Summer 16 - Episode #244 of CloudFocus Weekly

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00:17 Guest: This 2016.

Jason Atwood: The Permissioner H I I I,, Mike Mike and Justin Edelstein just now you're doing I'm doing well. Thank you. How are you? I am good the Friday It's a Friday fun day Friday Friday spoke to someone early this afternoon who mentioned they listen, listen the podcast and really enjoyed it Oh, really? Good. It's a little, you go little ego. Rubbin you go stroke. I like it So we got two topics today that's it.

Guest: Yep just two. Well, one small one's big. Cool.

Jason Atwood: We went to the Salesforce for New York City so I thought we just mentioned that. Maybe experiences whatever this and that. You're gonna be probably want to work on your pick of the week while we do that.

Justin Edelstein: I am gonna want to work on that. Good, good job buddy. Always, always just keep it up with it. I've got so many now. I have so many now that it's like I just haven't. Jeez. I'm just. giving you a heads up since I don't see it in the dock here. Yeah, there's nothing there. Yeah, thanks. Nothing in the old noggin either. Salesforce World Tour.

Jason Atwood: And then we'll talk about, and then we got summer, so the summer is coming and we, although I think it's more like hitting some orgs, I think it's like next weekend, and so we have not one not for-.. about summer. We'll go through all of them. We'll go through all of them. We'll go through all of them. We'll go through all of the features. We're excited. We'll dig into summer and that's it. And then we'll call it a day. So let's start with the sales World Tour in New York. I will say, so I've been to, I went to Chicago.

Guest: You went to Boston. Yes. We both went to New York. Did you go to DC? That is true. You didn't go to DC. I did not, no.

Justin Edelstein: Obviously, we go. I was going to, but then I had to travel somewhere.

Guest: Obviously, we go to Dreamforce. But I was talking to someone today, who,

Justin Edelstein: Same person, we were talking about. you Like what? How many people have you actually talked to today? Just you. Just you. But this was not you. Okay.

Jason Atwood: About sort of the world tours and where they've been and I always make the joke back I think almost nine or ten years ago world tour was in a lobby, in a hotel, in a small I think it was the Pierre? The Pierre was my first.

03:24 Justin Edelstein: Look at that off the top of my head. It was my first, first experience with... It wasn't even called cloud for, it was called just like Salesforce meeting in New York or something. Yeah, it's just something very not branded. I also recall my first one. They had the keynote speaker. It was Nicholas Carr,

Guest: Who was the... That was a bigger one than when I went to. Well, you went to one before I did. That was like the Hilton or something.

Justin Edelstein: No, no, that was still the Pierre. That was still the Pierre? Yes. and he spoke about his book Yesss What's that book called? Darn it Wow It's in our Yeah well what's the name of it? Fine, what's the name? I'm just trying to make fun of you If you're gonna make fun of me like Well I'm making fun of you I'm thinking about it So what's the actual name of it? Something, power, change, cloud Ahh Terrible Terrible look at that You don't know the name of it You don't know the name of it The big switch The big switch I just wanted to say that Which is a great and he was talking at that time Salesforce was so about the cloud. Let us teach you about this thing called the cloud and that was my first event so he keynoted the platform, right, because they had never really been considered the platform before and Apex and Visualforce had just come out.

Justin Edelstein: So they had on stage Jeremy Roche, who's, the CEO of Financialforce, right? And, they were showing off Financialforce. and it was some movie theater chain or what or who it was. Basically, it was one of those flashy dim,

Jason Atwood: But it was Dolby Studios and they did an app that they could see their things in movies. You could see embedded video in page and sales stories.

Justin Edelstein: Oohs and ahs right like imagine like visual force right you can do anything now right and it was like oh, okay No, it was impressed. I mean Back then totally impressed Well, like you could do anything and then think about what they were saying then you could do anything right? You? You still can't do anything. No you want so it's you know, that was

Jason Atwood: Nine, so I will so so the world tour is now Wasn't one in like February?

Justin Edelstein: There's been two a year in New York now. They do one like right after Dreamforce. Oh, there's another one in December. Right after Dreamforce for people who basically are in New York and don't go all the way across the country. This one was weird.

