Summer Integration 13 - Episode #134 of CloudFocus Weekly

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00:10 Jason Atwood: This is the 134th episode of CloudFocus Weekly for the 4th and last of April 2013. This episode is titled Summer Integration 13. CloudFocus Weekly is sponsored by Arkus, you're Cloud Competing Experts, and I am your host, Jason Atwood. Joining me from a long, long trip ago is Justin, Elsie and Justin. How are you doing today? I'm doing well.

Justin Edelstein: Apologize. I apologize. I am sorry. Okay, there was no podcast last week. It was kind of my fault.

Jason Atwood: I think? Not really. No, it really was, because you made a plan to go hang out with a friend while we were supposed to go back and do podcasting. Yeah. You went and ate a donut instead of podcasting. Oh, man. If you're ever in Austin,

Justin Edelstein: Just go to this donut food truck. I'm going to pull up. I took a picture of it so I would never forget what it was called. The donut? No, the truck. It's called Gordo's Big Fat Donuts. We were in Austin, Texas, as you'll soon learn, to attend a conference that we will talk about. As you'll learn? Yep. And yeah, I mean we were gonna use the travel mics that we used last week and You know my friend of mine was lives in Austin and I hadn't had a chance to see him so I decided to bail on the pod and Go out for tacos and donuts. So that is on me But you get us on a Monday this week. I'm just gonna shout him out. Why not? Throw his name out there. I'm gonna call R.I.P.

Justin Edelstein: A little man. Call him Justin's dad. Justin's dad. Happy birthday dad. And now they know your name and now they can find him. I wonder if he listens. If you listen, text me. Tell me.

Jason Atwood: If you listen, why haven- haven't you told me the last 134 times that you listen? He always likes them on Facebook. He does. So there you go now he's outed himself. Yeah. Because he likes them on Facebook. He likes them. Which is a public place. Speaking of things I don't listen to, we have an agenda this week. Where is this agenda written? We're going to do a double blog post because we have two in the hopper that have gone out that we haven't had a chance to talk about. And on our trip down to Austin, what we're doing on there and any findings or takeaways, we have just one of our favorite companies has changed their name. We'll talk about that. It's kind of fun. and then Summer 13 release notes release notes are out.

Jason Atwood: We have taken a sneak peek We're not we're probably gonna talk a little bit about it like high level and then we'll do a deep dive in next The blog post

Justin Edelstein: Hasn't yet been written That's usually when we deep dive right when we write we should probably deep dive next week anyway Yeah, I mean these are just the first iteration of the release notes. I've already read through some stuff. I've been like I don't get it That's going to need a revision. So we'll talk about it. All right.

03:28 Jason Atwood: And then we'll make our cloud folks at pick of the week. Mine was from last week, so it's easy. And I've actually been using mine, and me too. So we'll do that. But let's start off with my blog post from two weeks ago. Which I think we talked about that I was going to write, or we talked about that I was going to post. So, I'll- We knew what it was going to be. Yeah. So I guess I could just give a high level because it is there. It's self-explanatory. But anyway, two years ago, I wrote a blog post about using Google Wave. and scrums and project management. And then, but I figured it had been three years, we'd actually stopped using Google Wave because Google Wave went away. And so I rewrote it, basically saying how we use Google Docs, what the differences are, what the pain points are.

Jason Atwood: It's all up on blog.arcasync.com. I think more of the important thing is, when the wave died, Google Wave, we were so sad. We were so sad. And now I feel like... We're better off. Yeah, probably better off.

Justin Edelstein: Google Docs is better than Google Wave for what we were using it for. Yes, it is. Scales better. It just is. It's better. I feel like one of the best things, or the things I loved about Wave was the inline commenting and the real-time nature of it. And both of those features have been. Mm. both replicated and done better like commenting is better in Google Docs with mentions and Just the comments are not really in line They're off to the side which are actually better because then the doc stays the way it should be threat and The real time is real time and it has chat in it. So it's even more real time So it's even better than the real time nature of having awareness.

Jason Atwood: It now has real-time awareness and chat, which is non-permanent, which is the best place to have a chat if you want to. I mean, I'm sure for some places that mean you couldn't use that feature, but for us, it's nice to be able to say some things in chat that you're not saying someplace else. Because if you write it in Google chat, it gets caught in some, you know, whatever. Some big logger. Some logger thing. But anyways, that's the first blog post. Go read it, it's interesting. If you read the first one, read the second one. Wait a second, I'm going back so you can go back and read. I think more importantly, like when we've been doing blog posts for almost three years now, it's a lot of blog posts out there.

