Pebble & Pit - Episode #208 of CloudFocus Weekly

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00:10 Jason Atwood: This is the 200th episode of Confocuse Weekly for the first week of March 2015. This episode is about to begin. Pebble and Pit, CloudFlex Weekly is brought to you by Arkus. Now we are hiring. If you're a Salesforce consultant and want to be part of a unique and growing company, send your resume to careers at arkusinc.com or just reach out to one of us, Justin or myself, in the success community, Twitter, or any other way that you know how to contact us. That's pretty the only two ways. Email, you can always send us emails. I'm your host, Jason Atwood, and joining me, the person who wants to...

Justin Edelstein: Talk about things a lot. Co-hosts Justin Edelstein. I was gonna chime in and say, I actually put a post in the job postings group in the success community just this morning. The call is out. There you go, the call is out. Let me see your recruiter. Let me, yeah, if you're a recruiter, I really don't want your LinkedIn email. No.

Jason Atwood: Let me rattle just right to start. Have you been noticing that the comments in the idea exchange, I posted this on the Twitter today, but the comments on the idea exchange, I saw like three over three different idea exchange ideas,

Justin Edelstein: Are getting kind of nasty. I have noticed that. And it's getting kind of like. I noticed one that you specifically pointed out to me. And I was like,

Jason Atwood: Ooh, that's. Do you see the follow up to that one?

Justin Edelstein: There's more to it? It just seems like. I wanna look now. Well now you're getting me to go look. Don't go look. That was a bad idea by you.

Jason Atwood: It seems like recently just has been a bunch of people who are using the idea exchange as, A, so they're commenting on an idea. It's not that the idea is a bad thing, but it's like. Thank you. I'm We might pick two or zero of them. I mean, they're doing a much better job of like communicating, but even one the other day I found was the product manager had responded seven years ago. And it's a pretty big idea with lots of stuff on it. theh I- and the I do, I do, I, R R.

03:30 Guest: Obviously we built clone Thank you, platform, thank you, Parker. Parker's on the desktop the two.

Jason Atwood: You know, because the response is like, well, I could write this in like an hour and a half or something.

Guest: So, Torman comes in and says, I guess this is all in public, so it's not like I'm telling

Jason Atwood: Tales and says, well, we'd love for you to share your code with us if you have it done, but have you checked out calling this user, it does what you wanted to do, and then the guy comes back and, you know, they kind of went back and forth. It's good enough. Well, they just don't, you know. Why put, why put your money in if there's literally a good app that's, that's, pay. Ours are free. Ours are free. But at the same time we're still thinking about doing another one. Oh, why are we so caught up in doing them? Cuz they're fun. They're fun. They're just fun little things fun. Cuz the cone this user Was the best one we've ever done in terms of like the amount of effort we had to put into it Put in just the right amount of effort.

Jason Atwood: So like we didn't have to you know, sort of Just kill ourselves permission. It took a time compliance talker took a lot of time. So I think we've got to the method, which is build something that's nice, easy, fun, easy to build, and has a great icon. And then no one already has a great icon in my head. Open, mobile, social, all right, just do it that way. So let's do our agenda. We have the blog post of the week.

Justin Edelstein: The founder making great time by the way agenda we have a

Jason Atwood: Little out another idea we'll come back to the idea change and then basically we have sort of a smartwatch battle which is started I guess

Guest: Keep going next week, so we'll do that. fun bit of news, and about a mission.

Justin Edelstein: Why do you think the smartwatch battle's three days ago? Cause some gauntlets were drawn. Oh, yeah. I'll explain it. Swords were drawn? Swords were drawn... People had their clouds are raining. I don't know. Okay.

06:32 Jason Atwood: But first let's talk about on blog.arcasinc.com. We have the latest. Oh, there is one new today, but we're going to talk about that next week,

Guest: Which is from the person who should have a name, but now is named to the top. So I know that I feel like changing his name on the website too.

Jason Atwood: I am not named. I'm not named. He-should. and it's really this came about because, we occasionally we'd write probably 95% of the stuff we write about is Salesforce stuff. But occasionally we're also big GTD people and productivity people and so, and I'm usually the one who writes that stuff. But I think this came about because he was talking about his system and how it's changed changed and how he's really like done it over years and so I just thought oh that's a great blog post. You should write about how you did and it actually came out to be a great blog post. Not that all this stuff isn't. Great, but,

Guest: Well, this is the greatest of all the great of all his great so he is great and this is the greatest. This is the greatest of all the various different blog posts that he's read.