Jason Atwood: So I've been to a lot of them. They've all been growing. So every time I've gone, it's gone, bigger and bigger and bigger. This year though, for some reason, it's like they contracted. It was smaller. It was very like. Expo floor was small and condensed. Very condensed. No, no admin zone. No trailhead. No developer theater.

Justin Edelstein: Nothing. It was kind of just much smaller. I think the, the trailhead DX or trailhead X, whatever it's called that developer conference.

06:50 Jason Atwood: That is or isn't a developer, And that's more of like a multi-day like. It's full session. Well, but like these world tours

Justin Edelstein: Are not like nobody has like keynote speakers that aren't Salesforce executives Like they have was right who's doing the keynote or a special fireside chat or whatever Well, this one any off will be there and Parker Harris will be there So like more important little more back when Benny off he's little juice to it So the best part I thought of it was

Jason Atwood: So we're in New York Obviously the ones in Boston two years ago was Tom Brady last year or this year was Bill Belichick so currently a football thing making notes last year's world tour was Jeter yep with Jeets and then this year they announced it like two days before they got Eli Manning they even announced it which they don't normally don't and it was Eli Manning which I thought was kinda fun I'm not a Giants fan but I'm a big football fan and I'm a fan of I love sports ball.

Guest: And that was fun.

Jason Atwood: I just hearing him speak and again it was... I was busy working. Oh really?

Justin Edelstein: Did you see it yet? I did not see it yet.

Jason Atwood: I was busy talking to somebody. Who gets who is interviewing him?

Justin Edelstein: Do you know? I have no idea. I wasn't in the room. Dan Darcy. Oh, Demo Dan? Demo Dan? Demo D was? Yeah, he was doing the interview.

Jason Atwood: Oh, that's cool. So it was so cool when he came up, I'm like, oh, and he's like, he's like the vice president of productivity or something? Literally, he said vice president of productivity. I was like, that's my role. I want to be that role.

Justin Edelstein: Demo D just making a show in there. Here comes Eli,

Jason Atwood: And it was cool. I mean, it was very... Two things, one I thought he spoke better than I thought he was going to. Of course, because, you know. He just doesn't seem like a good speaker. He doesn't seem... yeah. But he, but the questions were, you know, I mean I'm gonna make a baseball, they were soft, you know, they were lobs.

Guest: So he was throwing them out, you know, knocking them out of the park or, you know, throwing touchdowns.

Justin Edelstein: But they were, they were like, so. Was he knocking them out of the park or throwing touchdowns?

Guest: What was that? He's like, so tell me about. leadership on a team.

Jason Atwood: So all he did was he told stories, which I'm sure some of them, one of them was about his brother winning the Super Bowl this year, which was fun, and another one was about him winning the catch. And there's stories that you can just tell he's told 50, 60, 70 times. I've not heard them all.

Guest: But they were good. And it was interesting.

Jason Atwood: I was a little disappointed that it was smaller. I get it from a... They're just spreading themselves with connections and with Trailhead DX and with all the world tours going on. This one, I don't think it's getting all the love in New York. It was fine. Again, it just doesn't... For me, it's less and less interesting to go to these. As a New Yorker...

10:00 Justin Edelstein: I'd like to disparage Boston and you know, I'll go ahead and say Alright fine, New York like not a big deal right like we're gonna get there's gonna be another one in New

Jason Atwood: York this year Right December, but and I imagine it'll be very similar. I don't think so. I think it'd be much bigger I think this one the reason this was smaller is because of I think though how-they-timed it I don't think they got a space I don't think they got that there was another conference going in space that normally are two other conferences going and I was Dabbits,

Justin Edelstein: Yes the stamp collectors and then some other conference They also did not. And last year's Dreamforce content isn't fresh enough because too many things have happened. So you're in this weird zone of breakout session content that you don't have. You know, when you have a few of the three of them, well, odds are you can just put those right back on two months later. Nothing else. It's a free event. Which is cool.

Jason Atwood: You go, you can see stuff, see you, I mean, meet people, walk around, and at the end they give you beer.

