Apple Announcements - Episode #190 of CloudFocus Weekly

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00:09 Jason Atwood: This is the 190th episode of CloudFocus Weekly! I don't know. CloudFocus Weekly is brought to you by Arkus. at all these bobbing and weaving back here. We're both in a Friday afternoon kind of mood. Justin Edelstein. Justin, how, how are you doing Friday afternoon coma?

Justin Edelstein: I got two things to say. One, you leave nothing to chance with the title of this podcast. I wonder what they'll be talking about on the Apple announcements podcast.

Jason Atwood: You know what's funny? I as I was doing, I'm like, this is the lamest. It's like usually spring 11 as your app pick it is a little bit. It's my lamest title ever. 190 titles.A hundred ninety- not even 190. 190 plus. Here's all I have to say about episode number 190. Yeah?

Justin Edelstein: It's the best episode yet. All other- we've taken all other episodes. Oh, and we made this one even better. The last episode was the- best episode we ever did. when we give you one ninety one of them one ninety will be nothing worst episode ever all right well obviously we're everything sounds better

Jason Atwood: Johnny I voice Johnny I voice it's our new hashtag JB I'm so we this week we apple this announcements they is pretty big this other news going on will do that on next time everyone who listens knows for apple

Justin Edelstein: Fanboys and whenever they do a thing we're gonna be all over it and we're gonna leave Salesforce behind for a week Would a fanboy have a cut out

Jason Atwood: Of an iPhone 6 plus and on six on paper on paper? Well cut out in my hands that I know on the streets making fake vocals on

Justin Edelstein: People who don't know you well and only know you through the podcast we know that it would take a very Serious and monumental thing for you to print something. That's true you print maybe six pieces of paper every year, if I could keep it under there I would so for you to print that thing just to see which iPhone you wanted to buy is pretty crazy this tree died for a good reason that tree died so you could decide which two or three or four hundred dollar device you wanted to buy Terrible.

Jason Atwood: All right, so we're not going to discuss the blog post of the week because it is about winter fifth of the week. It's the best one ever. And we will have it next week. We'll have double blog posts next week. We'll talk about both. We'll get back to more of a winter. 15 but with all the Apple announcements we figure we just dive into the Apple stuff. Let's do a little dream. For stuff before and then we'll just get right into the Apple world. So we have confirmed. Can we talk about our times yet? We talk about the. The what? The. The what? The studio? Oh yeah yeah we can. Yeah so I think we can talk about it. We talked about it last week. Yeah but I think we, yeah. So anyway there will be at Dreamforce in the admin zone?

03:40 Jason Atwood: Correct.

Justin Edelstein: In the corner. Which is in Muscone West yes? Yes.

Jason Atwood: No it's in the... I thought it was Muscone West. I thought it was in the Hilton.

Justin Edelstein: Oh man I'm so confused. Oh no it's in the, no you're right. It's in the Muscone West. right. I am right. So like we're that'll be great. We're in like prime spot.

Jason Atwood: Anyway, so we're over in Moscone West. We're going to do one hour live podcast, right? We actually have the schedule studio soon. I guess we have a schedule with an on air sign with an on air sign. So cool. You're gonna be able to sit and listen to like in live us talk. It's gonna be a little strange Why you'd want to but hey go for then you

Justin Edelstein: Know, you want to spend wait wait If you come and listen to us you better download anyway If you come and listen you have to download and I might throw things at

Jason Atwood: You Yes, well things that they can keep and they'll be soft so they won't hurt So just as a as a reminder if you want to find Arkus at a company us, where we might be hanging out at the booth, you can always come to N103-2, which is a North Hall booth 1032. If you want to register for under $45,000 off that, you use the code with EC14 Arkus and then you can register to get a hundred bucks off. Again, we're gonna do a product at Dream product at Dreamforest brand new expressly which we will will premiere will be will be at Dreamforce like we won't even have to find it like you won't we'll talk about it on the air like what it is

Justin Edelstein: But you won't be able to to like touch it. It is right now being in installed in other orgs it's so exciting Yes, it's in the beta package is Available nice nice it has a an install link and everything awesome That's being worked on that's all

Jason Atwood: The dream force news Let's get talking about Apple announcements so on Monday in true Apple fashion They dominated they set up they created they announced the iMac from The Mac and the Mac from same stage and they did the Apple base. I think this is almost coming like a September thing. This is something they do every year. is why this is not as throwing. Oh we kind of know their pattern right. It is the. You announce the software and you do the hardware in the fall. And then.

Justin Edelstein: Like winter time there's another hardware now that'll be the ipads guarantee you know laptops and they'll be greater than ever while the best laptops ever so the steel that we've molded this out of is from another planet we built

Jason Atwood: A time machine we went back and got steel we went.

Justin Edelstein: And got the greatest steal ever. So we went into Game of Thrones and got Valerian steel.