Jason Atwood: But then you wrote one. I wrote a big one. More on par with sort of maybe our audience in some ways. but deep diving into Salesforce record types.

Justin Edelstein: Yeah, this came out of a conversation that I was having with product manager Adam Tormund and friend of the podcast and friend of the podcast Adam Tormund and him and I were having a discussion about record type selection in

Jason Atwood: Permission sets, you know cuz when I'm just sitting around with a beer in my hand at the end of day I'm like, you know what this was on a Friday afternoon 6 East because he's on the west coast.

06:35 Justin Edelstein: So it was like at the end of my week, I was like, you know what? I'll talk to you for a half hour or whatever. And we were just, you know, talking and we just got into this whole mishmash of conversation and it went down a path of record types. and the mystery surrounding them about how there's just so much that a record type does and doesn't do and what it does and what it doesn't do and how permissions are set around record types and misconceptions around what they do And I was like wow that would make a really good blog post and he agreed so I was like you know what I'll Write it and you can link to it from your blog or your Twitter or whatever and so I went ahead and wrote it.

Justin Edelstein: It split into a couple sections, some of the use cases for record types, some common misconceptions which is the meat of what I feel and just some little tricky things that record types sometimes trippy up on. So those of you out there who are doing a lot with record types and You know obviously within salesforce You may want to give this a read. It's it. I think it's a pretty it's not It's not like every single thing in the universe that there is to know about record types But it's there's quite a bit out there, and I was able to describe one of my favorite sort of fictitious use cases around record types and a mishmash of profiles and org-wide sharing rules where a user could potentially create a record, save it, and not see it.

Justin Edelstein: Yep, it's like one of my favorite

Jason Atwood: Crazy use cases because they can they have permission to create and create at the object level create at the record type level.

Justin Edelstein: That then are split off based on criteria sharing that they can't see any records within that object of that record type. So they can create it, save it, it saves,

Jason Atwood: They can then no longer see it. And then it shows them that you don't have permission to see this. Inefficient privileges.

Justin Edelstein: I love it. It's like just throwing into like the blackboard. And I confirm that that was the case and it is. It's kind of a crazy use case but I imagine it exists out there. more than a few words.

Jason Atwood: Huh? I'm sure. I'm sure. Well, anyway, that's also at blog.argaethink.com, along with every blog post we've posted since July 2010. I think it's when we started this. So yeah, good for a good read. I will admit, I sometimes stumble back and forth with, like, should I be doing that at what level? Oh, right. That's right. Record type. So that is it for today. page layout. But they're very, very useful. They're a little bit... I find that when you're starting to build big objects and you're starting to throw a lot of record types and a lot of page layouts, associated with those record types, the old stuff gets kind of like big one, it goes to the section that will, whatever. But then if you have many page layouts. way but Because I find I want to have the name of something in the same place, on all the different page layouts.

10:40 Jason Atwood: But then I have to flip between all of them So if you have

Justin Edelstein: Multiple page layouts on a record, the You can earn an object. You can get the request.

Jason Atwood: So the reason we weren.t guests last week, we were down at Integration World by Actian. Actian who? Actian. Who's that? So I think we mentioned this on a podcast today. One of the partners we work with a lot. Just integration, integration partner, formerly known as Pervasive, got bought a Actually, they were a public company. They got bought by expressly a private company and turned into Actian. So all their products and everything. So it actually closed two days before the conference. So it was pervasive integration world and then two days before the conference it turned to integration world. It's the second year in a row that I've gone. Again, we end up having a lot of clients that use their software, so we go down to check out the new stuff and to meet with people.

Jason Atwood: And eat I H H R R R R R R R R R R R R R of. which is kind of interesting because you can do more, you can get the whole conference like in a hotel lobby for an event. You know, you could get the whole conference, you know, for the keynote or whatever, in a small conference, for more small, so it's certainly not the scale of something like that. force not even buy a million but it was interesting and

Justin Edelstein: And that The thing that There's a bunch of people with computers and you can go sit with them and do whatever you want. and talk to, you know, whether they be support people, product managers, you know, more technical assistance folks, and just being able to meet the managers and the managers managers,

14:15 Jason Atwood: All that stuff is very useful. Do you meet the managers, managers, managers? of one of the executives and it was his apartment

Justin Edelstein: And we He's very proud of his apartment. He's like, walk around, go upstairs, go in my bathroom. Yup. I took a picture of someone. I took a picture of someone in his bathtub.

