Salesforce Summer 13 - Episode #135 of CloudFocus Weekly

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00:10 Jason Atwood: This is the 135th episode of CloudFulks Weekly for the first day. It's going to be May 2013. This episode is titled, Salesforce Summer 13. CloudFocus, we get sponsored by Arkus, a cloud-, we're experts. I I'm your host Jason Atwood and joining me in the one of our 17 studios now with our travel mics because we decided to go to our other studio. It's Justin, Justin, how are we doing?

Justin Edelstein: It's how we did, we just decided. kind of just go to the other studio we don't need a studio anymore because we have these travel mics so mobile they don't we are we are the customer company they do not sound so social they do not sound as good

Jason Atwood: As the blue or mobile these are blue or the blue snowflakes do not sound as good as the snowballs well yeah you wouldn't expect that the snowball is is a higher end It's also bigger.

Justin Edelstein: It's like three times the size. I don't. Know if bigger is always better, but maybe with microphones It is when it comes to blue Snowballs bigger is and then we're done. Okay.

Jason Atwood: Alrighty and do we cut here or do we keep going? let's let's keep going to our agenda to our agenda agenda and agenda for moving right along today is Couple things actually I want to talk first because I want always talk about this at the end But I figured we'd talk about it the first we'll get people excited about it because people I think when just more don't with our CloudFocus Weekly they they you know only say the couple of week pick of the week That's when they that's when they hit off So a few of the dimensions the beginning so we have actually two new great reviews on iTunes I love reviews. Yeah, and I hadn't mentioned them. They actually come one way after another. I think right after our Getting Things Done episode, which from the timing it looks about right, one from a long time listener Justin Withers, so thank you for that.

Jason Atwood: And the other one I can't tell because it's like Alora Duque or something. But anyway, two great reviews on iTunes. Thanks guys, I really appreciate it. So we'll start it off by saying Please go to iTunes and review us. That would be great. I wish there was a non-Apple podcasting place we could tell people to go review us. Maybe as podcasters we should figure that place out. Listen, I've been podcasting since 2007. I've looked, but that's sort of the place. Even the person we're talking today is like, well, that's probably the place you go. I mean, once you subscribe, you can subscribe anywhere, but the place to kind of review. podcast is iTunes. Yeah. I wish it was iTunes. They kind of own it. They kind of own it. It's funny because they didn't try to own it and now they own it.

Jason Atwood: Alright, so go to iTunes and review CloudFlux Weekly. This week on blog.arcasync.com, a write-up, not done by either one of us, but a write-up by the partner who shall not be named, of our exploits. not all of them, of our Actian integration world 13. We talked about it a little bit last week, so this is the write up of it, sort of talking about what we learned and what we saw. So kind of if you didn't get to go or if you want to know more about integration world or what it is or why we're even talking about it, go to blog.arcasinc.com and read up on that. Again, we talked about it last week, so I don't want to rehash that and we have a ton to talk about.

03:33 Jason Atwood: In our basically our all Salesforce release party podcast. So for the rest of the podcast, it's all about the Salesforce summer 13 release. We have some breaking sort of demos and news. We saw some stuff today that we can talk about, which is kind of cool. So let's dig right in. There will be a follow up just for those who are not subscribed to the blog. We now do not one, not two, but maybe three or four different series about the release notes. You used to do one called... I always do the rapid reaction. Except for once, but yes. Once I let someone else do it. But I like to get those. Since I am the Vlog Master, I get to time that up for myself. Easiest blog post to write. No. Oh, you have to read.

Jason Atwood: 260 something pages like that. But we all have to read it anyway. And then you have to digest it and put out your thoughts on it. And yeah. So you digest it, then you put out your thoughts. That's right. Okay. I just want to make sure.

Justin Edelstein: I wish those hand motions could be gestured through the microphone. But yeah, now we're going to do a series around each release. So we'll either dive into a specific topic area. We're going to keep going on the sales.... the salesforce. So down that path. So the each release for sales people. I think that's very important. Particularly, especially when I'm talking about a sales tool. Yeah. Sales moving, moving further and further away from being a sales tool. But still the core of which is, is a sales automation tool. previously known- the- and we'll continue to do that until we get some feedback that tells us to write about something else.

Jason Atwood: You and I were looking over a little bit opening the kimono, you and I were going back over it. I checked the other day about the blog and what we should write about. And since you are the blog master since we made you that. Because no one else will own the job.

Justin Edelstein: I sit on the iron throne. Yes, you do.

