Turkey Hack Dreams - Episode #161 of CloudFocus Weekly

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00:11 Jason Atwood: This is the 161st episode of CloudFocus Weekly for the first week of December 2013. This episode is titled, Turkey Hack Dreams. CloudFocus Weekly is brought to you by Arkus, specializing in Salesforce implementations, consulting, and force.com development. search for Arkus, A-R-K-U-S on the AppExchange and read what our clients have to say about us. I am your host Jason Atwood and joining me is the co-host Justin Edelstein. How are you doing today? I'm doing just great.

Justin Edelstein: I'm feeling rested. This is our first podcast since Dreamforce. It is. We did two at Dreamforce. We took the week off last week for Thanksgiving. You know, to catch up from Dreamforce and there was a short week. We had some turkey. True. True. So I'm feeling rested, feeling ready to go. Friday afternoon. This is one of my preferred podcasting times. I like it's too late. I like it. I feel like people. Because I feel like the week is kind of over. And now I've just got podcasting to do, which is a fun part of the job. I like Wednesday better.

Jason Atwood: I like Wednesday because then it's like middle of the week and get it out and people can hear it. Because now basically people are left their jobs. These are everlasting, these podcasts.

Justin Edelstein: These are? They go back. They listen. That's true. I think people go back and listen all the way back to episode one.

Jason Atwood: I'm going to do that one now. I'm going to do that one now. I have to listen to that one. I have to listen to that one. I have to listen to that one. I have to listen to that one. the same. Really? I imagine it does not. I think didn't we used to talk in the same mic? Yes. We used to have like one mic. The one that I'm sitting in front of. Yes. And we both talked into it. Alright. Our script stuff. From across the table. Well speaking of talking into things, today we have an agenda. We have two blog posts that have come up since we have done it. We have your Dreamforce 13 recap and we also have the keeping momentum momentum going. or keeping the momentum after Dreamforce 13 blog posts, both up at some point on blog.argosync.com.

Jason Atwood: They're there. I'm literally watching the server reboot as we speak. So it is.

Justin Edelstein: They're there. I promise. It's in the cloud.

Jason Atwood: Our web server is in the cloud. And the cloud is raining. So by the time you listen to this, I will have you there spent all night getting it back up and running.n't. I'm literally on chat with Rackspace as we sit. watching my server reboot. All right, so let's kick into it. Why don't you talk a little bit about your blog. Yeah, my blog. If you can remember it. It was a while ago.

Justin Edelstein: Well, I have it in front of me. Still in docs. I can read it. It's my recap of Dreamforce 13, which I'm proud to say, you know that thing in the Salesforce success community that someone writes up the goodies. Yes, the goodies. So this. blog post made the goodies. Yes, which I was very happy and proud about.

03:17 Jason Atwood: I think retweeted or repushed the goodies a few times. I might have shared it a few times. Liked it, posted on it, commented on it. The success community is really getting there. It's becoming a real... like they have... how many is it? Like 900,000 people?

Justin Edelstein: Over 900,000. Who's going to be the millionth is the question. I don't know. Will they win a million dollars? Probably not. Will that hackathon? Maybe they'll share a million dollars. So yeah, I wrote a little recap, you know, the highlights Salesforce one, obviously the opening keynote. you know, I, I made the whole back to the future, theme with Yui Lewis and, Parker coming out as doc Emmett Brown and doing his thing. And, I kind of likened it to going way back, going way back into the, you know, the fifties and thinking about like a retail store that you walk in and your community and they know your name. It's like, cheers. Everyone knows your name. And you walk in. Everybody knows your name. Right. Like that. And. And then getting away from that as businesses grew bigger and big box retail stores and not really everything's a chain and nobody knows who you are when you walk in the door and you're just an anonymous person who's it's a very much a one-to-many relationship with the company.

