8 Degrees of Happy - Episode #192 of CloudFocus Weekly

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00:10 Jason Atwood: This is the 192nd episode of last week of September. 2014. This episode is titled 8 Degrees of Happy. CloudFocus Weekly is brought to you by Compliance Locker by Arkus. Capture all chatter posts, deletions, and files available for free on the AppExchange. Take it for a spin at compliance-locker.com. I'm your host Jason Atwood, How are you doing Justin?

Justin Edelstein: I'm coming along, I mean the voice, I think it's fairly decent. It was way worse Tuesday. I had a call on Tuesday morning and it was bad. They were like, what's wrong with you? What happened to you? Where did you go last night? I don't know, where did you go on Monday night? Ah, miserable, miserable place in a swamp. Was out in the swamps. Wow you're out like nothing No, okay. I was eating toast with butter. Were you at the Jed's Bears game with me? I happened to be. Yes. And my voice is actually still not 100% recovered. Yeah, I'm in the situation. So I might drink This whole bottle of water. Copious amounts. All right. Well, we... I take a bio break in the middle. Maybe. Of the podcast? Yeah, you'll just talk and I'll just come back.

Jason Atwood: It's not that I couldn't keep talking if you weren't here. It's that when you get up like... It's that everyone would stop listening. No. It's just that it's... It's... disconcerting and I'm not prepared for it.

Justin Edelstein: I just prepared you. Oh, okay. So I'll have a lot to talk about. Yeah.

Jason Atwood: I probably could. This is an episode that I probably could talk about completely. This is your episode. By myself. All right. We got a GenDai, GenDis, GenDuckum. Don't even know where that came from. What is wrong with you? You know what, I was really tired of actually doing some vlogging, some podcasting. I realize what the problem with the vlog and the podcast is. Because we have vlog written in front of us on the Google Doc here. So I'm always thinking vlog. Yes, we just removed that podcast. So the blog of the week, oh, that's terrible. That was worse. Yeah, I'm going to kill you with that. All right, so we have that. And then really, this is the Apple, the week of appening, Apple, Apple nings as the, Both the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus are released.

Jason Atwood: Terrible. I'm good. Plus, iOS 8 is out. So lots of new stuff. Talk about you and I have actually had, I think, what 48 hours.

Justin Edelstein: Yeah, I think I set mine up Tuesday. Yeah, 48 hours. So they right around this time. Yep. So we've had 48 hours with our phones and

Jason Atwood: We've had iOS 8 for I've had it for over a week. So we can talk about all that. I was eight for 48 hours. BENT GATE! We can talk about it bend gate. What's either bent gate or bend gate depends if it's bent or bend bending its Future or or present,

03:24 Justin Edelstein: You know, it's good my pants. I don't wear my tight pants like Jimmy Fallon. Well, we'll talk about that but first Let's put a little work Into the podcast put a little pin in winter 15. Yes, you go back in time And dream for is this is this the last? Oh, yeah, we're on to dream force Alright, so this is so close. I can taste it. You can taste it. I can taste the smell San Francisco.

Jason Atwood: Yes So this is the last blog for winter 15, which is Not even hit us yet. So, but you should be reading up on these. Go to blog.arcasync.com. The last one is entitled, entitled, New Features in Weter 15 for Work.com. So, we are, as we have probably talked about, we are Work.com users. Meaning it is a, I just made another badge the other day. Awesome. I will say we're more into the badging at this point. We're, we're doing the slow roll, which is what we're sleeping. Yeah. We're badging. We're going to pilot the, what are we piloting goals and metrics?

Justin Edelstein: And metrics in the fourth quarter, fourth quarter. And, we're going to do it as a, as discussion, talk to them. And then once, And, you know, once we try and get ourselves into the enhanced goals pilot, right? Which we'll talk about in a second. We're gonna, we're gonna roll that into the actual system and then manage it from there. So this, this blog post is all

Jason Atwood: About, the new features in winter 15 for work.com there are a few, why don't we pick? Two one for you one for me and talk about them I think since you've already started into the enhanced gold pilot watch the one I'm most excited about because

Justin Edelstein: As as someone who's used work.com and has done work.com projects the interface for work.com is not a Salesforce interface, so it gets a little confusing and it gets a little Particularly for people who are It's got a web 2.0 friendly look and feel to it. Are we on web 3.0 or 4.0 at this point?

Jason Atwood: I just stopped at 2.0. I think we're on it. I don't wanna be on 2.0. I feel like we should be moving beyond it. Where do you think Salesforce is? I think they're above 2.0. I don't think so. It wasn't 2.0 about search and social. There's a lot about like.

Justin Edelstein: Drop a scripty Ajax stuff.