Jason Atwood: So, we were talking about it, and I was looking at the top ten of all blog posts in terms of hits or unique visitors. Anyway, you cut it. And three were about Salesforce. So, I was like, I think we should be, you know, be doing a set-up about it. But interesting enough, and even to this, the reviews came in after our big whatever, and we had talked to someone today who was a big podcast listener, and listens to all of ours, and says out of all the podcasts for the top four, so he's like one of the ones we listen to every week, he's like, those were great. He likes those deep divey, like. like riffs where we go off and go into some, you know, it's all about one thing. Well, let's riff on summer 13.

Jason Atwood: All right, let's do it.

Justin Edelstein: All right, let's do it. And we're like,

Jason Atwood: So I... Summer 13. Last weekend I took some time and I read through pretty thoroughly 269 pages of the, whatever release notes I had at the time, was... Very excited to see, you know, we have a thing we say here at Arkus, which is that the longer the release notes the better So we've seen Reel ones were like well, what's that all about? One of the biggest must be one of the biggest we've seen in a long time. See you normies.

06:56 Justin Edelstein: It's I I wrap it release notes Blogger ready. It won't be out until next week. You guys can read it up I'll try to stay away from features that I wrote about, although it's going to be a little little for one or two of them. But it's packed full of the visionary stuff and the core stuff. This is I wrote at the end of the blog. I wrote this is what every really should be like if it's not 260 pages. That's fine. If it's a hundred pages great, but make some of it about the vision and the customer company and relent you know, chatter communities are kind of the highlight of this one but also make it about opportunity splits and make it about, you know, fine grained entitlements on report folders, things that people have been asking for forever that are coming.

Justin Edelstein: So make it about both of those things. Don't, don't go one way or the other. And,

Jason Atwood: You know, clearly keep innovating on the platform. So you're saying summer 13, one of the most even handed releases.

Justin Edelstein: I feel it has been in a while. Yeah. There's a lot of things in summer 13 that, that are, you know, big, thinky things. And there's a lot of Nice little items that are like, yeah, little thinky things. Salesforce, I think he's a principal sales engineer. Okay, so thank you very much TJ, we appreciate it. He spent an hour with us this morning showing us a chatter community that was built out for a. customer of Salesforce. So it looked like a proof of concept. It didn't look like a live board. It was the sales engineer version. So it wasn't really, it wasn't theirs, but it was totally branded and it was totally done up to meet the look and feel and the requirements of the company, which we will not name. We're gonna say it's coming.

Justin Edelstein: Well, it's hard because the company. And it's a really interesting concept. So chatter communities, you know, I came out of reading the release notes saying, ooh, you know, I had like an icky feeling in my, in my, I don't know, just felt icky, like, oh, you're going to get away from portals. And we've spent and invested all this time in understanding what portals mean. and customer portals and partner portals and over the years even a blog post about what the difference yeah, I mean how to even understand what What you want? how to give access to external users to internal data, which is really the You know the crux of portal is is that beauty of being on one platform and having multiple views of it. So the external viewer and the internal viewer acting on the same data.

10:11 Justin Edelstein: And all of a sudden, it's like that goes away. And that disappears.

Jason Atwood: And pretty harshly, I will say like, so we've seen, I mean, again, we talked about how long we've been doing Salesforce, Salesforce Brag, but I've seen features been taken away in the past, right? We've seen things get slowly moved out. We've seen long warnings as of this date. We've seen harsh things as well. I feel like this, but as far as a huge feature set, this is a pretty harsh one. This is like, as of this date, no new ones. Well, I'll give you. I mean, almost self-service portal, but they gave you six months. No, they content slide builder, presentation builder, and portals.

Justin Edelstein: I mean, they're not even... And we saw today the live working version of a community and it just looked like a nicer, more updated, fresh version of what a portal would look like. If you were to say, look at a portal that's like very out of the box, it's very... In the box, it's very boxy. Like the tabs are very square. You are a master of the words. Thank you. Thank you. And boxy. Very word smithy today. Word smithy. And it's very, you know, welcome to 1999 and your portal, sir. Here are your boxes and squares. hexadecimal colors that you can change. That's true. But this is, is more like log into your I'm Air-quoting portal or your community and see Salesforce as it looks today. Rounded edges, nice colors, chatter, which is the big one, chatter.

Justin Edelstein: So chatter inside a portal is a huge ask and this is kind of the answer. This is here's chatter and the portal. It's called the community.

Jason Atwood: And I enjoy it. And I this is what I'm kind of struggling with is because and again this is part of people in marketing. They kind of come up with this. So after you watch this whole thing at the end I that's what I got. I got it. OK. It's really just people. You couldn't figure out a way to take the current portals and put chatter in it. Because either the technology or the code base or whatever wouldn't allow it. So you went the opposite way. You said, we'll just build something from scratch with, we'll make it something new and we'll kind of depreciate it. It's the lazy way out. Like, could have done it the other way, but all the migrations and all that, I could see it being a nightmare. So what they're saying is, this is portals going away, communities new.