Jason Atwood: Just saying. Yeah, why not? So it was a totally different feel. Again, if you're interested in pervasive now, Actian stuff, they're an ETL solution provider. They also do a lot of not just ETL, but also EET, so a lot of the data profiling. They have a whole suite of big data stuff. And one of the reasons that Actian bought them is because Actian is in that space. It's interesting that Actian... Smaller company bought a bigger company so a smaller private company bought a bigger public company. Yeah, it's a very weird situation but it seemed to be happy and It was fun. The bummer is I didn't get because I was in a lot of meetings I didn't get to go actually do sort of the same thing with Salesforce now with Dreamforce I never get to go to the things I want to go to because I'm doing the things that kind of have to do as a business one thing I wanted to go to that I did not get to go to other than

Justin Edelstein: That I got to go to really everything I'm Really just wanted to spend a lot of time in that data zone. Yeah, that you got. Anyway, barbecue. Boy, we ate barbecue. That was epic.

Jason Atwood: Go befriend Justin on his Facebook page and see his pictures of barbecue.

Justin Edelstein: Or my Instagram or something. Yes, go to Instagram. Yeah, sweet out of pictures. Yeah, it felt good to sit there and like feel very confident about what the instructor was showing and like when he was asking questions I knew a lot of the answers and that was reassuring It was it was good And and I thought that it was it was good to you know, when you jump right in to a product You don't learn, you know all the all the little structural foundational bits and pieces that you probably should. So this helped fill the lower level foundational pieces of the puzzle. So you wanna hear something funny?

17:23 Jason Atwood: And we got trained for four days. We did two days this time. One and a half. Well, let's call it two. That was two. Let's round it up. So we've done six days of training on this piece of software. Or whatever, it's two versions of the same software. Six days. How many hours of training have you ever done on Salesforce? Formal training. Formal training. Zero. Zero. go. Isn't that kind of funny that like here's a product that we use for a small percentage of our clients that we have six days of Formal training in two years in a product that I've been using for 11 years and you've been using for some crazy number six seven Eight years that we've had zero days Interesting. I mean, I don't know if that speaks to the product.

Jason Atwood: I don't know if that speaks to the help I don't know that just speaks to the world. Maybe it speaks to the price of their training It's not not cheap That's kind of weird, isn't it? Never had any formal training.

Justin Edelstein: No, I never have. Yeah, I guess it is a little weird. Isn't that weird? When you think about it. I don't feel like... It's not funny. Well, not laughing.

Jason Atwood: I think it's kind of funny. But I've never, I mean, I used to program Python and never had formal training. I used to build databases, never formal training. I used to build servers, never formal training. I can sling some Unix around and... I feel like this specific...

Justin Edelstein: Type of requires a little bit of level of training and that's so odd to say because Salesforce is such a behemoth. Yeah, and ten times more. Do almost anything.

Jason Atwood: I think it's just I think it It's theoretical a stuff in Sales is theoretically very easy to understand because they think it makes source target data, target data, transformation steps, easy script. The vernacular is not. It doesn't make any sense. And Salesforce,

Justin Edelstein: When you're learning. Or data nodes. When you're customizing contacts. You're adding a field to track what they like. Customize contact. field, what kind of field, it's all described. Oh, a pick list equals a list of values. OK, one of those. Here's where I add them. It's when you get into a little deeper stuff that obviously training would be nice.

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Justin Edelstein: So now they are. conga queries conga templates conga composer conga conduct And they actually have a great YouTube video,

Jason Atwood: Which I don't,t know if you can see, but it's like why they renamed and how they did it. I'm trying to think of another one. Xerox, you can produce Xerox from this company. App Extreme started and created something called Conga, and then now it's going backwards., they're being named after their product. So we can change our name to the permissioner. It's a doozy. What? Conga, it's a great product. I also think App Extreme doesn't have any. the It doesn't have any emotional pull, but Conga does. App extremes can be anything. My app is extreme. Speaking of extreme things, Summer 13, the first vet, 200 and how many pages? 264.