Jason Atwood: That would be a nice phone. So there's a bunch of announcements. We're going to go over some of them, talk about what we're excited about, what we're not. They started off with really probably the least interesting of the announcements because it is like clockwork, ha, ha, ha, which is the iPhone, the new iPhone. This was, I think, the worst set of leaks I've ever seen. I mean... It was everywhere. It a Pro plus plus I have pro in here. It's plus I'm gonna be out there two new sizes, right? one's big one's bigger big and bigger and A lot of new features in them I mean there's a lot about the camera does this and the I mean they do hype up a lot it's a new shell so it's curved a little more curved skinnier But really the big thing is the size is the first time Almost since ever they've kind of gone up a bigger size all the Samsung's everything's getting bigger We're getting into what you know the terminology is fablets fablets fablets me a fablet.

07:50 Jason Atwood: So there are two now Which my immediate thought I think this has been on the news around is this very un-steve like like this is Tim Cook's first first sort of he's taken over the reins because Steve Jobs doesn't release to things of different sizes. He, his theory was, I know what right for you. And I'm gonna give you the size you need. And that's the, you're gonna get. So it's interesting to see Apple kind of go, choose, because they don't generally do that. It's like, here's your thing, take it. And this is By the way, I feel about the iPad.

Justin Edelstein: I mean. I love the iPad Mini. It is probably my favorite device. Do you feel like they're the same thing or do you feel like they are two distinct distinctly different product lines? Like you would have both. I know you have both. Oh you wouldn't have both of these. I don't have. I don't have the iPad Air. You don't have the iPad Air. No. So that was another one where they gave choice. Yeah, but when was that last year? Last year, yeah. I think it's... Or two years ago, whenever the mini... No,

Jason Atwood: They did the mini, then I did the iPad Air. Because that was the mini refresh, was when the iPad Air came out. Anyway, so six, six plus, what are your first reactions? What are your first sort of... What do you think? You watched the video, we actually watched it. I watched the keynote. Read some articles. Read a couple of articles.

Justin Edelstein: As always, I get this phone every year like clockwork. Hey, he every time every time he he he. So it doesn't to me now is just like which one I was happy to see. OK, there's still the 16 gig. That's never going to work for me ever again, because they're getting, they're getting too big and now with. just the size of photos because the camera is better, the size of videos, the HD video. I mean, this thing is true like 1080p, the plus.

Jason Atwood: And really, and I think it's a lot to do with the screens because the screens are so much, they're high res. So that means every icon, every picture, every background ahs to be high res which means that everything just kind of expands. And every game has,

Justin Edelstein: It's just insanity. It is insanity. and then everything just sits there in your messages and your email and whatnot. Although I guess email, they don't have it all sitting there. But anyway, I was really excited about, I mean, it's hard to talk about the phone, the hardware, without some of the other big stuff that they announced at the same time. We'll talk about that, it's like we eat up with the screen sizes. Yeah, I mean, you and I have different, we're gonna go for different choices. I think we are. I'm gonna go for the plus, I'm gonna go for the plus size model. you Yes, and you are gonna go for the the the skinny girl

Jason Atwood: I just because I sit here with my two little printouts because that's the only way I could figure out Well, we had my friend come down last night. Yeah, and hand me his galaxy galaxy.

Justin Edelstein: Yes We don't know what those which is

Jason Atwood: Bigger bigger than the iPhone 6 but smaller than the iPhone 6 plus correct and I remember holding it thinking this is big I think it came down.

10:58 Justin Edelstein: I don't know. Well, tell me why you want the plus I want the bigger screen. Okay, and I do carry around. There's there are a lot of times where I'm carrying my phone and my iPad Mini. Right at the same time, and I feel like this will actually cut down on the amount of times I carry my mini around.

Jason Atwood: So you think this, if you're carrying your iPhone mini and your phone, you think that iPhone 6 Plus replaces the mini? It's not gonna replace my iPad mini because I

Justin Edelstein: Love me my iPad mini, but it's gonna replace it when I am like walking around out and about at Dreamforce. I might not bring my iPad mini to. to, I'll bring it to San Francisco, but I may not bring it with me to the show. Where I normally would not even think about it. It'd be like, I'm bringing my phone and I'm bringing my iPad. But with this, I've got a little bit more screen real estate to do things with.

Jason Atwood: What is it that you think, this is what I wanna get in. So what is it you? You think you're gonna be doing on your iPhone 6 Plus that you were doing on your mini, but now it's so much better to do on your iPhone 6 Plus.

Justin Edelstein: This is a bigger screen because I think that's that's the scratch Well an iPad and an iPhone are they're pretty close and they do a lot of the same stuff Yeah, run the same operating system ones just bigger

Jason Atwood: Yes, so this isn't big enough to be It's not big enough to take on a plane and watch videos on. No, which is why I'm bringing on it, which is why I'm bringing my iPad with me.