Jason Atwood: I guess, I guess there's nothing really beyond, I guess HTML5 is kind of like Web 3.0. Let's go with that. So anyway,

Justin Edelstein: Goals and metrics inside of work.com, the way that they look and act and feel and the way you can report on them, they're not. quite salesforce So the enhanced goals which is in pilot kind of takes goals and metrics and turns them into more of a salesforce platform real thing with custom fields and page layouts and Better reporting is real well Not that it isn't real now, it's just becoming more real, more Salesforce, more force Salesforce one or force.com. However you want to say it. And I'm excited about, I think, cause I think goals and metrics are really, really powerful, especially when you're running your whole business in Salesforce. And you get to tie the metrics to reports inside of Salesforce. That's extremely, extremely powerful. If you have a sales. All that you, you can just tie it to the surprising when you work with work.com today that you can't do some of the things that you'd.

07:45 Justin Edelstein: Normally take for granted, like at a field, like show up in the interface.

Jason Atwood: I will say it's one of the, one of the things about work.com that is probably surprising to those who haven't used it yet in any sort of real way, is that it is- I'll wait for this. I feel like they usually take longer time and put a small set of features in and then sort of add. I feel like they usually take it, rebuild it. put it in Salesforce with a tiny set of features and then build the features and keep going building, building, building. It always starts content felt this way to me.

Justin Edelstein: Okay. Ideas did not ideas felt native, native, but content didn't. And that's true. And this is even more, this is beyond where content was, because content didn't have any APIs when it launched. Now at least work is available. You can work with work.com objects in workbench. How about that? A lot of work. It's a lot of work. You can add fields and do work for rules or triggers or formulas to round into other fields for reporting purposes because reporting is kind of challenging with COM. I just want to say you're saying challenging It's almost like they've they took this product and they plopped it in.

Jason Atwood: Without Really thinking about I think there was four total on the bottom of this one and related content. So rapid sales teams, service enhancements, and then finally the new features. So all the good news. including our podcast, I did it again. We then, went over these things, all linked in blog.arcasync.com. Go there and enjoy Be Merry. Speaking of merry, you are holding your phablet in your hand. We'll be right back to you. It's like, I don't know, doing something that you do it once. If you've done once, you don't need to do it again. So we have lots of Apple-y news, and we even have a little tie-in to Salesforceian news. So we'll kind of tie that in. Justin's looking at the thing, and he doesn't know where it is. That's fine.

12:11 Jason Atwood: I don't care. He knows what I'm talking about. I know what you're talking about. about... So should we talk about the OS? What's on with the OS first? Okay, iOS 8. I'm just really good at it. Because did you have it on your old device first? I had it on my iPad.

Justin Edelstein: Okay. And then I knew I was getting the phone. So I updated. the phone the night before just so when I restored it, it would restore it to iOS 8.

Jason Atwood: Although you don't have to do that. Amazingly enough, I restored from... The whites, I restored from her iOS 7 into iOS 8. Oh,

Justin Edelstein: I would have known that. I would have done that because I plugged it into the machine, to the computer for the first time ever. Didn't like it. It just started syncing apps over that I'd ask you know it didn't It just started going oh Oh, I was like stop yeah, and then the photo the whole photo thing was a mess I didn't enjoy that experience. I like not plugging this into things.

Jason Atwood: Yeah except for when the updates 5.6

Justin Edelstein: Megabits in So I'm not ultra familiar with like everything. I've started to notice some things that I really like. I don't know. This is where the hardware and the software is going to have to come to a bit of a across here. I don't know if your does yours work in landscape like at all.

Jason Atwood: Some apps working landscape but it does not work like yours like six plus. Yeah. Does like my home screen will go to landscape as fabwit. Well, yeah, fine.

Justin Edelstein: I don't think that's all that's spectacular. But male in landscape is awesome because I'm used to working on my iPad mini in landscape And to me it's a very very View of the universe so is it the exact same landscape? Yeah, I mean show you so yes It's the exact same Experience as working inside of your iPad mini right which I'm very familiar with And the keyboard is really a good size and when you're what you can see it when you're holding it In the landscape mode, the thumbs are very able to type on that very nice large keyboard in all sorts of nice little shortcuts on it also.

Jason Atwood: So let's talk about some of the iOS 8 specific things. I'm actually going to use, this is sad, I'm going to use the... There's an app that they throw on your thing. I'm going to... Hey, just throw that on there. I think the big thing to me is that Apple, again, there's two post-Steve Jobsian things I think are going on. One, I don't think Steve Jobs would ever release two sizes of a phone. I feel like he would just say, nope, here's the size that everybody wants. This is the right size. This is the right size. But the second is that there's, there's a lot of integration of third party apps. and And that's where I've been seeing the most fun. So one of them is in the today view. You can now have all these other apps included inside it inside of your today view that bring in all sorts of new functionality.