Justin Edelstein: And any place that you do give you beer at the end, or wine, or wine, free beer and wine, come on. The food stitch wasn't that great though, like I showed up hungry and... Oh, that's a mistake. It's out in the cup. It's out in the cup. And rice crispy treats on a stick. So I had a couple of those. That's nutritious.

Guest: I needed the sugar. I don't know. All right. Speaking of sugar. Speaking of some sweetness. Let's jump into summer 16.

Jason Atwood: Yeah, let's do it. All right. I feel like this is the most reliable release timeframe. The summer release is almost always exactly in the same spot where I feel like winter and spring switch around a little bit. But this one is very reliable.

Justin Edelstein: I'd like to make a statement. Yes. Summer 16.

Guest: Yeah It's better than spring 14

Justin Edelstein: It ought to be I feel mm-hmm as though this is the release where They're gonna There they're gonna fall back on it and say this is when Like lightning experience really came out. Like I feel like this is when a lot of the lightning experience stuff is coming, GA and coming around and really being more reliable. I still find myself trying to use it. I'm trying doing my best. Is this not like I just find that I can't do certain things or maybe I. and I know how to do them, it's just I'm not seeing enough and then in certain cases I'm seeing too much in terms of data, like I'm not seeing it in the right places at the right time and I'm just not used to and I just hired and we all know that but I feel as though this is a a very big release for lightning experience where all future releases will basically primarily be focusing on lightning experience and not moving things from classic to lightning but here's a lot of new stuff and it's only in lightning so you could keep using that aloha classic stuff if you want but you don't get this or that,

13:42 Guest: Because it's only in lightning. I think, and again, we've talked a lot about lightning.

Jason Atwood: I do, I switch over to it once a week, it's sort of my thing, I go over it once a week, just to, and we have it in our org, obviously, and I try to do work. Like I don't, I'm not like judging it, I'm just saying, let me just. do work and I find two things very quickly. One or three things. One, some parts that I really like. There's some new things I'm always surprise like, oh I like that that's neat that's oh I like the way that's that's set up. You know some of the the editing things or some things I just kind of really enjoy. But then two things quickly quickly happen to me. One is I find things I just can't work in it. There's just stuff that just doesn't work.

Jason Atwood: And it's not like it doesn't work, because I don't know how.

Justin Edelstein: Not the same as mine. It doesn't work. What if you click the likes?

Jason Atwood: No, I'm doing it likes it. It doesn't like it. It don't you can't see who liked it Oh, you can't see who else like the brand I mean I'm in the feed collaborate that collaborate section on the side of the thing So it's like stuff like that that gets me You know while we're doing this, let me flip over go ahead football Well, let's look we have four blog posts to get through I'm gonna flip over anyway a flip over anyway I was gonna say like

Justin Edelstein: A lot of your work is not as Sales oriented So for people who are working in Salesforce that aren't salespeople, I still don't think Lightning Experience is the right experience. per se. Right. Like we rely on our, you know, our app and the idea of an app in lightning experience is a little different. It's like the tab sets are weird on the side, right? Because they just show them all. in whatever order they feel like they want to show them in. So it doesn't, like, what you're used to working in just isn't the same. And especially for you, when you want to get to all those custom objects that we use, they're not there. So you have to flip to this weird app launcher thing, which takes time. I will say that's load. And then you click on the Arkus app, which takes time to load.

Justin Edelstein: And then you just get a list of... tabs. It's like, oh, okay, cool. I'll go to this tab.. And then there, there's really no I mean,

Jason Atwood: There are pieces that I get excited for when it's usable from a custom object standpoint. And from other standpoints, I'll be excited about this few charts and things like that. All the stuff that I think is really cool in it. But I need this other core stuff to be there. a very functional enlightening experience. But that's 97% of all orgs out there. So we're a pretty standardized org. we have We have a bunch of custom objects, but it's not a lot. We do a lot in leads, accounts, contacts, and opportunities. And then we have a couple of custom objects to do with some other stuff, but like, yeah. Anyway, so let's go. Why don't we just go to the blog post? So the first blog post was by this young man named Justin Eddle.

17:20 Justin Edelstein: Student's ass. Who is that? Stein? What is it you're talking about?