Justin Edelstein: The company is just blasting stuff out at their customers and consumers and I think Salesforce is trying to bring us back to the one-to-one communication. using technology, which that's what I really took out of the Kino and the Salesforce One platform announcement was trying to get back to that. The good old days of, of, you know, bringing us back to the future of having that one-to-one communication.

Jason Atwood: It's funny, you No, I got more of that our future is mobile and we are going to go back and take everything. More of the back of the future for me was bringing everything that they've done, all the custom development, the visual force, the page layouts, the record types, Apex, I'm bringing it all to the future in the future being mobile and the future being Salesforce 1. The one-to-one stuff, I think there's a, I mean I know there's a story they tell of Dreamforce. There's a piece to it. I think, I don't know, every time they demo it or something I look at that and they go, So... Yeah, it looks so slick when you demo it. I just don't know anybody's really doing it in that kind of thing. It's so funny that you say that.

Jason Atwood: Because usually we're opposite on that. Come on, that demo of all the 200 points of data for Sony PS4 players, where is that 200 pieces of data coming from? You and I are usually so...

06:22 Justin Edelstein: Diametrically on the opposite side of this scenario where during the keynotes Salesforce has a tendency of really using that safe harbor statement to the fullest and, and really showing you stuff that you may never, ever, ever see ever and creating scenarios of like Could you imagine like really like a guy standing at bus stop that's talking to him or you know, a Google Glass technician needing to walk in somewhere where a technician needing to wear Google Glass and walking in to open up a side panel and have to have a conversation about the fact that something's unplugged like plug it in.

Jason Atwood: You just use 15 million dollars of technology to plug in a plug.

Justin Edelstein: Yeah. So but but usually you and I are I'm usually the pessimist on those things. I'm pessimist on it. I just I'm not pessimist on the I just didn't get that from the keynote.

Jason Atwood: I got I got mobile Salesforce one the one truth the one is the connecting of all the mobile.

Justin Edelstein: I'm not I'm not actually using the one to one to say like that's what Salesforce one is. I'm I'm I'm not making that correlation. I'm just saying. I feel like the message of Dreamforce was that everyone's connected and there are better ways to stay connected in a more personable way to your customers and we're bringing that to you. So here's a little example though.

Jason Atwood: So someone after, when was it? Was it during the, before which session did they get up and they do the question and answer? Are they waiting for Marissa Myers?

Justin Edelstein: Waiting for Marissa, yeah.

Jason Atwood: And they got up and they did a... We waited for a half hour for Marissa. One person got up and said, they were talking about the diamond company, and they're saying, how do you get notified when someone walks into your... The family person walks into your branch in Bogota? I don't know, just made that up. You're making things up. And, oh, and they walk in and you know that they're there. Because one of the things that they said was when you walk into our branch or our stores, we know who you are and we can, you know, and we know that you're there and we can, you know, talk to you as a person. I know how you know who they are because when they walk in, you type in a thing and you look neat.

Jason Atwood: Oh, Mr. Atwood. D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D. But what I think they, what I felt was coming across a little bit was we got beacon technology, we have presence, you've checked in, foursquare, right? We know you before you've walked in. I don't have to look you up in my system. I can go, as you approach the counter, it tells me Jason Atwood has arrived, right? without having to mention anything facial, you know, facial recognition, the technology is there. In fact, in the hackathon, they they showed one of these things where Kyle Rose showed one was showing the stuff. So so then he answered, he said, Well, how do you know the people were there at your thing? And and the answer was that he said, Oh,

Justin Edelstein: They'll send me an email that the person didn't answer that. I feel like he missed that. Because I feel like the answer is someone chatters that they were there. And I feel like he just missed that because he gets the chatter because he gets the chatter in his email Like I feel like that's actually how it happens So it's not automatic so they chatter

09:32 Jason Atwood: That someone walked into the into our thing in and because I feel like in that business It's made it seem like that business is so Like their customers are so prestige, right?