15:20 Jason Atwood: Oh, that's nice. Which is really nice, including Dropbox, including CBS. How do I decide what I want in there? It's at the bottom, you just click on edit.

Justin Edelstein: So now I'm going to learn a lot. You are. You're going to learn a lot. 10 minutes, I feel.

Jason Atwood: So that's one. And then the second one is when you're sharing things. That's fantastic. When you're sharing things now, you can now customize what's in the share. So like I have in my share now two new things Evernote and OmniFocus so I can share directly into OmniFocus or Evernote right from the share. There's lots of other stuff. I'll tell you the one that's really fun that everybody's got to try. It's really not meant for, it's meant for the car, but it's incredible not in the car. And I was showing my daughter the other day, she left. So when you have your phone, when you have, we don't have one plugged in here. That's too bad. But if you have one of these things plugged in, there's a feature called Hey Siri. So you can have the device plugged in, and once it's plugged in, you turn on the feature, and then basically, it's always listening.

Jason Atwood: BAnd you can just say, Hey Siri, and she pops up. You're going to be 10 feet away. She pops up. But you need to have plugged into this thing? You just need to have it in power. Because basically if you think about what she's doing she has the mic going the entire, time

Justin Edelstein: Cuz meant for the car you're driving the car and you're like Hey, Siri, what's the other day because I was in my car. Yep, and I I use I do use Siri to Get me to places because I have all my contact addresses in their address books Let me explain how you use it tell me so you turn on the feature under Siri.

Jason Atwood: Yeah, it's under Siri some Somewhere under the preferences under Siri. I'm going to do all this as you're telling me. Excellent. This is an exciting podcast for most people. But then you can literally just use her name and say, hey Siri. And she picks up and she says yes. And then you can tell her to do things. Now, of course, Siri is more advanced now. She'll do, she can do movie times. She can do all sorts of other things. She can launch apps. She can do sports scores and things like that. but hey Siri to me is is the future. So again, remember we talked about, we talked about the Apple Watch? I'm like, this is where the future, this is Star Trek world where, you know, that your computer is listening and you can talk to them and it'll do stuff for you and it does it smart.

Jason Atwood: Hey Siri, what's the weather out? And she just speaks back the weather. I was, I know it's a weird use case. Do you wanna cast her? No, you need to have it plugged in well. I was gonna go grab a plug no no no you don't want You know it's awesome.

Justin Edelstein: I just did that thing with the today view and I added and it's showing me my fantasy scores Yeah, I was showing you that one when you looked away.

Jason Atwood: Yeah, oh, that's good. I love that So it's an app specific thing so the apps have to write it for it, so All right. Not every app had it. I'll tell you one of the neat ones. There's a couple neat ones. Kindle is nice because it'll tell you what you don't read. But if you read, my wife loves this because it'll tell you exactly where you were and you can just hit it and go right to where you were in the book, which is nice. OmniFocus obviously for me. Evernote has a nice one. But actually apps, they have to write the apps to do this. So I see ones down here for New York Times, Weather Channel, Instapaper, Huffington Post, Dropbox. box. Tons of them. one for American. I don't fly American very much, but if Delta had one and told me that I'm coming from.

18:32 Jason Atwood: Yeah, I saw the American. I didn't see Delta. So other features, search is now global. not only if you search for something. I have found search to be slow. Slower, not performing. I think there's a, there's a, there's a, Is there an index issue going on here? I think there's an index issue to start, but then it's gotten faster for me over the last couple of days. Please. But it'll show you like movies, you can search for movie times. It searches the, basically searches the web. So if you search for something, it's not just gonna give you results, whatever, it'll give you web results as well. Let me just look up one other, let's see, one other cute, fun things. I don't know, I was going through all these with my daughter the other day.

Jason Atwood: She was really interested. She was like, what are all the new features?

Justin Edelstein: What can you do? You could, you, they got the camera. I guess is that a hardware thing you can do the the Time-lapse and the selfies on a timer.

Jason Atwood: There's all this stuff either stuff in camera There's stuff on the top like when you get notifications you can now respond to them right in the top I don't have to go into that's nice fan of that How about the favorite people thing? the favorite people thing, if you double tap, you You can add and delete people to it. And you can send your notifications. My favorite feature actually.

Justin Edelstein: I haven't figured that out. How to rename that conversation.