Jason Atwood: Well, we always mispronounce people's names, so I figured I'd mispronounce your name. Alright, cool. So this is the first one. We always do the summer rapid release notes, rapid reaction. That's me. Right, so we do a series. We're on, I think, the fourth. The fifth one is coming out next week. Yeah.

Justin Edelstein: And... It's just gonna keep rolling, rolling, rolling.

Jason Atwood: So that's kind of fun. So we all pick some things, sometimes they cross over, but... So you did the rapid reaction, you basically just read it when it first comes out, you pick some stuff you like. So pick one of these things that you're excited about.

Justin Edelstein: I'm gonna save the one that I'm really excited about, because we'll talk about it during the one that you wrote during financial... for financial services. Because I'll save that one for later. I think One of the really interesting things that Salesforce is upping their game with is the geocoding for addresses. So being able to set up rules and be able to access geocodes for all account, contact, and lead addresses. is really interesting. And then to be able to use the geocodes inside of the API or in formula fields and presumably within Apex to write things is really very, very cool. It's all part of data.com, but it's not an additional license fee. So it's just... Platform enabled address goodness which started like a year ago We're in like all of a sudden Google map would just show up right?

Justin Edelstein: It's like alright. That's cool. It's not dynamic It's just a static image of a of a map right I could click it and it goes to Google Maps and then I could do Stuff with it, but now I've got the underlying data that I could start doing things with that I think is really interesting just to give away. Yep, because they could have not given that away, right? They could have said, well, that's part of data.com if you want geocodes.

Jason Atwood: Yeah, that's a good one. And the other one, I'm not going to mention the big one because we'll mention it later, but the other one in your blog post was create and edit lightning experience homepages. So this is a... This is good. I also think so the ability to create obviously create custom experiences change the homepage for people But I think this is This also is one of the biggest Ideas out there that you're that in this case you can actually assign them to people This is my biggest barrier of entry for right for the actual use

Justin Edelstein: Of lightning experience outside of the fact that There's certain things that just don't really work for my use cases, but the the homepage doesn't work for me. Right. Like it doesn't show me the things I really want to see. And I'd rather I'd rather see the things that I want to see with lightning components that I wanted. This is a this is now a light.

Jason Atwood: This is one of those I'm going to go off a idea exchange idea that's hugely popular with a lightning only. Only fix this. This is the way it should work, right? They're going to say, Hey, you know, that thing a you can assign, you know, home pages to people. Well, now you can. You have to go to lightning. So I think we're going to see, I think this was, we're going to see tons of these and next release and the next one after that is going to be. Within two releases, so when you're reading spring 17, I think you're gonna get most everything's gonna be deprecated off of Aloha, and everything will be like, it's all new features in Lightning. Anyway, I think that's very cool. Let's go to the next one. This is all at blog.arcasinc.com.

21:04 Jason Atwood: Of course, we have Lightning features delivered in summer 16. So Larry Salvatore Yellow. Yeah, yep. I think I got that right. Salv, yeah,

Justin Edelstein: Sure. This has taken the place of the sales one because a lot of, again, a lot of the lightning stuff is geared towards a sales user. Right. So that's why this was written this way. Cause it's really all about, the lightning features that have been released that helped to increase sales productivity. So it's not necessarily looking across the entire spectrum of lightning, but just looking at things that will help salespeople do things easier. And I think the first thing that he mentions, the account autofill is really cool.

Jason Atwood: Is that really cool in there? No, I didn't even see that. He says it's really cool. It's kind of cool.

Justin Edelstein: It's kind of cool. It's really cool. So he did mention and I agree. So side note, it's in beta and what it is basically you, you type in when you're creating an account, you type in the account's name into the name field and Salesforce will offer up suggestions. as to what company you're actually putting into the account name field. And once you select one from the list, again, presumably this is leveraging data dot com. Other fields will auto fill. So website, phone number, billing address, things of that nature that just take time to like go find. You don't know it. It just takes the time out of it. Now, this is the only work for US based companies. And what, what he had anything to help with like having me not go have to go to their website grab their headquarters address parse that into five different fields Right and the website and then the phone number all that stuff if you know it Salesforce and you're willing to give it to me awesome.

