16 Dreams of Winter 17 - Episode #250 of CloudFocus Weekly

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00:10 Jason Atwood: This is the 250th episode of CloudFocus Weekly for the last week of September 2016. This episode is titled 16 Dreams of Winter 17. is brought to you by Clone This User. Duplicates you'll love. Clone an existing Salesforce user with a click of a button by the desktop or sell those one mobile. Available for free, free, free, free on the AppExchange or go to www.clonethisuser.com which will bring you to the AppExchange. I'm your. Your host Jason Atwood, joining me. See you next time. 250 times in a row.

Justin Edelstein: Justin, I was just going to make a big deal. This is why we haven't been podcasting as often because we were really trying to get to 50 to happen. Dreamforce. And we missed by one. We could have waited. Really think that do you really think that we'll send? Let them think what they want to think. Absolutely. That was the plan all along. You can tune out now. Yes. You know, we're trying to sleep. Hayden. We're... She fall asleep to this? Yeah, I would too.

Jason Atwood: Yeah, that's my daughter. So she was having some trouble sleeping recently.

Justin Edelstein: And put on the podcast. I let her put on the podcast. I said here, I listened to the last one. This will put you right to sleep. Yeah, listening to her dad. Salesforce. Dad. And some stranger. Some guy. Some guy. Some dude. A neighbor. I'm more than a neighbor. Whatever. Upstairs neighbor? I'm an uncle. No. Not an uncle. I don't even want to be your uncle. I want to be your friend. That's a little weird. I want to be the person who she comes to to get her beer when she's 16. Okay. And then I just decide if it's okay or not. Yeah.

Jason Atwood: I don't think anybody's decided whether it's okay you to drink the beer yet. That's so true.

Justin Edelstein: My parents just got me a birthday present. They got me a birthday present. Nice. Which is not of the month because it's of the quarter, but still. I wasn't all that pleased with it. Like, did you maybe get one yet? Well, no, I've gotten these before. Yes. And I've been trying not to drink as much beer recently. Right. Slimming down. Slimming down beers, kind of like wastey wastey of the the carby carbies and.

Jason Atwood: It's like, oh, thanks mom and dad. Well, we'll talk about it. We'll talk about it. My pick of the week will maybe help you out.

Justin Edelstein: Yeah, I'm actually thinking about maybe getting your pick of the week. Well, let's talk about it when we get there.

Jason Atwood: Like last month, I decided to just drop, not to say I'm carb free, but just kind of, watch carbs. Instead of, oh, I got two choices, and I'm like, why don't I just lower the carbs a little? I will tell you it has been. I mean,

03:13 Justin Edelstein: Wait, falling off me. I was going to say to you yesterday when I said I was like, I or two days ago, whenever I last saw you, All I've done. You're looking good, man. You're looking good. Just slow down the carbs. Just that's it. You're looking really good.

Jason Atwood: And I have a tremendous... And you do exercise like a maniac. You're only noticing that because we have Apple watches now. I don't exercise any more than I always do That's how much exercise all the time to me.

Justin Edelstein: That's my nine seven days a week Every single day. I mean I might take a day off my goals, right crazy I

Jason Atwood: Might take a day off to like but then I'll go walking. No go running.

Justin Edelstein: So before it, before you go to a football game, you go running like that. Yeah. Really? Yeah. Well, time to go early. Like six 30. Yeah, baby. Wow. I'm going to go early on Sunday. Good for you. I love running. Aren't you a champ?

Jason Atwood: I try. Well, you did see. I see it. You know, you saw what we saw our thing this weekend. Anyway, we got too much to talk about to talk about.

Justin Edelstein: It's just leave it right there. I'll leave it right there. All right. Let's just say I left it I left it you're going back to it. I'm not going back to it 250 to me. I'll stone what milestone 250 I know I think we said we were gonna do video we said we're gonna do something But I thought it was gonna be a dream force. I really did. This is it It's pre dream for us. We're talking about dream force Thought we had dream force. Let's really like a whole like a hang at dream force and meanwhile now let's do something special Celebrate good times. Come on. That's terrible. That's it. I thought you were going to go party like it's 1999.

Jason Atwood: You bomb on me. Oh, I like that one. Yeah, that's a good one. All right. So we have an agenda today. It's all Dreamforce 16. It's all winter 17.

Justin Edelstein: Should we No, but there's two My favorite things are just retiring. Let's talk about it. So up on blog.art.com winter 17 I Thanks for downloading.