Jason Atwood: Well, you go to details at the top. And then it's at the top. Well, this is a one-on-one, but my favorite is that you can go down and see all the pictures that people have sent. And you're fantastic. But I mean, it literally goes back as far as time. When when you're talking about a thread so like in a like a texting thread you can go find the picture people sent you So you don't have to go like zoom up zoom up zoom up I think it also makes it easier to delete so like here's this one that you sent to me I can delete it out of the thread therefore saving

Justin Edelstein: Saving space so I just renamed a little group chat that we grab here. Yep together. Yes I probably named it the same thing. So oh, so it doesn't it doesn't flow through to you

Jason Atwood: No, funny enough, I have it named the same thing. So it's kind of neat for if someone, if someone does all hate all, well, that came through. I don't know if that was a bunch of a do not disturb.

Justin Edelstein: I might be on your list of people that come through. Oh,

Jason Atwood: Maybe do not disturb or something.

Justin Edelstein: Anyway, bunch of news features. Oh, did you rename it? Because now it's renamed. See, that's the way it should. Oh, then it does work that way. Oh, that's the way it should work. Oh crap. Crap. app works. It should be named by the group at large, not by one person. I understand, but I had not known that, so I

21:43 Jason Atwood: Might have named something if like two friends were emailing or whatever, I might have named it something inappropriate thinking, oh, I'm naming it something funny. And then they saw it. But you just did. Right.

Justin Edelstein: Yes, I don't mind. No, that's funny Alright, so you didn't rename it you saw what name I gave it Oh, I had to go in and put a name in it Oh and then once you renamed it it got renamed over here

Jason Atwood: Alright, so let's move beyond I was eight because they always tie these things together because then the iOS has a bunch of stuff in It and right then the phone so We also have two new phones. We, for the first time ever, have split, well I guess there's always one phone available, I guess we always have different colors. And you have gotten the iPhone 6 Plus and I have gotten the iPhone 6. I'd like to hear, because I've not actually talked to you about it, I'd like to hear about your impressions.

Justin Edelstein: Well I take off my jacket. So far, so far so good. It's taking a little getting used to. holding it in my hand and Having it not fall out of my hand. I haven't all it is I haven't dropped it yet And I think I've got this this situation here with my pinky where I'm kind of clutch of bottom Where I think I've got it all figured out Typing on it. It's great I have yet to really like leverage the whole double tap of the home screen or the home button to have the size of things. Yep. Which I think once I master or think through doing that, it will even just maybe become a little bit more. usable or yeah, like useful. I really love just the whole notion of things aside work in landscape because I'm very used to my iPad mini working in landscape and just question for you now.

Jason Atwood: So to me, this is a tweener and that. If I didn't have an iPad mini, I'd be much more interested in the plus. Because I feel like I could watch videos on the plus. I could definitely watch it. You definitely could. The screen is absolutely awesome. But I feel like it looks too big to do the stuff I want to have in my phone, which is I want it to constantly round me. I want to run with it. I want to basically have it with me in every little pocket on the planet. It fits in my pocket.

Justin Edelstein: It fits in jacket pockets. Like suit jacketsagascar.com, the inside pockets. It fits. I've tried it. I just ordered, as a matter of fact, I think it's arrived today. The running thing for my arm. Which way did you get? By what company? It's one from Ama- I think it's the one that you had for your iPhone 5S. Okay. One that like, it kinda like clips on. Like it doesn't slide into like a piece of plastic. Okay, it just slips into the rubber. It's like a hard rubber kind of thing. Like I think it goes in and then you clamp it on. No. Maybe it has a piece of rubber. One I had was just a rubber. It just sits in a rubber shell. It doesn't have a piece of plastic. Front thing. The front thing.

24:48 Justin Edelstein: Mmm. So whatever You know what? I'm really I think at the moment it's a little overwhelming the size of it, but I have a feeling that because I Just as soon as I brought it home and I was switching between When I had this one in my hand and then I had the 5s in my hand and I was sort of transferring I went back to the 5S and I was like... Immediately, I was like, too small. Yeah, like almost... It was like within two hours, it was just... Nope, this thing will not cut it any longer. And I didn't even have it on anymore, I was just factory restoring it. Right. So I can get rid of it. And the five S. The five S. Yeah. I was just like, nope. Like this thing's too small immediately.

Justin Edelstein: And it was, I was like, yeah, I feel, it made me feel really a lot better about it. I think just landscape is fantastic. I do like working in landscape mode. I very rarely, if ever, actually. Talk on the phone using the phone like holding. Oh, that's true my ear So like the fact that it's that big it doesn't really bother me because I'm often like Talking using the headphones. Yep, and the fact that they took the sleep button and moved it to the right hand side for the thumb to hit was a nice ergonomic or I don't know whatever you would call that. That's a good one because ergonomic. I try out of habit to just go up to the top and I can't reach it. Like my hands not big enough. I have to like sort of slide my hand up.