Jason Atwood: You. But it did. It was what we always say when we talk to our clients. They're like, oh, portal. And you're like, okay, so now I got to talk to you about portals. Now we have to talk about what your portal will look like. Well, and we have to say the difference. If you want, and when we scope this for clients, we say, if you want the portal out of the box look, that's an hour. If you want a fully customized so it looks like your website, that's a hundred hours. I mean... I'm just throwing in numbers out there. Those are nice round numbers. One in a hundred. But it is somewhere between. But it is very, it's a cliff.

13:38 Justin Edelstein: Yeah, it certainly is. It absolutely is. And then the question becomes, you know, how do I get, oftentimes people will ask about chatter, and they'll see chatter, and they'll be like, Well, how do I get my? Portal users to use chatter or why is that a barrier right and now we have an answer for that I found it very interesting the permissioning around I'm always interested in permission Mission permit the permission or the permission or the permissions around How the communities are gonna work so every? And this is what I got from it and I could be wrong, but every internal already existing paid Named licensed user that is salesforce force.com You know what a chatter plus whatever those are have the ability to access communities. So a community is Profile based so you can assign a profile to a community,, I,-i-------------------------- And you're also, you get community license.

Justin Edelstein: You're allowed to use communities. Guess you a different profile. No Don't know if it's a permission. Yeah pretty sure I didn't see that in the release notes around permission sets it did not It did not look

Jason Atwood: As though you care was the blog post I just wrote was one of things was community done by. permission, so it's one of their big things to ask. You know what? I'll look it up while you...

Justin Edelstein: Alright, well I'll keep talking, because I didn't see that as part of the... I didn't see that as part of the permission set changes, but maybe it's part of... it's listed elsewhere in the release notes, like part of the communities, that you can say... Yeah, community membership. Okay, all right, so that's good. At least they did that so you can put it in the user. It's in my blog post He, he read I didn't read it. Okay, there you go. No,, no Because it's two weeks away. Why would I read that now? Way ahead of you boy. I had her So so that's an interesting way to think about permissions and another thing that was, you know, around permissions that communities kind of breaks barriers on is This was the is the idea and notion that it is not.

16:40 Justin Edelstein: It's not a portal. It's a community. So it is by its nature collaborative. Therefore, you can... everybody. in the community unless you don't want to. So you have to make and that's where the feature of user sharing the user records being locked those down in org wide defaults going to private is going to be very important. But is that in summer 13? It is. Oh, but that one missed by me. I didn't see that. So that's part of these really and it's it's It's going GA for external users. So you can make, users sharing private for external users and it's in pilot for internal. So if you think think about that from a perspective. the perspective making users actually private inside of an org.

Jason Atwood: Right, the idea is if you're looking for, if I, a this gap and we came up with scenario the we're watching it today the which was hey, I

Justin Edelstein: And that other partner that exists in the universe.

Jason Atwood: So it that's not we're just talking about the object still has the record still continue to have that right sharing around them.

Justin Edelstein: But we're just talking like users here. your partners to see every other partner. You may, you may not. That depends on how you want to run your business. So you have to be cognizant of the fact that when you turn on communities, you're gonna have to play around with those user sharing rules.

Jason Atwood: So let's talk about other, so I mean, it is the big one. It's the big, it's the big one. It's weird, because it's the least known, meaning it just. I mean, it's been, we kind of a known as come, they've seen it, but it's kind of showing up. I think making the biggest disruptive force in the sales force. Wow, it almost went Star Wars on there. Chatter went nuts in this release. And that's the other thing is that, while it's 269 pages, if someone is super sales force geek, even beyond my levels, and wants to break down, what percentage? you them are about a certain product. So when permission tests came out there was a huge section about it, right? Because it's new and so there's lots about it. And here there's stuff that they mentioned on one line item that you could spend three pages talking about, but they don't.

19:58 Jason Atwood: They just like one line item. This thing happens.

Justin Edelstein: You're gonna, you know. I mean, there's two more big chatter pieces that are coming out in summer. One of them, I think, is bigger than the other, the publisher actions. Okay, so let's talk about them. So publisher actions are the ability to work within the feed. So as we've been predicting for a while... you've been predicting for a while and Mark Benioff's been saying for a while why wait, what was I saying? I predicted it before we said it because it's kind of like whatever you predicted it episode 103 whatever you said it you're gonna now be able to work within the feed so the use case that I think of most often is sitting on an account and and opening up the feed. and being able to create an opportunity from right within the feed.