Justin Edelstein: All the various different ones, yeah.

Jason Atwood: And basically, we don't think we have to go into it because it's actually just a good read. It's about him and what tools he uses to stay focused and to stay productive. Really great read.

Guest: And he really talks about how he does it. He talks about the tools.

Jason Atwood: It's the stuff that we have talked about a hundred times, and OmniFocus and Evernote and Dropbox and Salesforce. He's on the sales side of things, so he uses tasks and Salesforce a lot to keep himself going. But anyways, it's a really good read. Let's just say go for it, the one we got plenty to talk about today. So go to blog.arkusinc.com. It's there, it's called A Life Well Balanced.

Guest: Anyway, read it and comment on the bottom or comment somewhere else where you want to comment. All right, so last weekend, was it last weekend? Two weekends ago.

Jason Atwood: Two weekends ago. I went on and I was on the weekend looking at something on the Idea Exchange or...

Guest: I think it was, I started on the app exchange and I started getting some errors. And then I started getting more, and then I started, and I couldn't get into anything. From everything, from partners, to success, to I-D,

Jason Atwood: All down. And it was down for 24 hours.

Guest: Literally almost 24 hours, because I checked when I actually tweeted it and whatever. I was rather surprised. And you know what, since a not core sales force, I haven't read any news about it. I haven't seen anybody talking about it. But basically,

Jason Atwood: Three of... I mean, they're all coming off the same org. Because Power of Us was not down. Because it's in a separate org.

Guest: But they were all down. And down like, not friendly down, not a little down.

Jason Atwood: Very down like did not work throwing, huge errors i was surprised and not a notice not an upgrade thing

Guest: I'm just surprised it didn't make more news could it have been a spring thing i

Jason Atwood: Know, they're doing a new partner a new partner ratings that they launched And I know they put some new stuff in the app exchange. AppExchange has a new look and feel a little bit. Just, it's not big, but they put like the icons on the side.

09:45 Guest: They just clean things up. If you didn't notice, it's like very little bit cleaned up. So I think maybe it was launching of that and maybe we took down some other stuff. I'm just surprised that stuff is down.

Jason Atwood: Like, you know, it's been a long time since I go to use a Salesforce thing and it's just not working. Like just not there. Sorry. And for... Hours and hours and hours again didn't affect salesforce services as far as I know so which is weird

Justin Edelstein: Well the whole thing is weird like it's but that part's really weird doesn't that make you think and I'm I'm gonna Get my yeah, I'm gonna make myself sound stupid. You're gonna have to a help me here. Okay, talk to me about like how domains work and like domains. Yeah, so like because it's on. Like the www.something, something, something. Yeah, so it's like success.salesforce.com. Could there have been something messed up with those records that actually make that work? Because in reality, this success community is just running in a Salesforce org. So if none of the pods were down in your org, everything's working on the service. Couldn't it be something else?

Guest: Yeah, I don't think... Well, the way a domain works, a domain is just a pointer. So you, the domain, www.whatever,

Jason Atwood: Points to an IP address. Right? It points to something. You basically say, it points to an IP address, or it points to another place. But basically it points to something saying, this is where you need to go. Because when the people who started the internet... They said, you know what, everybody,

Guest: You know what, you should go check out my new website, 192.62.333.22. That's awesome. Such a good address. I know, you should come to my social site. Oh, it's such a good one. 222.39.2.72.

Jason Atwood: 867.309. Someone decided that that wasn't going to go over very well with the general public and that in order to tell people about things you're gonna have to give them Domains like give them something real reasonable. That's what www means to use the world wide web which of course now doesn't mean anything But anyway that means to go to this place so domains point IP addresses now subdomains Here's the deal.'s where I was going subdomains under the control of the person owns the domain. So if you so Salesforce as that's why they can do all the Salesforce.my.sales for you know, Arkus.my.salesforce.com and all those custom names and how it's instant is because they control the subdomain. So their servers set out what the subdomains are gonna be and they control it.

Jason Atwood: But if their subdomains were gone, then the NA16 would be gone. Yeah, I guess so it's not I don't think it was a DNS issue. No, I was wondering anyway I thought it was interesting. I'm surprised no one's really talking about it But one of the things I did we are I went to trust ourselves first calm. Yeah, I was like shouldn't it Shouldn't it be there? They did have a thing on the top that said, here's a little thing, this is all, here we're experiencing technical difficulties, please come back later at the top of trust.