Justin Edelstein: But just holding it in a normal way, I can hit this button no problem. So, so far so good. As far as like the whole bendy thing, I don't think that's gonna be a problem for me Because I don't wear, wear tight pants, and I'm not gonna try

Jason Atwood: To bend it Like other people are trying to do. Let's explain what that is. Go ahead. So there's been You know like anything that what comes out when 10 million people buy anything Right 10 million phones were sold in the first whatever three days five days. 10 minute 10 the power button is on the side and basically pressing it and then bending it and he literally puts a nice big, not like, doesn't turn into a boomerang but a little bend in it. Ofl of course like anything on the internet it becomes, oh my bend gate bend gate, you know, it's an antenna gate all over again. then of course someone else comes out and says We actually have been saying this before. There's an article that Gizmodo posted. They're like, yeah, here's the article we posted about the iPhone 5S and people sitting on it and it bending.

27:54 Jason Atwood: And here's the one that shows every, every phone that's bigger than whatever being bent in half. Yeah, that's the kind of what happens when things get big. Yeah, I'm not... I mean, I think it's funny. Apple, I think, had to come about and said they're going to replace anything. They get bent, and they'll expect it. If you didn't just do it yourself just for the heck of it, they will give you a new one. Reverb. A refurb one. So my impression so far...

Justin Edelstein: Well, yeah, yours is a different size than yours used to as well.

Jason Atwood: I will say, I feel like there's a human nature thing going on here that whatever you have... you get used to. Right? It's like I used to say with commuting. So I used to have a long commute for me an hour commute each way. And that used to be long. And then as soon as I left the long commute, and went to like a 30 minute commute 35 minute commute, I looked back at the hour commute, and I was like, I can't believe I ever did that. And when I went from a 35 minute commute to like a 25 minute commute, I went, how could I ever do that? And I went to like I walked to work and took 15 minutes. How could I ever, you know, like I just got used to whatever it was I was doing.

Jason Atwood: So I'm convinced that if the phone came out and it were this big,

Justin Edelstein: I'm now holding up the iPad. You're holding your iPad and then you're in your hand.

Jason Atwood: I think what we would all say is, it's fine. I can't even imagine having a phone smaller than this ever again. I actually I think I'm the only person on the planet. I love the, I love the screen, I love the size. I like the, I mean, the feel of it, the rounded corners, I feel like really just slick. And it feels like a four S remember that forest had that rounded back.

Justin Edelstein: I think this actually to me is it's so close to the original. Yeah, like, because this is rounded, the original it's rounded the back is different. Like it's not glass, right?

Jason Atwood: I I wasn just didn't seem to give me any value.

Justin Edelstein: What's the value of glass? The only thing you could do is break. Right. Or scratch. Yeah.

Jason Atwood: But so I don't, I maybe it's just weird. Over the last 24 hours, I've traced 24 hours ago, I was posting or tweeting saying, I might be the only guy if they just made the five s but in this one after meaning the same rounded in the new, new A7, A8, whatever, and iOS 8, I would have Are we happy? We did both get bigger iPhones, meaning the actual memory. So one of the things that I'm excited about, which has nothing to do with the phone, is that we have 64 gigs. And after going from 16 to 64 on the iPad mini, I can never go back. No. And I'm actually happy because I didn't have a 32 option, which we would have gone for. Yeah, probably. I'm glad we didn't because now they match.

Jason Atwood: Like, so now I, if I remember downloading something, I used to think, oh, wait, that's going to download my phone and blow it up. But now I'm like, no, it's fine. But I don't know if it's really made my life better. Why am I watching a video here? I couldn't get to load on my iPad mini, which I normally would have done and walked in watching my iPad mini. And I was kind of like, oh, it's actually not a terrible experience watching a little video on the 6th. So I would do this exercise.

31:20 Justin Edelstein: Not that one stop doing that things are moving it's not good. That's right In a weekBILITIES But I took the phone.

Jason Atwood: But I just ran a long race with my 5S. And having it bang around on my shoulder for the entire time,

Justin Edelstein: I remember thinking, is this thing, this bigger thing, going to be bigger, and I'm not going to want it to bang around on my shoulder the entire time? Wait until you have the watch, and then you have both of them moving around on you.

Jason Atwood: Well, then maybe you put the watch on and you put this on a bat.

Justin Edelstein: Yeah, you just- You just strap it to the- Strap it to your leg. And what are you at? 92%. Oh, you haven't been using it all day. for half a day. But I think that's interesting. That is your home and lock screen. iPhone,

Jason Atwood: Phone, audio, that means I was on a big phone call today. It was on a call for two and a half hours. I think that's great. There is lots and lots and lots of new stuff in the iOS. It is really nice. But here's the big wah wah. Yesterday, Apple put out an R update, 8.0.0, which I read about and then immediately go ahead and never had a problem. and then I put my phone. I wasn't even paying attention. I wasn't paying anybody because I wasn't reading on the interwebs and it says you updated to 8.0 8.0 and you have the new phones your cell phone stopped working? No service. Touch ID stopped working. Get out! So I had to go I had to go restore back to. My to eight version, which wasn't a terrible process.