Justin Edelstein: And it will respect required fields. It will respect validation rules. It is not quick create, ladies and gentlemen. It is a real deal working within the feed, creating records.

Jason Atwood: So it's literally just a little, I mean, if you break it down, I'm in the feed and have that I can add a link, I can add a. poll I can add or whatever. It's another button. And it's another button and then I guess it's gonna have a lot of things we'll be able to add. It's a page layout editor. And then it's gonna add, right, it's a new page layout, a new type of page layout so it's not the mini, it's not the full, it's a new one. And it's just gonna overlay from the screenshots, overlay. It kind of little, it is a quick rate, it's not the quick rate, but it's a ability to have this little mini page that's now overlaying the big thing that I'm looking at. So without having to scroll down or use the hover links, I'm now adding a contact from within the chatter feed.

Justin Edelstein: It's kind of different than what I thought it would be. So I mean, sort of related record. that exists there and the cool part is not only can you create them from there, but as part of publisher actions comes the ability to see related records inside of the chatter feed itself. So see the chatter of the chatter of the related records. Right, exactly. Sorry. So again, using the account example and opportunities or contacts, you will be able to see the chatter of all the opportunities that you follow, right? That are related to that account. I got a clarification on that one. I think I was talking about it on last week's podcast and Paul Walker, another listener, sent me an email, another Salesforce sales engineer in the UK, sent me an email and said, hey, I looked into it in my pre-release org, here's how it works.

Jason Atwood: So let's get that straight. I'm on an account. You're on an account. There's 17, let's do cases, because I think cases are a better use case. There's 50 cases associated to that. to that account. If I am following 10 of them, any chatter updates on any of those 10 in cases would show up on the top in my account in your account chatter feed okay that makes sense yep it makes more sense what you thought would happen which did you get, the mall well

23:10 Justin Edelstein: I actually thought you'd I was I was thinking and hoping that you would only get the ones you followed. So what I thought is what happened, which I'm happy about. That's good. That is very. It also changes the whole tasks in feed thing. Basically removing it. Yeah, I think the feedback was this is terrible. So it's kind of gone. Totally terrible. Yeah.

Jason Atwood: They just moved it over and now I think the feature is you can turn it off so it's only task created via this quick create or sorry inaction that then will show up in the feed.

Justin Edelstein: Right. Is that correct?..

Jason Atwood: Yes, that's a good I like it. This is one of those that I mean, there's a lot of features that I could read and just go that's the feature I want. I'm going to use it. I'm going to love it. This one I'm like, okay, when am I going to use this? I'm so used to doing certain certain way. Will I? Will I be in a feed? The time I can think about using it is actually sort of a bug of Salesforce, which is the whole expanded, non-expanded thing. Right. So like I I have a whole bunch of chatter expanded. and and it moves my related list all the way down. So, or end over my hovers. So well, okay, well, instead of scrolling, I'm just gonna, or. work. re-expanding my chat tab.

Jason Atwood: I just go click create.

Justin Edelstein: I mean I could think in our org of one place where where I might use it, which is I think a good place for us to start because you have to build them with deliverables and time. Which might be a nice little just... starter just to see how it works. That'd be interesting. For our project management. For our project management, exactly. And then, I mean, just to stand, we'll stay on chatter for one more moment. Well, topics are coming out. And they're different than what we know as topics in our org.

Jason Atwood: As someone who's been in the topics pilot. We've been in the topic pilot for a couple months and we totally ignore them. And I've been in the user... user... Whatever feedback loop so they've had conversations with me. They've done the well Would you like it to work like this and would and I remember one of them being like listen? I took them over to a website and I showed him I said make them like this This is the way they need to be here copy this So they did some of that.

Justin Edelstein: I'm not sure So what are you now excited about topics? I'm getting a little more excited about topics because I'm totally not excited about what is in our org today because to me Well explain those are well they're kind of like an an upgrade of hashtags So they're an ad hoc grouping of chatter posts that get added to an overall page that all have to do with this particular topic, for lack of a better word. So the hashtag is not going away, but they're kind of being upgraded. And I think, you can actually, I think you're gonna have like a script where you can actually upgrade. all your hashtags to topics. And then topics are gonna have their own pages. You're gonna be able to have favorite topics, topics that people are talking about, topics that groups are talking about.

26:40 Justin Edelstein: So you'll be able to see a lot of, I think we're gonna see a little bit of a different version of what we have currently, because what we have currently isn't all that useful.