12:50 Guest: But it did make me think, and I put in an idea, if you wanna go vote on the idea,

Jason Atwood: I feel like at underwear the this a point, the success community,

Guest: App exchange, partner, Powerless Hub should all be listed. the trust as their own thing. They should particularly the app exchange in particular more

Justin Edelstein: Than success yeah Wow I don't know well the app exchange you're

Jason Atwood: Messing with people you're messing with people's money well that's the thing someone who wanted to buy and that's right people are buying widgets every single time at the iTunes store that was down So I put a new idea. I don't know if I can pull up the idea, but if you search on the search for it Yeah, so I just base it on trust just like everything else's he could track the the

Guest: Transparency trust that's right social mobile Booyah Social open. Yes open and speaking of open And this is kind of fun

Jason Atwood: So the official Wars the smartphone wars I think or smartwatch wars just took a just got just got real Just got real because of this thing this pebble.

Justin Edelstein: Yeah, so why is this the thing? That's making it because let's do a little way back machine Okay, we just went back Back in the day,

Jason Atwood: Not that far back, when Apple released the iPod Nano, the one that was small and rectangular. Yes, I remember that. A lot of companies scrambled and Kickstarter projects started to actually build it into a watch. Because you could have watch faces on it, whatever. That started like people going, ooh, I might actually want to have this thing on my watch. I actually bought one of them and you could put the Nano into the thing and it looked okay. It's like, okay, that's kind of cool.

Guest: And I got this stuff on and I can run with it, whatever.

Jason Atwood: Pebble was born of that. People said, ooh, there's something here. People are paying money to buy these things to turn these into sort of watches on their phone or on their wrist. Smart thing. So they built their first. The Pebble. It set records for Kickstarter.

Justin Edelstein: The most funded whatever. Is that the one that you have? The original? Yes, I have two. My daughter has one. Well that's the one I was... I was playing with your daughter's pebble yesterday. Yes, that sounded just sounded wrong, but even

Guest: Though you say it sounds you're right

Jason Atwood: So So they, they went and then they launched and they sold trillions of them right where they sold a lot of them It was the big I mean they raised ten million dollars eight million dollars something crazy.

Justin Edelstein: They've got quite-a-few-millions You're not your story

Jason Atwood: So then Apple comes out right there's always the Apple watch so they come out they announce the Apple watch which is now And this is why this story is kind of sort of skipping all the other smart

15:56 Justin Edelstein: Watches that are out there in the universe In terms of volume of sales.

Guest: Yeah, cuz there's nothing there. There, but you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're You're talking about this pe. Pebble.

Jason Atwood: Yeah, the one that the original one that sold that Raise more money and had more awareness about smart food to raise more money than this one right now It didn't.

Justin Edelstein: This is double. Right, so this is 63,000 backers. That's nothing. Apple is gonna sell that in the first hour but let's but let this is 63 backers 63,000 backers yeah consumers it's been set three days like I said apples gonna do that in an hour anyway

Jason Atwood: Apple came out last year announced the Apple Watch back in September I think and set the date way in the future. It's like going to be you know, that's going to happen sometime in the future. And the future is they're announcing it on Monday this coming Monday. So these guys pebble comes back and and the original pebble was black and white. It run a little version of Linux. It had Bluetooth.

Guest: It could connect to your phone. It could do notifications.

Jason Atwood: It was cool. I will say it was cool. I used it for a little bit and then I was like, yeah, this is not cool enough for me. But to me, it started my want of the phone, of to have that device, right? I was like, oh, it's just scratch and itch.

Guest: So Apple's coming out with theirs. Not all I've known about the Apple one, like what it is, how long it's going to last, battery life, this and that. So these guys launched,

Jason Atwood: I can't believe this last Friday or this Monday or something, they launched the new one. It's called, I think it's called Pebble Time. Pebble time. It has been out for seven days. First of all, so it's a color they're doing color. They're also doing steel color e paper and they're doing yeah And they've created a new way of the new interface They do it like they call it a time things either Timeline interface in the past or in the future and they've been this new one called Steel which is like, you know, so it's like the better looking. Watch Seven days of battery life and that's the big one This is why I think that this they throw in the gauntlet because now the number one known smartwatch before Apple came out Right the pebble In fact another employee here who has a pebble.