34:27 Jason Atwood: It was about 30 minutes because you had to download two gigabyte file. File and then restore the phone from from iTunes. Anyway, a little bit on the hey Apple little bit on the testy testy. Yeah, not so much on the releasey-leasy.

Justin Edelstein: So I didn't update this thing. No, they pulled it quickly.

Jason Atwood: Oh, it's not even Speaking of testing, so, I went in because our new application that we shall not talk about, but we, of course. Of course. being mobile first. It is in its way, on its way into the world of Salesforce. It's in the queue. It's in the queue. So I went into Salesforce One and I said, oh, I want to go check out some stuff in Salesforce 1. Salesforce 1 works. I will say certain apps. have not, this isn't even what we're gonna talk about in a second, certain apps act a little funny. Like they don't exactly, they kind of like, they move and then move again or something. So I think a lot of people have to do a little bit of work to get it to work on the new screen size.

Justin Edelstein: Yes, that is true. Especially on this thing. You can tell it just upsides itself. It goes, all right, yeah.

Jason Atwood: So you went and probably tried to do the same thing. What happened when you went in Salesforce one? It just had it hung. s it hanged, hanged.

Justin Edelstein: It wouldn't let me pass the Salesforce one screen. It got me so angry that I tweeted about it. That's how angry I was. That's pretty angry. I'm favorited and retweeted and all this other junk. And then. This morning I got even more angry, so I opened up a ticket Mmm, and the guy got back to me real quick and was like yeah, we have a lot of people seeing that issue Can you try two things one try it on the web browser and that worked okay? Thanks That's gonna work, and then he said delete it uninstall it and then re-download it from the app store.

Jason Atwood: And that worked. Oh, it did. It solved it. Solved. Oh, okay. So it wasn't a total fail. Well, yeah, I mean,

Justin Edelstein: It didn't load until I reinstalled Salesforce 1. Okay. And then once I reloaded, just re-download it from the app store. Thank you for watching.

Jason Atwood: Salesforce one loaded up. See, funny enough, it wasn't on mine. You look at me quizzically and say, why wasn't it on your phone? Because I remember I was trying to get it ready to get everything off of it. So I was just deleting apps that I knew that I really drop box. Like anything that doesn't have anything stored on my device, meaning I tell cloud based, I'm just going to delete it, get rid of it. So I was deleting tons of apps before. upgrading and that was one of the ones I had,

Justin Edelstein: So there you go. So now it's working. See, it wouldn't let me get to this screen before, but now I'm actually able to get in there. But with that said, in iOS 8, there are some sales first one mobile bugs. And Salesforce one is Salesforce is saying their Apple bugs.

Jason Atwood: Apple won't talk to you. So you don't have to stop talking. Nothing to me.

37:31 Justin Edelstein: I don't know if I would just be throwing that around being like, yeah, it's an Apple bug. I mean, look, it works in your web version. I'm testing this thing on the browser and it's working. the app. Isn't this just a browser?

Jason Atwood: Apparently not. Yeah, so there's that going on. All right, cool. So overall, that's our kind of quick review. I'm trying to think think of this as anything else. There's one other thing that I thought I was playing with. Well, I guess we both have, we both have pics so we'll talk about more. Actually, I will talk about one of the big features I'm excited about, so that's good. So next, week we're gonna come back and talk about Dreamforce. We're going to start up with our Dreamforce series of what to do, what to see, what to do, what to see, seeing and doing, playing and partying, all those things, drinking and passing out, yeah, all at Dreamforce 14. If you want to go and see us, come see us, and our new brand new product yet to be announced to be announced at Dreamforce.

Jason Atwood: Come to booth N1032. That's N as in Never. 103.2. Hilton no, it's in it's in what are you talking about? Well look down here where I'm we're not in the developer zone We're in the admin admin zone. Come on, man admin zone Same thing in the admin zone, which is in where

Justin Edelstein: I was of the opinion that it was in Moscone West

Jason Atwood: Moscone West, which we're gonna have to figure that out a little better.

Justin Edelstein: Because you had us in the developer zone in the Hilton just a moment ago.

Jason Atwood: We're all over the place. We're just everywhere. So there's gonna be a podcast studio. With an on-air sign. Might even be a padcast studio. But no, it's gonna be a podcast studio with an on-air sign and it's gonna have speakers that go outwards. So you can listen to us. We're going to be recording our podcast. You're going to be able to come and see us and listen. And then maybe there'll be some, I don't know what. So this will be punching pie. No, we punch and pie. Everybody comes with punching pie. so here's the dates Monday. I just have to make sure this is October 13th. I think it is. Yeah.