Justin Edelstein: I'm just not going to bring it to the show. I'm not going to bring it with me to the conference itself,

Jason Atwood: Especially on the first day. I'll see if I'm missing. So that's what I'm sort of asking is like, what do you. think that you're doing in. Well tell you bring it with you to the conference. Why I have both on me? A, they're two different devices and they actually act as backups to each other. This day and age of phones and whatever. Like I like having a device that if this device goes down, doesn't have battery power, whatever. I find the phone and I think I'm not even convincing myself more. The phone is like calls, quick messages. It's like the device that I'm- I'm just doing little bits of stuff. Then when I want to do more stuff, I wouldn't do it on this. Because this isn't big enough to do the more stuff.

Jason Atwood: I then go to a bigger device where I can do more stuff. Maybe I can do a little bit more writing. I can read better. I can do that stuff. I can maybe do a bigger longer longer. But then that point, this little thing, as we've discussed before, becomes, I'm pointing the iPad Mini next to me, becomes, oh well, that's not good enough, so I need to go to this, which is the ultimate machine. This is the laptop in front of me. And this is where I can do everything. And then the next step up, which is I'm on a laptop. app. I'd rather sit in front of a big screen, a 27-inch screen with a full keyboard and mouse, and that's like, now I'm at full capacity. So to me it's just levels of work or levels of things I can do, and I guess the thing about the phone is I now use my phone for the health and all that tracking stuff, so I have my phone on me to do that.

14:14 Jason Atwood: And so the bigger the phone gets, the more I don't want to have it on me because it sticks out of the pockets, it's bigger, it's whatever. I almost wish they did an iPhone 5s with all the stuff in it, but just the same size. Like that's what I'm, I guess that's my issues. I'm looking at my phone and I don't have any problems with the size of the screen because I never look at it like, oh I can't wait to, I wish I can't have more if I could do something else because I don't do anything on this that that needs a big screen. Well you've got it.

Justin Edelstein: A lot of folders there, a lot of games. I don't do any of this stuff. So why do you have it on there?

Jason Atwood: I just, I don't need to. You could only do any of it. Why do you even have it? Because the things I do on my phone, I check whether I put stuff in OmniFocus, I quickly go through email, I basically flag or do quick answers, I do little bits of message, I do phone and I have some apps like Salesforce One and Authenticator and Instacast, but I run with this. And so that's one of my things is like,

Justin Edelstein: But be able to talk about in I guess two weeks maybe.

Jason Atwood: Then we'll compare it to the contrast. But would you have considered if they made this molded whatever small screen lighted 5S? If they did it like this called the 5T. Yeah. So it had everything that's in the 5, the 6. Because the reason I wouldn't even stay with this is because I want all this next stuff we're about to talk about. Yeah. But like that, that to me is, I'm excited about the technology that's in the phone.

Justin Edelstein: The screen is not the thing that I'm looking for. That's why I said I think it's... It's hard to talk about like why I'm excited about the iPhone 6 without talking about the next stuff.

Jason Atwood: All right, but like speed like if you give me the exact same this is why I bought this one because I think wasn't it from the 5 to this was speed in the M7 chip.

Justin Edelstein: Better chips. Right. I want speed. And the touch ID.

Jason Atwood: Oh and touch ID. Right. I want that. But screen has never been something I've looked at this phone and I vote. And again, I'm a different person because I have this iPad mini over here that I love and use constantly. So I never look at it like if I want to, if I'm going to play a game of Madden, I go to the iPad mini. If I'm going to check my fantasy scores, I go to my iPad mini. I'm going to go like whatever. So I think if you, and this is one of, read one of the articles they were saying, if you don't have an iPad mini, this is, this is a tweener device. Now you're like, you got a tweener. Yeah,

Justin Edelstein: I'm going to go with the tweener. Yeah. And... I'm thinking back to my days of longer commuting when I Alright, so let's talk about the other stuff that's in here. It's not like I'm on there for a seven hours. Like a plane, yeah, I'm bringing the iPad Mini, because the iPad Mini rocks with battery. Oh yeah. It's great. I've flown nine hour flights and used the thing the whole way, and it's like, wow, this Like when I get

17:31 Jason Atwood: On a plane, I turn off my phone, completely turn it off, shut it down, whatever, because I don't need it. So then it doesn't have to use battery while I'm on the plane.

Justin Edelstein: Apple still hasn't allowed is they still have not allowed me to install WhatsApp on my on my iPad.

Jason Atwood: Is that a Apple or WhatsApp?

Justin Edelstein: It's Apple. Just don't please not in the store on the iPad.

Jason Atwood: I can't get it. On to oh you can't even download it right in any way shape or forget like universal app or what it doesn't

Justin Edelstein: It does not exist and you've tried the of course. I've tried everything. Well, you can't get it on there I'm sure someone has. If someone has figured out how to get WhatsApp onto the iPad, can you please let me know?

Jason Atwood: So even when you search, and then you search for iPhone apps? Can't get to it. Huh, it's weird. But I wonder if that's them doing a, there's a checkbox on the developer thing that says make this available. There is no way WhatsApp's that stupid. That's true. alright, So let's talk about the cool like stuff. And again, I don't think the photo stuff is amazing me anymore.