Jason Atwood: I think he has a second version Brought out a new version that's gonna be color. That's gonna be glass means retail, we need nine something 249 now or maybe even less.

Guest: Again, they're announcing that on Monday. So, but this is, I think this is great because this is huge competition. You're saying it isn't a competition to Apple?

19:02 Jason Atwood: I think it is, because it's, they're saying, hey, we'll go seven days. Oh, you want color? We got color. You want it to go, you want yours in the last. A day?

Justin Edelstein: There's as a so this is like a real competitor you think I deserve so are you gonna go by one? I am so close to buying one But you're not gonna because I can't because you're gonna get the Apple one because first of all I already own one and I don't wear it and I want the This competitor that you already own one, but there's the new version. Oh, well, and I want the Apple one So you're gonna get that one. So I'm probably get the Apple one Well, you're gonna get that one. Anyway, the question is are you gonna get this one, too, right?

Guest: And then I was like, do I How many watches do you need? Now, you know, these watches like dress watches,

Jason Atwood: You know, you get different affairs and they look nice. And you know, but these are technical watches. So I think what happens is once you wear one, you're kind of gonna get hooked to it. And why would you give up this technical watch to put on another? Technical watch.

Guest: So this one does all your activity tracking and all this and you like it. If I swap it out, I'm like, oh, I'm going to give up all that functionality to do this new functionality, but that doesn't work with the same apps and doesn't. I just don't think that works. I don't think you need two smart watches.

Justin Edelstein: Oh, I don't think you need two. I am. I'm like coming around to the idea of needing one.

Jason Atwood: I don't really think I need any.

Guest: It's a want. Oh yeah. These are wants.

Justin Edelstein: You don't need a smartwatch for anything. You want a smartwatch. Oh, I want a smartwatch. I don't know. This to me feels like Palm, circa 2007. 2006. It's like, yeah, palm, yeah, palm, like hey, here's that color trio. No, here's that color, here's that color trio. Hey, this thing's like open and anyone can write an app for these apps on it. Ooh, there's apps. There's like 30,000 apps that iPhone. You can't even get an app on it. What's the oh, you bookmark a web page and web pages are designed for mobile. What's that? That's stupid. Look at this. This has a thing. It's touch and it has a thing you can write with. I was. Oh my God. Yeah, this feels like palm to me. So you think this is not this is they won't go anywhere.

Justin Edelstein: Well, they're going somewhere, going to a certain point. They're going to hit a cap where it's a done for them. They're going to sell 100,000 of these things. Easy. Apple will probably sell that in probably one store. One store will sell 100,000. 100,000. And their website will sell 100,000.

22:39 Guest: Immediately. An hour. If you could buy them Great way to just get out there. I just think they must've been an interesting conversation because Pebble was established. They could have marketed it., they Because now this is now the biggest one ever. It's raised almost $16 million in seven days.

Jason Atwood: And it will surpass 20 million and it will have over 100,000 backers and it will. You're right, for scale to Apple,

Justin Edelstein: It's probably not a big deal. I think you're sort of throwing out all the Samsung ones and all the other ones. I can't. Exactly.

Jason Atwood: But you could have named a Pebble. What's that one that the other guy has on his wrist? What's the one that I bought you would have known?

Justin Edelstein: I think if you would have said, what's the one I bought? Meaning you. I would have said Pebble. But I think if you asked me what he had on his wrist. It's the same thing, but okay. It's not. I would have guessed that it was like the newest Fitbit. Right. Oh, the newest Fitbit has like a watch face on it. That's what I would have guessed. It's a pebble. All right, whatever.

Guest: Well, again, Gauntlet Throne, on we go to next week. So next week, that's the big announcements on Monday.

Justin Edelstein: So we'll be covering that live is what you're saying. Well, we'll be covering live because I'll be watching it.

Jason Atwood: But it, it will be the announcement of the watch. almost definitely. I mean, it's like 99%. And I'm still like, there's now been all the pricing.

Guest: I've sent you the pricing. Like I sent you like, the pricing is leaked.

Jason Atwood: Oh, you already know. All right, well, I'm gonna wait till it comes out until I actually get the real thing. I'm really concerned about the one I want and the one I want to get. The one I want I think is up there, like.

Justin Edelstein: Up there. you Yeah, I want one that I'm gonna use when I'm actually like exercising that'll get sweaty and gross and then I want one To flip out so I could actually wear the thing nice Anyway, I'm fascinated.

