what I'd say. I just expect if I take away anybody's anything and give them anything better, the adoption is never gonna go up. People, I've known too many people at those big corporations I worked at, that. That's it. It doesn't matter what you change. If it went from, you know, you had to go outside to go to the bathroom to I put a bathroom inside, they go, well, I used to like the walk. You're like, really? You used to go outside. And then, yeah. I think people just get ingrained.

Jason Atwood: It'd be interesting to follow that a year after, whatever. But,

Justin Edelstein: So- Did you see Mark Benioff's Facebook status this morning? Please enlighten me. Oh, he had this picture of, it was like a huge Microsoft sign. Fine. one that would go on a building like a big one okay it was like on a loaded on a tractor trailer Yeah, that's I'm making hand motions as if people can see me. Yeah, there's no video for And it's like yeah, SharePoint social it like post documents and stuff social yeah, it's cloud You can like host it somewhere, so They got to do something if I were if I were salesforce I would be long term I'd be a little

Jason Atwood: Worried because I think Just that they were gonna buy this user base and be able to sell as part of the package also just the Microsoft install base.

Justin Edelstein: Right. If you're looking for something different like a chatter and and you've got your Microsoft stack and then the Microsoft sales guy comes in and is like, yeah well, we got Yammer, it's pretty darn good. And that's the thing, RYAN GARRETT isn't bad.

Jason Atwood: They didn't buy a bad version of something. They bought something that, feature for feature is probably better than chatter. My guess right now. It's been around longer, I think it's probably better. You know, is it built in Salesforce? No, but now they built this in. But Microsoft has a very good track record of... When you say good, do you mean bad? No, I mean great, great, great, great track record. You're talking about Skype, maybe? Buying things, doing nothing with with them for many years, and basically killing them off because they don't really know how to run that business. They almost You know, they just Microsoft just hasn't been able to get out of its own way. I don't know if it's corporation, I don't know if it's leadership, I don't know what it is. But they've had so many examples of buying these things.

Jason Atwood: And they try to integrate it, it usually kills it off, because maybe it's cultural. So sales force, I'd be like, okay, great. You just put your cards on the table, you want to get into the space. Great, now- we know that you're validating our vision. That's awesome. Awesome. you're probably in a year or two you'll have something that you can build into who knows it's a big if but you know then you think great we're just gonna innovate we're gonna innovate our way around you which is always what Microsoft's problem is they don't really innovate they just they just sort of follow other people and in this industry and most industries they generally don't you know, they can't catch up. So anyway, interesting, interesting. The last of the new interesting things was a something sort of, you know, a little bit of breaking news, which is that we sat on a webinar showing applications on the app exchange like the Commissioner and Compliance for Shatter, Humble blog, Humble Book Tag, showing them sort of what they're doing in the next round, the, next release and interesting enough they're re-releasing the app exchange and they're making it much more social.

28:26 Jason Atwood: That's clear. But the bring-in-ing is a couple cool features which I thought was interesting. For example, hey C and get ready because there's a deadline and you better like do stuff you.

Justin Edelstein: You the you the social enterprise to pick up off of a shared dropbox fold you're gonna have access to I Don't get it.

Jason Atwood: Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, the First of all you clearly weren't involved in booth.

Justin Edelstein: That's exactly what S S S S S S I know why. I just set up a chatter organ in there and let me do stuff in there. True, and as partners we already have a partner... Org, the partner portal.

Jason Atwood: I wonder if it's for every app exchange product. partner though. Sure. You think you have to be part of the partner portal? Yes. Then why wouldn't you just do it there? I don't know. And they have content up there? I don't know.

Justin Edelstein: Probably because that partner portal is pretty custom and to make a change to it is probably a a pretty lengthy experience. Flight Force. And done. You know, you can say all these things but then doing them is a different story. Oh I do them all the time but I just. I was making more of a joke.

Jason Atwood: So interesting enough, much more social. They're going to integrate chatter-like discussions.