Jason Atwood: Yeah, I mean, it doesn't have the stuff that I think should... The ways I pointed them to was Quorra, and I said, if you're gonna have something that's... If you're gonna have something that is sort of... galvanizing the idea or the topic of something, is a couple things. One, it can't be slow, right? If you're asking people to put metadata in, it's got it really fast, and right now it's slow. Like, it takes... It takes, I even showed it to six or 30 seconds to come up with a suggested topic. That's, no one's gonna do that. And it's gotta add some value to it, right? It's gotta show expertise or as I showed them in the example in Quora, I said, you know, one of the nice things about Quora is you can follow a topic in Quora and, but you can then put a bio about that topic.

Jason Atwood: So like, you know, I'm on Facebook, I have a bio on Facebook. I'm on Twitter, I have a bio on Twitter. Fine, but it's, whatever. But in core, I have bios per topic. So if I'm on Salesforce, I have a bio about my experience in Salesforce. If I'm on GTD, I have a bio about my experiences. So I think that's, and it's very contextual. So you're looking at someone that, this is what they know about this subject matter. And having that expertise to boil up. So it looks like some of that, not the bio piece, but it looks like some of that the expertise stuff is coming up. a little bit more. Again, I still think it's very, it's like sales, it's chatter meta that I'm not sure, I see, I don't see people here asking about it, maybe like mega orgs, but it's certainly not something that I, you know, of all the things that I hear day to day, like why doesn't this work, why doesn't that work, what's this, you know, having the ability to have a higher level of categorization of topics is not one of the ones that I hear a lot.

Jason Atwood: But I'm excited for it because I love the concept and we as search people love the concept of aggregated search and self-agregating and what they call it, not fractalization, what is it?

Justin Edelstein: Come on. I don't know what you're talking about. I'm sorry.

Jason Atwood: Collecting categories of search. Search categories, what they're called. They're called fragments or... Oh well, it's the end of the day. I don't know. It'll come to me. The name will come later in the... Are you excited about search within a feed?

Justin Edelstein: A little bit.

Jason Atwood: A little bit. I saw that... I'm a little bit excited about that. I don't. Facets. Facets, that was it. You found it. Good job.

Justin Edelstein: I didn't find it. It came up in my brain.

Jason Atwood: And I know the number one big topic you're just head over heels about because it's your idea. So I'll have to bring it up so you don't sound like a total DB by bringing it up yourself. Which is your idea to have permission sets or record types. associated to now use permission sets to assign record type permissions. That took up at least 10 pages, 15 pages.

29:45 Justin Edelstein: No, it did not. Oh, it was huge. Didn't take up 15 pages. It's huge.

Jason Atwood: So I know you've written, well, no, have you written a blog post about it? Now you wrote a big thing about record types, and this is sort of...

Justin Edelstein: Well, I wrote a thing on record types themselves just to... No. two pages. My deal only got two pages, but it did get linked and if you click on it in the makes me a rock star. Yeah I'm really excited so now you can you can add permission sets or you can add record types. selection inside of a permission set so that you can assign those to different users. You no longer have to clone and proliferate profiles in order to just give the permission to create a record type. I've had so many in-depth conversations with... Adam Torman, Product Manager extraordinaire, around permissions and permission sets. And we tossed around just some of the most fun use cases in the universe when it comes to how deep you can really get. And I wrote about it in the blog post.

Justin Edelstein: It was kind of my favorite wonky use case, which is, well now I could... The reason I wrote that blog post was because of the misconception around record types in profiles themselves. People don't understand that all that does is give a person the ability to create that record type or change a record to that record type. They'll see it in the drop town when they... click new record and they land on the splash page and there's two or three or five record types. They'll see it in that record type or in that drop down they don't understand that it doesn't control whether or not they can see records in that record type. That's still handled in sharing. And my favorite use case with with Adam when we were talking about it was, well, what if I give a permission set to a user who has a role that says that they can't see that record type, but now I've allowed them to create it so they can create a record that they can't see.

Justin Edelstein: Kind of a fun one. That is a fun one.

Jason Atwood: Anyway. Features coming happy about it. It's a good one. I mean permission sets not only Now we as I said to someone I said now we did we have some I guess everyone in the blog post again two weeks out Maybe we'll double play it with publish next week. Whatever. No double bubble double pushing Yes, save those throws throws it all right permission sets have gone for something that we Had very small amount to do with way back when to something that now is like, proliferated across, proliferated across all. See, it is a tough word. It is a tough word. All of these different areas, and so like with the blog posts I'm writing is, what's new in permission sets in summer of 13 and what's the new things you need to consider? And some of them are not even, they're like new features.