Justin Edelstein: I'll take it. So this is a good step in the right direction I think that there's there's more and it's like lightning only correct, right?

24:08 Jason Atwood: R But there's a couple things that are coming into, you know, opportunity teams coming to

Justin Edelstein: Lightning the, you Set up very well for lightning because if you go look in our org like add an opportunity We have to flip our thinking into, wow, we should. We should really be doing everything with actions because then they'll just flow into the lightning experience if they're on the page layout.

Jason Atwood: Again, I'm once they catch catch up off a bunch of little things like there are some stuff that I'm always like I'm now looking at an opportunity and I'm reminded like, oh, I love this. I love the opportunity stuff and the stages and. and the things you should be focused in on, and even the dynamic nature of the way the page works. and I'm like, oh, now, a the a, L all more. the the Yeah, I think it's the one thing, and I gave them this feedback way back when I said, you know, there is a functional usability to seeing things in a grid list view because you can

Justin Edelstein: They they they they they they they Get yourself wait don I had to quit hit the X like six times. All right move on So next one written by Roger Roger Summer 16 for developers.

Jason Atwood: So Roger is our de facto Devhead as we like to call him. I just made that up wrote wrote on summer 16 for developers so he picks out some of the cool

Guest: Developer-y things that are coming in summer But the funny thing is we wrote this so I guess it was published a couple weeks ago

27:11 Jason Atwood: Yes, yes, I know it doesn't say on our blog post when things are published -huh, but two of the things have already been pulled out of the release of his thing.

Guest: So I don't know which ones they are. Me neither.

Justin Edelstein: But we could click on them to find out. Because he actually didn't. Well, I started clicking on them and like none of them said like this is not coming. Oh. Or this is not coming. So I'll pick one of these and you pick the other. So cloning sandboxes Yes, this is kind of cool. So tell me what that is well, you know we know all about cloning because we clone users all the time clone this user shameless plug and Now you can clone sandboxes so a developer can Can create a new sandbox? by cloning an existing sandbox. So if you are, now that you're getting lots and lots of sandboxes, sorry to ruin the, if you were gonna pick that one, you- Well that was a spring thing. You, well you're gonna give it more, so.

Justin Edelstein: If you have this environment set up exactly as you want and there's like an issue or a bug or whatever Or you want to sort of branch off and be like, alright I want to stop at this point and I want to keep going from here But I don't want to do it here because I want to keep this pristine in this state I'm gonna clone from here right a new sandbox and keep going over there right, you know, whatever to doubt Oh And I think that's really, really awesome. So you can just separate out your development environment to a new development environment that's exactly the same and either continue developing, testing, maybe even training really good use cases for being able to clone Sandbox from Sandbox as opposed to always having to start from scratch in production.

Justin Edelstein: Right.

Jason Atwood: I love that. I think the big one, this is like huge, is that sandboxes that because we're an enterprise customer and never had the ability to have full sandbox, we still get full sandbox.

Guest: We get partials.

Jason Atwood: So enterprise now gets partial sandboxes. That's awesome. That's that feels like I just got something like thank you. That gave me something that I'm happy with now because the partial sandbox. But we gotta keep going to the last. this round Which was written by yours true just all at your Yep, and look at that every single one links directly to the really very good.

Justin Edelstein: Yeah, it actually No, he didn't wink the headers though the links were in the post and

Guest: Yeah, they were there so So let's go. Why don't we just this is my summer 16 for financial services. So we do a lot of work in finance services So we'll mention one and then you can mention the big one. Okay.

Justin Edelstein: I love this generate temporary verification code Yes So two factors should be on for all financial services institutions that have any sort of sensitive data Which you all have because you have people in there and not to mention some of you who are capturing financial accounts and all sorts of fun items, so many fun items, maybe even tax ID numbers and stuff. So two factors should be on. And sometimes the end user is like, I need some help. Can you help me? And because I can't get in and I've lost my thing and I don't have my my phone on me to generate my code from Salesforce. pound or from Google Authenticator. What you would have to do in the past is you'd have to deactivate their to fact there, let them get in and then guess, give them a new thing or enable it so that the next time they log in, they can set it back.