Guest: I'm the whole wearables thing is is totally fascinating to me. Well talk to me about something else So the next one up and I don't know a ton about this. So I'm not gonna Pretend that I do. I don't know anything about it. Well,

Jason Atwood: So I only saw this because they showed up on, oh, Larry Wilmore's new show. He has a new show and they talked about this. So apparently, I think it's 2024, a private company, so this is a private capital company, has designed a trip to Mars. And there is called Mars One, and they are having a contest and sort of a thing to get in 100 or get in, I think it's 18 or 24 people, something like that.

25:59 Guest: Which they are going to then send to Mars.

Justin Edelstein: There's a couple things about it. In what year now? 2024. 2024. 24 years, they're gonna build this thing.

Guest: It's a private government government, this is like a private thing. They're going to signing up for it. They've already had 100 people who are part of the process. Like a lottery? Well, I think it's to prove you can pay for it kind of thing. I don't know. I don't even know. But here's one of the things I do know. It's called It's also one way.

Justin Edelstein: Oh, for real? Yeah. Like you can't come back?

Guest: There's no coming back. Go ahead and ask.

Jason Atwood: So let me explain it. Go and ask. Let, go ask. Ask, go ask. I'm gonna, but I won't explain it. So this woman and she is married and she has a, and they were like, are you, you know, would you go? And then they went around and asked in the, whatever, it's part of the nightly. And they were like, no.

Justin Edelstein: In 2024, you will be... 9 years older than I am today. You'll be my age. I'll be your age.

Guest: Of my age. You'll be married for 10 years. That's all I'll watch you at that point. Probably still be working on my kids. a chance. Let's say you pay $,

Jason Atwood: I'm just going to put a number on it just so it doesn't feel like oh it's just free.

Guest: And let's say starting in 2020 you've got to go.

Jason Atwood: Earth dollars Martian up Martian Let me give you MIT and MIT, a study that said that this mission, that the probability or the time they did like an analysis, the time for the between the time of landing and the first person dying. It was 69 days It was 69 days Well not that everybody would die But 69 days It was the first person that was going to die within 69 days

Justin Edelstein: So many people are going on this thing. I need to know a little bit more before I can answer the ultimate-ultimate question which is I get it. Crews of four will depart every two years starting in 2024

Guest: So four people Our first unnamed mission will be launched in 2018 Yeah, so four people, so crews of four, so then you're gonna set up a crew of four, then set up another crew of foura

29:27 Justin Edelstein: Well, I I thought maybe the two of us could go. I'm full of pie, but the chance to do- Your cat's not going. Your cat won't be alive in nine years. I don't know enough about Mars. Like, do I have to wear a spacesuit? The whole time. Oh my god. Peep a p I displeasure. a he So, wait, like, is there gravity? There's a gravity, yeah. a, in in 20 years. Well wait, sorry, I wanna go 20 years after the first person's gone.

Guest: So I wanna go 30 years from now. I'm not going, clearly, I'm not going.

Jason Atwood: But I am now and forever excited about the series of TV shows that will show up starting in 2018.

Justin Edelstein: You want on man oh okay yeah you want for when this society even ends I want I know from

Guest: 2024 so from 2020 four years of it it's like the real but it's the real Mars this election process the people them getting ready

Justin Edelstein: This could be an amazing set of TV shows. Now, when they get up there, can they... Can they record stuff and send it back onto us? Well, yes, we have...

Jason Atwood: Have you been locked in like... Where are you? Have you not paid attention to anything in science for the last 20 years? We've sent... aliens? There's no aliens. We've sent missions to Mars. We've sent robots. We've gotten back pictures.

Guest: No, but we have pictures. Yeah, so how the pictures get back Justin carry your pigeon Martians

Justin Edelstein: So so yeah, I think I want to go but 20 years after 2044 year we're too old to go. Sorry. That's when I want to go cuz I feel like People will have stuff figured out by You'll be sixty perfect I'm sixty two Your knees will be gone you'll be on I don't need them there's nothing up there I don't need knees Apparently to you there's air you don't even There's air I can just float around I play golf I can hit the ball of mine Anyway so I am

32:32 Jason Atwood: I started thinking this is the craziest thing I've ever seen or heard of, but then literally the reality TV concept, the concept of what this could mean for reality TV. That is pathetic. It could, well, no, but I'm saying reality TV in the, I'm using it in the, when people watch us land on the moon for the first time, everybody was around their TV sets and watching it tappen live and it was like the most amazing thing.