Justin Edelstein: These are like There's like a big diamond dealer that Sean pam walked into the branch in precisely in in Fifth Avenue, right chatter chatter He's here looking for some diamond. Let me look at my inventory and see where it might be kind of situation I'm trying to see the you know Trying to look past how he might have misspoke Because because sending an email is certainly not the right answer That's probably not what Mark Benioff wanted to hear as the answer to that question Now did they make it look like yeah Everything's super automated and someone walks into a store and it just all of a sudden chatter messages go off Yeah, that's not happening.

Jason Atwood: I guess that's sort of the thing. I think it could though. So to me, and again, I think we talked, well, we didn't talk about, we didn't talk about after we went to the last session, right? We haven't had a podcast since.

Justin Edelstein: No, we have not had a, and I think that's like the last part of my recap, which is the Mark and Parker session.

Jason Atwood: So do not go to Dreamforce ever again if you don't go to the session. Yeah, I'm saying that Mark and Parker, but go very late so I can get in early. Do not go at the time. You get there early. So I will never not go to one again. No, I don't care what's going on. It's it's it's probably the best.

Justin Edelstein: An off handed Mark Benioff is one of the best speakers you'll ever see. He's just. Fantastic off the cuff.

Jason Atwood: He's he is and I and I think I mentioned this in the podcast before, but I'm going to make because I've now I'm now coming. I'm doing a loop on this at post Dreamforce loop. So I Came on dream with a lot of books to read. I think I mentioned that you did I didn't okay. Everybody gave me books I bought a bunch of books Amazon made a killing on me over and I and I went into go look at them all the books that I read and I saw. a book that I was like There's a book I've wanted to read for the longest time that I've owned for almost two years or whatever So I started into Steve Jobs and now on chapter 7 or chapter 7 part of my brain is going to process of connecting Steve Jobs early life and his history and how he lives and I and I think that's the thing, you know that a that..

Jason Atwood: And I feel like that really you see I just didn't so so and I say to me Marc Benioff is that He's in embodiment. Like he is, in 20 years, we will talk about Mark Benioff like we talk about Steve now, right? Right now he's in the midst of his career. He's not even 50 years old. the that- so he's, he got another I, Just talk and he is he is brash. He is he drops f-bombs. He's funny. He is funny. He's personable he You can see he both rules with an iron fist but with a sense of fairness And I think when we talk about this next this next topic, you know, it's not a corporation built around He laughed, he laughed, he laughed, he laughed, he laughed, he laughed, When he was at Microsoft, he said, oh, he was like this troll, like, a-ah, so I know, so I, so I And he goes, what?

14:24 Jason Atwood: I the and. millions in.. that,--. we like her didn't like and you know we He he makes us I think makes me believe again in sort of? I like that Salesforce is more than just a software or no software company or cloud computing or? Well, there, there's a quarter down this quirky core. There's a fun core and. And and he is that it will be tough to watch when he leaves and see. If they can maintain it. I agree.

Justin Edelstein: I mean, I've been to some of the I mean they keep changing the name, but was great It was a vet Kundra and and actually Parker who I think I stepped up his game I don't think he said Parker.

Jason Atwood: I thought he said it was I was the other Someone else spoke at the part matter Peter coffee spoke at partner one He says Peter coffee spoke at the partner one and he's a he's a great speaker, right?

Justin Edelstein: He should actually do these these big events else better, you know, not mark. It should be peter coffee in my opinion He's he's really very not mark. I mean not parker I I think it should be peter or well if it can be mark sure If it if it can be mark great More that's great, but he can't be all all places at all times So they're spreading it out now so much that you know, I didn't think vivec And Parker did the greatest job. Although I think maybe now that Parker's been thrown into this a little bit more, he's gotten better because he was He was as good as I've ever seen him on the Dreamforce opening keynote Yeah, I've never seen Parker that good. I thought he liked being I think he

Jason Atwood: He likes being in a in a role.

Justin Edelstein: Well he's usually the straight man to Mark. In this instance he got got to play the opposite. He got to be the funny guy.