06:19 Jason Atwood: Now move on with your life Moving right along to lightning. So I picked a the I picked a couple things that I was kind of exciting about and the two things that I'm most excited about are the things they're

Justin Edelstein: Is such a really good idea nobody because it's not up to really the sales force and user to it's more up to everyone who is being sent out to realize what they just received and you couldn't really do much with it to make it known what they actually received and Salesforce doesn't do a good job with calendars. at all in terms of being able to send an invitation to somebody outside of or even inside of your instance.

Jason Atwood: I think that's more main the main point of why it didn't get adopted is because people forced to send countervites. Right. So the idea of it, I just did it the other day time from people, you know, they're built into serious, they're built into They're built into all these things now where you send, you know, pick a time that's good for you and then basically you go in and can pick times that work for you and, you know, it's a collaboration thing. It's a great feature. It's just that no one wants to schedule stuff through Salesforce because Salesforce calendaring sucks. So like, that's why they're retiring it. They're not retiring because of the bad feature. It's because the other stuff behind it is terrible.

Justin Edelstein: And they never pushed it I just turn that off at a profile level and the button just disappears. Like it's just one of my setup steps. Yes, absolutely. When I get into work, I don't remove it from all the page layouts because that's painful. I just uncheck the box.

Jason Atwood: It's only on one. It's on contacts.

Justin Edelstein: Well, I just uncheck depending on how many. Right. Doesn't matter. I just uncheck the box. It's like, no, you can't do this. Right. I don't want you to ever do this. And that's another shame. game. It's actually something that some enterprising somebody should go build a good version Like there could be a really good version of request update hint rk hint hint that Allows for an administrator An administrator to decide via like field sets what they want to include right? Have a place for someone to go to brand it properly And it could really work very well. I don't like the fact that you can never. It's such a good idea. It's like here. I'm not sure I have all your information. Right. Can you fill this out for me? You as opposed to like data.com doing it for me.

09:23 Jason Atwood: I feel like the but I feel like it's so I don't know. I feel like it's it's so not. If I get those, I don't fill that out. Like, no, I'm not filling it. Why? First of all, shame on you for having all the information about me. Second of all, no. I feel like there's just better ways. I almost want the version to like shoot off to somebody and they just shoot back with like their big signature that no one really wants. But like that would be the one time a sanctuary to have a sanctuary.

Justin Edelstein: It just sucks in the sanctuary It's like your suck. It's a sucker. I feel like we might see something along those lines, particularly I could see that happening in mobile. Right. You're sitting on your device and like there's a way to suck the signature into Salesforce one or something. So you can read the other good stuff

Jason Atwood: On winter 17 on blog that are saying that calm. There's also another one, the back to Salesforce school by Ollie Rial, Ryle. Ryle. Ryle. Every time. Ryle. It's terrible. I look at it and I want to pronounce it the way I want to pronounce it. That she calls out a bunch of winter 17 stuff.

Justin Edelstein: Stuff kind of. Yeah, kind of took over your winter. So she took it. I let her have it. I wrote about Dreamforce because they coincided with each other. So we needed to really mix it up. So she's level help in lightning. Ooh. Oh, yeah. Lightning stuff. Save a new buttons. Ooh. There's one that nobody. Nobody wrote about yet, and I'm hoping somebody does is how about like top nav coming back wrong and being useful Oh, yeah Not only top nav for tabs cool, but with actions and list views. That a saving steps That's fantastic. That is good. That is good It's side nav with icons, bad. Top nav with words and actions and list views in a drop-down, excellent.

Jason Atwood: Good job. It's a great reversal. They sometimes reverses very well and this is a good reversal. I just I would love to see the team who you know the side nav team who just spent I don't know, six months building the side nav team is pissed.

Justin Edelstein: The side nav team should be fired. The side nav team is like, wait, it was going to look like this on the mobile. And now it now we have no now we have to figure out if we're on a mobile. I guess they know that anyway. They probably do. You know, mobile.

Jason Atwood: Lining in the mobile. Really coming together winter 17 will is one huge step forward to me being enlightening like huge I'm not all the way.

Justin Edelstein: I'm ready to give it a whirl with some basic just basic use cases Like some a client has a very basic sales Focused use case I'm ready to now with a net new org Even without them, I'm ready to go. Well, I would never put them into something that's going to change dramatically in 10 days. Well, I wouldn't do it now, but I would have done it three months ago. But that's the reason I would never do it, is because of self-relighting and they're using it. But we knew the tabs were changing six months ago. And we told them, but they were very adamant. Like we're not using this.