21:05 Justin Edelstein: 264. This is the biggest release I've seen in a while because there's some things going GA that are like, whoa. 87% of its chatter. there. I'm just saying. No, I wouldn't say that, but it did take me a while to get through the chatter section of the page, of the document I would say, because a lot of it is spent on chatter communities going GA.

Jason Atwood: So I have not read it at all. I put it on my... Let me do some highlights. So give me a couple of things that you just remember, and then we'll come back next week and we'll do a full deep dive, good 45 minutes.

Justin Edelstein: So the first... I mean the first... We'll see you next time. biggest is chatter communities is going GA and Ladies and gentlemen portals are gonna cease to exist so what you know and love today as the customer portal and the partner portal if you don't have one or both in your org as of Summer 13 you will no longer be able to get one. Oh really? This is like a pole realtor. That is gone They will still work Your licenses can be used for chatter communities so there's a There's an there are three sort of levels for the chatter community. There's the internal chatter community fine Those are just internal users. Okay, so that's whatever There's the customer and the partner Wow and you can define different users at different levels with different roles and different permissions and each license type has different access to different things like accounts contacts or read only on the customer side on the partner side they're editable no leads on the customer side leads on the partner side opportunities on the partner side no it's very much custom objects custom objects across the board Chatter, obviously, across the board.

Justin Edelstein: Chatter answers. No screenshots.

Jason Atwood: I haven't seen it. But it's... Even as an MVP, you still haven't seen this thing?

Justin Edelstein: No, I've seen only the videos, but those are very custom. And the things at Dreamforce, which also look very custom. And very nice. The only thing that will certainly change for the UI... For the internal user if you do have a community, there's a new like header. Oh Yeah, put above The current header which is like your logo and your app drop down and your name and all that stuff There's a header above that that shows you which community you're in whether you're internal or inside of a community Hmm or not interesting you can do a lot of stuff with your own permissions like you know what what people can see about you as a user inside of a community and you know there's a lot to it so we're gonna deep dive into it but that's the big boy that's the big one in the in this release is is that And to go along with it, I mean, they just went nuts with chatter.

24:08 Justin Edelstein: There's a feature called publisher actions. Okay. So these publisher actions are where you're going to start to be able to create records from inside the feed. Right. So you can define... All your chatter belongs to us. You can now define... It's kind of like a page layout editor for chatter. for the feed you say okay I'm in you know you have to enable it say right I'm in I'm on the contact tab or I'm on I'm on a better use case I'm on I'm on an account and I want to build a new contact from the chatter from the accounts chatter feet and it respects all the validate it's not like quick create which everyone knows is not so great

Jason Atwood: Because it doesn't that rhymes you know well quick create doesn't not so great doesn't

Justin Edelstein: Enforce validation rules it doesn't enforce require fields anything like that this will this is way better than quick create publisher actions not only can you create and it understands the relationship so you're on an account you create a contact it's related to that account okay you're on an account you create an opportunity it's related to that account. along with this publisher action comes the ability to see related record chatter so if I'm on an account I can see all the related opportunities chatter nice account level knows this is the part where I got a little confused and when I get confused I feel like a lot of people probably get confused because I start going in my head like how's that gonna work right So do I do I have to follow I this is where I didn't understand it It's set in the notes.

Justin Edelstein: It said in context of the accounts chatter feed Okay, they're using the account as a big example because I have two days And I was like oh, so if I follow the account do I have to follow the opportunities anymore? Or will I see the chatter when I'm looking at the account or will it only show me of opportunities that I'm following? Or will it show me all will it show up in my chatter? Tab in my feed if I'm just following the account will it show all the opportunities or do I have to follow all the opportunity? Like it started going nuts in my head because it wasn't it was not explained It was just like, yeah, you'll see related child records chatter. It didn't say whether you had to follow the child records or not.

Justin Edelstein: Because that can be a really nice way to get around the limit of how many things you you follow. You just, follow accounts. And everything's related to an account. Right. Or, you know, for the most part. You're like, oh I can just see every I'll just follow accounts or not. I don't know. Yeah, those are some questions I feel like will come out and the release notes will be updated Couple other things I'll just throw out there opportunity splits Do you remember them talking about this about three years ago? Yeah, how cool they were they're coming They're coming in summer, 13. Opportunity splits, I went back, I tried to find this. The client was asking for them like six or eight months ago. And I was like, I should swear they rolled that out. They rolled it out in pilot in like something 11.