Justin Edelstein: Seems like a chatter answers type of implementation. Answers, not ideas.

Jason Atwood: We saw an Ideas tab, and I was like, whoo, ideas. Because here's the thing. As an app exchange product company, which we have two free app exchanges and don't really want to go into pay, You basically don't want to have to host a lot of stuff,. And or maybe someone else who's a permission or user can go in and go, oh, this is that's just a that's the likelihood of that happening is slim. I don't think so at all. I think for someone like going to something like Kong composer, I would definitely go in and answer just like I would on Quora or answers. I think just brilliant. Well done. If they do it right and integrate with the whole answers thing and sort of answers for app exchange I could totally see people doing it.

31:37 Jason Atwood: We'll see. Plus they can get their people to do it.

Justin Edelstein: The question that was asked a number of times. What does the app exchange mobile mean? What does it do? Is it just a browse search or is it a real action thing?

Jason Atwood: It's a listing of the mobile stuff built from mobile so if you go to the app exchange on your mobile device it recognizes it. You think it's only for mobile device? No, apps. You can get it.

Justin Edelstein: Don't, yes, it's only for mobile devices. Is that what you got for me? Because that's what I got from it. I don't know about that. It looked as though it was full app exchange site optimized for mobile.

Jason Atwood: That's what I got from it. Oh, oh yeah. Sorry. There's the AppExchange Mobile. The Mobile AppExchange, which is a listing of things that are just built for mobile. Then there's a AppExchange site rebuilt so so it works well on mobile.

Justin Edelstein: That's the part I didn't really get, is it? Am I searching for things or am I actually actually installing things from here?

Jason Atwood: Because if I I think it a smart looking so it right now I think if you go the app exchange with your mobile device It's a little clunky like some of the technologies a little older So it's not using the news HTML and stuff so like navigating around tougher I think they're gonna make it just they're gonna make it probably HTML 5 and much easier to do stuff In fact they were going to

Justin Edelstein: Let's go to our CloudFocus app, Pics of the Week! Is that the name of your pic that you just put in there? Yes, it is. So, I'm picking an app for the iPad. So, I've actually been using iPad for this one. specific purpose recently. Really? And the app... I them not having changed the channel on the television that the little ladies watching and and and she's watching and Finals was on there you're going Yeah.

35:55 Jason Atwood: Oh, well that'd be great. I actually have not downloaded it because either I looked or something. I just didn't see it And I was. Like wow. I'm gonna feel upset that I can can't it.

Justin Edelstein: It's pretty good. It's just. It's just full on. It streams really well. Like good HD quality ESPN. ESPN. ESPN. ESPN2, ESPNNews, ESPNU, ESPN. Anything that's on including things that aren't on the television because they got the ESPN. It's like its own thing. So you can pretty much find most sports that are all live. You can pretty much find it. That's great. And it looks good? It looks great. You have to probably have some good bandwidth. Yeah, you're going to have some good bandwidth. Good bandwidth is a, a must.

Jason Atwood: Alright, so watch ESPN for the iPad. Very nice. free except we need $130 cable. Oh, you need your cable. There's a lot of articles about HBO, and I use HBO Go. Actually, I don't use it on my iPad. I use it on the Roku. And I love it. I mean, just love it. To be able to go in and watch many episodes, many episodes is awesome. But I I will say that it's like, why do I need HBO anymore? Like, Just sign me up. I pay for who? I already pay for something that doesn't even exist. De just think about it opposite.

Justin Edelstein: Just opposite it. Just flip it. No, I don't flip it. Flip it. So don't even think about the fact that you're paying for HBO. Think about the fact that you're paying for HBO Go. And the side effect of paying for HBO Go is that you get HBO. Oh, you'd pay for HBO go the same And the side effect of paying for HBO Go is that you get HBO. All right. HBO has been playing Back to the Futures recently. Oh my God, I love Back to the Future. Last night they had Back to the Future, Back to the Future 2, Back to the Future 3 in row yeah oh man I can sit there and just watch that every day literally every day Sad.