12:37 Jason Atwood: Screen shots, user guides. It's also terrible.

Justin Edelstein: All right, let's move on. Let's get out of winter. Yeah, we should come back to winter after Dreamforce, because there's gonna be stuff that just drops at Dreamforce that we're gonna wanna talk about too. So we have not one, not two, but three. I added some question marks down at the bottom of this thing. We'll talk about those at Dreamforce. At Dreamforce? Okay, that's a good idea. Yes.

Jason Atwood: But let's talk about our three blog posts. Our blog posts? About Dreamforce. Sure. We start off with, I think this was the first one. Have them in reverse order. Okay. Yeah. I was going to do top 10.

Justin Edelstein: Let's do the perennial top 10. I wonder if the band is on here. Very Salvatore O'Lo's. Easiest blog post ever.

Jason Atwood: Copy, paste from everywhere else.

Justin Edelstein: And his number 10, oh crap. His number 10 should really- 250 times. I messed it up. What? Nevermind. I missed it, I wasn't listening to you. But his number 10. You didn't notice that I just read his name aloud? Oh. Well, that's why. It's 250. I'll spend my treat. Number 10 on his list should be in the top three. Number 10 on his list. This should be in like the top three. To me. Dream pitch. So let's pick a couple things. Number 10. Dream pitch. So I love Shark Tank. I know you love Shark Tank. I love the profit a little bit more, but okay. But you like Shark Tank? I love Shark Tank. Super entertaining. Super entertaining. Mark Cuban is going to be there with Chris Sacca, who's a big Silicon Valley investor early on Twitter early on Uber, worked at Google, whatever, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, you go Google him.

Justin Edelstein: And they're going to have people pitching their startups to them at Dreamforce, Shark Tank style. And you have the opportunity to win a hundred and fifty thousand dollar investment from Salesforce Ventures I Think that's cool. I think that's entertaining. It's awesome. It's fun It's what can you do like? What are you pitching? What I want to see cuz I love shark tank But I know that they edit these Half hour to one hour pitches and maybe even longer in some of those multiple hours multiple. Yeah down to What, seven minutes? Maybe if they're the good ones, they have the commercial break in the middle, so they're like a total of 12 minutes. Yeah, they're tiny. I want to see a real deals pitch. I want to see it and I want to see how many people say the uber of in their pitching because bro Immediately shut down.

Justin Edelstein: Yes, you're there for no. No, don't finish the sentence Go I'd be like I'm the lift.

Jason Atwood: I'm the lift for this Thought interesting he picked something that doesn't exist like the keynote opening band Like this doesn't exist like there's no

Justin Edelstein: But no, but there's not always a thing sometimes it's not even a band sometimes it's like that Hawaiian couple like playing the The thing that he plays conch Yeah, the conch and the ukulele.

15:43 Jason Atwood: Yeah, that's not one of my favorite things. That's not a reason to go

Justin Edelstein: You two you two is a reason to go off number three He's running out of things to put on his lunch really guys we're making fun of you Partners shall not read who should only be named once. All right, Larry We're making fun of you know, and now we welcome to a different ever gonna hear it. You'll never hear it Follow him at at some real and you know bother him about other like be like really dude We're many off number three lamest list ever please tweet at him, please and number one is education education I would have said there's

Jason Atwood: One that I think you're kind of more excited about what she didn't even call out Oh, maybe count it out in philanthropy... Nope, he didn't even call it out... What's that? Well, the big philanthropy movement at...

Justin Edelstein: The out thing is... Well, there's a couple. Talk about the one you're excited about. I'm really excited about red. And why is that? They're an Arkus client. Yeah, so you're also really excited about project open hand. Yep another Arkus client Who's gonna be there and doing I just made my dog face where I turn my face to side like oh What bone? Treat that'll be the like the volunteer event. Oh, he did he did say Deborah Duggan the seal right there, but red will be the story during the Opening keynote, or I guess not opening anymore, but during the big mark bending off in special guest keynotes And you're gonna be up there on the state. Oh, yeah mentioned at all I have Very little that had things to do with it But I'm very proud of it and I'm wearing my red Apple watch wristband right now and I'll be wearing it all dreamforce Probably were absolutely I'll definitely be putting mine on and you will from what I understand not be able to escape the fact that red is there.

Jason Atwood: It's gonna be there. It's gonna be big. That's awesome. Alright, so let's move on to the next one, blog post by the very, the much mentioned partner who is well named Justin Edelstein. And well named, thank you. Okay. Big name speakers to look forward to at 2416. So we already mentioned Mark Zeland and Debra Dugan.