32:55 Jason Atwood: But that are they're using permissions as a way to keep the old feature turned on, which I found really interesting. So I'll talk about that. One of the new features that's been coming out, which is the new SMS identification,

Justin Edelstein: Which I'm getting a lot of in all these wars. I'm getting tons of them. Every org I log into now is like, give me your email.

Jason Atwood: Give me your phone number. Give me your phone number. So here. So for you Salesforce users who know when you log in from a source that you've never logged in from before after the first time you've logged in. So the first time it doesn't do this, but the second time you go home, you log in, it asks you for a code and it says if you don't, you know, send me my code. And it sends it to your email address on on. Now, the problem with that is, and the reason they're changing this is because email is something that's usually hacked at the same time that your computer is hacked. Because if your computer is hacked, well then I've got your computer and your email. I've basically taken over your life. But phones generally aren't hacked at the same time.

Jason Atwood: Meaning, if I got your computer, or I have your email and I have your... your email password and your Salesforce password, chances are I won't have your phone, because people report their phones faster, and they're usually on them 24-7, right? So the idea is to move the two-factor authentication away from email, which again, gets hacked at the same time, into something that's sort of more personal and kept on your... So moving from that activation code going from email goes to text message. I guess text message is no longer having value. They used to have like... Don't text me. You better warn me that message rates may apply. Right. It's 30 cents. So I feel like they're going down to no value now. So when you there's a feature to turn this on for the org They're actually making it sort of as a I think it's a critical update, isn't it?

Jason Atwood: To turn this fees been a critical update. I don't think it is You're gonna bet you're gonna last a mess stuff. Yeah, it's been a critical update in the orgs I do not believe it's a curtain they're forcing people to go into it point Basically, they're turning this on and making people do it now some organizations, as I pointed out, some organizations might be like, listen, that's great, but we don't control the people's phones, or we don't want them having phones, or we don't want that part of our vernacular here. We don't need this cell phones in our org. So there's a permission set you can use to users on the same, like not being able to use the email verification. And so If there were ever a feature where you need to assign a permission set to a lot of users, it's a permissioner.

Jason Atwood: This is it because I have 200 users I need to assign this permission. Permission to a permission set and then assign the permission set, you got some time, you know.

Justin Edelstein: Need the permissioner, take you like two seconds.

Jason Atwood: So anyway, I thought that was pretty cool. Now it's a neat way of doing, it's a neat way of doing a feature, sort of a force feature. but being able to stay out of it, right? So, kind of interesting. What else? Anything else? Give me one small thing. We've used up some time here. Oh, a small thing. I've actually have a fail here because I was using Adobe Acrobat on my iPad and I made all these in there, but I can't like consolidate them to see where my notes are. So I had to scroll through 269 pages to find some of my notes.

36:14 Justin Edelstein: All right, a small thing. Well, hmm, I have to pick one, eh? All right. How about formula updates?

Jason Atwood: Oh, you're going to do the one that... Okay, yeah, go for it. Chatter on it. Let's hash it out. What do you mean?

Justin Edelstein: Which one?? Well, there's two. I think one is better than the other. You know what? I'll use the one that I didn't write about in the blog post. Okay, good. Because I, I'll leave some for... for the blog post. So, checkbox formulas. Pretty simple. You used to have to write these as text true or false, but now you can just write a checkbox. That fills in a checkbox. True or false. I think that's better than a text box that says true or false or a pick list that says true or false. That's nice. That's very nice.

Jason Atwood: It's easier for reporting. Yeah. There's a lot, I mean, I've seen it, there's so much stuff in the mold. That's a little tiny one. Here's a, they're doing a- Outlook has some stuff. They're doing a beta of Salesforce Touch offline. That's nice.

Justin Edelstein: There's another big, big, pilot beta one in there. Which is what? the sunlight search search the SharePoint being able to search SharePoint from inside a sales force people from Kona search are not happy with that. Yeah, I wouldn't be happy if I were them either. But I don't know how you even get this. I bet it's like one of those app exchange packages that you have to install or something. There were more than a few.

Jason Atwood: Pilots that I was like as I was reading I was writing them down going well want to be in that pilot Who I want to be in that pilot who I want to be in that basically I want to be in all pilots So we love how we

Justin Edelstein: Don't have SharePoint, so I don't really know that one. I don't care But if they had like a Google Doc search Well, we've seen I would like that

Jason Atwood: We've seen that in like future worlds or screenshots or like somewhere that the world is gonna be all consolidated into one search view.

Justin Edelstein: I'm excited about that. One search to rule them all. All right, speaking of things to rule them all, let's move away from our release notes. There's so much more to talk about in the release. We may come back to it in the next podcast. Well, because we're gonna. time.