Jason Atwood: I thought it was okay. There was a point when I was looking at it, it felt a little bit just... When you think about a corporate keynote for an an opening of a technology...

17:24 Justin Edelstein: Mean it's not exactly what it's a little hokey

Jason Atwood: Brown I've seen Microsoft come out and you know, what's his face I'll bounce around for just bomb around for 10 minutes saying developers no developers. I've seen I've seen stuff like this before where they'll come out. Oh, what's his face came in with Google Glass? Didn't come in didn't he didn't have a guy come down from a come down with Google Glass on wearing it. It came in a parachute and they parachuted in. They were showing it live. I mean, there is a point in which you're trying to make a splash. Again, I thought it was good. I just wish things were splashing. It was just fun. Well, we're just at Sla and coming in at Telsa, I guess. That's, that's flashy. Anyway, let's move on. Let's move right along. Also on blog.arcasynch.com when it comes up.

Jason Atwood: That was just our dream force recap. Well, there's another article, another blog post, by the person who should never be, named but has been named, about keeping the momentum going. Keep it going. And we do this after everyone, because I think one of the things that's tough about us is a big conference like that. is that you get all this stuff in your head and then you come back and you get back to life and then you feel like Oh, how do I implement or how to keep this stuff going? So the the man the myth the legend who shall not be named went over a few of his You know ways to keep the stuff going so that's up.

Justin Edelstein: He's named. I mean, it's in the blog post He also one of his big things was was the personal wellness last day of Dreamforce. He's very into that and He actually took the idea and went to the success community and created a chatter group called Wellforce. So you can actually go in there, click on the collaboration tab and search for the group called, Wellforce, and he's going to keep that personal wellness conversation going in there. you know, throwing inspirational quotes, books to read, all sorts of little personal wellness tips and tricks all throughout the year. He's going to keep it going in there. It's a good place to keep the conversation going, by the way. It is a good place to keep the conversation going.

Jason Atwood: I'm actually looking at a cloud outage as we sit here. It's not just us, it's a whole node is down.

Justin Edelstein: Oh, that makes me feel better actually. Makes me feel a little better, but they're on it. They're on it. They're on it. Their support is excellent.

Jason Atwood: Yeah, their support is excellent. Everybody should take a... I did get to talk to a high up person at Dreamforce who I will not name. who we talked about some of their challenges at Salesforce. And they said support is something that we definitely know is we have to get better. And he did give me some insight into where they were putting their time and it's a lot of just bringing it back in-house. It's a lot of getting away from these. Outsource places that you literally they can't read English

Justin Edelstein: So you grow so fast as a product you have to support it and you're just growing so fast You just need bodies you feel like you need bodies, but what I need is quality bodies quality bodies is

20:35 Jason Atwood: The name of my new workout tape good good banding. I knew quality body body. So workout tape like an 80s like Evo kind of thing.

Justin Edelstein: Keep me with the quality bodies.

Jason Atwood: So first of all, rank. You have been to six now. I have been to seven. I've done the math. I actually have a spreadsheet now of all the ones that I've been to. Six have I been to? That's your six. Yep. It's my seventh. So it's got to be your six. There's no way. That's right. It is six. I just kind of... There's no way. I know it is because I'm six. Unless I skip a year, I'm always going to be ahead by one. You're always going to be ahead. That was my seventh. Rank that one.

Justin Edelstein: What do you think? Rank it? In terms of from 1 to 7? Yeah, from 1 to 6, I should say. Like,

Jason Atwood: Just give me a feeling where to rank from all of them. Top 2. Top 2. So it was your second favorite Dreamforce. Yeah,

Justin Edelstein: My favorite Dreamforce of all time will forever and always be my first Dreamforce. But since my first Dreamforce, this was really good. Yeah. I had a lot going for him this year. It was really very well done when you think about how big it was.