Guest: That's this company I don't know you have to read all about it. I'm sure there's I mean it could be very Very intriguing isn't it isn't it settling totally be a and it's settling that's

Justin Edelstein: Internet infrastructure set up got like oh hey Justin there's your there's your house over there pod

Guest: This is where we have the food we figured out water. It's over there I mean, I think that's what's so fascinating about this. I don't go over there.

Jason Atwood: There's aliens I guess that I guess that's what it gets me about My generation your generation.

Guest: I think We're close you either could fit into mine or your millennial. I don't think you want me in one somewhere in between I'm in that tweener zone. You know,

Jason Atwood: We didn't get to experience neither one of us got to experience Walking on the moon like that moment where people were you know buzz ultra and got to the

Guest: Moon and walked on it And it was like no. I mean that was amazing and you look the closest thing that you and I get to

Justin Edelstein: Events like that is like the Super Bowl like there's no

Guest: Space shuttle I guess when the first space shuttles went up those are pretty cool We don't really have events where everybody's tuned in because we like yes, we haven't gone to another planet We experienced 9-11. Oh no, I know, but that's a disaster.

Jason Atwood: I understand, but that's like an experience that everyone is having at the same time. I'm saying humans making a breakthrough in technology that is unbelievable.

Justin Edelstein: So like, walking on the moon was an amazing thing. Well maybe on March 9th when they unveiled the Apple phone. That will be amazing. Or the Apple Watch, whatever it is. So can I'm... Can I take my Apple Watch up to Mars and will it work? I don't know. Well, first of all, it'll be much better. It might last like three days by the time you go to the month. Will it track my steps? If I'm jumping really far, do they track his more steps? I think the... I'm so out of my depth. Yeah, you are.

Jason Atwood: But I mean, I think this is our generational chance to see something of an amazing scale that we've been talking about for hundreds of years. I'm not hundreds, but 100 years, 150 years, you know.

Guest: Of sending people to other planets. I want time travel first. I don't, you're not getting time, you're getting literally men on Mars. I want time travel. I need to go watch that movie tomorrow.

Justin Edelstein: I really, really, really want time travel before I go to Mars.

Guest: All right, so that's my Mars talk.

Jason Atwood: I'm gonna follow this. Again, the greatest reality TV, and not in the bad sense of reality, although I did compare it to real world. Not the guilty pleasure, guys. Not the guilty pleasure, but just the... Wow, and also just from the technology standpoint, all the things that they have to figure out will benefit us as a society.

35:44 Guest: They will have to figure out these cool things that then we will have to figure out. All right. Wow, all right, so next time. Survey tools,

Jason Atwood: Blog posts about survey tools, and then we'll have all the Apple event goodness, of course, because Apple will be. Right, so we'll do that. But for now, let's do our cloud folks at pick of the week Wow, you actually have one.

Guest: It's almost like I reminded you three hours ago kind of is So

Justin Edelstein: Unfortunately, this is this is weak Unfortunately, I'm a scale of this not super weak. This is super mean on a scale of week to spring 12 spring 12. All right. All right I'm never gonna let you live that down as the worst pick in the history of this It's good. This might this might be not cuz wait till I describe a little bit. Okay, so this is So I'm picking the New York Knicks official app for iOS. Okay, sadly, I'm gonna pick Nick Cleveland Browns Official sadly, I'm a New York Knicks fan. Yes, I believe I have tickets When are we going?

Guest: What game we going to? In a few weeks. Oh wow, can't wait.

Justin Edelstein: And you'll use this app when you get there. Really? Here's why. Okay. Because when you're using the New York Knicks official app and you're inside Madison Square Garden and you're on their Wi-Fi network. Yes. Which is freely available and very fast. You can... or your food in the app and have them bring it to you, which is really clever. I think that's like, they're making it easier for you to... Spend money. Well, spend money and stay at your seat and enjoy the game. I feel like there's this big challenge. Now with sports with telev-visions being so great right and the digital experience of watching There's not much that you watch live anymore or most people watch live sports are one of those things and the way to communally watch them is actually almost better at home with Twitter and a big high definition television as opposed to being at the game where that's all you're kind of that's all you got.