30:59 Justin Edelstein: And by the way,

Jason Atwood: This is because Salesforce doesn't do the one feature that they should do, which is backup codes.

Justin Edelstein: Yeah. So this is not all. I shouldn't say all, but a lot of the two factors that I provide, here's 10 backup codes that you can use. Save them in a save space somewhere. And you can use them whenever you'd like.

Jason Atwood: Google's good because it actually tells you how many of your backup codes have been used. So you can actually go in and say, oh, 10 are still available. So now an administrator can,

Justin Edelstein: And I saw it in the sandbox. I was playing around in a summer sandbox. There's a new field on the user that it's a link. You click it. and then you can generate a quick hit temporary verification code.

Guest: Right. That's cool. For admin, it can help someone get in. It just makes admin's lives harder, but better than... Well, at least someone,

Justin Edelstein: If they get, if they're like, hey, I can't log in. It's like, well, use the code. I can't get to the code. It's like, well... Now what? All right, here's the code, right? You can help them get in and you'd rather have them in than not in, right?

Jason Atwood: Yeah, no, I just, as I was going around, I just got the unfortunate there's a problem thing, enlightening. Oh,

Justin Edelstein: You got the bug too? Just now. Isn't that terrible? It's like GA. Just trying. Just production and all you're doing is clicking around and both of us, during the, sorry a recording of a podcast that is less than an hour long, two Salesforce professionals were playing around in Lightning Experience and both just got FUBART. FUBART. FUBART. And that is not appropriate. Like you are enterprise software, get with it, let's go. Gonna try not to. Don't demo everything in Lightning if it doesn't work. Ooh. Hey. Yeah, I know. I can't. All right. You got to throw it out there. You got to get in there. If you're going to criticize some, you got to criticize them all. I agree. I agree.

Jason Atwood: So let's get to the feature. So I guess the last feature. This is killer. It's killer. I've only played around with it for a little bit. So I went into a sandbox. I played with it for a little bit. You and I were actually doing it together. We kind of figured it out within. in. five minutes, but then I don't know all the ramifications of it, right? A few we saw, don't know all, but it's the ability, and this has been something that we've known is coming for a long time, a huge idea thing, which is the ability to associate multiple, they're calling it associate contact with multiple accounts. To me, this is, I call this the merge of contacts and... and contact roles because forever and always, talking to people about contacts, people that are at a company and the contact role, people that are not at that company but want to be associated to this company or this account has been difficult and saying they're separate and this one has a role and this one doesn't.

34:01 Jason Atwood: So this... is a replacement for basically both, for contacts and contact roles.

Guest: It's called related contacts. It's a new related list. It inherits your contacts, which is cool. It does not inherit your contact roles, which is not cool. So when you turn it on, again, this is my sandbox testing.

Jason Atwood: If you turn it on and add the related list to your account, you would see related contacts, contacts. In related contacts, you would see your contacts. In contacts, you'd see your contacts. And in contact roles, you'd see your contact roles. And then the related contacts would be a place where you could add back your contact roles. And the nice thing is they have some different distinctions. And you're allowed to have multiple roles per contact. So it's a multi-pick select list, multi-select pick list. So I could be both the COO and the co-founder at a company and I have two roles at that company and then all of your contacts are in one related list which makes sense. And probably if they were to re-architect it from the beginning they probably would have done this originally.

Jason Atwood: So it solves a lot a lot of issues that just with with... understanding Salesforce and understanding how contacts, you still have one primary. Your contact is so primary to one account that it's not going away, but it takes away the pain of it because it all looks like it's together. And then when you can relate an account, on the contact side, you see related accounts, which you never saw with contact rules. Contact rules was only one way. Now you see it both ways. So if I'm related to an account, to an account on the contact side, I see related accounts and my role there as well. So this will solve a lot of issues. The one thing it doesn't do is automatically migrate your contact roles. I don't know why they didn't do that, but they didn't.

Jason Atwood: But thankfully this is out finally.

Guest: I've known about this for a while, but I haven't seen it. So very cool. I'm probably the most pleased.