Jason Atwood: Please make us more. It doesn't feel any bigger than last year at all. It didn't feel any bigger.

Justin Edelstein: 30,000 people. I didn't feel 30,000 people. Yeah, I mean they did a nice job with it. I still can't say that anything this big will ever be better than my first one. My first one there were only like 7,000 people. I can tell you exactly how much there were. Much better. To me, it was only in Moscone North and South, not even West yet. So at that time, I thought it was just a much more consolidated feel. The breakout sessions were a lot more meaningful because there were less of them. There's just so many now. You don't even know which ones to go to. and I find it hard to actually plan. Those Foo Fighters right? I went to Foo Fighters. Yes, that's correct.

Jason Atwood: I have that's hard to remember No, I have a spreadsheet now with all with all the years and everything in it because we know what we reference it So often I'm like I need to reference it by

Justin Edelstein: The band This was the first Dreamforce that I've gone to I did not go to the global gala Consist is the first one that I did wait. No, I didn't find any of them. You've never gone to the concert so For me, it's number one.

Jason Atwood: Isn't your number one Dreamforce? It's a little bit tacky to say Salesforce won, my Dreamforce won. It was though. And it's not just the Dreamforce conference. It's also me and my position at Arkus and my going. I think I spoke, but I spoke at the right time and it was the right session. I was excited to do it. You know the events that we held as Arquists I thought were great. The way the conference ruled out, I felt like, was the best for me personally and the way I felt about, again, my position as a member of the community, for my seventh Dreamforce, I felt the best about. It was a reunion for me. It was walking around, and I had a great time. From everything from seeing people who I haven't seen in two years to people who I saw last month, and it was really the best one.

24:18 Jason Atwood: Salesforce 1, Dream blog post though. I also mentioned the controversy as well. And the controversy was that at the end there were two... They gave a million dollars away. Well, first of all, it's back up. In typical Benioff fashion, the third place prize, the fourth place prize, or whatever it was, it was $5,000. There were top five. It was five, ten, or five, fifteen, twenty-five, a million? It was fifty. There was a fifteen there. fashion as he opens them up. He's like, how about we give instead of 5,000 for the team, how about 5,000 each person? So he did that going up. And the joke is, we joked that at the end, at the last person, he's going to do that for the first, for the top two teams, or the teams that win, like the guy who gets a million dollars, are they going to give 2 million dollars, 1 to each team member?

Jason Atwood: Well, the joke is they gave it to one group, there was, they had shown that app before, It became a controversy. It didn't really break, but what I think in a great, again, great PR, they come and they say, okay, we give the top two teams a million dollars. So they actually gave her a very, they strongly said they did not cheat.

Justin Edelstein: Right. But we get it. We're listening. We're hearing you and we are going to declare the top two teams co-winners. And both teams will get a million dollars. That is correct. And by the way, those two apps, the top, all of them, the top, all the top five were really great. But those top two, I think we sat there and said those are the top two. Yes.

Jason Atwood: One just had a really behind it that was really just amazing. But you know, I think next year, they need to be more clear. We even didn't understand like where the rules that you had to write it just sitting there in that room for three days. or was the rules was that? We didn was the rules because we didn't know the rules. They weren't there explaining the rules to you as they were announcing winners. They did tell you how it was done. They showed you the time lapse video so it felt like it had to be done there. That wasn't the rules though. With the new APIs, which was the rules. The rules was you have to build something with the new set of APIs that we just released. So if we had walked in and said we're going to take the permissioner.

Jason Atwood: And make the permission or mobile by the way it's coming. And and did that over those two days. Right. Then we could have been in. Very deserving.

Justin Edelstein: Yes. One was I mean you can read about it, but one was was called up shot that was the one that one originally one one and had one amazing User experiences I've ever seen for building a salesforce report, and it was done on a phone It was just the easiest way I've ever seen to build a report using natural language just talk into the phone and say closed opportunities and it built a nice report with a with a Graph for you pretty cool, right? The other one was called healthcare.love which was a take on a little spin on gov and did basically what healthcare.gov with probably not really actually working more vapor than anything, but it was really good. Yeah, it's more of how we could have made this a very easy system to do healthcare.gov issue.