Jason Atwood: That is whatviation. I love those movies. Yeah, I don't know if those are really my... I love them. Yeah, that's not really my Alright, what's yours? Alright, well mine is actually... I'm actually looking at it now as we speak, trying to get it ready. Mine is an app that I saw... I think I didn't pick this, but I a why I would buy something. the two requirements for buying... And... Under $2? 99 cents. 99 cents universal. I'm going to buy it and the I'm going to try it. Buy it and try it. So I'm picking agenda by a company called App Savvy and what it is is a, well I do love love love love the calendar on the iPad and iPhone. There are some different views and stuff that it just doesn't do very well.

Jason Atwood: And so, this one is a full on new calendar for your iPad and iPhone. So it's universal, so 99 cents gets you both versions. What's nice about it, it reads in all your calendars. So, you don't, there's no setting it up, there's no whatever, it gets everything. Where's it getting data from?

39:10 Justin Edelstein: It gets it from your calendars. So you have to like have your calendars. You already heard you're using your calendar and then this is like another layer on top of your calendar

Jason Atwood: Yeah, it is another layer on top But well, it's your using your calendar your I Calc but it connects to your calendars Well,

Justin Edelstein: That's what I mean you but you have to already be using your I Cal

Jason Atwood: Oh yes, if you're not using your calendar, well then you can set this up to do other things I guess. But, so you know it's got some neat features, just different views and different ways of looking at stuff. Okay, looks like we're podcasting right now on your calendar. Yes, we are. There's a couple different things that you can... There's a couple of different things you can do within it. Like you can change things. One of the things I really love is I'm. I'm trying to figure out how to do this. So which one I can do it with. There's a great feature within it to be able to. Ah. So I could go to a, I could go to an event inside my calendar. I'm just for all you at home, you've not seen this.

Jason Atwood: So what's neat is I'm opened up an event. Why don't I open up the podcasting ones? So I don't know how to do this. All right, let's do it. So then I could say, I click on this, I'm looking at it, and what's nice is it has three little buttons. I can do confirm, which will send send out an email to the recipient saying, are we still on for this? I can say here, it will send off an email saying, I'm here, and it could say, I'm going to be late, which I'm going to do now, and say I'm going to be 15 minutes late. And then it'll set up the, set up an email to shoot off. interesting yeah so I mean it's kind of like it's got these little neat features on the what's in the other tab in the other tab well there's

Justin Edelstein: Other there's like other oh just use the message straight up it's not actually filling up the person no interesting it doesn't know who the person is yeah I don't know why it doesn't know who the person is probably because you didn't set the person in your calendar yeah

Jason Atwood: It'd be interesting to see if I could pull up one that was, hold on, let's actually pull up one. No, that's not it. I don't think you have any. Yeah, I was trying to see ones that actually have the thing in it. Anyway, kind of cool. Neat little, neat design. Neat way of flipping through the calendars. I love this. Inside the different day views you can scroll up and down. If you're looking, if you're looking to look, if you looking to look if you b don't really love or want some new features that kind of new features that kind of new features that kind of new features that. ICal on your iPad for 99 cents, it's sort of a nice little feature by app savvy. It is called agenda and is universal and 99 K the universal and 99 cents.

Jason Atwood: So give it a shot. All right. That's it for a week of CloudFocus Weekly. Bye. Go to blog.arcasinc.com and subscribe to the RSS feed there. You can comment on all the blog posts and on all the shows. Follow the company at Arkus Inc. either on Facebook or Twitter. We're also Jason or I'm at Jason and Matt with Justin's here at Just Elstine. We're on Google+, go into Google+, and search for our Arkus that you'll find us, Arkus. And so go subscribe to the podcast in any one of your favorite things like Instacast or in iTunes. If you leave a great review, a fairy gets its wings. Until next week! from CloudFocus Weekly. Jason and Justin here