Justin Edelstein: I just wrote this down. You just pulled them out? Yeah, I just pulled them out. Just like whatever. Yeah, no, that's right. I'm correct. Monday, October 13th. Columbus Day, my favorite. There you go.

Jason Atwood: From 2 to 2 45, we'll be podcasting. Tuesday, the 14th from 12 to 12 45 p.m. and Wednesday, October 15th from 1 to 1 45. So basically 45 minutes. But if you just showed up, how about this? Monday, October 13th at two, Tuesday, October 14th at 12, and Wednesday, October 15th at one. We will, of course, put this all in a blog post eventually and talk about it. But if you want to write down now, we are going to bring some swag, so you want to be there for that. You will also be able to meet us, I guess, if you want,

40:40 Justin Edelstein: Or do whatever you want. You know what? Are we going to be, does this math work out? Will we be there for episode 200? No, still not. Very close. So close. So close. So close. Oh. It is really close. It won't be that close. Well, it's gonna be like within three episodes. Yeah. It's true. That's very close when you're talking about 200. That's true. But we don't care about 200. Well, the votes ran and it looked like 250 was the winner. Yeah, I know by like one, one vote.

Jason Atwood: All right. I want to see if I can do his vote. That was all right. So, we'll talk about all the dream for stuff next week. Let's get to our cloud focus app. Pick a week.

Justin Edelstein: I think they're both going to be IOAs, iOS eight apps. Yes. So I am excited about this health kit. and the health app. So on my device, I now have this dashboard that shows me all this health data, how many steps I've the taken today or over the last seven days or month or year, which I can't imagine it is even possible to chart at this point.

Jason Atwood: No, the M7 chip I think only keeps seven days worth.

Justin Edelstein: Yeah, so. So I don't know what a year is going to do here. All sorts of different health data. And what I'm really excited about is when apps start to connect to this thing. Oh, because I don't want to. I can manually add data points to this thing like. When I'm in bed, when I've been asleep, when I started sleeping, when I stopped sleeping to do sleep analysis. I can do things like body measurements, height, weight, body mass index, etc. I'm really excited for things to tie into this though. In particular, when my running app starts tying into this. There was another one that was really excited about like In terms of like tying into this heart rate monitor. No, there was something I was really excited about now. I can't remember Upset Anyway, I really like this tracking stuff Really because like I'm talking about it for like three years like you know what I need I needed like stuff I needed like a $800 phone.

Justin Edelstein: I guess so. I mean there's some weird stuff in here that you can track. A number of times fallen. Potassium, protein,

Jason Atwood: Resting calories. So you should know that that health app is actually backed by a... instead of API is called health kit. That's what I said. And so all of these apps like we I mean I use run keeper. I use Argus. I use a heart rate thing that you can measure your heart rate. all those apps within very soon hopefully will all be able to push their data into this. So then the app becomes kind of... Yeah, you have the sources tab. Right. And right now there's nothing. Because nothing pushes in because they haven't updated yet. Can't wait for some stuff.

43:54 Justin Edelstein: See it's right in my folder.

Jason Atwood: There you go. And then you throw on the Apple Watch and you throw on the device. It's on my purchase list. Whenever someone figures out which one is, it's a scale that talks to the phone. Yeah. and then goes into healthcare. Step on the thing, it talks to healthcare, puts in the weight. Tweets my weight. I- I don't want to tweak my weight, but I'm just saying, I like it to record it.

Justin Edelstein: I want to tweak my weight. I think that's motivational.

Jason Atwood: It should. I think it already does that. I mean, if you... Yeah, you gotta have a scale. There's a scale, but I wanted to go into this. So, very cool. And it was free, and it's from Apple, and it's with iOS 8. Which was also free which is by the way this whole new thing of all the iOS is I mean all OS is a bit Well, wait iOS has always been free. No. Yes. No iOS. Yeah First couple they made you know about 90 if you yes, I did they may know hey cuz no no You know how much you want to bet me you want to bet me two new phone million dollars? Yeah, they did because of accounting purposes. They had to pay you had to pay for it Yes. For iOS?

Jason Atwood: Yes.

Justin Edelstein: But I haven't paid for iOS in years. Don't tell me like now. It's great now. Like you haven't paid for iOS in five Now.

Jason Atwood: Really all? What OS on the Apple platform had paid for in the last three years? You're just said you just made a blanket all OS. like every OS ever is free. No, I'm saying all Apple OS's, in the Three years have been completely free before that both the iOS

Justin Edelstein: And the do not remember paying for iOS No way, yeah, no, yes, there's no way It is. We're both trying to find this now.