Justin Edelstein: I've seen my, I've seen my wife done, she's done some pretty cool ones, but she's got an eye for that kind of thing.

Jason Atwood: And I have, so the big thing is really Apple Pay. Yes. Which going back to our conversation about coin, the first thing I'm watching this, a chronic credit card that can have all your cards in it. And it's, they got delayed and they went into beta and we're both in the beta. Although we haven't gotten the device yet.

Justin Edelstein: And I'm almost thinking we will never get the device. Yeah, just give me a refund. I don't know if you're gonna do that. And just hand your dollars. I think they're gonna literally just be like, sorry. Sorry, you paid us for nothing. No. That's not cool at all. I've seen it happen. That is not cool. That's called going out of business. That's terrible. Oh yeah. So Apple Pay, we were watching this video. They should just ship me one that doesn't work just so I can have it.

Jason Atwood: Well, that's what they did with Stormfly, that thing I bought for my daughter. They shipped you one, it doesn't work. And they said, we can't replace it, it doesn't work. We're not gonna support it. Okay.

Justin Edelstein: Sorry, I wouldn't mind that I'd be like I have this thing that never works nailed to the wall Yeah, that hundred the build to the wall, right?

Jason Atwood: Yeah, it's fine Collector item so let's have what Apple pay a so pay is we you've been a huge you're a huge fan of you know All the chopped apps all the apps you can do the scanning all that This basically seems to me like it's taking the best of all those worlds now the best why not it's missing something Oh, well, let's talk about what does and you tell us missing so It is on your device, it has to be iPhone 6 or 6 Plus. It is NFC, which is a very standard communication protocol. It's based under Touch ID, so it's secure. They built it into a secure chip inside of it. You're to putting in the credit card, you take a shot of it, it goes in, they connect. Nothing bad about that.

20:38 Jason Atwood: Nothing new about that. You've done next to the thing it says you want to pay with this you say yes and you touch idea it says okay what I think is so cool is that it's very and again I think this is where unsus very good. Here's what we do well and here's we don't do well Everything is secure and nothing is shared. The merchant gets money, but nothing else about you. Right? They don't, they literally send them a secure payment ID that they generate a one-time thing. Apple doesn't know who you purchased from or what you did or anything else. So no information about that. So it's like, it's both doing this very secure thing, but also keeping it very private. Which again, in this world of physical cards where you hand your, I mean, I've had, my card gets hacked every year.

Jason Atwood: Like I really, oh yeah, one of my cards every year.

Justin Edelstein: That's terrible. I've never had my, I've never- unus shady place and you stick You're hard into the ATM or something. I mean, I know this doesn't really solve for that, but... Well, that's what I'm kind of interested in.

Jason Atwood: So how do I get cash out of this thing? How do I get cash out of... I want to step up to an ATM. Go... Bink! And then out comes money. Yeah.

Justin Edelstein: Anyway, so it does a lot of stuff. I just want to... Give me money button. But, you know... The money button. I think the thing is... If I could do this and trust it well enough, again, it's really up the merchant are thing because we saw the ability for an app. to buy now using Apple Pay. So like even the open table one was the coolest example. I mean, there were, there were some really cool examples and I think open table was great, right? You, you go to that open table app on your phone, you book a reservation for two for dinner and when you're done, you just pay with.

24:25 Jason Atwood: The the that,, So can you make loyalty and So it comes up as that and then you Apple pay that you get the reward. Your credit card's in there. I don't wanna have a credit card. Way too ride.

Justin Edelstein: Hey, that's gonna be great when the taxis start to take it. Fantastic.

Jason Atwood: Yeah. The world is very cool with Apple Pay, and I'm excited to, again, I want the day where I don't, where my wallet is, very thin. Like, literally, it just has. My wallet's just a card holder. Right. Well, it's just a card holder, so then you don't need it. It's a good idea. That is my wallet. Well, and cash.

Justin Edelstein: There's no cash. You have no cash before.

Jason Atwood: And MetroCard. There's another one I want. MetroCard, right. Swipey ding, swipey swipe for.

Justin Edelstein: So anyway, pretty cool. So the Apple retail store is also going to be accepting. Of course. Yeah. And in the Apple retail store. Coming in 2015.

Jason Atwood: You'll be able to purchase a little wristy watch. Ritch, I was going to say it's now time to talk about the next announcement. I was going into it. Did you like that? No, it was a pretty good job. It was too much of a layup. It was just too easy. And you have to go into the Apple store. You should have run out of time reference. But anyway, so the next big announcement was the one more thing that took a good hour and a half to demo. It was an hour. They spent. an hour on it which... I have now seen you go from wanting it badly to saying you're not gonna buy it to now wanting it badly

Justin Edelstein: And I'm sure now it's been an half an hour. I'm so waffling on it.