Jason Atwood: With this we do got a hurry up though, so you're not allowed to comment and let's make some pics We can do this next time we're gonna do out the ketchup because we're not ready for this I have to get confirmation. Okay in the next one. So let's hold off. All right, so we'll do a ketchup There's lots of other news in the world going on like in the tech world some fun things So we'll kind of do like a tech Cloud ketchup next time. And then we have another special episode we wanna do. It's coming soon. We're gonna do a non-profit special edition. so just talking to non-profits. We have an agenda for it. We have some news around us that we're gonna talk about All gonna be cool, but that's until we get sort of official sign off.

Justin Edelstein: We're not gonna do it. Right now. Okay, alright, do it. Tell me what you pick. I got this for my wedding anniversary for my wife.

Jason Atwood: I got is that the second year you're supposed to get tech tech tech is two year two.

Justin Edelstein: Yeah, this is the the new wave list. So I got an Amazon Echo. Welcome to the new wave. Right. So I got an Amazon Echo and the bunny man. Right. So it's pretty cool. sorry. It's not helpful. So... It can do a bunch of things. It's got a companion app on the the phone where you log into your Amazon Prime account and you tell it what you want it integrated with all the different settings and things that you can have it integrated with. So the log into like your Pandora account, you log into. the sale integrate with my Google calendar and you sat and you sign in with your Google account things like that so start talking at it, kind of like Siri, but it's called Alexa. So you tell Alexa what you want her or it to do, and it can do a plethora of things.

38:01 Justin Edelstein: So it can play music. So you say, Alexa, play the Rolling Stones. And Alexa in this case, it would go into Amazon Prime Music and start playing a playlist of... Random Rolling Stones songs, right? It could connect to Spotify Pandora. I heart radio tune in a bunch of. Which, is like a radio thing a bunch of other things It doesn't tie in table music, which is a total fail and a. Bummer in my case that's because it's just in different worlds I just wish it did cuz I've heard that Sonos can tie in tapel music. So it's a shame. Oh, that's interesting. Which means there are hooks. So it's kind of a shame that this can't, that they can't work on that together. The sound is awesome. You can ask it questions. You can ask it the weather.

Justin Edelstein: The other day, I said, Alexa, order cat food. Good. and it went through my order history and said do you want this and i said yes and two days later was at my door now is that like fun and cool absolutely was it faster than picking up my phone and ordering it a little bit actually actually my phone was next to me but can cool amazon echo fun little toy is 170 nine and nine on am and little it's Well, they have an echo dot which is a different a different thing, but you need the echo to get the dot. There's different types of echoes. Anyway, really fun little toy. I wouldn't call it more than that. I love toys. It's a toy.

Jason Atwood: All right. Mine is going to be a weird one. I learned about this on interview. I was watching this interview series on YouTube. I forgot the series. I posted it, tweeted it the other day. So go look there. We'll see you next week. but it was an interview with Mark who I follow because he's interesting in shark tank and whatever he's kind of interesting guy. And he was talking about how he communicates with people and he invested in a company called cyber dust. Cyber dust is a interesting platform. I would, the best way I can say is like, it's, it's like Slack or iMessage or IOL or one of these millions of things except for the point that it automatically deletes. Meaning, when I send you a Cyber Dust, you have 24 hours to read it, and if you don't read it, it goes away.

Jason Atwood: If you read it, it goes away.

Guest: And you say, well, isn't it captured in logs or on the logs? K No, everything's in memory.

Jason Atwood: So if they ever went in and pulled the plug on the machines, it would all be deleted. So all Cyber Dust are in... So it's a way to communicate. securely, basically, and anything you say cannot be captured, can't be whatever. It's literally just to go away. So it's, he pointed out as like, if you're talking about HR things and you just don't want a record, you know, you want to talk about someone's performance or their raises or something, you don't want there to be a permanent record in the cloud of what you're saying, this is But it's interesting, you might want to give it a shot. Again, a sort of a non-permanent, gone way of communicating that does not create a trail, Which you know in some cases is a bad thing so cyber dust is zero dollars, but they're trying to build a thing He's also in there obviously and you can hit him up So it up Justin at just LC and hit up me at Jason Atwood at Arca Sync on the Facebook where they are Arca Justin Jason saying enjoy those cloudy days Thank you.