27:37 Jason Atwood: And I want to get into political thing has absolutely nothing to do about the front end. Yeah, there are 55 different systems behind it, that it's talking to, right? And that's where the that's where it's failing. You know, it's failing by by scaling to 55 different systems. and all you need is one system not to work. And as someone, you know, again, I used to work in systems where we were handling that kind of scale. You need a lot to go on.

Justin Edelstein: So I thought it was it was the really nice UI. It was it was a brilliant UI. Right. Look great. But I feel like you could look right on an iPad.

Jason Atwood: It didn't look like anything. It didn't look like. It didn't look like Salesforce. It wasn't Salesforce to me. No, it didn't look like Salesforce at all. But I think that was the point. But couldn't I have just done that in Squarespace and called it healthcare.gov? Sure, probably. Love and said I did it here too. Probably. I mean they were... No, I'm saying like it didn't... The other one was saying a Salesforce technology.

Justin Edelstein: Salesforce technology. But I think the point was... Here's a platform. You don't have to just use our platform to build it Don't don't have to tie into a salesforce application Use a salesforce platform. I guess platform did healthcare.love use

Jason Atwood: Don't know You really don't could have been a road to I assume that they checked it out. But anyway but Funny enough Then it comes out that That Benioff had offered to help out the White House for free To fix health there.gov and they were well not not fix it like host it like no It's ours cloud computing guru Mark maniff offered to fix healthcare gov

Justin Edelstein: For free and the White House said no and run it Yeah, meaning he wanted to run it on Salesforce around force.com or on force one or whatever you want to call it. As it turns out, he still did. I think he did assign a couple of employees to go help. Oh, really? With the situation. I don't know how that's going to work out if it's not built on force.com, but whatever.

Jason Atwood: It's funny that I've tweeted this out and then someone tweeted back at me because here's the sentence. It says, Benioff is considered one of the followers of cloud computing. The site he founded, salesforce.com, is a website that helps large companies interact with their business insider dot com. What are the differences between a site and something that's just not a site? You have a site. Business Insider dot com is a site. Salesforce dot com is not a site. It's no more a site than... Well, Salesforce dot com is a website.

Justin Edelstein: It's not a site. Well, it is a website. If you go to www.salesforce.com, you will land on a website that describes a product. It's a site that we founded.

Jason Atwood: Facebook, it's a site. ARKASINK.com, that website that we founded. That website we did not found. We're watching it maybe slowly come up. It's still rebooting. All right. The node is still down. It'll get there eventually. It's not us. Maybe by the time this podcast is over. Which is good. It's good that it's not us. Maybe. Well, you can listen to the podcast anyway because you should subscribe to iTunes. We don't host this on our server. We hosted a cash fly. This podcast not brought to you by cash fly. No. Hahahaha All right, and then lastly, let's leave this for next week. All right, let's leave that. You wanna get to our picks? Let's get to our picks. I got a cool pick.

30:58 Justin Edelstein: It can't be any cooler than mine. This is pretty cool. All right, well maybe it's cooler. So I'm in a taxi the other day. Okay. On Tuesday. On a taxi. And I'm on my way home. Okay. And on the screen, you know in New York City, we've got every taxi's the same. You know. That's all for today. Have a great week. It makes you realize when you go to other cities, like not everyone's got this great like taxi system that we have here. All the cabs are the same and it's nice. In San Francisco, it's kind of all over the place. Well, we got these screens in the back, right? And they're playing entertaining things and whatever. And you can pay with the credit card on the screen. And all of a sudden, I see this little ad.