Jason Atwood: It's alright Which is the Apple watch which has been long long rumored. I mean, this has been rumored forever starting back in the days when you know the pebble and All these sort of devices taking over the wristwatch, you know from from the fit bits the fuel bands Wasn't there that one that just took? a shuffle and just dropped it into a thing. I had that. That was one of the first Kickstarter projects that actually went over a million dollars or something then it sort of made the watch. So I had that and it was okay. And I had the pebble and it was okay. I think as I rewatch the video, we'll watch the video with you about it, there's this watch aspect to it, which I'm... I'm lukewarm on. I have watches. It tells time.

Jason Atwood: I have great precision. I happen to like watches and I happen to wear nice watches. So part of the watch side is less important to me, but then, then, when they go into the fitness stuff, and this is how I made my argument to you and why you probably end up buying it, is I said, if this is just a fitness device that tracks all this stuff and keeps it and syncs it with my phone and does all that. I'm in. It's if it's just an Apple branded fitness device. Fuck. Forget watch.

27:40 Justin Edelstein: It's an Apple branded. You got me with that one because the fitness, as you said, you're like, yeah, I could put stuff in a box and put an apple on it and be 300 bucks.

Jason Atwood: And I'm a buy it. No, I said it's a I said if it's a 350 dollar Apple fitness thing thing, I'm buying it. No, no doubt.

Justin Edelstein: You do need an iPhone. Yes, cuz some of the marketing materials are a little like I mean they mention it very quickly Yes, you know iPhone you know, but then they're like in the video. It's like with this one device You can track all of these things and some not really mentioning the other device That other device needs to be like in your pocket or strapped to your arm still I mean Thank you. You saw all these people running with the Apple Watch. It's like, well, where the hell is the phone? Where's the phone? Right. It's not strapped to your arm. You're not going to want that in your pocket. It's with the cameraman, of course. John Hybe's got it. It's like, as cool as this thing that's sitting on your watch is your... or sitting on your wrist is, you're still gonna have that other thing strapped to your arm.

Justin Edelstein: Because there's no better place to put it. But because this thing, that's the thing that it needs to connect to everything else. Well fine, I guess why you need it. I'm just saying it's like with this one device No with this one device and this other thing strapped to your arm. You're gonna be able to do all these cool things right fascinating Let me ask your question, okay? What watch you wearing today? I'm wearing my ball Mercier So you're gonna take that watch and not wear that. This isn't my good watch Yeah, this is my second watch and you're gonna take it off and you're gonna wear this thing Well, yes because here's because here's where I am today.

Jason Atwood: So am I this is podcasting for the people So please turn off now. But you downloaded, so thank you for listening. So again, I use this app called Argus. I already made it my pick of the week. so I'm not saying that tracks all my. It tracks all my steps and calories and I take my heartbeat every morning. And that's a new step today.

Justin Edelstein: Only 2600 is really terrible. How many do I have today? I'm at 2647. There you go. We've apparently been together on it. We've been together. We've been doing all that.

Jason Atwood: And I put in like if I go to the gym, I put in basic stuff. And it's kind of a nice little app. It's got a great interface. the It does some nice graphing to show what you're doing. So but the issue with it is I have to have it in my pocket because it's tracking in here. So I don't know.

Justin Edelstein: But you're still gonna need that. Well, I can have my abund all the time.

Jason Atwood: I don't know how close it needs to be.

Justin Edelstein: But you can't. You're gonna walk around with two watches on or all these really nice watches that you've collected Just sit in this thing and collect dust.

Jason Atwood: I don't know Just cuz I want like but you're just not fair cuz I this is what I told you my concern This is this is not fair. I have other things.

Justin Edelstein: All right, so like I could go to a store, a watch store, and I could buy a pretty nice watch for $350. Not a like awesome watch, not the watch you're wearing on your wrist, but I can buy a watch for $350. Yes, you can buy a watch. You can buy a watch for $10. I can get better than a Timex and better than a swatch for $350. I can do all right. I don't think you've shot for a watch recently, but okay. I can do okay for $350 for a watch. It depends what you want. I want a watch that tells time. That works. That's $10.

31:00 Jason Atwood: You can go to you go to a gum machine and get a very nice looking watch for $350. All right, but let's stop here. Watches aren't about nice looking. Really? No, because watches is like an a you're clearly not a watch person. No watch you see a watch on my no watch. Watch things are insane. people about the movement and the design and the did brand. It's it's much more like bags like your wife collects very big into the bag. Stupid bag does the same this $20,000 bag does the same thing that this bag I got for free at the at Arkus booth last year does. One's free, one's $20,000. They both carry stuff. This might actually carry more stuff. It probably does. Same thing with watches. The reason she wants the $20,000 bag.