Jason Atwood: Talk about your blog post next week, and we're talking about my blog post the week afterwards, so we'll be back to it. We'll be back. But we'll probably sprinkle in some of the stuff. And then maybe in three weeks, if you're the blog master, I mean, three weeks we should pick a topic and start talking about it that we're gonna do it, maybe pick a topic that we want to do sort of a deeper dive on, right? Every six weeks or so. Maybe by next week we'll have what we want to talk about in three weeks as a big topic. All right? Yeah. So let's do your CloudFocus app pick of the week.

Justin Edelstein: All right. I don't know where the funny voices are coming from. Speaking of sprinkling it in.

Jason Atwood: I cannot believe it. I can't believe I saw this and I don't know what and I Do you know what it is?

39:19 Justin Edelstein: No, I don't know what it is. It's called Run Peep. Okay. This is horrible. Now you're a runner. I know what this is. it is but it's not. I feel like this is a bathroom finder. It's a app for the movies and when you go to the movies it tells you when to go to the bathroom during a movie. This is the greatest app ever. This guy, this dude, and his like mother and sister wrote this application and the three of them go and see every movie. Okay. And they write down. When you should go to the bathroom, how do they tell you that when you should go like you have to like look at the app Like if you're for example if you're going to see Iron Man 3 which I am going to okay I will tell you when to pee during Iron Man 3.

Justin Edelstein: I can't there are three times Three optimal times during Iron Man 3. I can, I can drink a lot of Diet Coke So 55 minutes, minutes into the movie you can run pee for four minutes, and this is the coolest part It tells you when to go like the moment it just says like when Tony Stark ends the scene at the bar with the line sweetheart that can of my autobiography you can a and then while you're being there's a little link here you can click and it says what happens during that time so they give you a little synopsis why you're being why you're being you can you can see what you're missing Because that's important. It gives you like a little so not a form like what's happening during these I want to made a lot More for this.

Justin Edelstein: It's 99 cents. That's ridiculous. They go see the movies as fast as they can and Like you know, they basically see them the day that they come out during the day I don't know how they see an Iron Man already maybe I don't know. Pre-release stuff? Pre-release stuff. I don't know. Cause I think it comes out in two days. But anyway. It comes out today. Isn't it a Wednesday opener? Maybe it's a Wednesday opener. Maybe that's why it's in there already. But you know, it basically tells you when you can go to base. And it's 99 cents and it's on the Android. and the iPhone stores and you can, oh and Windows. So if you have a Windows phone, for those of you out there that have NC movies, narrowing the gap, people,

Jason Atwood: Sorry. You, you know, you can. Those people who have Windows apps and listen to podcasts certainly aren't gonna be honest with this one.

Justin Edelstein: I think this is awesome. It's like, yeah, here's a three minute window to go pee and here's what happens during the three minutes.

Jason Atwood: It is absolutely expressly brilliant. I am stunned. Two things, I'm stunned it's only 99 cents because it seems like it's just brilliant.

Justin Edelstein: I'm a floor. I mean, even, you know, have you used it though? No, cause I don't like pulling the phone out. Like they even like, they even were like, say like Be courteous.

Jason Atwood: Well, you shouldn't. Like look ahead. Right, that's what I'm saying.

Justin Edelstein: Don't pull the... Like if you need to pee though during the middle of the movie, you could pull it out and be like, oh, why don't you show anything? Oh, no, you wouldn't do that. Yeah, you want to look at it before. Here's the thing.

42:27 Jason Atwood: I go see tons of movies and I generally can sense, right? Just the moments you can sense where you get into that point. Some movies are easier than others. But you know, after a big action sequence, you can sense like, okay, now it's time. But I love about this is because before you go see any movie, I tell you my wife, she's going to buy five of these apps. I don't know how you can buy five because this is like her number one thing. I want to buy this. I will make her very happy.

Justin Edelstein: Basically, this guy, Dan, his mother and his sister on Fridays, go see every movie that comes out. during the day right and then they write their notes and They go home and they push out these these notes movies I think it's fantastic 99 cents And it's it's universal to if you take your iPad to that to them Well, I think that's the way I would use it. I wouldn't really look at so like I just told you like 55 minutes into Iron Man 3 YouIcangopeef that that that that that that that that, that. That's that's what that's that's right.- that's right that's right.

Jason Atwood: That's right. And it's right.

Justin Edelstein: You can't. You can't make it better by knowing that when you know you can read the synopsis of what you're missing.