Justin Edelstein: So I'm gonna go with I know you want one of two because they're speaking together and probably should have put them next to each other But John Lewis and Billie Jean King are speaking together by the way Yeah, sorry. I know up to go on laziest

Jason Atwood: Picture ever you took you put a picture on your blog So big picture you didn't think that was clever as opposed to pictures of them

Justin Edelstein: Well, I couldn't put a picture of all of these people that I was usually on like there's like a screenshot But then I would have had to like do Photoshop magic Using preview. I don't know how to do that when you say big speakers I think a picture of two really big speakers like literally audio speakers is a quality image for her vlogmas terrible Alright, it's actually pretty good. Who are you excited about? You just, you just gotta think about it. Alright, alright. You just gotta think about it. Alright, alright. Oh, I now get it. I'm excited about John Lewis and Billie Jean King. They're talking together and they're talking about equality and, you know, women's rights and equal pay, equal work, all of those types of things and these are two really big time civil rights.

19:27 Justin Edelstein: Heroes when you think about it both of them John Lewis has been around for a long long while legend they renamed the entire USTA National Tennis Center to be be the Billy Jean King or the USTA Billy Jean King National Tennis Center which is played here in New York. She's really famous for being a advocate of Women's rights in athletics. Yep, and I've actually met her which

Jason Atwood: It's a Ral to Can't be enforced in a row.

Justin Edelstein: Or Malcolm Gladwell. Which we did. Which is a few years ago. Basically going to a TED talk. Yeah. And that is fantastic.

Jason Atwood: Or very brilliant. Or I mean, there's so much. Anyway, so let's move on. That's the speakers. Let's move on to our last blog post. Again, on blog.arkasync.com. Which is actually, we've been doing the blog. This is what, is it going to our seventh or eighth year of blogging now? A lot of content up there. Lots of content. Lots of content., And my daughter and clients listening to us, like basically talk about nothing. I'll fall asleep. And they all fall asleep. And then, but I recently someone was talking about release notes and winter and I said, you know, you should be following the best way to probably get it besides reading it is to follow blog posts that talk about it because they'll highlight the stuff you need to be thinking about. And so a client pinged me the other day and said, I said

22:54 Justin Edelstein: First vlog post because I guess she I Ultimately, I'll write. It then. That's up to how many places we actually are that it actually warrants a blog post. Well, I know that calling this user is being highlighted in the, is it?

Jason Atwood: We have clients are speaking at sessions. I absolutely should write a blog post. Actually you should write it, but whatever. I'm not going to write it. So either. You write it. the Arky people are doing stuff and we have a couple a one and ask me the word disappointed. R.

Justin Edelstein: We actually have if you want to come talk to a Salesify cert Salesforce certified sharing invisibility designer that you that's me I'll be Tuesday at 10 a.m. I'll be manning the security booth in the admin, which will also go up in the blog post coming up this weekend.

25:58 Jason Atwood: So that's it for the for the tons of winter stuff, tons of Dreamforce stuff. There'll be another Dreamforce one. Then we'll do three podcasts During Dreamforce, we'll do our Dreamforce live. We reactions to stuff. We'll probably be tons of Dreamforce and then when we get back we definitely get back into winter 17 maybe stuff that came out maybe new blog post about it. Thank goodness we have so many bloggers because there's some content coming out. Why don't we end up with our 250th is actually not 250 because we've done we've done whole pick episodes shows we've done more R Let's do this hit some picks. I see the one you're picking this is like so awesome so useful so bad

Justin Edelstein: And I was like, hmm, what to do? Football's not on television. What should I do now? So I went to the gym, whatever, and then I got home and I'm like, hmm, she's still not gonna be home for a while. What should I do? I can watch some TV, but we typically watch things together. And I decided the Apple TV and the games and I went into the games section and I'm like, alright, what's in here? Because I have really never looked at it. Right. So this is an Apple TV pick. Nice. New Apple TV. So this isn't on the, it's the most recent Apple TV, the one with the apps and all that stuff. So it's called Strike 10 pin bowling. It's strike the exclamation point mark whatever 10 pin bowling it's free it's from a company I think it was free at least maybe it was a dollar whatever it's from a company called touch mechanics and basically it's like the we right it the remote acts as the thing that you use to throw the ball down the lane And, it's like, wow, this is pretty cool.