Jason Atwood: I'll find you which one it was. It was probably like four or three or something. It was an early one. No way. Yup.

Justin Edelstein: Anyway, can I make my pick? Yeah, you can make a pick. Whatever you want to do. Alright, so one of the great features.

Jason Atwood: This is like two worlds combining or colliding. One of the great, great features of iOS 8 that's actually a hidden feature is that you can now bring in your own keyboard. Custom keyboards. People have been complaining about this forever. In that when you are, I enjoyed it's had this forever. People have swipey keyboards and whatever. So the iOS actually has this built-in predictive thing now. but you can replace those keyboards with your own keyboards. So there's like six or seven custom keyboards and they work throughout the application. I was not very excited about this feature because I'm like, why do I want a custom keyboard? I want to just type. I don't want one that I have to talk cling on to like I just want to be able to type until I saw a company put out a company that I know smile software.

Jason Atwood: Put out a new version of an iOS app that I'd never bought because I was always like, why do I need that app? But then one of the feature lines was, and works on every app in iOS, and it's TextExpander. So now TextExpander for iOS works by becoming a custom keyboard. So anywhere you are with the keyboard in the app, You can do text expander. That's OK. Mind blown is when you say connect up and pull in all my snippets. Yeah. From inside that I have on my Mac. Pull them all into this to Dropbox. Yeah. So every snippet that I have, we talked about this a little

47:28 Justin Edelstein: While back, how Dropbox was going to be this like connector. for apps, right? and different platforms and you just store like the preferences in Dropbox. We talked about this maybe like six months ago and now you're seeing the fruits of that labor.

Jason Atwood: Yeah, it is. So pretty awesome. It is pretty awesome. And I will say flip back and forth to it. I'm not finding it. Thank you. Thank you. Brilliant yet. I find it. I love the app and it's $4.99.

Justin Edelstein: So I think it's gonna be there Here's what I don't like about it. What the sorry to okay Well, you have to flip it right you have to flip onto the keyboard and then the keyboards on Yeah, it's not a good keyboard if you're just doing other things. You're right. It's not a great keyboard for doing other things Well, it's good for text expanding, but it's What it doesn't do Yeah, what it doesn't do very well at all is yeah not good Right. So what? Because it's meant to expand snippets, which could be spelled any which way it doesn't have any of the like spell correcting or anything else in it so Oh, it has an auto-expand though. Yeah, but it doesn't have, like, spell correction. It does. No. I found it really difficult to actually type with it.

Jason Atwood: No, it has full auto. It has full whatever. What it doesn't have, what it does is a little weird is it jumps between upper and lower case, which I don't like. So it kind of moves the keys. And it doesn't have the, it has the auto-expand, but it doesn't have that new one at the top that's predictive. effective. Anyway, and it's actually actually actually a keyboard. Like if you flip to it, like I'm flipping off that keyboard to, oh no, I'm toking Siri. Oh no. If I flip over, like the keyboard, the keys are not the same. Let's see. You're not hitting the right thing. Anyway, so it's Texas Standard 3 for iOS. I feel like it's a- it's a good start. It needs to go pretty- I had my mind blown, but then I actually started not loving the keyboard.

Jason Atwood: I feel like they'll fix it because I feel like they didn't- they had the- they had iOS 8 but didn't have the phones. But look, you see what I'm saying?

Justin Edelstein: Like, if I start typing and I want to type thanks and I miss it by... Like it doesn't know what to really do.

Jason Atwood: Where is it if you flip the other one it will? Yeah.

Justin Edelstein: It's kind of just a different... It's not the same experience typing on it until it gets to that point. Because it's not doing the pretty good test. You're not trying to spell things correctly, you're just trying to put words in there that you would never actually use. Otherwise you expand things. That happened to me the other day, I was like, oh I gotta change that snippet. Alright, well so maybe it's not the best pick ever. Well no, it's a good pick, and it's a great step in the right direction.

50:49 Jason Atwood: Maybe they can figure it out. It's not perfect yet. All right. So that's Texas Banders 3 for iOS, $4.99, Smile Software. It's in the apps. It's... And there's all sorts of other little things. Custom keyboards I know people are excited about. All right. Let's wrap this puppy up. Wrapper up by saying, follow Justin at JustALC and follow me at Jason Atwood. Follow ArcaSync. Facebook.com slash ArcaSync. Success community group we have some polls in there We have all the details of where we'll be all in the success community group go in there If you're going to dream for us You got to go into that group and if you want to meet up with us get in there LinkedIn Google Plus Remember to go to subscribe and review us in iTunes and or stitcher or both.

Jason Atwood: We appreciate if you do both. Yep And that's it. So Justin and Jason saying enjoy those Cloudy. Peace.

Justin Edelstein: You