Justin Edelstein: Because being on your phone at a game is sort of weird. Oh yeah. Agree to disagree but okay. Okay. So. So... giving you this sort of immersive experience on the phone that you can experience at the game Tries to bridge that gap. So I like the idea of it. It's well done app You can order food on it. You can watch replays on it. You can see the live score all that stuff on it, which is Yeah, pretty nice. I know the Jets have a very similar thing where you can actually watch like Red Zone on your phone while you're sitting at a game.

Jason Atwood: You have four different camera angles you can watch and then one of the angles or one of the things you can go into is you can watch Red Zone. The idea of bringing that digital experience that people really love.

Justin Edelstein: Right. to the live experience, which people also really love. You gotta compete with sitting on the couch and being able to flip between three channels and have the Twitter going and have your laptop over here with your fantasy scores. And like, that's a tough thing to compete with.

39:03 Jason Atwood: I actually just, I watch two different games in two different ways. The games I watch at home, I watch like you say. I mean, I focus on the game, but yes, I have the Twitter open and whatever. There's so much going on. But then, and you know. And people love it. And you've seen the way I set up my house. I do, it's nuts. But when I'm at the game. I don't do any of that. Like I actually just then enjoy the game experience and I'm happy to be just focused in on what's going on and I'm not sitting on my phone, not checking things, not like whatever, because it is a different experience and I don't find it even more interesting to be checking Twitter when I'm at the game. I'm thinking, I'm really immersed in what's going on.

Guest: Anyway, okay, that might be the worst pick ever made. Wow. Oh.

Jason Atwood: But I might just be making the greatest pick that ever be made. So I wouldn't say the greatest but...

Guest: Well, first of all, how many things do you actually go out and spend money on on the internet? Like to purchase a service. A service. Let's see, I can name them. Netflix? You don't own Dropbox? Do you pay for Dropbox?

Jason Atwood: No. Do you pay for Evernote? No. Do you pay for...like what other service do you pay for? Personally. Google Apps?

Justin Edelstein: Personally? Personally. One of my domains is I have a Google Enterprise account for myself and my wife. Netflix are you counting me or me and my wife do we count? No you can count Hulu fine who? Abs on Prime yeah, it's not service. That's like a that's not service

Guest: It's a little it's a little number now the high number I'm Dropbox ever know all those Anyway, look, look, look, look.

Justin Edelstein: Yeah, not much else, that's it. So in that you went and paid for this? I tried it, I was like, oh, I want that. That makes my life easier. Yeah, so let me talk about it.

Guest: So I was reading on Zite,

Jason Atwood: And I'm one of those two people that I like to be convinced that something's really gonna make my life easier before I use it. This thing had me in about three minutes. It's a service called File This. What is it? It's a website. You go to the website, filethis.com.

Guest: You sign up, they have a free version, a premium version, and a mega version.

Jason Atwood: But what it does is a very simple thing. You sign up,

Guest: Username, password, you create a high level username, password, then you pick these services, and you pick banks, utility companies, whatever. You put in then your username and password to there,

Jason Atwood: And then you say where you want. the basically the statements to go. All this service does is log into these places. So Con Ed, Cable, AT&T, Amex, Bank of America, whatever. They log in on a period,

Guest: They were all getting on a period, like once a week, once a day, they grab the statements. and they throw them somewhere for you. And they renamed them actually, and they renamed them nicely, which I actually like. That's one of the features, but they throw them somewhere. Where'd you throw them? So I threw them into Dropbox,

42:08 Jason Atwood: Because Dropbox is where they go anyway for me. And it worked, and it walked in, it grabbed them. I set up first, it'll give you six for free, that will go once a week.

Guest: I set up the first six, and I said, this works brilliantly. A couple things they could totally do, like I already sent them tons of feedback,

Jason Atwood: Like, allow me to pick the naming convention, allow me to pick where it goes.

Guest: You know, there's a couple things that I'm missing. What's nice is that if you bank it one place, like I bank it Chase,

Jason Atwood: I give it one connection to Chase. It picked up four accounts. Yep, same. And dropped them all into four different folders,

Justin Edelstein: And it goes back as far as it can go. Hit tags things. It tags them. Same Z's. I'm using their service.

Guest: Just to file this whatever.

Justin Edelstein: Yeah, they're cloud service. Yeah, I already connected it to like my Google Drive. Yeah, Google Drive. That's why I was like, I'll just use theirs.

Guest: Yeah, I just didn't want to sync somewhere else.