Jason Atwood: Yeah, so no, I wait- at the 55 minutes. You haven't used it yet. I think a lot of people use it. You haven't gone to see a movie that you knew was going to have to run pee in... Well, that's the thing. I haven a haven't opened it up to use it because I haven't peed in theater since I had it. So unlike you, I'm going to pick something that I have used 50 times. I used them all 50 times last night. So we kind of were talking about this the other day that I the I said I, I was part ofDDDDDDDDDDDD So, PayPal actually gives a discount to nonprofits So, PayPal actually gives a discount to nonprofits. They're the only ones that do, or that I could see. I wouldn't, you know, I wouldn't, you know, say, so that's big.

45:33 Jason Atwood: If you're a nonprofit, every little penny counts, right? So, they give a discount for the trans-f-trans thing, the transaction discount. That's one. Two is PayPal, unlike Square and Intuit, maybe Intuit, but definitely not Square. allows you to not only use this little device, which is my pick of the week, but you can also just go put a PayPal link on your website. So go create a button called Pay Me Now, and people go and click a button and they pay. So that's pretty brilliant, right? That's half of the battle, right? And this stuff is great, but the other half is that we had 140 tickets, 130 tickets sold off the website before they even came to the event. So I'm picking something called PayPal here. And it is a small device. So they all have their own like, So, I'll tell you, this is the winner, winner, winner, chicken dinner.

Jason Atwood: Worst grade you swipe the card you put in the amount you hit it swipe the cart you, then thing they then can choose you want to receipt text or email same as everybody and then it goes back to the next one i mean used it again 60 times yesterday but through the other thing was bought for them the little devices they're actually free if you ask paypal but you can buy them at staples and they'll send you like a rebate So I gave them to everybody else, they all got the app, signed in, multi-user, so I gave them a username and password with different permissions inside of PayPal so they could only do certain things. They were all swiping, all the same account. It was great. It worked like a charm. So I'm picking the PayPal here, this little device Aruni, which is...

Jason Atwood: Free really it's $15 if you go to Staples but you can just go to PayPal the weird thing about signing up for it is you have to have the app first and then go into the app and then request it and then they send it to you but it was it was great it literally did everything there's no limits I asked about limits like what am just someone purchases like 2 grand no limits You have to get good at swiping. You have to practice swipe. They'll shake. They'll shake. They'll shake. It is a app. The app on the iPhone and the rate. I'm handing you. Thank you. It was good. And again, uses the internet. I did all on the what? The internet. To who? And people were amazed. They were like, you take credit cards?

48:40 Jason Atwood: You like swipe. Here you go. Give me your credit cards. And then I have the Paypal app, which is a separate app. Right. But I was getting these notifications.

Justin Edelstein: So I opened up my phone and I'd see like, all the... payments coming in. It's cool how these work where they go into the headphone the headphone jack has turned into not a headphone jack because it has that third ribbon that can do all sorts of things voice and so it all goes in there.

Jason Atwood: Anyway great app great thing I think the only thing I would like is if it fit a little bit more Because it does spin around, and so you kind of have to, you know, again on the iPad, the iPad Mini works great. Because you can see how I kind of like, so you hold it like this, and you swipe like this. Right. But I would tell you, they handed somebody, they, my screen was like... People love it.

Justin Edelstein: It was great. And people like paying through those things. Yep.

Jason Atwood: And getting, and here's the thing, if you're doing non-profit events, people will spend more. Yeah. They got 20 bucks on them, and we're selling these hundred dollar packs of tickets. And they'd be like, oh, I got 40 bucks, if I take credit cards, they're like, oh, I'll take it. They don't care then, they're onto credit card land. Anyway, so PayPal here, great. I'm sure Square and Intuit are great. Again, that out's the reason I told you because it's a dual purpose, that's why I picked it. Really appreciate it. All right, so that's it for this week. Remember to go to blog.arcasinc.com to read up on all the blog posts and podcasts. Remember to go to iTunes and we have a sort of views. Remember to subscribe on iTunes. You can also subscribe on the blog.

Jason Atwood: We don't talk about that, but you can actually subscribe in like feedly if you want. We're on, Justin here is on Twitter at twitter.com slash justedlesteen. I'm at Jason M Atwood. and Arkus is at Arkus Inc. We're also on Facebook, we're on the Google+, we're we're on the LinkedIn, we're in the Dreamforce Portal which still has people in it and talking so we have our own group in there so if you just want to go in there and maybe have a more private conversation we're in there as well. All the great places. A big shout out to all our Salesforce listeners apparently. Yes, apparently there's more than one. Put the links in your chatters. Yeah, Yeah, why is it not in org 62? And we'll be back with more from CloudFocus Weekly.

Jason Atwood: Until then, as always, enjoy those cloudy days.