Justin Edelstein: Because the company that runs those screens is called Verifone. Yes it is. Now Verifone has an app called Way to Ride. Instead of paying with your credit card you just you go into the app on your phone you say I'm in a cab Yes, you then hold up your phone to the screens Speaker it then recognizes you're in And then when you get out of the cab you've paid you put in your credit, it stores your credit card, you store, your default tip amount. Zero, sorry not to. And then, as soon as the cab turns the meter off, boom, paid. It just shows up on the screen, paying via way to ride. Because you basically are checking into the cab. It is by far the easiest way to pay for a cab. It is they have a button on there for I need a cab that they're that they're integrating.

Justin Edelstein: Oh, that's great for a hailing service. That's great. So this in New York City, at least I don't know where else this is really working. It also has a built in. a wallet, so it has your credit cards in there. And it has a history. So you can go in there and see every cab you took, every cab that you've, every ride that you've taken. Meaning you can all the, your ride details, you can see a receipt, you can say I lost something in the cab. This is a fantastic application. I used it on my iPhone. It is free from Verifone. It is called Way to Ride. I highly recommend it for anyone in New York City. I'm literally halfway through setting it up right now. Yeah, it's so good. You're going to need, by the way, it's really easy to set up.

Justin Edelstein: You take a picture of your credit card, and OCR is the credit card number and everything for you. So as long as you have your credit card in front of you, you could take a picture the of it. Yeah, I'm going to leave it right there. And it sets it all up for you.

Jason Atwood: It's really cool. Awesome. Way too ride free by Verifone. Free, it's great. If you're a New Yorker, this is unbelievable. What a great way to.. pay for a cab. I wonder if it's every cab,

33:59 Justin Edelstein: It's Verifone enabled cabs, which is pretty much all. I think it's all of them. All right, cool. Very cool. All the yellow ones, at least there's these green ones now floating around, but my app is not even half as cool as that. Yeah, you thought you had the I have. I thought I did.

Jason Atwood: Oh, oh, oh, wait, to ride. Just way too shut down my phone. That didn't do that to me. So my app while my phone, this is not a good technological day for me. My phone just crashed. Yeah, you're on the website. Tack fail. Ooh, but you know what? It's nice to have a quick phone because it booted right back up again. My app is called What's Busy. And you're like, oh, there's a million of these What's Busy. But you know what the thing, when you travel, and this is for everybody who's traveling over the holidays. is. I was going to and do this as a post-Dreamforce one, like, oh, if you're coming back from Dreamforce. So it's very simple. It's a free app. You go in, you type in, it says, what airport do you need to know information about?

Jason Atwood: You type in JFK or LGA or NWE, right? and you get back Security wait time.

Justin Edelstein: Ooh, I see. I'm you're showing it to me like reds, yellows, greens.

Jason Atwood: Yes. And all the different gates and so I'm looking at JFK. Yes.

Justin Edelstein: And then the security wait time at different terminals for different gates and for different time and different times. So at this time, it's going to be this busy 21 minutes or over. And at this time it's 10, 11 to 20 minutes at this time, it's zero to 10 minutes. This is good. It tells you when to get to the airport. It tells you when to get, or what gates to avoid, or what places to not go. Or if you're going to go to the airport, like don't think you can just get there a half hour before. That's right.

Jason Atwood: So like right now, where terminal, in JFK terminal one, gates one through 10, it's at a 21 minute wait. But if you go to terminal two, the gate is three. Or terminal five, it's. So, that's it for this video. Literally six minutes to get to the this is to get to the security the security security checkpoint So cool So it's really giving you if you're going so when you're your your terminal and your gates you can go Oh, we better get a little bit earlier because we're gonna run into it So this this is gonna make my list for next year for travel apps because I love this type of stuff All right. Well that wraps it up for Today and us, follow Justin at justedlestein, follow me at jasonmatwood, follow Arkus at arcusinc on the Twitter, facebook.com slash arcusinc.

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37:05 Justin Edelstein: Next week we will be back. I don't know how many more we got for the rest of the