Justin Edelstein: It works just like a Wii, but I don't need a Wii. I have this Apple TV.- So, I'm gonna start looking for more games like that. Like, I remember Wii Tennis being amazing. I don't remember really ever playing any of the other, like, Wii Sports games, but the Tennis was really cool. So, hopefully there's Tennis on there, but... and we do have two remi- we technically have two remotes, so maybe if you have like two of the rem remotes, maybe you can play against each other. But these things turn into remotes. Well they do. They think- You're holding up your phone, that thing,

Jason Atwood: For those that can't- But the remote app on this has a game mode. Does it?

Justin Edelstein: I can play tennis against each other. The only thing I would worry about is... flying across and smashing the television. Like, or really, I don't really care about smashing the phone.

Jason Atwood: The television's going. The television's going. I'm just getting new TV. It's not showing up here, but generally at the top, I'm holding up my phone with a new remote app, which I think I made one of my picks of the week. At the top, there'll be a little game controller. And you hit that, it turns into a game controller. The wife uses, the wife prefers,

29:10 Justin Edelstein: The little lady, I should say, prefers the phone. in. to the Apple remote. She uses the remote app on the phone. Oh yeah, she prefers it. Yeah, it's nice. And it's always, it's in your hands. It's just easier to type. Right. But Siri makes that really simple too. But Siri's on that as well.

Jason Atwood: You can Siri it up. It's the same thing, it does everything that the actual remote does. I would've picked my new hardware,

Justin Edelstein: But I think you've already picked it. Which is what? About a time capsule. Oh yeah, I picked that. It's really nice. It backs your stuff up. Let's move on. All right, go.

Jason Atwood: Pick your hardware. So this hardware came about. This is actually something I've wanted to own own for a long time. Have it. Been using it. Been using it. For days.

Justin Edelstein: Do you tweet when you get on it? No. Darn.

Jason Atwood: No. OK. So I actually were here, and we were sitting with another Arkus employee, and I was talking about, we're talking about health, and we're talking about the Apple Watch and how it all syncs. Right. And we have picked. in the past. We've picked Sense with Tracks You're Sleep. We've picked, obviously, Apple Watch stuff. You know, and now, I mean, I'm loving it because this dream of like, not dream, but this idea that all these apps and things in your apartment and whatever, whatever, they all go into this one place. Excuse me, that the Apple Health app, which is actually now usable. And so I'm obsessed with like putting data into it because I think it's interesting to watch. Here's my sleep. Here's my runs. Here's my steps for the day. All this stuff comes in from different apps.

Jason Atwood: So one of the things I've been waiting for is a nice smart scale. So I mentioned it and Roger pumped out. He's like, oh, you got to get the you my And Sinks to the you know, syn that can handle up to 16 different people but here's all the stuff that measures Listen to this now and again how accurate all this is I don't know I don't really care So, it does obviously does wait. Oh god. God this website is terrible. You pissing me off. It does weight, fat, BMI, muscle a visceral fat backbone mass, water, protein, BMR, and then does something called body age where it tells you how old you are comparatively to all these different things. The big ones obviously, prospective weight, fat percentage, protein are interesting. It's just, it's really cool.

Jason Atwood: So I've now just been waking up in the morning. And then I stand on it. First thing in the morning, I just stand on it. And it tracks right to my phone. And then it pumps that into health. So I have on my health, I then can track it. So kind of interesting. And for $60, I mean, it's not that expensive. It's a nice scale. You use it as a scale. You don't have to have it hooked up to an app. It's the Unimy. I think there's a couple of models. There's a color model. I'm using the premium version, which is whatever. It has all this stuff in it. So that's what I would suggest. It is very cool. I've had it for maybe a week, so I've been using it every day. Really like it.

32:36 Jason Atwood: All right, so we'll be at Dreamforce next week. Remember to tweet at us, at justettlestein, at Jason Atwood, at the company Arkus, at Arkus. We're on the Facebook, we're in the success community. Power of Us Hubs groups have groups in there if you want to follow just the podcast in there. We're in LinkedIn or on Google Plus Subscribe and review if you haven't reviewed us. That'd be great and iTunes and stitcher you can do that now And then we'll see you next week at Dreamforce. We'll be doing probably about three live Podcasts and throwing them out there into the universe so you can listen to them on your way home Hopefully get this one time to get on the plane be there And maybe we'll be tweeting out where we are if you want to have an audience find us in some back alley doing our back alley podcasting since we've been shunned from the main floor.

Jason Atwood: And that's it. That's Justin and Jason saying, enjoy those cloudy days.