Jason Atwood: Let's not go into her. Let's keep it safe. I'm saying she has my wife, my wife likes it. But she wants one unless we have one. But the point is, it's about design, designer and name brand and movement and... All this for 350 bucks you can get a watch

Justin Edelstein: That that isn't like you know High-end but isn't low-end either. No, that's low-end in in watch world 350 bucks is not low-end Going to the store and getting no well you were just like well you can get a watch for 10 bucks That's low-end 350 dollars is a lot more than 10 million dollars. I understand okay, so but 350 dollars is not 10 dollars No end the wind on watches I would put it above low end. It's not, not. But it's not a $10 watch. It's not a, it's not a digital Timex thing with indiglow on it.

Jason Atwood: I'm just saying. Okay, fine. Anything under $1,000 is basically low end. Okay, fine. I mean, $1,000 and $5,000 is like medium. Let's take $1,000. Okay, $1,000. $1,000.

Justin Edelstein: So I go into a watch store, I got $1,000 in my hands. This episode of Watches Weekly brought to you by... Well, I can get like a decent watch for $1,000. Okay, so I get a decent watch for a thousand bucks. How long is that watch gonna last me?

Jason Atwood: How long is a decent thousand dollar watch as long as you want to keep it?

Justin Edelstein: Well, like how long is it really gonna last forever? Yeah, because it's so much. How long is this watch gonna last me?

Jason Atwood: This is gonna last you for three years max. Max. Yeah. Max. But you're... didn't you just make it to decide that you buy a new phone every year? Every year. A six to eight hundred dollar phone every year? That's right. Best phone out there. Oh, I don't know. It's not the same thing. How often do you... how many iPads have you gone through? How many computers?

Justin Edelstein: Computers, iPads, what have you. Wait, they don't have a comparison to watch though. Here's my ring.

Jason Atwood: I buy one and I'm keeping... Yeah, it's all the same stuff. Not really. It's the same stuff. You just have to decide is this a technical thing that's part of your technical gear that you then replace every three years or two years or one year? Or is this a momentum that you wear and collect? No. Right. I totally agree. So I have watches that are like meaningful to me and are collect, not collectible, but are like pieces. And then I have technology and I know that technology for me is not something that I look back on like Oh, look at that trio 650 I had.

34:06 Justin Edelstein: Oh, I should wear that to my should save that do you stop? I have I have the other piece about it that I find hard, but if I told you is the $350 Amazing remember I'm not Don't even have a wearable. I've been the guy who said I have no way we're gonna wait for the Apple wear Oh, that's right. I know now. I've got to decide if I'm very waffly I'm concerned about I'm concerned about Waffles I'm concerned. Yes about the life span of the battery Oh yeah, definitely. Because if I'm really using it every day and I'm using it as a fitness device and it's tracking all this stuff for me, because I'm going to want it. Yeah. Look, if I'm wearing it, it's tracking stuff. I want it to track everything. I'm concerned.

Justin Edelstein: I'm not going to make it through the day. At first it will, I know it will, but six months in am I gonna be like, huh? Right. It's like six o'clock in the evening and I'm ready to go for my run and it's like I have to charge my charge my watch I totally know if I go away and I don't remember to bring my Charger that charges nothing else in the universe except for this one production charger So he created the best charger ever that does nothing but charge this watch like induction You know, like I could come on, come on, come on that. That off the table. That concerns me a little. It's like, what if I go on a vacation and I forget that charger and it's like, oh, this is my watch and it's going to last a day and then I can just totally just chuck it in the bag.

Justin Edelstein: But these are these are the things that I totally, I totally agree with you. I carry,

Jason Atwood: So I have, I made one of my picks was a Mio, and you see me wear it, I wear it, oh and I wear it run. It's a heart rate monitor, but it just does it on your wrist. Right. Right. So it doesn't have to get the big strap across your chest that you used to have to wear. and it, and it's, I only wear it running. I don't do anything else with it. And I don't wear it like sitting in the office. but I wear it running, it hooks up to my phone, does all that great stuff. But it needs to be charged. So when I go on a vacation, I think I have to take the thing. It's a specialized thing for just that charger. Amazing. There's also the I mean, there's another device I use that needs a special charger.

Jason Atwood: So when I go, I'm like, I have to oh, Kindle. It needs the, you know, mini USB charger. I need the Apple lightning for the lightning. You need the one that does the I mean,

Justin Edelstein: This is kind of the world for a watch rate. They wanted to make it look good. They didn't want to. throw a little lightning thing on the side of it. I think that's not about looks.

Jason Atwood: I think that's about... I think it was about the look.

Justin Edelstein: Because they could have thrown a little lightning thing. Or a little thing. Like where they wanted to. The thing that you open up and that there's a lightning thing. Anywhere they wanted on that thing. I think it's about the areas to go in.

Jason Atwood: The more areas you have to go into the watch, the more chances to water and whatever. So they're trying to seal it and that's why it's an induction charger. It's not a It doesn't go into it, it doesn't plug in. It's induction. It's just like a magnet. Yes, which is darn cool. Again, I don't look at it as like a timepiece. I look at it as a wearable computer and I'm interested in the wearable computer fitness aspect. I'm very interested.