27:25 Justin Edelstein: You're kidding. I never rolled it out. It's being rolled out now. So you can do opportunity splits.

Jason Atwood: Record types and permission sets. I know, you're a big fan. Why are you a big fan? Go ahead.

Justin Edelstein: My idea on the Idea Exchange. The third ever idea. Go in GA. Nice. A couple others that caught my owner fields in custom formulas. That's big. So, you know, we have been writing triggers for years to just populate a lookup field on a record with a user lookup with the owner. And therefore you can then use that, a lookup field to get formula fields from the user, like email, which is a big one. Right. First name, last name, sometimes you want them to split for some purpose, you know, for some purpose and you can't do it. So that's a big one for me. And another huge one, which I think makes change sets really, really much, much, much, just bringing them all the way to the forefront is approval process deployment. In a change set.

Justin Edelstein: In a change set. So I can finally deploy an approval process from... sandbox production. Because you start building out these approval processes and they're complicated and then there's eight of them. You're testing them in your sandbox now you gotta go rebuild them and all the actions that go along with it. It's not fun. there's some caveats about the approval process in... sandbox to production like everything has to exist basically like if you're referencing anything in your approval process that doesn't exist right in the target or get it won't go but that's that's just whatever that

Jason Atwood: Alright well it's not that far that's it does stop there stop there because it sounds like there's 200 and so there is a lot

Justin Edelstein: And there's a lot in the force-dot-com section in. There's a lot in the chatter section.

Jason Atwood: Can't wait. I can't wait to read it. I was going to read it on the plane home, but I think I ended up doing something else. I was going to do the same thing, but I never downloaded onto it twice. I was so tired. After seven days, I was like, I'm not reading anything. No, I played a couple games of Monopoly. You played a hundred games of Monopoly? No. No, no. Oh, you mean full games. I mean, you played like for hours.

Justin Edelstein: Well, yeah. When you're playing and you're really going hardcore, it takes a while. Surprise, that's not your pick of the week. Monopoly. Monopoly on the iPad.

Jason Atwood: Done. There you go. I played Plants vs. Zombie. Like it's an old fave. I go back to it. I've won it twice.

Justin Edelstein: I love Monopoly on the iPad. Have you ever played Plants vs. Zombie? Yeah, I don't like it. Why? I'm not a fan of those types of games. Tower Defense. sense. No, same, I just don't like it. So good. I don't like it. Alright, let's get to your real cloud focus app pick of the week. Monopoly on the iPad. Really? Why not? You just said it. I know, I wrote one down.

30:28 Jason Atwood: So there's this, I mean this pick is like, this is like the third time I think you picked this type of thing, but okay. No, this is different. So you like Zite? I have... It's this one app that I use more than Songza now. It's Zite on my iPad, yeah. So you love Zite? I love Zite.

Justin Edelstein: So Zite is an aggregator of news for you. Yes. In different topic areas. And it can be custom topic areas. It can be websites. You can follow websites. Yeah. It's awesome. So... This is not quite as customizable, but it's got the same field field to it. It's called SC Feed, Center for Sports Center Feed. I use PN. It's a lot of their apps. I think they do a great job in the app space. That failed phone they did, I think helped them get it, just understanding of what they need to do as far as apps because they do them better than anybody else. Okay. It's free. and it asks you, you know, who are your favorite teams. And then it just surfaces all this content for all your favorite teams.

Jason Atwood: But only from ESPN content?

Justin Edelstein: From what I can tell a lot of it's ESPN content, but I thought I saw some stuff that wasn't ESPN content. I'm gonna hop into it right now. It's for the iPhone. and the iPad, it is.. It's universal, so that's pretty good. I, I f- you know, I feel like it does mostly ESPN content, but... There's a lot more ESPN content than you know. Like, there's just tons of ESPN content. They have so much stuff. Right now, my SportsCenter feed is just full of Jarell Reavis news. But yeah, that we'll discuss. It's got tons and tons and tons of stuff in here. You know, and it knows, you know, like I have the Knicks set in here as you know, one of my favorite teams and it knows that they're playing the Celtics now in the playoffs.

Justin Edelstein: So it's surfacing stuff from ESPN Boston about the Celtics too. So it's kind of smart. And there's a lot of ESPN properties that are out there. produce just tons and tons of content so you have it aggregated in one place about just the teams you care about.

Jason Atwood: That's good yeah I like MBC Sports Talk, MBC on my on the iPad it's the one that does pro football talk.