Jason Atwood: Like I want because where I want them to go is Dropbox. That's where everything sits anyway, because then I can get to it on my desktop if I want it. Anyway, file this calm their services are only just actually talk about the pricing. So they do a you know, it's a per user per month. or per whatever month, they're free and you can do six. Let's do the pricing plans here. Followthis.com.

Guest: Oh, they have apps for the phone and the iPad. I got the app. Those were nice, so you can go and see and you can run them, you can manually run them. So forever free, that's nice.

Jason Atwood: Six connections once a week and then they give you storage. or use your computer or storage of your choice. I mean, I don't know why, I actually don't know why, I mean, maybe you're telling me why, but why would you store it anywhere but where you want it to end up?

Guest: That's where you want it to end up? Yeah, it's fine there. Oh, okay. Then they have premium, which is $2 per month. What I like about their thing, is it just under that like, like cup of coffee, like $2 a month, like.

Jason Atwood: How do you think about your time? I did the analysis. I was like, how much time I take when I get, I got one today from City Mortgage.

Guest: That's where my mortgage is. And I got it and I went, oh, I got to go quick to get the statement. I thought, no, I don't. I don't have to go, log in, find the statement, quick, download, rename.

Justin Edelstein: Just think about how easy. doing your taxes.

Jason Atwood: Five minutes is gonna be fine. I mean, I would say it's about five minutes to do all that to grab the statement and put it somewhere on your drive. You should be actually this just does it for free. So premium is $2 a month or $20 a year. I had a had a problem for three years. Had a problem logging in.

Guest: To a couple. To a couple that I was a little frustrated with. Which ones? United Healthcare.

Justin Edelstein: Yup. I had that one too. It just didn't go. RCN. RCN fine. It grabbed them all. And then it sent me an email like we're having an issue with it and Con Edison.

Guest: Con Edison grabbed both of mine. All of them going back a minute. What I really loved about it is it went back.

Jason Atwood: Like I put in one for TD Bank, which I have a little account over there and it went back and got it's one that I actually don't go log into because I don't log into it enough.

Guest: I put in my five to my kids 529 plan grab them all. I mean it was like Mortgage, anyway, great service.

45:13 Jason Atwood: It needs some features, it needs some naming things. I wanna know, I wanna pick how you name the actual PDFs. It names them a certain way, but I'd kinda like

Guest: To pick a way I wanna name them. But they have the premiums, $2 a month, they're $50 for three years, and $50 for three years.

Jason Atwood: That's pretty good. Like you're not like that's not a lot of money. 50. So I did that. So you did the $50 for three years? I might just be going up too, I might be going up too soon because it runs daily, not once a week.

Guest: That's the only thing that has 30 connections. I'm up to 10 connections. I have 14 now because I referred two people or three people, so maybe 15 now.

Jason Atwood: I'm using 10. I think I need to put on another three. Easy Pass, Massachusetts. Yeah, I was like, get New York. That was it, this is the connections that they need to sort of get going on.

Justin Edelstein: Yeah, there were some weird ones that I'd be like, I'd never throw that on there. Like Amazon,

Guest: I didn't feel like I did Amazon. It was great, it gets a receipt for everything. Really?

Jason Atwood: Yeah, and a PDF. Maybe I should do that. And why not? Yeah, I guess why not. Why not? You get a receipt for every PDF. Fair enough. We'll see you next time. I was the other one that I thought was really good. Oh, did you throw on ADP?

Justin Edelstein: No, because it didn't have the one. It does, and it'll pull up your. It didn't have the right one. It does, I did it. We have the same place. We get paid by the state farm. Awesome, Con Ed, city mortgage. Anyway, it was really good. Sorry. I'm the one to use for ADP because I couldn't figure out It's called ADP run payroll. All right, I'll whatever. Yeah, it's awesome.

Jason Atwood: Anyway, give it a shot. I would really, this is something, this is a time saver, it's perfect. This is one of the few things I look at and I'm like, I wish I had thought of this. This is a really good service. It just does what it does. It's not trying to do anything else. Filethis.com. Hey, if you guys wanna be a sponsor of Come on, I'll help you out.

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Jason Atwood: Again, we'll be back next week. We'll talk about survey tools, we'll talk about the Apple event and all the fun. Well maybe we'll have a who bought what and why.

Guest: Until then, it's. Justin and Jason saying, enjoy those cloudy days. Thanks for watching.