37:17 Justin Edelstein: I'm totally intrigued. I'm totally wanna know how you get an app onto it. Yeah, I had no conversation about how that worked. Nope. How much memory it has. Yeah. Like how big is life? They said it's it's starts at three forty nine starts at. That means there's bigger ones and, you know, the watch bands. How much is a band? Am I going to get burned because I'm going to buy the sport band in the regular band and then the next one is going to come out and it's going to use different bands. That's going to be totally.

Jason Atwood: This is the thing, this is the UNI paper. So mad!

Justin Edelstein: I just, I enjoy it for the time I have it. Consider it a cost of living. Yes! Consider it like a tax. Same thing. I pay taxes. That's awesome. Ones of choice, ones of must do.

Jason Atwood: No, these are not things we need in our life. These are total things. Anyway, I'm excited about it. We're both excited. I'm gonna get it. I just should get it. I'm always skeptical at first. You know what you can use that...

Justin Edelstein: You're gonna get towards it Use my coin to buy it

Jason Atwood: Well my coin integrate with Apple page one which one will start working for us Apple pay or coin Oh, that's right Apple. They'll be here. It'll be on my phone.

Justin Edelstein: Oh, it's too bad It's it's kind of the reason when I wait to go to Subway and buy a Subway sandwich when I saw that or Dwayne Reed and buy some deodorant. That's my thing I said about the

Jason Atwood: Coin the other day, that it's this awesome idea, but it looks like someone who has a trillion dollars in R&D can come in and swipe up in four seconds. And he's a little guy who had to go around for six month testing every little sniper. Any swipes. Yeah, you're just not going to scale. All right, well that was the Apple announcement. Anything else they did on YouTube,

Justin Edelstein: We started listening to the album for free. YouTube, we both downloaded the album.

Jason Atwood: They didn't talk about, I mean, I would say, they didn't really go into any of the... That was a cool little thing they did there.

Justin Edelstein: They were like, yeah, we're just gonna go give everyone this album.

Jason Atwood: Anybody has an Apple ID. An Apple ID.

Justin Edelstein: Here you go. 500 million people. Here we are, people. people. Here's an album. Here's a platinum album. Yeah.

Jason Atwood: Done. Well, it was funny. No one paid for it. The album is of an LP. So it's a kind of like a throwback. Here's an LP looking album. You know, digital, a digital, you know,

Justin Edelstein: I. We buy LPs. Yes. Well, there's the Edelstein family buys LPs. Craziness. You get the free digital download. and you get the physical copy.

Jason Atwood: All right, who can beat that? And you have a wind-up Don't have a watch, that's funny, cause we're having the watch your dad gave you.

Justin Edelstein: I wore it for like a month and then I was like, I don't wanna wear it. It's annoying on my wrist. So I might not get this thing, I don't like things on my wrist. Don't I just I I never wear jewelry. I don't like technology you're wearing technology. I got to it You know what you know it is gonna be the thing that I'm gonna have to go I'm gonna have to wait for you to get it to put it on my wrist to see if I can wear it like and function in life.

40:19 Jason Atwood: Well, it's also not a life-changing event, like... $250, okay? Yeah, you buy it, you don't like it, you turn it back, you, you refund it. and just get on the flight with my watch. I'm just interested in seeing how the evolution of this watch turns into a computer that is like Star Trek because that's what I want. I want Siri to be there. Do you want a beam? No, I want a hey computer. I want hey Siri and I want that watch which is now, because my hand up is now. six inches from my mouth, I want the watch to be picking up on it and then talk to other things. All right, well that's our Apple announcements, which is all about Apple announcements. Next week,

Justin Edelstein: We're gonna do some- Very special CloudFocus Weekly.

Jason Atwood: Salesforce Winter 14, and the Salesforce Tech Fund that was announced. And we might talk a little bit about the new virus. Yes. that I've been getting a lot of people asking me about, which is, going around, targeting Salesforce users. Yeah. Maybe how to protect yourself. Yes., right? That's good.

Justin Edelstein: We're gonna do the five o'clock news thing. the, I'm picking an- on Twitter, L-Y-Y, and he So we are at this post on how to, to mass delete pick list values from a field that is pretty good. Let's just say like, well, a lot is in the thousands, a thousand. But yesterday I had this example where I had 150 something pick list values and already created fields. Now I could have just deleted the field and recreated the field if I wanted to, but I did not want to do that. As I reminded you, someone else said that to me too. They're like, why don't you just do that? I'm like, I didn't want to,. r r r r r h r r L for delete and that would that's basically the way you'd have to do it.

43:48 Justin Edelstein: You'd have to click the delete button and Wait for it to delete and then click the delete button again and wait for that to delete and so on and so forth down The page so the reason why I had to delete these is because I had an incomplete set so someone gave me a hundred and fifty of their pick list values and then Later on, they gave me 350 and I didn't know which of the 350 were already in there. So I need, as you know, you can't just add 350 to the list because some of them are dupes and Salesforce doesn't allow you to do that for some crazy reason, which it should, but anyway. So I needed to delete and then re-input the 350 values in a pick list. I like it.