Justin Edelstein: Yeah that's a good website but it's a great have you tried the iPad app? Oh that's great. Is it good? Yeah it's great.

Jason Atwood: And then I use Teamstream. which is a great alerting so I get that. So anything big, you know, we're both just fans, anything big news hits. So it's not like every five minutes, it's only when they do something that is monumentous. So it like, you might get it. No, I got one and it said here's what happened. I mean, it's like the alert, like. If something happens, you get the alert, and, it pops up as an alert, I really like it.

Justin Edelstein: Well, speaking of alerts. So my pick. What's your pick? Yeah, well you're just speaking of alerts. You know what my pick is. I do.

33:34 Jason Atwood: We were down at Integ put on by Actian, and one of the things they showed or talked about, which I, I guess. Prior to Buyer to Buy, they had an app called,

Justin Edelstein: Actian Apps. Those are called Actian... Action apps or something. What's the name of the app right now? It's a Lincoln.

Jason Atwood: It's a Lincoln. Go find it. I went to see what it was. And it is, as a Salesforce user, this is kind of an interesting pick. So, what is a... IOS what you just see my, face what

Justin Edelstein: What the a

Jason Atwood: A I don't want to blame him for something,

Justin Edelstein: But I'm going to go ahead and blame him for something.

Jason Atwood: Interesting we'll talk about that in a second. I just got it. So what it is and now let me tell you what it is and we can talk about that. You might be dead on the right. I think I'm right. So it is a... Forgot all about it. iOS app. It is not a format for the new I... I always, I five, that kind of bugs me. I always bugs me. Anyway, you set up these these, you basically set up, you. based on properties of leads or opportunities. It doesn't have any custom objects yet. And you turn on these alerts, you set up, you set how you set how you how you how you how you how you And you can only get like push notification and email. I don't think you can get.

Justin Edelstein: SMS yet.

Jason Atwood: There is SMS, but it's not turned on. You can and and at an app and at an app goes I eat it's alert and tells you what got converted. Didn't see this in I didn't see this is right if you look at our usage report.

Justin Edelstein: Yeah, it's you and I yeah I was like twelve hundred a day hitting the API about 1600 times a day With an unknown app.

36:37 Jason Atwood: Oh, is that what it was unknown?

Justin Edelstein: That's it. It's this it's gotta be If you look, because every other API called the... Are you, are you looking at the report? Yeah, let's say Monday. It has just dashes on it, right?

Jason Atwood: 1,408, 1,400 and the same amount for both of us and it's just blank.

Justin Edelstein: Doesn't say what it is. That's it. That's the only other thing it could be. We're figuring out our own, our own org issues here. Yeah, it is. So I'm turning mine off.

Jason Atwood: So my pick of the week is pulling down 1433 API calls per day per person. That's just not right. That's a lot. Well, wait a second. Let's figure that out. We said every 15 minutes, a how many should that be?

Justin Edelstein: It's strange, it It's strange, it's gotta be pulling it This is black magic, don't touch this app This is my first unpick of the week I'm, I'm gonna turn mine

Jason Atwood: I'm, I'm gonna turn mine So, acting apps, cool If you have a lot of API Call,

Justin Edelstein: Otherwise I'm turning both of these off

Jason Atwood: Alright, I'll leave mine on Alright I I a the and I'm which just makes it, and it and it was stopping me.

Justin Edelstein: I'd be really, if I'm gonna be a big the big calls but

Jason Atwood: I'm an org with 500 500 users you know how will make them know this how wouldn't they notice if they put this in just a I!!!!!!!

Justin Edelstein: I that,-!!,! Now you've got a lot of calls. I mean, you've got, I'm just trying to do the math. I think it's 1,000 calls per user. So that's, what, 50,000 calls? this app, you're going to hit your API limits in a day if you're not using anything else that's hitting the API. So fire everywhere and don't tell your users about it. So for an example,

40:04 Jason Atwood: Appirio. Thanks for telling us about this. The calendar sync uses 140 seven a day per user. I looked at our numbers.

Justin Edelstein: Conga. If you use it, that's probably a variation. 647.

Jason Atwood: For someone... For one user, but that's one user doing a lot of stuff in a day. But not every day. So to have this thing use 1400 per user is a ton.

Justin Edelstein: So I'm just going to unpick your pick. That's a crazy pick.

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