Justin Edelstein: So, I navigated to the page after creating my bookmark, or my bookmark let, maybe you might want to call this a bookmark let, I don't know. And I clicked the button, the bookmark. And I did it in Chrome. Chrome wanted to kill the page, but I said no wait. Because it's all running, sitting there in JavaScript, running. So in his article, he said if you're, if I've tested in Chrome, it works. If you see like Chrome may hang, the page is going to look like it's hanging. Chrome is going to ask you if you want to kill it. Don't kill it. Just wait it out. So I click wait. I waited, gave it a couple minutes, I refresh the page, they were all gone. Boom. Gone. And I was able to add my 350 more rvalues.

Justin Edelstein: And the only thing is you got to keep one. So yeah, the last one. So once that one was once that one was kept, I actually edited that one and said...... This is an old one delete me when you're done. That was my little way of knowing which one it was. Okay, because I changed the value. So then I deleted that one myself after loading in the others. So anyway, the link for this blog post, which has the code in it, the JavaScript in it, will be in the will be in and on the website. Yes, it will always be there. That's blog.argaesync.com. There's no company. It's free. and it's just a blog post with some JavaScript in it called MassDeletePicklistValues in Salesforce.

Jason Atwood: Nice, nice, well that's a good pick. I might use it.

Justin Edelstein: If you ever come across an infrit, you know? But maybe, maybe, maybe I will, just saying.

Jason Atwood: I am gonna pick something that I have. Thought we might have picked at some point, but I don't think we have so I asked you and you hadn't picked it No, I've never used it. So The other partner that shall not be named he does use this I know uses it in the car. I've just never had the description so as a funny way of going around the around abund to get, the story I I have a car and when I bought the car it came with Sirius XM for the first three months All right, yeah, and it's like three months. It's perfect, right? And I had bought my car halfway across the country. I had to drive it back. So I flew out, bought my car, and then drove it back for two days.

47:06 Jason Atwood: So nothing was better than having a brand new series that I could listen to. And at that point, NFL Network. And I could listen to NFL Network for about. I don't know, two days straight in the car and it's great. So I've been a fan, but I don't drive my car that very often, like once every two weeks. And so it's kind of like something I kind of use, but don't really use, but kind of use. So every year they send me this bill and for all these listening to it, you don't ever pay your serious bill out the door. You just call them up, you say, I want to cancel and then they'll give it to you for half price. Every single time. It was $164 for the year and then I called them up and I was like, okay, $81.

Jason Atwood: I was like, okay. But then I said, well, what about, I've been hearing, they keep advertising for this fantasy channel. They're saying, a fantasy channel. And I'm like, I don't get this fantasy channel. And of course, like any sucker, they then said, well, for another $30 a year, you can get the fantasy channel because it comes on, it comes in the all access pass, which you can then use on... you can use on any device you can use on your iPhone, your iPad, or just online, you can get the you can get the serious access. I was like, Oh, I, I want that. So anyway, I'm picking Sirius XM, the app, not the service, picking the app because the app is on the iPhone, iPad, I'm, you know, it's also online. And, and it's just a nice little app, you can base basically the serious But now you can put it anywhere so you don't have to be in your car.

Jason Atwood: You don't have to have one of those dedicated devices, which is what it used to have. And then you used to have to pay for every device you had. So if you had it like you had one radio, you had to pay to put it in another radio. It was weird model. Now it's it's literally just streaming. It's on an app, right? It comes with the internet. It's Sirius XM that doesn't even come from a satellite because it's coming down to some internet station, some, you know, and then coming through the internet. Which is even weird because it's expressly station glared. This thing isn't talking to a satellite. Right. Think about it. No, it's not. So through the Internet. So it's kind of weird. But anyway, it does help. They have lots of stations and they're kind of fun.

Jason Atwood: And you know, they're I don't know if you guys have Sirius XM. If you're a Howard Stern fan, they've got Howard Stern channels. I know you listen to that. I'm a big fan of the NFL radio. They basically have a channel that's like 24 hours of NFL radio. And now they have this new fantasy sports radio where they then go back and forth and talk about fantasy sports. It's not all football sports, but it does have a lot to do. That's kind of fun. So anyway, that's my pick. It is free, but of course there are services and you have to pay for things. I feel like this is the last of this. I think, serious, I Call them up and they'll offer you a thing. It's a very strange thing, but anyway save yourself some money.

Jason Atwood: So that's my pick of the week, that's it. Follow Justin and all of his Apple Watch problems at just Elstein. Follow me and all my non-problems, there are no problems, at Jason M. Atwood on Twitter and Ar, C, C is in there because people who are going to Dreamforce. So it's a good place to go and get into that group because we're putting things in there. Maybe where to meet us, how to meet us. I don't know what else, how to do things at us. And we'll be back next week with all the stuff we talked about. Until then, as always. Enjoy those cloudy days.

51:30 Justin Edelstein: You